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内地赴美生子热潮 10万“美国宝宝”值不值?--亲民维稳网络舆情监测室
2012-11-27
给我10万,还你一个价值980万的美国宝宝”;
“低门槛、低学费进入美国名牌大学或是研究所”;
"Low threshold/Low tuition to enter the United States famous university or institute";
“未来享受全球180多个邦交国入境免签证和最优惠出入境便利”……
"The future enjoy more than 180 global diplomatic Allies entry visa and the most preferential entry and exit convenience"……
随着赴港生子政策收紧,赴美生子的诸多“利好”吸引了越来越多的内地孕妇争做“美国人的爹妈”。
With a son to visit Hong Kong policy tightening,Gave birth to many"bullish"Attracted more and more mainland pregnant women vying for"American parents".
有媒体指出,2011年赴美生子已达5000人。“美国当地的华人老移民说,今年内地赴美生子得以万计。”多名近期赴美生子的家长说,美国西部洛杉矶华人社区是内地赴美生子的“产区”,随处可见孕妇三五成群。
Media reports said,2011 years have to has reached 5000."The United States local Chinese old immigration said,This year to the mainland to thousands of children."More than children in the near future to the parents say,The American west Los Angeles Chinese community is to mainland children"region",Pregnant women can be seen everywhere in knots.
北京、上海、广州、深圳等城市,诸多赴美生子中介在大肆招揽生意。“洛杉矶的月子中心,原来主要是做台湾人的生意,现在则主攻内地市场。”
Beijing/Shanghai/guangzhou/Shenzhen and other cities,Many children to intermediary in wantonly soliciting business."Los Angeles confinement center,The original is mainly do Taiwanese business,Now the main attack the mainland market."
人数要以万计,三大原因导致 With thousands of number,Three main causes
今年4月,家住北京的Jeremy妈妈挺着8个月大的肚子赴美产子。她的丈夫也放下生意一同前往陪产。6月15日,她的儿子Jeremy在美国出生,成为美国公民。
In April this year,Live in Beijing's Jeremy mother's 8 months to stomach births.Her husband is put down business going with herself from smooth delivery.June 15,,Her son Jeremy born in the United States,Became an American citizen.
1868年,美国宪法第十四条修正案通过,其中规定:“凡在美国出生或归化美国的人,均为合众国和他们所居住州的公民。”Jeremy妈妈告诉记者,这是她的第一胎,她很早就知道该规定,因此一怀孕就计划到美国生,“想让孩子多一个选择”。
In 1868,,The United States constitution amendment to article 14 through,The provision:"All persons born or naturalized in the United States,For the United States of America and all their citizens of the state."Jeremy mother told reporters,This is her first child,She was already know the rules,So a pregnancy is planning to the United States was born,"Want to let the child a choice".
早前,香港宣布明年开始实施“双非”孕妇零配额措施,内地孕妇跨过罗湖桥赴港生子“大门关闭”。于是,内地有实力的准妈妈们转向大洋彼岸,赴美生子今年迎来井喷。
earlier,Hong Kong announced the implementation of the next year"Double not"Pregnant women zero quota measures,The mainland pregnant women across the LuoHuQiao port to a son"Door close".so,The mainland has strength expectant mothers to ocean the other shore,Children in this year to blowout.
“听当地华人老移民说,去年内地赴美生子才5000人,今年则得以万计,翻了几番。” 家住上海的李彬(化名)是一名IT从业者,今年7月15日陪妻子赴美生子。他说,美国洛杉矶是内地赴美生子的主要集聚区,经常看到大腹便便的孕妇。
"Listen to the local Chinese old immigration said,Last year the mainland have to only 5000 people,This year it to thousands of,Turned over several and." Live in Shanghai li3 bin(alias)Is a IT practitioners,In July 15, to accompany his wife gave birth.He said,Los Angeles is the mainland children to the main concentration area,Often see potbellied pregnant women.
Jeremy妈妈居住的月子中心,跟她前后脚生孩子的孕妇就有十多个,多是内地去的。“我住的那栋别墅有4个妈妈,一个来自北京、一个来自上海、一个来自厦门,一个来自台湾。”
Jeremy mother live in confinement center,Course with her baby of the pregnant women have more than ten,Is the mainland go."I live in that villa have four mother,One is from Beijing/A comes from Shanghai/A from xiamen,A from Taiwan."
今年7月,家住杭州的林皓(化名)放下生意,陪着怀孕8个月的太太前往美国洛杉矶,9月在美国喜得一女。“她是我的第一个小孩,一开始我想让太太赴香港生,后来此路断了,就干脆到美国生。”
July,LinHao in hangzhou(alias)Down business,Accompany pregnant 8 months wife to Los Angeles,September in us joy and a woman."She is my first child,At first I want to let wife born in Hong Kong,Later road is broken,Simply born to the United States."
