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昆明拟向游客征收10元滇池保护费 引网友炮轰--亲稳舆论引导监测室
2012-08-06

  自己把水弄脏了,却向别人要钱来治理。乍听起来以为是笑话,可这事儿偏偏就发生了。近日,昆明拟出台法规要求“向酒店入住者,每人每天征收10元滇池生态资源补偿费”…[我来说两句] His dirty water,But to others want money to management。At first glance it sounds thought was a joke,But this thing happened happened。recently,Kunming is issued regulations“The to the hotel,On 10 yuan per person a day in dianchi lake ecological resource compensation”…[me 2]

  中新网昆明8月5日电(记者 史广林)自己把水弄脏了,却向别人要钱来治理。乍听起来以为是笑话,可这事儿偏偏就发生了。近日,昆明拟出台法规要求“向酒店入住者,每人每天征收10元滇池生态资源补偿费”。消息一出,舆论哗然。

On August 5, kunming local fars news agency reported(Reporter ShiGuangLin)His dirty water,But to others want money to management。At first glance it sounds thought was a joke,But this thing happened happened。recently,Kunming is issued regulations“The to the hotel,On 10 yuan per person a day in dianchi lake ecological resource compensation”。News a,Public outcry。

  7月27日,云南省人大常委会对《云南省滇池保护条例(草案)》等多项法规进行审议。该草案最为引人注意的是,昆明市人民政府拟设立滇池保护专项资金,资金来源中有一项可能会向赴滇游客征收。

July 27,,Yunnan province of National People's Congress standing committee《Regulations on the protection of dianchi lake in yunnan province(draft)》And so on many regulations review。The most attractive is the draft,The people's government of kunming dianchi lake protection to set up a special fund,Capital source in a may ask to yunnan tourists collection。

  据一名不愿透露姓名的参会者透露,会议当天,昆明市政府一领导恳望人大常委们“更加重视滇池污染治理,以立法的形式解决治理费用不足等诸多问题。”

According to a don't wish to be named, said participants,Meeting the day,Kunming government a leadership KenWang the efficiently“Pay more attention of the dianchi lake pollution treatment,The form of legislation to solve many problems, such as insufficient overhead expenses。”

  这名领导称,昆明市拟对滇池流域2920平方公里范围的五华、盘龙、官渡、西山、呈贡、晋宁6个县区的酒店、旅社入住者,按每人每天10元的标准,开征收取滇池生态资源补偿费。昆明市恳请云南省人大尽快颁布《云南省滇池保护条例》,支持昆明市开征滇池生态资源补偿费,恳请省发改委给予支持办理相关审批手续。

The officers say,Kunming dianchi lake watershed is to 2920 square km range of five China、panlong、guandu、xishan、ChengGong、6 counties including jinning hotel、Hotel check-in the,According to the standard of 10 yuan per person a day,Collecting the collection ecological resource compensation dianchi lake。Yunnan people's congress enacted the kunming will as soon as possible《Regulations on the protection of dianchi lake in yunnan province》,Support the kunming dianchi lake ecological resource compensation collecting,Will the provincial development and reform commission with the related to support the formalities for examination and approval。

  事实上,早在2009年11月,《云南省滇池保护条例(草案)》(公开征求意见稿)即由云南省法制办和昆明市滇池管理局联合上网公布。当时在征求意见稿上,发文单位非常用心地做了如下表述:“为了在地方立法工作中发扬民主,了解民意,集中民智,根据《中华人民共和国立法法》、《云南省人民代表大会及其常务委员会立法条例》的规定,现将《云南省滇池保护条例(草案)》(公开征求意见稿)上网公布,广泛听取社会各方面的意见。请提出意见的单位和个人,于2009年11月25日前以电子邮件、传真、信函等形式将意见反馈云南省人民政府法制办公室和昆明市滇池管理局。”

In fact,As early as in November 2009,《Regulations on the protection of dianchi lake in yunnan province(draft)》(Public drafts)The legislative kunming dianchi lake in yunnan province and the administration announced joint on the Internet。At that time in the drafts,Dispatch unit to be a very attentively the statement:“In order to work in the local legislation to promote democracy,Understand the public opinion,Focus on intelligence,According to《The legislative law of the People's Republic of China》、《Yunnan people's congress and its standing committee legislative regulations》Provisions of the,Now the《Regulations on the protection of dianchi lake in yunnan province(draft)》(Public drafts)Released on the Internet,Widely listen to opinions from all sectors of society。Please give my opinion unit and individual,In November of 2009, a 25 by E-mail、fax、Letter of feedback form of yunnan province people's government legal office of kunming dianchi lake and administration。”

  这份有着七大章69条规定的条例(草案)在网上挂到现在,也未引起舆论与大众的广泛关注。“治理滇池是大好事啊,有谁会不支持?”

This has seven big chapter the provisions of article 69 of the act(draft)Hung on the Internet now,Also did not cause public opinion and the public attention。“Management is good, dianchi lake,Who will not support?”

