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长假自驾游 异地交通违法申诉难--亲稳网络舆情监测室
2012-10-18

  本报讯 “省了500元过路费,收到三张超速罚单,高速免费省下的钱都还回去了。”近几天,本报陆续接到读者反映,国庆假期结束近十天,市民开始陆续收到驾车外出旅游时的违章罚单司机们自嘲省了高速费却赔了罚金。

Report from our correspondent "Saved 500 yuan toll,Received three speeding ticket,High speed free save money are back."In recent days,This newspaper has received the reader mirrors,National Day holiday end the nearly ten days,People began to have received drive out traveling violation ticket,Drivers self-mockery province toll fee and lose the fine.

  “这罚的也太不合理了!”记者采访了解到,接到罚单后,一些司机质疑外地高速限速低、标识不清让北京司机吃亏。此外,因不服处罚,有的司机开始提起行政复议或诉讼,但不便的是,车主只能到违章地去提起行政复议或行政诉讼。

"This penalty also is not reasonable!"Reporters learned,Received after ticket,Some drivers question field high-speed low speed limit/Label is not clear let Beijing driver suffer.In addition,Refuses to accept punishment for,Some drivers began to bring an administrative review or litigation,But the inconvenience is,The owner can only to illegal to bring an administrative reconsideration or administrative litigation.

  

■市民频收外地违章罚单 S citizens frequency accept foreign violation ticket

  今年年初,全国交通违法信息开始联网,北京市民驾车在外地违章,将由北京警方开寄罚单。

Earlier this year,The national transportation illegal information began to networking,Beijing residents in the field of driving,The Beijing police open send tickets.

  国庆中秋长假过后已近十天,近日市民陆续收到外地违章罚单,一些市民也在网络上晒出自己的违章罚单,这个说被罚了400元,那个说被罚了500元,多的则高达上千元。不少市民抱怨虽然免了过路费,但是违章罚单让这趟出行得不偿失。

National Day Mid-Autumn festival after a long holiday has nearly ten days,Recently people have received field violation ticket,Some people also on the network the sun drying out his violation ticket,The said been fined 400 yuan,The said been fined 500 yuan,More is as high as yuan.Many city residents complain that although from toll,But violation ticket make this trip to travel the loss outweights the gain.

  “全国交通执法联网了!别以为自己跨了省就可以肆无忌惮了,罚单照样追上门。”有市民自嘲,“高速路超速罚单,两张,同一个地方,一来一回,宣告我的长假出行没有免费。”

"The national traffic law enforcement the networking!Don't think you across the province can be without scruple the,Ticket so after the door."Have people laugh at themselves,"Highway speeding ticket,two,The same place,Way once,Declare my vacation travel no free."

  有的市民此前并不知道交通违法信息已经全国联网,“以为北京牌照在外地不会有违章问题,还告诉朋友们不用怕外地违章,结果回到家收到了罚单”。

Some citizens previously did not know the traffic illegal information has the national network,"Think Beijing licence in the field will not have illegal problem,Also told friends don't be afraid of field,The results back to the family received a ticket".

  记者从交管部门了解到,因为外地违章信息的录入以及罚单开具、寄出需要时间,因此北京司机在长假过后一周才开始陆续收到外地违章罚单。

Reporters from traffic department to know,Because nonlocal illegal information input and ticket issue/Mail need time,So Beijing drivers in a week after a long holiday began to have received field violation ticket.

  

■外地违章超速最多 S nonlocal speeding up

  在市民反映的外地违章问题中,以超速问题最为突出。仅浙江金华交管部门公布的统计就显示,在为期八天的免费通行中,丽水境内高速公路测速点平均每天拍下1000多辆超速的车子,是往年的两倍。

In the field of public reflect problems,A prominent problem for speeding.Only zhejiang jinhua tubal branch is released statistics show,In the eight days in toll free,Lishui domestic highway speed point on an average day took more than 1000 a speeding car,Is the last two times.

