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瑞航斗殴乘客身份成谜 相关部门无从介入(图)--亲民维稳网络舆情监测室
2012-09-13

瑞航斗殴乘客身份成谜 相关部门无从介入(图) 瑞航空中斗殴事件视频截图 RuiHang air brawl video screen

     向前,还是向后?一个座椅靠背,让两个中国人在异国航空公司飞机上大打出手。两名当事人的身份,可能影响后续法律后果承担,但两人却“隐身”了。

   forward,Or backward?A seat back,Let two Chinese in the foreign airlines plane dish it out.The identity of the two parties,May affect the subsequent legal consequences bear,But the two people are"stealth"the.

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     "空中斗殴”乘客身份要不要查清 Air fight"Passenger identity want to find out

    “机舱内一片嘈杂,一位空姐用毛巾帮一位中国男子捂着头,显然后者受了伤。现场,外国机务长与乘务员在紧张地进行着协调……”这是近日发生在一架瑞士飞北京航班上的一段视频,事后有乘客描述了这一因座椅靠背引发的冲突:“一切都发生得太快,他们碰到一起就开始撕扯……”其中一人还将上前劝阻的乘务长打了。飞机被迫返航,两名当事乘客被捕,其中一位受到刑事处罚。

    "The cabin a hum,A stewardess towels help a Chinese man over his head,Obviously the latter was injured.field,Foreign maintenance long and flight attendants in nervously on coordination……"This is recently took place in a plane flew to Beijing flight Switzerland a video,After a passenger describes this for seat back caused by the conflict:"All happened so fast,They met together began to tear……"One will also come forward to dissuade the ChengWuChang played.The plane was forced to return,Two passengers were arrested party,One of them by criminal punishment.

    消息一出,舆论哗然,“丢人丢到天上去了”、“真给中国人丢脸”,更有人将近期“5名女乘客高空打群架”、“广州越秀区武装部长殴打空姐”等一系列空中斗殴事件链接到网上。一时间,舆情热点聚焦在当事人的身份以及对这类趋向频发的事件究竟应该如何处罚等问题上。

    News a,Public outcry,"Throw a person into the heaven"/"True to the Chinese lose face",More people will be in the near future"Five female passengers upper punch-up"/"Yuexiu district of guangzhou armed minister beating a flight attendant"And a series of air brawl links to online.time,Public opinion hot focus on the identity of the party and to this kind of tendency of frequent events actually should how to punishment and so on.

    “如果当事人是公职人员,有关部门是否应该从重处罚?”“即便是普通人,如果其行为威胁到飞行安全,是否应当以刑事罪论处?”“对于暴力威胁飞行安全的行为,我国相关法律如何界定?”“高空斗殴,难道就这样一罚了之?”

    "If the parties are public servants,The relevant departments shall be given heavier punishment whether it should be?""Even ordinary people,If its behavior threat to aviation safety,Whether they should to punish crime?""For the threat of violence flight safety behavior,Our country's relative legal how to define?""Upper fight,Don't so YiFaLeZhi?"

    针对上述问题,本报记者采访了有关专家。     In view of the above questions,Our reporter interviewed experts.

    A。隐私权是否应为知情权“让路”?     A.Whether the privacy should be right to know"way"?

   只要踏出国门,每个人都代表着自己的国家。正因如此,发生在瑞航飞机上的斗殴事件,让广大网友尤为难以接受,于是各种怀疑、搜索当事人身份的帖子纷至沓来。

As long as the step abroad,Everyone represents his country.Because of this,RuiHang occurred in the brawl,Let the net friend is particularly difficult to accept,So all kinds of doubt/The search party identity in the post.

   目前,瑞士方面除了透露两名斗殴的中国男子年龄分别为29岁和57岁之外,其他个人信息均未披露。中国驻苏黎世总领馆领事称,当事人也不愿意透露个人信息。据新华社报道,苏黎世警方表示,当地时间3日警方调查已结束,已移交给苏黎世检察院,瑞士苏黎世州检察官达妮埃拉冯卡埃内尔4日说,两名中国乘客没有被检察院起诉,已于3日下午获释,其中一名57岁的中国乘客因危害公共交通被处以按日支付的罚金,天数为90天,但她拒绝透露具体金额。她说,这项罪名在瑞士是刑事罪。

At present,Swiss aspects in addition to reveal two fights Chinese man age 29 years old respectively and 57 years old outside,Other personal information were not disclosed.The Chinese embassy in Zurich system consular says,The parties are not willing to reveal personal information.According to xinhua news agency,Zurich, police said,The local time 3, police investigation is over,Already handed over to Zurich procuratorate,Zurich, Switzerland, state attorney DaNiAiLa von card angstrom Nell 4 said,Two Chinese passengers were not procuratorate prosecution,Already in the 3rd release in the afternoon,One of them 57 Chinese passengers for harm public transportation be fined by the day to pay fines,Number of days for 90 days,But she refused to disclose the specific amount.She said,The charges in Switzerland is a criminal offence.

