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陈佩斯称上春晚传言是压力:不能回头吃别人的饭--亲稳网络舆情监测室
2012-08-04
8月3日,陈佩斯的大道喜剧院将正式鸣锣开演,不请明星,不靠炒作,“二子开店”要靠口碑和品质。昨天,陈佩斯在接受采访时明确表示:“剧院开幕后,邀请的所有圈内朋友都是以普通观众身份来看演出,绝不靠明星造势。”不仅不靠朋友,就连陈佩斯本人也不愿意在公众面前过多地抛头露面,陈佩斯说:“我不希望我一个人混出来,靠我个人的名气带着大伙,剧院要发展,靠的还是作品和表演,有些饭我已经吃过了,就不能再回过头去吃别人的饭。”
August 3,,The theatre on airbus will be officially starts the gongs,Don't please star,Hype without,“The second son set up shop”Want to rely on reputation and quality。yesterday,In an interview on make it clear:“Theater after the opening,All circles friends invited are based on the general audience, identity to see the performance,Never depend on star power。”Without friends not only,Even Chen pei si I don't want to in public too much publicity,Chen pei si said:“I don't hope I mix it out,On my personal fame with everybody,Theatre to development,By or works and performances,Some rice I've eaten,It cannot go back and eat meal of others。”
□关于培训班 -about training course
学员已打漂亮攻坚战 Students have been hit pretty tough sell
大道喜剧院开幕后的首个作品是陈佩斯的经典舞台作品《阳台》。但是作为打头炮的作品,陈佩斯本人并没有披挂上阵,而是将舞台交给了一群年轻人。这些演员中有刚刚走出喜剧培训班得到了陈佩斯“真传”的学员,对于这些学员的表现,陈佩斯表示“没想到”。
Big after the opening of the villagers theatre first work is the classical works on stage《balcony》。But as DaTouBao work,I am not fit to go on,But will the stage to a group of young people。These actors in training just came out of the comedy get Chen pei si“aims”students,For these students' performance,Chen pei si said“Didn't expect”。
据陈佩斯介绍,学员班里的大部分人都是没有表演基础的,这与他当初的设想差距很大。陈佩斯说:“本来我们想招一些有表演基础的人,但是没有人报名。他们可能是不相信我,没办法,我们最后只能将条件放宽。”尽管与当初的想象有差距,但是陈佩斯仍然坚持要自己培养喜剧演员。谈到原因,他说:“中国的喜剧演员一直很缺乏,尽管我们的艺术院校也在培养学生,但是他们对于喜剧演员的培养,既没有师资、没有教材,教育和市场还严重脱节,造成这么多年喜剧演员都缺,我觉得现在年龄大了,需要培养新人。文化需要有人来传承,有人来继承。”
According to Chen pei si introduced,Most of the students in the class is not performance of the foundation,This and he had the idea of a gap。Chen pei si said:“We'd had some have called the performance basic,But no one application。They may be not believe me,Can't,We finally can only will conditions relaxed。”Although and expected have difference,But Chen pei si still insisted on their training comedy actor。Talking about reason,He said:“China has been a lack of comedian,Although our art universities and colleges in training students',But they for the cultivation of the comedian,Neither teachers、No textbook,Education and the market is still serious apart,Comedian caused so many years are short,I think now age,Need to cultivate new。Cultural need someone to inheritance,Someone to inherit。”
对于培养喜剧演员的自信,陈佩斯表示,源于近十几年来他对喜剧的探索,“我的理论来源于我在舞台上的经验,我同时用这些经验来思考喜剧的理论,再用我获得的理论去指导我的实践,我发现这条路是可行的。”陈佩斯自信地表示,在这些学员当中,有80%的学员将来可以从事喜剧表演,“这些演员已经上台演出过,观众的掌声、反馈我开始的时候也没有想到,这就像是一群没有上过战场的战士,经过一定的培训,他们打了一场漂亮的小攻坚战,那就说明这个理论是正确的。”陈佩斯表示,目前这些学员表演还不成熟,但是经过2到3年的培养,他们中一定会出人才。
To cultivate the comedian's confidence,Chen pei si said,From the past dozens of years of comedy he explored,“My theory comes from me on the stage of experience,I also use this experience to think the theory of comedy,I have to use the theory to guide my practice,I found this road is feasible。”Chen pei si confidently said,In these students of,80% of the students in the future can be engaged in comedy show,“These actors on stage performance has been,The applause of the audience、Feedback I began to time also does not have the thought,This is like a group of didn't go to the battlefield warriors,After a certain training,They played a pretty little tough sell,That means that the theory is correct。”Chen pei si said,At present, these students show is not mature,But after two to three years of training,They must have a talent。
小剧场口碑一点点来 A small theater reputation