据林皓观察,赴美生子不外乎三种情况:计划生育超生,去美国生第二胎;移民,按美国法律,孩子满21周岁,父母可以办理依亲移民;给孩子弄个美籍,多一个选择。
According to LinHao observation,A son to nothing more than three kind of circumstance:Family planning policy,Go to the United States have a second child;immigrants,According to the laws of the United States,The child has reached the age of 21,Parents can be dealt with in accordance with the close immigration;Give children get a American,A choice.
来自福州的陈铭(化名),今年10月陪老婆去美国,“家里只有一个小孩,觉得他太孤单,就想再生一个。可我了解到,生二胎要交的社会抚养费比去美国生小孩的花费还多。”李彬称,超过一半以上的人是去生第二胎。
From fuzhou Ming Chen(alias),In October this year accompany a wife to go to America,"There is only a child,Think he is too lonely,Just want to regeneration a.But I know,Born two foetuses to deliver social support than to go to America to have a baby more cost."Li3 bin said,Over half of the people is to have a second child.
李彬和林皓在网上组建了赴美生子咨询群,先后免费帮助数百名赴美生子家长了解情况。他们告诉记者,赴美生子的群体,大部分人跟他们一样是中产,钱不算太多但还过得去,“各地都有,以北京、上海居多”。
Li3 bin and LinHao formed on the Internet to a son consulting group,Has free help hundreds of children to parents understand the situation.They told reporters,Gave birth to the group,Most people with them is middle,Money is not too much but also get by,"All over,In Beijing/Shanghai is in the majority".
“孕妇一般会提前两个月左右待产,所以太太大多没有工作,而老公在做生意。”在林皓看来,私营企业主是赴美生子的主力之一。李彬则透露,就他的观察,公职人员的亲属也占一部分。
"Pregnant women usually advance two months awaiting delivery,So most of Mrs. There is no work,And the husband in business."In LinHao seems,Private entrepreneurs is one of the main force to a son.LiBinZe revealed,He observed,Public servants relatives may also play a part.
中介除了扒层皮,帮不到什么忙 Intermediary besides steak skin,Can't help
赴美生子热潮背后,一个为之服务的产业链也在迅速地扩展。记者在百度搜索中输入“赴美生子”,在弹出的第一页20条信息中,16条是赴美生子广告。同样的广告,在微博、论坛上也比比皆是。
Children behind to boom,One for the service industry chain is rapidly expand.Reporter in the baidu search in the input"Gave birth to",In the pop up on the first page of the article 20 information,Article 16 is a son to advertising.The same advertising,In micro bo/BBS also can be found everywhere.
记者调查发现,如今北京、上海、广州、深圳等城市兴起了一批赴美生子中介公司。他们多在高档写字楼里租用办公室,通过网络吸引富裕家庭的孕妇赴美生子。
Reporter survey found,Now Beijing/Shanghai/guangzhou/Shenzhen city rise to a group of children intermediary company.They in high-grade office building rent in the office,Through the network to attract wealthy family of pregnant women have to.
林皓就是通过中介去美国的。他开始不太相信,特意跑到该中介在上海的总部,看到中介的办公室装修豪华,他放下了戒心,结果却发现自己被忽悠了。“简单来说,就是虚假宣传,收钱后不办事。”签合同时,林皓预交了5000美元,到美国后却发现中介当初的承诺几乎都不能兑现。
LinHao is through the intermediary of going to the United States.He began to don't believe that,Especially ran to the intermediary in the Shanghai headquarters,See intermediary office decoration luxurious,He put down the wariness,The results found that he was a cheat."In simple terms,Is false propaganda,Money does not work."When signing a contract,LinHao surrender $5000,In the United States found that intermediary original commitment are almost can't cash.
起初,中介向林皓推荐住处时,用的是single house(国内俗称别墅)图片,“很漂亮”;签约时,中介说房子紧,要林皓换成标准酒店服务型房间;上飞机前,中介又说房间没了,要他们到分馆。抵达美国后,林皓夫妇被安排住在一个比中国经济型酒店还差的地方,拿笔记本在房间桌子上网,抬起手腕时竟沾上桌子掉下来的油漆。
At first,Intermediary to LinHao recommend residence,With single house(Domestic commonly known as villa)pictures,"Very beautiful";When signing,Intermediary said house tight,To LinHao into standard hotel room service;Before on the plane,Intermediary and said the room didn't,To them to the branch libraries.Arrived in the United States after,LinHao couples are arranged to live in a better than China economy hotel also bad place,Take the notebook in the room table on the Internet,Raise the wrist that when with the table drop down of paint.
“中介收我6000美元/月,折合人民币37000多元,却住在一个最低档次的酒店。”让林皓更气愤的是,合同规定套餐是六菜一汤,到美国后却是三菜一汤或四菜一汤。“没营养不说,连吃饱都是奢望。”后来,夫妻俩在月子中心待不下去,便自己出去找民宿住。
"Intermediary charged me $6000 / month,Reduced RMB 37000 yuan,But live in a minimum class hotel."Let LinHao is more angry,The contract package is six vegetables a soup,To the United States is three vegetables a soup or four vegetables a soup."No nutrition don't say,Even eat satisfied is expect."later,A couple in confinement center won't stay down,He himself out and find a home stay facility live.