  

斗殴者的身份该成为谜吗? Fight the identity of the person the become a mystery?

   解放军西安政治学院理论军事法学教研室副教授傅达林认为,“在行政法上,违法公民的姓名、性别、住址、身份证号码等,都是个人信息的一部分。既然立法上没有规定必须公开相关信息,这些应当得到法律的保护,执法机关一般不能随意公布于众。因为对于违法者而言,个人信息的公布等于将其违法行为曝光于全社会之下,这势必对公民的名誉权带来损害,甚至导致被处罚人"觉得压力很大,在领导和同事面前有点抬不起头来"。这些是违法行为者所不应当承担的法律后果。

The people's liberation army xian political college military theory teaching and research section of law, an associate professor FuDaLin think,"In the administrative law,The illegal civil name/gender/address/Id card number, etc,Man is a part of the information.Since there is no legislation rules must be public information,These should be the protection of the law,Law enforcement agencies generally don't feel free to public.Because for offenders concerned,Personal information is equal to the publication of the illegal behavior under exposure in the entire society,This certainly will cause damage to citizen's reputation,Even lead to be punished people"Feel the pressure very big,In front of my leaders and colleagues a little lift head".These are the misfeasor don't shall bear the legal consequences.

   “但是,如果一个人的违法行为涉嫌刑事犯罪并严重侵害到公众利益,同时又成为公共事件的时候,无论是出于对公众监督权的尊重,还是维护违法者本人不受误解,都有必要公布信息以释疑。当然,像这样的案件,航空公司可能是没有权力私自公布信息的,是否公开最终需要执法部门决定。”

"but,If a person's illegal behavior criminal suspects and serious violation to the public interest,At the same time become the public events,Whether for public supervision respect,Or maintenance offender himself from misunderstandings,All necessary information to disabuse released.Of course,Such cases,Airlines may be no power released information without permission,Whether the public will eventually need to law enforcement decision."

   针对瑞航斗殴事件,有评论认为,当一个人的行为已严重侵害到公众利益的时候,隐私权必须为公众知情权“让路”。傅达林认为,“隐私权与知情权是可能产生冲突的两种应受法律保护的权利形态,关键在于选择和均衡。一般来说,因为当事人身份特殊,其行为会产生公共利益方面的影响,那么他们的隐私权保护范围就不应像普通人那样宽泛,例如公众人物、国家工作人员等,他们的隐私权很多时候要让位于公众的知情权;但对于普通公民而言,隐私权的范围应更大一些,因为其对公共利益的影响较小。具体区分由于我国立法尚未对隐私权作出细致规定,需要根据事件的"公益价值"进行判断和取舍。”

According to RuiHang brawl,Critics think,When a person's behavior has serious violation to the public interests,Privacy must be public right to know"way".FuDaLin think,"Privacy and the right to know is a possible conflict of two shall be protected by law the right shape,The key lies in choice and equilibrium.Generally speaking,Because of the special identity,His behavior will produce the effect of the public interest,So their privacy protection range you should not like ordinary people so broad,Public figures such as/State personnel, etc,Their privacy many times to make is located in the public's right to know;But for ordinary citizens concerned,The scope of privacy should be more,Because of their public interest less affected.Specific distinguish because our country legislation has yet to make detailed provisions of privacy,According to the need of the event"Public value"Judge and choices."

   B。当事人身份不同需承担法律后果不同 B.The different status must bear the legal consequences different

   查清身份,不仅是满足公众知情权的问题,也涉及到当事人后续承担的法律后果。9月6日《新京报》社论提出,舆论关注两人身份,尤其是被瑞士处以刑事处罚的年长乘客,是否有公职身份,“如果二人没有公职身份,目前的结果,基本可以确定就是最后的结果。然而,如果有公职身份,二人可能还将面临一系列的不利后果。而这些不利后果,是他们作为公职人员必须承受的代价。”

Gleaning identity,Not only is to satisfy the public right of being in know problem,The parties are involved in the subsequent bear the legal consequences.On September 6,[The Beijing news]Editorial put forward,Public opinion focus on two people identity,Particularly by Swiss impose criminal punishment elderly passengers,If there is a public identity,"If two people do not have a public identity,The present results,Basic can be sure is the final result.however,If there is a public identity,Two people may also will face a series of adverse consequences.And these adverse consequences,Are they as public servants must bear the price."