  但治理和保护滇池的费用要向“远方的客人”征收的说法从会上一经传出,此间的多家都市媒体坐不住了,纷纷“越俎代庖”,以“新闻”的形式代表“法制办和滇管局”向昆明市民乃至全国网民征求意见。

But control and protect the cost of dianchi lake to“Dear guests”The statement from the meeting on once broke,The city is home to more than the media here sit still,have“Do it for someone else”,to“news”Form represents“The board of the legislative and yunnan”And even the whole country to kunming citizens advice from Internet users。

  网上“民意代表”的意见有些一边倒。有网友调侃道,“昆明人你们真善良啊,但滇池污染真不是我们游客干的。”“以后会不会有昆明空气补偿费,凡在昆明行政区域内呼吸的都交钱?”网友“燕京盛世”说,“昆明此举不可取。如果条例被通过,全国效仿,今后各地可能都会向游客征收空气费、阳光费。”

online“Representatives of”Opinion some one-sided。Netizens poking fun way,“Kunming people you really good ah,But dianchi lake pollution is not tourists dry。”“Later will not have kunming air compensation,And in kunming administrative areas of breathing in money?”the“Yanjing saatchi”said,“Kunming it is advisable。If the regulations,Follow the,All the tourists in the future will air fee collection、Sunshine fee。”

  “谈判沟通专家潘黎”称,“典型的前人污染后人买单!为何我们不把收费创意用在污染治理上?为何我们要用行政收费治污?收费之后就能解决污染问题?缴费客人是否有权知道和监督费用流向和滇池流域治污情况。我们宁可捐款千元给滇池治污,也不愿被收费治污!”

“Negotiations PanLi communication experts”says,“The typical predecessors pollution pay later generations!Why do we not to charge in creative use on pollution?Why do we need to use administrative fees for performance?After charging can solve the problem of pollution?Capture expends the guests are entitled to know and monitor expenses flow, and welcomed the dianchi lake watershed。We would rather donated one thousand yuan RMB to frequent dianchi lake,Also don't want to be charged performance!”

  可能料到网民会质疑,云南省政府法制办主任祁希元在当天的会上就表示,生活在滇池流域的每一个人,既是滇池的污染者,又是滇池污染的受害者,更是滇池治理的责任者和受益者。通过立法开征此费,有利于增强全民保护滇池意识,引导企业严格遵守保护环境法律法规,以最小的环境成本获得最大的经济效益,建立稳定长效投入机制。

May expect Internet users will be questioned,The legislative QiXiYuan, director of the provincial government on the day of the meeting said,Life in the dianchi lake watershed to everyone,Is the dianchi lake polluters,And the victims of the dianchi lake pollution,The governance of dianchi lake is understood and the beneficiaries。Through collecting the legislation this fee,To strengthen the protection consciousness of dianchi lake,Guide enterprises to strictly abide by environment protection laws and regulations,With a minimum of environment cost for maximum economic benefits,To establish a stable long-term investment mechanism。

  对于云南省政府法制办的说法,云南大学教授金子强持不同意见。他认为,“收取滇池生态资源补偿费的治理思路,有新意但不切实际。”他说,首先如果滇池周围的宾馆污染了滇池,应该是宾馆搬迁,而不是向住客收费。其次,治理污染是政府的职能,如今却要把职能摊派给民众负担,这不合理。金子强称,“我对变着法向游客强征所谓古城维护费、生态资源补偿费的作法,非常不以为然!”

For the provincial government that concerned,Yunnan university professor JinZiJiang hold different opinions。He thinks,“Ecological resource compensation for the management of dianchi lake ideas,Have new idea but impractical。”He said,First of all if the dianchi lake dianchi lake pollution around the hotel,Should be hotel move,Residents not to charge。second,The pollution control is the function of the government,But now the function to apportion public burden,It's not reasonable。JinZiJiang says,“I BianZhaoFa forcing visitors to the so-called ancient city maintenance fee、Ecological resource compensation of practice,Very to disagree!”

  争论还在继续,已经有外地游客关心何时收费了。8月3日,昆明市滇池管理局官员郑涛回应本社记者称,该条例是由云南省政府法制办牵头,省、市10多个部门共同参与拟订的,只是草案,尚未实施。下步要经云南省人大审议通过后才会开展相关工作。

Debate continues,Tourists have been concerned about when to charge。August 3,,Kunming dianchi lake administration officials zheng reporters call our response,This is the law by the provincial government to lead the legislative,province、The city more than 10 departments jointly participate in the draft,Just draft,Not yet implemented。The next step is to review by yunnan province people's congress will develop through relevant work。

  有人算过一笔账,昆明市旅游局统计数据显示,昆明2011年接待海内外游客超4000万人次。按此计算,每名游客在昆明住上一天,就可以为治理和保护“滇池生态资源”贡献4亿元。(完)

Someone calculate on a bill,Kunming tourism administration figures show,Kunming 2011 tourists super 40 million passengers。According to the calculation,Each tourists in the kunming for a day,For management and protection“Ecological resources dianchi lake”Contribute 400 million yuan。(finish)

网友调查:谁应为滇池污染“买单”?

