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450余中国人报名“火星之旅”选拔 将有去无回--亲稳舆论引导监测室
2013-02-01
450多名中国人报名荷兰“火星单程之旅” 记者采访多名中国报名者 More than 450 Chinese people sign up the Netherlands"Mars one-way trip"Reporter interviewed more than Chinese applicants
“日前,荷兰一家名为“火星一号”的公司宣布启动计划在2023年把4名宇航员送上火星的“单程之旅”。在目前收到的37000多个报名意向中,中国人达到了450多名。这些中国报名者只是说说而已还是认真地对待这一选择?是什么力量驱动他们参与这项不一般的冒险?”
"a,A Dutch name"Mars is a number"Company announced plans to start in 2023, four astronauts to Mars"One way trip".In the present received more than 37000 registration of intention,Chinese reached more than 450.The Chinese applicants just talk or seriously this choice?What is the strength drive them to participate in the unusual adventure?"
中国人参与愿望强烈但知之甚少 The Chinese participation desire but know very little
本报记者采访到的4个报名者来自不同年龄段,从18岁到40岁,他们都清楚认识到这是一次单程之旅,依然表示愿意前往。不仅如此,这些报名者都表达了希望被选中的强烈愿望。来自昆明的王文明给记者发来自我介绍表达决心,还希望记者能帮他做申请视频。
Our reporter interviews with four applicants from different age groups,From eighteen to forty years old,They are well aware this is a one-way journey,Still said they would like to go to.Not only that,These applicants expressed hope that the chosen strong desire.From kunming to reporters WangWenMing from self introduction express determination,Also hope that journalists can help him do apply for video.
担心英语水平低成申请障碍 Worry about the low level of English to apply for obstacles
三位报名者担心英语是短板,会成为申请之路的障碍。四川都江堰的马强表示,他一般使用英语翻译软件与对方沟通,文字难免出现偏差。
Three applicants to fear that the English language is short board,Will be apply for road barriers.Sichuan dujiang weir's MaJiang said,He generally use English translation software to communicate with each other,Text appears unavoidably deviation.
《纽约时报》等外媒预约采访 [The New York times]Substandard media interview appointment
记者在采访的过程中发现,4人对这一项目的流程、使用的技术以及资金筹措的方式等具体情况了解得并不多。当问及项目的细节时,都表示还没有进行深入的了解。报名之后,他们的生活已经在发生改变。四川的马强已经接到了《纽约时报》的采访预约,匈牙利的一家媒体则联系了厦门大学的小陈。
Reporter in the interview process found,Four people on this project process/The use of technology and financing way specific circumstances to understand very much.When asked about the details of the project,All said it had no deep understanding.After registration,Their lives have been changed.Sichuan MaJiang has been received[The New York times]Interview appointment,Hungary is a media contact the xiamen university Chen.
“经历了“5·12”地震之后,马强看淡了生死,认为应该在有生之年“做些事情”。即使不成功,也希望做那个“抛砖引玉”的人。”
"experienced"5 · 12"After the earthquake,MaJiang see the light of life and death,Think it should be in the lifetime"Do something".Even if not successful,Also hope to do that"something"people."
马强在四川都江堰经营一家“农家乐”,今天恰巧是他与未婚妻办喜事的日子,但是,如果他能够被选中参与该公司的登陆火星的计划,8年后的他将离开妻儿,在火星上度过余生。
MaJiang dujiangyan in sichuan run a"farm",Today happens to be his fiancee and manage a wedding day,but,If he can be selected to participate in the company's plan to land on Mars,Eight years later he will leave the wife and children,Spend the rest of my life on Mars.
向往自由生活 “农家乐”里太落寞 Yearning free life "farm"So lonely
1月30日上午,记者走进马强经营的“农家乐”,这是马强目前唯一的营生。马强说他喜欢自由和享受生活,去年7月份结束在老挝的生意回到都江堰,开办了这个“农家乐”。
On the morning of January 30,The reporter walks into MaJiang management"farm",This is the only MaJiang of livelihood.MaJiang said he likes the freedom and enjoy life,In July last year end in Laos business back to dujiangyan,Launched the"farm".