   中国人民大学刑法学博士饶明党解释,国家工作人员和军人与普通公民相比,在代表国家形象上具有更直接的影响力,因此在域外行为约束上,注意义务要比普通公众多,一旦触犯法律,不管是不是职务行为,都必须追究。

China people's university dr punishment law RaoMing party explanation,National staff and soldiers and compared to ordinary citizens,On behalf of the state in the image with more direct influence,So the extraterritorial behavior constraints,A duty of care more than the general public,Once beyond the law,No matter whether duty behavior,Must shall be investigated for.

   北京师范大学刑事法律科学研究院国际刑法研究所所长黄风教授对记者表示,中国公民在瑞士航空公司飞机上发生的刑事案件,属于域外刑事案件,根据我国刑法第7条规定,中国公民在域外有触犯我国刑法规定之罪的,适用我国刑法。

Beijing normal university criminal law science research institute international criminal law institute director yellow wind professor told reporters,Chinese citizens in the Swiss airlines to happen on the plane of the criminal case,Belong to the extraterritorial criminal case,According to our country criminal law the provisions of article 7,Chinese citizens abroad have beyond the provisions of the criminal law of the crime,In our criminal law is.

   记者在采访中了解到,根据我国刑法规定,对于中国人在国外犯罪的,采取属人管辖原则。刑法第7条的规定:“中华人民共和国公民在中华人民共和国领域外犯本法规定之罪的,适用本法,但是按本法规定的最高刑为三年以下有期徒刑的,可以不予追究。中华人民共和国国家工作人员和军人在中华人民共和国领域外犯本法规定之罪的,适用本法。”同时第10条规定:“凡在中华人民共和国领域外犯罪,依照本法应当负刑事责任的,虽然经过外国审判,仍然可以依照本法追究。”可见,对于我国公民在我国领域外犯罪,我国法律拥有管辖权。

Reporter in the interview to understand,According to the provisions of the criminal law,To the Chinese foreign crime,Take the personal jurisdiction principle.The provisions of article 7 of the criminal law:"Citizens of the People's Republic of outside the territory of the People's Republic commits a crime prescribed,This law shall apply to the,But according to the provisions for the highest punishment to fixed-term imprisonment of not more than three years,Can shall not be prosecuted.The territory of the People's Republic national staff and soldiers in the territory of the People's Republic of commits a crime prescribed,This law shall apply to the."At the same time, the provisions of article 10:"And in the territory of the People's Republic of crime,In accordance with this law, he shall bear criminal responsibility,Although after foreign judgment,Still may, in accordance with this law shall be investigated for."visible,For our country citizens in our country outside the territory of the crime,Our country law have jurisdiction.

   傅达林认为,和普通公民相比,刑法对于国家工作人员和军人作出更为严格的规定。同样的行为,普通公民不追究,国家工作人员和军人却可能追究。这里追究的前提是,该行为既触犯了涉案国的刑法,也同时触犯了我国的刑法。当然,刑事立法只是规定“可以”追究而不是“必须”追究,如果当事人在国外受到的处罚比较适当,那么我们也可以不追究。“就本案而言,两个人有公职还是没公职,可能决定他们是否应按照我国法律承担刑事责任。”

FuDaLin think,Compared with ordinary citizens,Criminal law for national staff and soldiers to make more strict rules.The same behavior,Ordinary citizens don't pursue,State personnel and military might for.Here is the premise of shall be investigated,This behavior is breaking the countries involved in the criminal law,At the same time breaking the criminal law of our country.Of course,Criminal legislation just provisions"can"Shall be investigated for not"must"Shall be investigated for,If the parties in a foreign country is appropriate punishment,So we can also let pass."In this case it,Two people have office or no public office,May decide whether they should according to our country law bear criminal responsibility."

   二人的身份不仅在刑事追究过程中有意义。有评论认为,如果二人有公务身份,他们应在公务员管理层面承受一定不利后果。傅达林解释说,一般来说,公职身份并不构成执法机关依法处罚的特殊要素,但如果当事人具有公职身份,那么违法行为还将带来公务员内部的相应处分,这样,其身份对于启动调查无疑具有重要意义。《公务员法》明确规定公务员条件中有“具有良好的品行”,同时有履行“模范遵守宪法和法律”的义务。无论是行政违法还是刑事违法,都意味着违法者并不符合公务员条件,也违反了其应当遵守的法律义务,理应受到行政处理。

The identity of the two people not only in shall be investigated for criminal process of meaning.Critics think,If men have official status,They should be in the civil servant management level under a certain adverse consequences.FuDaLin explained,Generally speaking,Public identity does not constitute a law enforcement organs in accordance with the special elements shall be punished,But if the parties have a public identity,So the illegal act will bring a civil servant internal corresponding punishment,this,Its identity to start survey of great significance.[Civil servant law]Explicitly stipulated in civil service conditions"Of good moral character",At the same time have to perform"Model abide by the constitution and the law"obligations.Whether administrative illegal or criminal illegal,All means that the offender does not conform to the civil service conditions,Also violated its shall comply with the legal obligations,Deserves administrative processing.