  此外,北京司机在外地出现的违法还包括违反禁止标线、违法停车和闯红灯等等。有司机说,国庆去外地的路上,由于高架堵车严重,途经苏州时在桥下面走了一段,不经意闯了红灯,结果“这个节假日加上耗油量,多付出以往2倍的费用”。

In addition,Beijing drivers appear in the field of illegal also include breach of forbidden line/Illegal parking and run a red light, etc.Have the driver said,National Day on the way go elsewhere,Due to the serious traffic jam overhead,Through the bridge when suzhou to go below a period,You ran a red light,The results"The holidays and fuel consumption,In the past more than the cost of pay 2 times".

  司机侯先生说,到了外地道路不熟,各地的管理规定也不一致,导致有时候违了章自己都不知道。一些司机也质疑,有些地方对违章标准的设定过于苛刻。

The driver Mr. Ho said,The field road are not ripe,All of the regulations are not uniform,Cause sometimes changed the chapter don't know myself.Some also questioned the driver,Some places to violate the rules and regulations of the standards set too harsh.

  也有一些司机面对罚单十分淡定:“长假收罚单这个事情非常正常,全国地理位置不一样,各地超速标准也不一样。通过这个事情,我觉得要学会开车看路标,要不然随便乱开,就只好认罚。”

There are also some drivers in the face of the ticket is very calm:"The long vacation tickets this matter is very normal,The national geographic position is not the same,All overspeed standard is different also.Through this thing,I think to learn how to drive see road signs,Otherwise literally disorderly open,Had to recognize to punish."

 

 ■本地无法救济市民提起诉讼 S local can't bring a lawsuit relief citizens

  有市民反映,外地高速超速违章,在本市只收到罚单,却没有照片确认。此外,记者从交管部门了解到,本市只管扣分收罚款,对于车主提出行政复议却不受理,车主只能到违章地去提起行政复议或行政诉讼。

Have people reflect,Field high-speed speeding violation,Only get a ticket in this city,But no photo confirmation.In addition,Reporters from traffic department to know,The city just accept a fine points,Owner puts forward for administrative reconsideration is not accepted,The owner can only to illegal to bring an administrative reconsideration or administrative litigation.

  “我觉得这是制度上的缺陷,我对处罚决定有异议,还要跑到黑龙江去申请行政复议?”刘先生和朋友到黑龙江自驾游,在高速富锦段收到三张超速罚单,他的超速行为发生在55分钟内。

"I think this is the institutional defects,I have objections to the penalty decision,Also ran to the heilongjiang to apply for administrative reconsideration?"Mr. Liu and friends to heilongjiang navigator,In the high speed FuJin section received three speeding ticket,His overspeed behavior happened in 55 minutes.

  刘先生认为根据我国《行政处罚法》“对当事人的同一个违法行为,不得给予两次以上罚款的行政处罚”规定,他是在一次通过富锦市交管部门管理的道路时出现的超速,应是“同一个违法行为”,因此开出三张罚单不合法。

Mr. Liu think according to our country[The law on administrative punishments]"The parties to the same illegal act,Two above shall not be given administrative penalty of fine"provisions,He is in a FuJinShi through tubal branch management road appear overspeed,Should be"The same illegal act",So open three ticket not legal.

  根据规定,他需要到违章处罚发生地提起行政复议,但因为罚款实际交到东城交通支队,刘先生准备把该支队告上法庭。

According to the regulation,He needs to penalty for violation of regulation occurred bring an administrative reconsideration,But because the actual make fine dongcheng traffic detachment,Mr. Liu ready to take the team to court.

  “我首先要解决的是管辖权的问题。”刘先生表示,“全国交通违法信息今年才开始全国联网,具体实施中存在一些缺陷在所难免,我希望能引起相关部门的关注,促进这些问题的解决。”

"First I want to solve the problem of jurisdiction is."Mr Liu said,"The national transportation illegal information this year began to nationwide network,The concrete implementation exist some defects unavoidable,I hope to be able to cause the attention of the relevant departments,Promote the solution of these problems."



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