“农家乐”里有些冷清,“旅游城市,冬天没有什么生意,夏天才热闹”。他一一介绍自己设计的“主题餐厅”。第一间便是“军旅”主题,是他专门为自己军旅生涯的战友们设计的聚会场所。门梁上红底黄字写着当年的番号,墙壁上挂满了代表军旅生涯的物件:仿真步枪、集体照片、军功章以及军衣和水壶。中间则是一张供二十人用餐的餐桌。马强说自己的这家“农家乐”有一半是为了战友而开,他们是这里“三天两头”的常客。另外两间餐厅供客人用餐和聚会使用。
"farm"Some cold and cheerless,"Tourist city,Winter no business,Summer just busy".He introduced the design of your own"Theme restaurant".The first is between"army"theme,Is he specifically for his military career comrades-in-arms design meeting place.The door beams red and yellow word write the outfit,On the wall hang full military representatives of the object:The simulation rifle/Collective photo/A fact and JunYi and kettles.Intermediate is a for twenty people dining table.MaJiang said his own this"farm"Half to comrade in arms and open,They are here"Every two or three days"a.Two other restaurant for dinner and party guests to use.
说起自己的农家院生活,马强觉得太落寞,但只要有互联网,在哪里他都待得住,“不能让我与外界失去联系,我是在外面跑惯了的人”,荷兰公司的这一计划就是他上外国网站时看到的。马强称自己现在对生活“看得很开”,虽然“平淡的生活也挺好的”,但是他觉得自己的本性就是“不安定”。
Speaking of his NongGuYuan life,MaJiang feel so lonely,But as long as there is the Internet,Where he stayed to live,"Can't let me lose contact with the outside world,I am in the habit of running outside",The Dutch company this plan is on his foreign web sites to see.MaJiang said they now to life"See very open",although"Insipid life is quite good",But he feels that his nature is"Don't settle".
早年四处游历 生存能力很强 Early travel around survival ability is very strong
马强称,得益于自己早年经历的锻炼,他的动手能力和生存能力很强。1993年,他成为了中国第一批110巡警,走在大街上,“各种危险都遇到过”。四年后,他参与了中国对东南亚的援建项目,随后一直在东南亚地区参与电站的建设。2004年,为了学习英语,他自费去了马耳他,在岛上生活了半年,他形容那是一个“如画”的地方,适合生活,只是英文没有学好。
MaJiang says,Thanks to his early experience of exercise,He's beginning ability and survival ability is very strong.In 1993,,He became China's first batch of 110 patrol,Walking in the street,"All kinds of dangers are met".After four years,He participated in the China to southeast Asia reconstruction project,Then has been in southeast Asia to participate in the construction of the power station.In 2004,,In order to learn English,He at one's own expense to Malta,The living on the island for half a year,He describes that is a"picturesque"place,Suitable for living,Just English not well.
后来马强从一家国企辞职,独自去老挝做生意,在老挝生活的两年时间里,他已经能够与当地人沟通,推销中国汽车,还做到了公司的项目经理。
Then MaJiang from a state-owned enterprises to resign,Go alone Lao business,In Laos life of two years,He has been able to communicate with the local people,Promote China's automobile,Also do the company's project manager.
经历“5·12”看淡生死 只想“做些什么” experience"5 · 12"Just want to see light of life and death"Do what"
谈起自己的经历,马强总是说绕不开“5·12”汶川大地震。地震时,他与战友在室内聊天,感到楼宇震动后,他们迅速逃离,“幸亏是身手好”,马强激动地说,楼层不高,跳窗后落在地面根本站不稳,路面剧烈摇晃,再看身后,房倒屋塌。
Talk about their own experience,MaJiang always say is not open around"5 · 12"Wenchuan earthquake.When the earthquake,He and fellow in indoor chat,Feel building after vibration,They quickly escape from,"Thanks to is a good",MaJiang excitedly said,Floor is not high,After jumping fell on the ground don't stand firm,Pavement violent shaking,Behind to see,Room down house collapse.
他觉得自己幸运,但没来得及回味,便加入了救援组织和爱心组织。那一段时间,他经历过为了营救而砍断孩子腿的场面,亲眼目睹层层堆叠的尸体,“那个时候救人救到不知疲倦,直到疲劳驾驶在高速路上撞车”。
He felt lucky,But before he could finish,He joined the rescue organization and caring organizations.The period of time,He experienced in order to rescue and cut off the child leg scene,See the bodies of layer stack,"That time save save to the tireless,Until the fatigue driving at high speed road crash".