The survey:Who should be dianchi lake pollution“pay”?

1.您如何评价昆明向游客收取滇池“保护费”?

1. How do you evaluate kunming dianchi lake charge to the tourists“Protection money”?

  • 合理,有助于提升游客环保意识
  • reasonable,Help to improve tourist environmental protection consciousness
  • 不合理,治污不力不应由游客买单
  • Not reasonable,Poor performance should not pay by tourists

2.您认为谁应为滇池污染“买单”?

2. Who do you think should be in dianchi lake pollution“pay”?

  • 附近的居住者、生产者
  • Nearby residents、producers
  • 政府相关部门
  • The relevant government departments
  • 游客
  • tourists
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评论:滇池污染最应该给游客补偿

comments:The most should give visitors dianchi lake pollution compensation

  来源:《半岛都市报》 近日,"昆明拟对滇池游客征收每人每天10元生态保护费"的消息引发网民关注,不少网民认为让游客为滇池治理污染埋单"太离谱"。记者采访获悉,上述收费计划目前正在报请有关方面审核通过。(本报8月5日A28版报道)

source:《Peninsula metropolis daily》 recently,"Kunming dianchi lake tourist draw on each person every day on 10 yuan ecological protection money"The news triggered attention Internet users,Many Internet users think that let visitors for pollution control dianchi lake bill"Is going too far"。Reporters learned that,The above rate plan at present are submitted to the audit through。(This August 5 A28 version of the report)

  游客到滇池,是奔着"高原明珠"的美誉、是为了享受水天一色而来的。可现在,滇池水是劣五类,异味驱人,明珠失色,滇池名不符实。从经济角度来说,游客远道而来,花了大价钱却没有得到应有的享受,这就跟花高价买了劣质商品一样,应该得到经济补偿。哪有反过来补偿不良商家的道理?

Visitors to the lake,Is rush the"Plateau pearl"Reputation of、To enjoy ShuiTianYiSe。But now,Lake water is bad five categories,Peculiar smell flooding people,Pearl blank,Name dianchi lake。From the economic point of view,Here visitors,Spent a fortune but have not get due to enjoy,This is a bid to take the faulty goods,Should be economic compensation。Which have in turn compensation undesirable businessman of reason?

  相关方面之所以向游客伸手,如果不是头脑发热想钱想疯了的话,那可能是考虑到游客的到来,增加了滇池的污染。这恐怕也是一个事实。现在许多景区的污染,不仅有工业污染,还有生活污染;不仅有本地人污染,还有外地人污染。游客的不文明行为需要纠正,游客们也应该树立文明出游的意识。但对于这种可能,相关方面应该有提前考量,提前安排,而不是直接伸手要钱。

Related to the tourists are stretched out his hand,If not the mind fever want to money to crazy words,That may be considering the arrival of tourists,Increase the pollution of dianchi lake。I'm afraid that this is a fact。Now many scenic spot of pollution,Not only have industrial pollution,Life is pollution;Not only have the locals pollution,And the outsiders pollution。The tourists don't behave need to correct,Visitors also should set up the consciousness of travel civilization。But for this possibility,Related aspects should be considered in advance,In advance,Rather than directly out his hand to money。

  如果旅游带来的破坏,远远超过了生态承受力,旅游收入也不足以支撑治污费用,那为什么不压缩接待,甚至暂时关闭景区?景区不能无视生态约束,"我家大门常打开",即使污染没法承受了,也在弯腰吆喝"请不用客气"。

If travel damage,Far more than the ecological endurance,Tourism income was enough to support pollution treatment costs,Why not compressed reception,Even temporarily shut down scenic spot?Scenic spot can't ignore the ecological constraint,"Our door is always open",Even if pollution can't bear,Also shouted in bending over"Please don't mention it"。

  滇池受到污染,确实需要治理;治理缺少资金,确实需要筹集,相关方面至少有四个选择。第一个是"你污染我治理",掏出更多的财政资金用于治污;第二个是"谁污染谁掏钱",向那些对生态环境造成直接影响的组织和个人收取治污费用;第三个是"谁受益谁掏钱",向那些旅游受益者收取费用,比如提取更多的旅游收入用于治污;如果实在没人出钱,那就第四个选择"不受益不污染",关门大吉,把污染关在门外。怎么能把手伸向游客呢?

Dianchi lake polluted,Really need management;Over the lack of money,Does need to raise,Related aspects at least four options。The first is"You pollution I management",Take out more financial funds for performance;The second is"Who pollution who draw out money",To those on the ecological environment of a direct effect on the organization and individual performance fees charged;The third is"Who benefit who draw out money",To those who travel beneficiaries collect fees,Such as extraction for more travel income used for performance;If there is no people pay,That is the fourth choice"Don't benefit not pollution",closed,The pollution stay outside。How can hands to tourists?

  滇池污染,如果谈补偿的话,最应该补偿的是游客。

Dianchi lake pollution,If talk about compensation words,Most should compensate is tourists。

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