已经从事舞台表演多年的陈佩斯对于目前剧院的生存状态了如指掌。说起近几年剧院的经营情况,陈佩斯表示:“都在赔。”然而他却在这时义无反顾地开起了自己的剧院,对于这个选择,陈佩斯说:“现在这个时候正是我们的文化发展最艰难的时候,但是也正是这样的时候才是最应该培养人才的时候。”陈佩斯举例说:“当时我们党最艰难的时候,在延安办了那么多的大学,培养了那么多的人才,这些人才最后都成了国家的栋梁之才。所以说越是艰难的时候,才越是培养人才的时候。”
Has been engaged in for many years on the stage show on the present state of existence of the theatre at his fingertips。In recent years the management situation of the theatre,Chen pei si said:“Are compensate。”But he was then boldly opened his own theatre,For the choice,Chen pei si said:“At this time it is our culture development is the most difficult,But it is also such time is the most should cultivate talents。”Chen pei si, for example:“At that time the most difficult of our party,The yenan to do so many university,Train so many talents,These personnel end all became a pillar of the country。So the more difficult time said,Only when the more training talents。”
陈佩斯表示,以目前小剧场的情况,只要让这些年轻演员演戏,演一场肯定会赔一场。陈佩斯早有心理准备:“好在是小剧场,就200到300张票,公司的其他收入补贴到这里边,另外小剧场靠的是口碑,一点点来吧。”对于将来有一天,这些演员会带给自己的回报,陈佩斯表示:“只要是人才就会有人来挖,我不能约束任何一个人才。”但是陈佩斯也坦言,自己这么做并不是理想主义,“我也有私心,我的私心就是在这些人身上证明我对喜剧的理解是正确的,被社会证实我对喜剧的理解是可行的”。
Chen pei si said,At the current situation of the theater,Just let these young actors,Play a sure will pay a。Early on a psychological preparation:“Fortunately, theater,Just 200 to 300 tickets,The company's other income subsidies to here edge,Another small theater by word of mouth,A little come。”For one day,These actors to his return,Chen pei si said:“As long as it is talent will be someone to dig,I can't constraint any a talented person。”But Chen pei si also said,So do not idealism,“I also have the selfishness,My interest is in these man of comedy that I understand it right,Be social prove I of comedy understanding is feasible”。
□关于春晚 -about its
上春晚传言是大压力 On that day television gala is great pressure
尽管陈佩斯曾在众多场合公开表示过自己不会上春晚,但是几乎每年他还是要受到传言的困扰。说到其中的原因,陈佩斯自己也感到不解,“的确,我曝光不多,但是大家还都很关心我。我也觉得我是个特例,我自己也不明白为什么,可能对于演员大家心中都有一杆秤吧。我现在一上网就能看到什么我婉拒春晚的消息。”说到此,陈佩斯感到很无奈,“就是前几天,有人让我参加一个春晚的研讨会,我这剧院刚开幕,哪有时间啊。”陈佩斯说,每年关于他上春晚的消息对于他而言都是巨大的压力。
Although Chen pei si had on numerous occasions said publicly that yourself not meeting its,But he still has to almost every year by rumors problems。Said the reason,Chen pei si oneself also felt puzzled,“indeed,I'm not much exposure,But we are all care about me。I also feel that I am a special case,I don't know why,May you for actors of your heart there is a steelyard it。I now to the Internet can see what I declined the news of the day television gala。”Said to the,Chen pei si feel very helpless,“Is a few days ago,Someone asked me to a day television gala seminar,I opened the theatre,Which have time!。”Chen pei si said,Every year on the news of the day television gala about him for he is the great pressure。
对于自己坚持不上春晚的原因,陈佩斯说:“很多东西都是浮在表面上的,如果拿不出好作品给别人是没有意义的。一个好作品出来是需要时间和空间的。这些年也老有人劝我去上春晚,但是你看看我这些事情,这头能扔吗,那头能舍吗?剧院马上要演出,根本忙不开。”
For not to the cause of the day television gala,Chen pei si said:“Many things are floating on the surface,If take not to produce good works to others is of no significance。A good works out to the time and space。These years old someone also urged me to go to day television gala,But you see me these things,This head can throw it,The head can give you?The theatre will soon performance,Don busy don't open。”
演小品是别人的事情 Play sketch is someone else's job
对于喜剧作品,春晚能提供最便捷的舞台,但是陈佩斯不愿意选择这条路,“我不愿意把我的舞台作品拿到春晚舞台上,是因为我的作品没有适合切碎了卖的。”他说,“我们的喜剧作品都是一环扣一环的,如果单独演几个片段,一点包袱都没有,观众也没什么反应,都是有了前因才有后果,我们的作品不是羊肉串、不是糖葫芦,所以没有适合的。”
For comedies,Its can provide the most convenient stage,But Chen pei si not willing to choose this way,“I don't want to get my stage works its stage,Because I work for no cut up sell。”He said,“Our work is a comedy buckle a ring ring,If in a few pieces alone,A little baggage to all have no,The audience also no reaction,Are the first to have consequences for,Our works are not mutton string、Not sugar-coated berry,So there is no suitable。”