经历过这场灾难的人,对生死多少都会有新的认识。马强觉得
Through the disaster of the people,How much of life and death will have a new understanding.MaJiang think人生是一次并不长的旅行,总是要抓紧“做些什么”让它有点意义,而“火星之旅”正是一次“做些什么”的机会。 Life is a long journey is not,Always grasp"Do what"Make it a little meaning,and"The journey to Mars"It is a"Do what"opportunity.
新婚妻子很支持 战友笑他“疯癫” New wife very support brother laughing at him"insane"
马强这几天没有来照顾生意,原因是39岁的他要与小9岁的邓女士结婚了,喜事就定在今明两天。两个人相识5个月,相恋3个月,用他的话说,“我们是闪婚”,因为彼此脾气秉性都相投,相互独立。
MaJiang this several days not to take care of business,The reason is 39, he wants to be with little nine-year-old deng woman married,Set in the wedding in the next two days.Two people meet five months,Love three months,In his words,"We are lightning marriages",Because each other good temper that being all,independent.
当记者采访时,邓女士刚刚取回了婚纱和一套婚纱照。她表示对马先生的这一选择很支持。她说:“我们谁也不干涉谁。人是独立的。没有彼此,这么多年也还是过来了。”她自己也十分喜欢到处走走,两个人也是因为这个结缘的。前几天她刚刚独自一人驾车去西藏旅行。
When a reporter to interview,Miss deng just got marriage gauze and a set of wedding pictures.She said Mr Ma to the choice is support.She said:"We who also not to interfere in who.Man is independent.No one,So many years still come over."She is also very likes to get around,Two people also because of the statue.A few days ago she just alone drove to the trip to Tibet.
就在记者采访的时候,马强的两位战友走进了他的农家院。战友对马强报名要登火星的事情并不关心,还是相约吃吃喝喝,只是向记者介绍,他是一个“半疯状态”的人。
When the reporters,MaJiang two brother into his NongGuYuan.Comrade in arms to sign up to MaJiang's Mars things do not care about,Or merely meet,Just introduces to the reporter,He is a"BanFeng state"people.
在马强看来,能登上火星也不仅仅代表自己,里面有使命的色彩,“全世界其他国家有人能上去的话,中国人是不是也应该有人能上去?”
In MaJiang seems,Who can not only represent their Mars,There is the colour of the mission,"The other countries around the world people can go up words,Do Chinese people should also can anyone up?"
对话 dialogue
很清楚自己是“小白鼠” 希望孩子为我骄傲 He is very clear"mice" Hope the children proud of me
记者:对自己目前的生活状态满意吗?
reporter:With his present state of life satisfaction?
马强:经历了很多事,现在对生活看得比较开,年轻时想要的物质的东西现在很多都不想了,只是觉得人总是应该做些事情。如果这一次计划没能成,生活还是一样继续,我就是喜欢到处走,现在最想去美洲和南北极。
MaJiang:Through a lot of things,Now see to life is open,Young when want to material things now many don't,Just think people should always do something.If this time plan can't into,Life is still the same to continue,I like to walk around,Now want to go to America and north and south poles.
记者:在看到这一个项目的时候,一下就吸引了自己,还是慢慢接受这样一个计划?
reporter:In view of this project,Once attracted himself,Or slowly to accept such a plan?
马强:第一个想到的是“这可能吗”。然后开始觉得这样一个“有去无回”的旅程反倒是自己的机会。因为要移民入驻火星,对于理智一些的人,尤其是年轻人来说,都不太可能去参加,如果别人不愿意,自己的机会就来了。
MaJiang:The first thought that came to mind was"This may be a".Then began to feel such a"Not get it back"But the journey is my chance.For immigrants in Mars,For some reason people,Especially young people,Are not likely to go to,If others don't want to,My chance will come.
记者:想象过如果真的登陆了火星,后半生的生活是什么样子吗?
reporter:Imagine if really landed Mars,What life will be like in the life?