 

    近期机上斗殴事件:    The brawl in the near future:

    中国乘客又现空中互殴 两拨人对打影响飞机平衡     China passenger again now air blows two dial the man kumite influence aircraft balance

       不到一周,中国乘客又在飞机上打架。9月7日,在四川航空塞班飞上海的航班上,出现多位乘客互殴的场面。昨日,四川航空回应称,事发后,空保人员立即制止闹事乘客,控制住了航班上的局势。

  Less than a week,Chinese passengers on the plane and in the fight.On September 7,,In sichuan aviation saipan fly Shanghai flight,Appear many passengers fistfight scenes.yesterday,Sichuan aviation response says,After the incident,Empty the personnel immediately stop aggro passengers,Control the situation in flight.

  昨天,一段时长58秒的视频被不少网友转发。在这段视频中,一名穿黑色上衣的男子与另一位穿红白相间上衣的男子正在互殴,双方肢体动作十分激烈,不少旅客试图劝架,大喊"别打了,别打了",但是,另一名穿灰色上衣的男子又加入战团。眼看黑色上衣男子被打倒在座位上,又引发了双方多位好友加入互殴行列。视频结束前,一名空保人员将乘客拉开。

yesterday,A period of duration of 58 seconds video was not a few net friend forward.In this section of the video,A wear black coat with another man in red and white alternate with coat man is blows,The body movement is very fierce,Many passengers tried to sort,Shouting"Don't hit the,Don't hit the",but,Another name wear grey coat man and join the chapter.See black coat man was down in the seat,And caused both sides more friends join fistfight ranks.Video before the end of the,A empty protect personnel will open passengers.

    

    昆明飞沈阳航班5名女乘客打群架 被赶下飞机 Kunming fly shenyang flights five female passengers punch-up was cast off the plane

    昨天上午,武汉天河机场塔台指挥中心,突然接到正在万米高空飞行的翔鹏航空公司8L9881次航班机组人员报警。9点40分,航班准点到达后,天河机场航站楼派出所的民警已在停机坪中等候。

    Yesterday morning,Wuhan tianhe airport tower command center,Suddenly receive is meters high flying xiang 8 l9881 peng airlines flight crew alarm.Nine o 'clock 40 points,On the flight arrival,Tianhe airport terminal station of the police has set up a file in the apron of waiting.

  民警上飞机后,该航班的安全员和机组人员讲述了在万米高空的惊人一幕: 8L9881次航班由昆明飞往沈阳经停武汉,但该航班在飞行过程中,30多岁的沈阳旅客刘女士,将座位往后调整,遭到了座位后的同为沈阳旅客的18岁女乘客小许的抗议。

After the police on the plane,The flight safety officer and crew about in the meters high amazing scene: 8 l9881 flights to shenyang YouKunMing by stop wuhan,But in the process of the flight in flight,More than 30 years old of shenyang passenger liu,Will adjust the seat back,By the seat with after for shenyang passenger 18 years old female passengers small protests.

    外籍乘客证实军官打空姐 其家属自残诈伤     Foreign passengers confirmed officer play stewardess its family member self-mutilation is cheating

       9月1日,新华社中国网事记者联系上与方大国夫妇搭乘同一航班的非洲旅客多班。

On September 1,,Xinhua news agency reporters on the Chinese net matter contact with FangDaGuo couples on the same flight passengers Africa more class.

  据多班称,他一上飞机就注意到到方大国夫妇喝了酒,"酒气很大。"他们座位上方的行李箱已满,空姐建议他们把行李放到更前面,但这对夫妇不同意。随后,男乘客大声地对空姐说话。正当空姐准备回到自己座位时,方大国伸手捏住了空姐的手臂。空姐大声说:"我只是为你服务,你为什么是这样?"方夫人说,"如果没有我们,你连饭都没有的吃。"多班说:"我不知道是不是捏得很重,但我看到了空姐手臂上的伤痕。"多班称:"如果一开始那两口子有点礼貌,如果那个男的不动手,应该不会有冲突。在我看来,是那两口子的毛病。"

According to many class said,He had no sooner boarded the plane was noticed to FangDaGuo couple drank wine,"Smell great."They seat top of the trunk is full already,Stewardess suggested that they put the baggage on the front of more,But the couple don't agree.then,Male passengers talking loudly ground-to-air elder sister.As a flight attendant ready to return to his seat,FangDaGuo stretched out his hand and grabbed the stewardess arm.Stewardess said with a loud voice:"I just to serve you,Why are you so?"Party lady said,"If not we,You even haven't eat rice."Many said to Laban:"I don't know whether I pinch very heavy,But I see the stewardess arm wound."Many class said:"If at first that the couple a little courtesy,If the man's,There should be no conflict.In my opinion,Is that the couple problem."



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