虽然这样一个大的舞台喜剧比起一个喜剧小品简单得多,但是陈佩斯仍然乐此不疲,“每个人都有适合自己做的事情,我觉得我已经成长了,我就不想再回过头去干那个事情,这应该是别人干的事,我既然已经吃上这碗饭了,我就不能再回过头去吃别人的饭。”
Although such a big stage than a comedy sketch comedy much more simple,But still on itself,“Everyone for doing,I think I have growing,I don't want to go back and do the things,This should be others do,Since I have to eat on the bowl of rice,I can't go back and eat meal of others。”
□关于新动向 -new trends about
与老茂暂无合适作品 And old no suitable le works
由于在春晚舞台上很难见到陈佩斯和朱时茂的黄金组合,很多观众更希望在舞台上能见到二人再度合作。对此,陈佩斯的回答有些让人失望:“目前没有合适的剧本。”
Due to its hard to see in the stage on the combination ZhuShiMao and gold,Many viewers more hope on the stage to see two people have again cooperation。this,Chen pei si answer some disappointing:“There is no right script。”
陈佩斯说:“当时《托儿》是因为剧本合适,后来《阳台》演出我找过老茂,他觉得台词太多完成不下来,他那身体上舞台扛不住。”说到此,陈佩斯对自己的身体充满自信,说起保养秘诀,他说:“在舞台上摸爬滚打能排毒,我上了舞台演戏,出一身汗,我觉得人就轻松了。”但是最近一段时间,陈佩斯一心一意当起了老师,给学生授业、解惑,这让他觉得有些不习惯,他说:“最近光说不练,感觉不舒服。”
Chen pei si said:“At that time《childcare》Because the script appropriate,later《balcony》I find old performance le,He felt his lines can't complete down too much,He couldn't carry on the body stage。”Said to the,Chen pei si with their body full of confidence,Speaking of maintenance secret,He said:“On the stage marketer can discharge poison,I'm on stage acting,Out of a sweat,I think people relax。”But the most recent period,Chen pei si heart and soul worked as a teacher,Impart knowledge to students、To reassure,It makes him feel some not habit,He said:“Recently all talk,Feel uncomfortable。”
对于下一步自己的工作重心,陈佩斯表示,大道喜剧院以一种开放的态度面向社会,不只演自己的喜剧作品,还要帮助一些年轻人完成他们的喜剧作品。一些年轻人有想法但是还不太成熟的作品可以拿到大道喜剧院,和他一同进行探讨。陈佩斯介绍,与其他剧院不同,大道喜剧院不设身高限制,即使是很小的观众,只要对演出感兴趣也可以进场观看。陈佩斯表示,之所以有这样的想法,是因为以前常常有观众带着孩子来看他的演出,但是被挡在了剧场之外,让他感到很遗憾。
For the next step of his focus,Chen pei si said,Big daoxi theater with an open attitude for the society,Not only play his comedies,Want to help some young people to complete their comedies。Some young people have idea but also not too mature works can get hold of the big daoxi theatre,And he discussed together。Introduced on,Different with other theatre,Big daoxi theatre do not set the height restriction,Even a small audience,As long as the performances interested can also watch comes into play。Chen pei si said,Is this idea,Because used to have the audience brought the children to see his performance,But be kept out of the theater away,Let him feel very sorry about that。
□记者手记 -journal reporters
把人逗笑是件难事 To laugh is difficult
与陈佩斯聊天,很难将他和舞台上的那个一举手、一投足都充满了喜剧细胞的人联系在一起,他的一言一行都让人觉得是个严谨的人。陈佩斯说:“喜剧没有天分可言,喜剧是由技术组成的。之所以大家认为喜剧需要天分,是因为它难,把别人逗笑是一件很困难的事。”陈佩斯说:“我们常常为一些喜剧的技术问题探讨、争论很长时间,这些是外人看不到的。”而之所以愿意与喜剧终生为伴,陈佩斯说:“这一点受父亲影响很大,父亲从来不排斥喜剧,他愿意演喜剧把快乐带给别人,这些和名利无关。”
And chat on,It is difficult to will he and stage that a hand up、A cast sufficient is full of comedy cells together,He say and do let a person feel is a precisian。Chen pei si said:“Comedy have no talent at all,Comedy is composed by technology。Are you think comedy needs talent,Because it is difficult,Make each other laugh is a very difficult thing to do。”Chen pei si said:“We often for some comedy of the technical problems are discussed、Debate over a long time,These are stranger cannot see。”And are willing to and the comedy lifelong companion,Chen pei si said:“This point by father's influence,Father never rejected comedy,He'd like to play comedy bring joy to others,These and fame and fortune have nothing to do。”
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