马强:我想在上面是要参与建设的,而不是闲着。我的动手能力很强,从小在水电站长大,当过兵,能使用各种轻重型武器,援建的时候也要会使用多种机械。
MaJiang:I think above is to participate in the construction,Rather than at a loose end.My beginning ability is very strong,Since the childhood grew up in hydropower station,As a soldier,Can use all kinds of light heavy weapons,The state also want to use a variety of machinery.
记者:了解登陆火星可能让志愿者置身于什么样的危险中吗?
reporter:Understand land on Mars may let volunteers involved in what kind of danger?
马强:我很清楚。我觉得就像小白鼠吧,上去当试验品了。说要命就要命了,因为这不是换个小区、换个国籍,而是换个星球,而且还得自己开发。
MaJiang:I know.I feel like mice it,Up when the test product.Yao said it was hell,Because this is not a village/A nationality,But a planet,But also have to develop their own.
记者:那是什么驱使自己报名参加呢?不害怕吗?
reporter:What is that drive myself to sign up for?Don't be afraid??
马强:我觉得“5·12”地震对我的影响是一个原因。看淡生死了,我觉得应该把力量放在有意义的事情上,想在有生之年做点事情。还有就是我这人“坐不住”,不是一个安分的人。另外,我认为这是一个好事情,我对自己现在信心不足,如果我最后没能得到机会,我也希望自己是抛砖引玉的人。
MaJiang:I think"5 · 12"The influence of earthquake to me is a reason.See the light of life and death,I think we should put the power in meaningful,Want to do something in life.There is I this person"sit",Not a loyal person.In addition,I think this is a good thing,I am now lack of confidence,If I finally could not get the chance to,I also want to be valuable person.
记者:亲人怎么办?
reporter:Relatives do?
马强:父母很通达,他们不跟我住在一起,我们都是互不影响,自己的事情都是自己决定。如果真的能去,也还有8年的时间,那个时候,家里事务打理好了,孩子也长大了。我觉得到时候我的孩子更多的是为自己的爸爸骄傲。
MaJiang:Parents very understanding,They do not live together with me,We are each other is not affected,His things is his own decision.If really can go to,There are eight years of time,At that time,Home affairs to deal with good,Children have grown up.I think I'll children more for his father proud.
记者:了解项目的选拔和发射流程吗?
reporter:Understand the project selection and emission process?
马强:我的英文不好,都是借助翻译软件与对方沟通的。技术什么的我不懂。
MaJiang:My English is not good,Are with translation software to communicate with each other.Technology of what I don't understand.
记者:了解它的研究力量和商业模式吗?觉得这一计划能实现吗?
reporter:Understand its research strength and business model?Think this plan can be realized?
马强:只知道是一个私人的机构。仔细想来,如果没有大的财团的支持,或者政府的背景,难度应该挺大的。只要能选上我就去,但是如果让我自掏腰包去参加,我肯定不干。
MaJiang:Only know that is a private institution.Want carefully to come,If there is no big consortium support,Or the government's background,Difficulty should be quite big.As long as can be selected I would go,But if you ask me to go to my own,I'm sure not.
记者:开始做相应的准备工作了吗?
reporter:Start to do some preparation?
马强:我有在部队时候的一套训练方法,恢复身体状态应该不成问题,但是毕竟年龄大了,不能跟年轻时候比。现在还有一个问题是英语,不过8年之后应该可以实现佩戴实时的翻译机了。
MaJiang:I have time in the army a set of training methods,Restore body state should be no problem,But after all age,I can't be with than young.Now there is a problem is English,But after eight years should be able to realize real-time translation machine wear.
真人秀选拔 Reality show selection志愿者上火星 Volunteers on Mars
“火星一号”计划在2023年将首批4名宇航员发射升空,这些志愿者将“只去不回”,在火星度过余生。初选条件没有对报名者提出什么硬性要求,只要求年满十八岁。
"Mars is a number"Plan in 2023 will be the first four astronauts to launch,These volunteers will"Just go back to",Spend the rest of my life on Mars.Primary conditions for applicants not put forward any rigid requirements,Only asking for eighteen years old.
这一计划的各个阶段,从宇航员的筛选到他们进行训练,从无人火星航天器的发射到正式登陆火星和日常居住,都将通过电视广播向全球播出。根据该公司的计划,宇航员的筛选将是一场大规模的电视真人秀。
The plan of each stage,Astronauts from the screening to their training,No one from Mars spacecraft launch to the formal land on Mars and daily living,Will be through the television broadcast broadcast all over the world.According to the company's plan,Astronaut selection will be a massive reality TV show.
根据此前本报记者对航天专家庞之浩的采访,“只去不回”的航天之旅给宇航员带来极大的风险,项目是否能够被人类伦理学接受还未可知。并且,他认为这一项目成功可能性较低。
According to our reporter had to space experts Mr Hao of the interview,"Just go back to"Space trip to astronauts bring great risk,If the project can be accepted human ethics is a mystery.and,He thought it a successful project possibility is low.
厦门大学学生小陈: Xiamen university student Chen:“想寻梦无奈父母命不可违” "Want to vision quest helpless parents life not violations"
厦门大学学生小陈是通过“火星一号”项目的网页了解到这一计划的。他今年刚好18岁。小陈说自己从小就喜欢阅读航空航天相关的知识,曾经最大的梦想是当飞行员,高中毕业时参加了相关考试,笔试的成绩不够,这一梦想搁浅了。他觉得参加这一项目是一个实现自己梦想的机会。
Xiamen university student Chen is through"Mars is a number"Project's website to know the plan.This year he was eighteen years old.Chen said he grew up like reading aerospace relevant knowledge,Once the biggest dream is to become a pilot,Graduation from high school to participate in the relevant test,The test result is not enough,This dream had run aground.He felt that to participate in this project is a chance to live their dreams.
报名以后他与父母商量,起初父母同意,但当得知“有去无回”时,父母再也不肯答应。小陈说不能违背父母的意愿,现在正与父母积极沟通。
After signing up with his parents to consult,At first the parents agree to,But when that"Not get it back"when,Parents can not answer.Chen said can't against the wishes of the parents,Is now with his parents positive communication.
记者问:如果真的选中了去参加全国电视选拔会去吗?小陈说只要到时父母同意了就会去。
The reporter asked:If really chosen to take part in the national TV selection will go?Chen said that as long as the parents agreed will go.
昆明地质工程师王文明: Kunming WangWenMing geological engineer: “我去火星探险没有后顾之忧” "I go to Mars exploration does not have trouble back at home"
王文明称“火星一号”计划从网上出来的第一天他就看到并追踪这一消息。他觉得这一项目是一次全新的探索,而他本人喜欢“探索的过程”。今年30岁的他,2005年毕业于昆明理工大学。毕业后从事地质勘察,目前在云南一家地质矿业有限公司工作,担任项目经理。
WangWenMing says"Mars is a number"Plan from online out of the first day he saw and tracking the news.He felt that the project is a new exploration,He and I like"Process of search".This year the 30 year-old,In 2005, graduated from kunming university of science and technology.After the graduation engaged in geological exploration,Currently in yunnan a geological mining co., LTD work,The position of project manager.
他向家人说明要报名参加这个计划,家人表示赞同。未婚的他有兄弟姊妹6人,父母可以由兄弟姊妹照顾,所有“没有后顾之忧”。
He told his family instructions to sign up for the plan,Family agreed.Unmarried he has 6 brothers and sisters,Parents can take care of the brothers and sisters,all"No worries".
王文明说英文很不好,年龄也有些偏大,对于这次选拔信心不大,但是会尽全力。目前的任务是要制作一个个人宣传视频并准备提交到报名网站。
WangWenMing speak English is very bad,Age also some partial big,For the selection of faith is not big,But will try our best to.The present task is to make a personal propaganda video and ready to be submitted to the registration website.
他知道在送宇航员之前会进行8次不载人的发射,只有在这8次都成功的前提下才会载人,所以,他认为这是可以接受的。但是对项目的具体细节他表示并没有深入了解。
He knew in send astronauts will before eight times not manned launch,It is only in the eight times under the premise of success will be manned,so,He thought it was acceptable.But for the details of the project, he said not in-depth understanding.
大学毕业生陈青云: University graduates ChenQingYun:“梦想经历波澜壮阔的人生” "Dream experiences magnificent life"
陈青云是一名去年刚刚毕业的大学生,学的是水利水电建筑工程专业。他通过国内的电视媒体了解到这一项目。
ChenQingYun is a was graduated last year of college students,Learn is water conservancy and hydropower construction engineering.He through the domestic TV media understanding to this project.
目前,他在一家国有控股公司做着白领,但平淡的生活不是他想要的,他更希望度过“波澜壮阔的一生”。他说地理大发现时代给他的心灵带来一种“无比的震撼”,曾经梦想当一名水手,经历那些大航海时代的先哲们航行在浩渺无际的大海中的情景。
At present,He works in a state-owned holding company doing the white-collar,But dull life he doesn't want to,He spent more hope"Surging forward with great momentum life".He said geographical discovery times to his mind with a"Very shocked",Once the dream to be a sailor,Experience the great maritime era of great thinkers sailing on the sea boundless into the scene.
陈青云觉得加入“火星一号”计划能够成就自己毕生探寻的梦想,认为这是自己的机会来了。他透露了自己对这一项目的充分信任,但是坦言自己并没有对此有更多的了解和认识。
ChenQingYun feel to join"Mars is a number"Plan to achievements in their life dream,Think that this is his chance to come.He revealed himself to this project fully trust,But said I didn't have a more understanding and the understanding.
火星地表图景
Picture of the surface of Mars
专家警告 火星生活将会“非常乏味”
Experts warned Mars life would be"Very boring"
尽管这些“火星移民”志愿者热情很高,但美国太空心理学家哈里森警告称,火星上的生活绝对没有人们想象中的那么浪漫,这些“火星移民”志愿者应该三思而后行。
Although these"Mars immigrants"Volunteers high enthusiasm,But the United States space psychologists harrison warned,Life on Mars absolutely no people imagination of so romantic,these"Mars immigrants"Volunteers should look before you leap.
哈里森说:“这将是一场长期的与世隔绝的幽闭之旅,在体验火箭发射升空和登陆火星的最初兴奋感后,首批‘火星移民’将很难避免沮丧情绪的产生。毕竟,单程火星之旅意味着他们将永远离开自己的家人、朋友和地球上一切熟悉的事物。首批‘火星移民’将会在火星上一个接一个地变老、生病和死亡。”
Harrison said:"This will be a long-term isolated claustrophobic trip,In the experience rocket launch and landing on Mars first after the excitement,The first‘Mars immigrants’Will find it difficult to avoid the generation of depression.After all,One way the journey to Mars means they will never leave his family/Friends and the earth all the familiar things.The first‘Mars immigrants’On Mars will be one by one to grow old/Illness and death."
火星旅行:新闻背景
Mars travel:News background
美国商业火箭制造商SpaceX首席执行官埃伦·穆斯克(Elon Musk)宣称,火星旅行在10年内就可实现,届时购买一张火星往返票仅需50万美元(约合315万元人民币)。
The United States commercial rocket manufacturers SpaceX CEO Ellen MuSiKe(Elon Musk)claims,Mars travel in 10 years can achieve,At the appointed time to buy a round trip ticket to Mars only $500000(About 3.15 million yuan RMB).
2010年,SpaceX成为史上第一家成功发射太空船并顺利收回的商业公司。穆斯克说,由于科技取得突破性进展和空间技术成本大幅下降,他有信心SpaceX不久后将走得更远,在10年内将游客送到距离地球2.25亿公里的火星上。
In 2010,,SpaceX became the first in the history of a successful launch spacecraft and smooth recovery business company.MuSiKe said,Due to the science and technology breakthrough and space technology costs plunged,He is confident of SpaceX will soon go further,In the ten years to visitors to the earth's distance from the 225 million kilometers of Mars.
穆斯克说:“登陆火星,往返船票只需50万美元。我认为,火箭运输系统完全可以重复使用,而且可以在火星补充燃料,因此不必携带返程燃料。”由于SpaceX将要在火星旅行中使用的技术还没有申请专利,他拒绝透露更多细节。但穆斯克表示:“我们将在今年年末公布更详细的全面火星战略,我相信它会成功。”
MuSiKe said:"Land on Mars,Return tickets only $500000.I think,The rockets transport system can reuse,But also on the supplementary fuel,So don't have to carry return fuel."Due to the SpaceX will travel on Mars use technology haven't applied for patent,He declined to give any more details.But MuSiKe said:"We will in the end of this year by the more detailed comprehensive strategy of Mars,I believe it will succeed."
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