同样的事情也发生在陈铭身上。他通过国内中介预定美国月子中心,中介承诺住得很舒服,吃的是私家大厨饭菜,合同约定6000美元一个月,到美国后,他和爱人却被安排住在一个汽车旅馆,吃的都是外卖。
The same thing happens in Ming Chen body.His book the United States through domestic intermediary confinement center,Intermediary commitment live very comfortable,To eat is private chef cooking,The contract $6000 usd a month,To the United States,He and a lover but is scheduled to live in a motel,To eat is take out.
李彬原本跟中介约定,待产2200美元/月,坐月子2900美元/月;但美国月子中心出示的合同却变成了待产2900美元/月,坐月子是4900美元/月。
Li3 bin originally agreed with intermediary,Lie in $2200 / month,Lying in $2900 / month;But the United States confinement center present contract turned into labor $2900 / month,After having is $4900 / month.
陈铭、李彬、林皓与中介签约时,中介称美国的月子中心是其直营的,到美国后才发现他们是代理关系。“国内绝大多数赴美生子中介公司,与美国的月子中心只是纯代理关系。”“孕妇在月子中心有什么问题,国内中介就算有心也无力。”
Ming Chen/Li3 bin/LinHao and intermediary when signing,Intermediary says the United States is the center of the confinement of retail,In the United States found that they are agency relationship."The vast majority of children to domestic intermediary company,And America's confinement center is just pure agency relationship.""Pregnant women in confinement center what's the problem,Domestic intermediary even if cored is weak."
Jeremy妈妈没有通过中介,而是自己搞掂一切。“对中介我不放心。”事实证明,没有通过中介,她省下了近一半的钱。“整个费用下来13万元人民币,一个通过中介、跟我住同一月子中心、同样医生、同样医院的妈妈,3个月25万元人民币。”
Jeremy mother didn't pass intermediary,But his fix everything."To intermediary I don't trust."Facts have proved,Not through the intermediary,She saved nearly half of the money."The whole cost down 130000 yuan RMB,A through the intermediary/And I live the same confinement center/The same doctor/The same hospital's mother,Three months is 250000 yuan RMB."
李彬告诉记者,中介公司除了至少要从每个客户身上赚取上千美元,甚至几千美元的咨询费外,还参与其代理的月子中心的各种收费的分成,收入相当可观。“绝大多数公司从来不给客户开发票,甚至有的连收据都不肯开给客户。”“中介除了扒层皮,其实帮不到什么忙。”
Li3 bin told reporters,Intermediary company in addition to at least from each customer earn thousands of dollars,Even thousands, of dollars outside consulting fee,The agency also participate in the confinement center all sorts of charge into,Income considerable."The vast majority of the company never give the customer development ticket,Even some even receipt are not open to the customer.""Intermediary besides steak skin,In fact can't help."
门槛高难注册,月子中心良莠不齐 Threshold difficult registration,Confinement center the good and bad are intermingled
“之前有媒体报道说,赴美生子的孕妇入关要伪装、要躲。”Jeremy妈妈告诉记者,这是误传,完全没有必要,只要持合法的签证,海关不会因为是孕妇而拒通关,美国法律没有规定拒孕妇入境。
"Media reports said before,A son of the pregnant women to enter to camouflage/To hide."Jeremy mother told reporters,This is the misrepresentation,No necessary,As long as the legitimate visa,Customs will not because it is pregnant women and refused to customs clearance,The United States law did not stipulate refused entry to pregnant women.
在林皓看来,很多中介、月子中心经营者故弄玄虚,让赴美产妇产生做贼的心理,其实是为了让孕妇发现问题后不敢投诉,忍气吞声。
In LinHao seems,A lot of intermediary/Confinement center operators punches,Let women to produce thieving psychological,In fact is to let pregnant women after found that the problem can't complain,Submit to humiliation.
美国驻华大使馆此前答复中国媒体采访时也曾说,“目前没有任何法律反对外国孕妇以B1/B2(商务、旅游签证)或其他形式的签证赴美。” 据了解,从上世纪90年代开始,美国华人专门为台湾去美生子人士提供月子服务的产业就已产生。
The United States embassy reply after Chinese media interview also said,"There are no laws against foreign pregnant women to B1 / B2(business/Tourist visa)Or other forms of a visa to." It is understood,Since the 1990 s,The Chinese specifically for Taiwan to beauty son personage to provide the confinement service industry has been produced.
2008年6月,美国向中国开放个人赴美旅游签证申请。在美国各种签证中,旅游签证有效期最短,但也有6个月。这为内地孕妇赴美创造了条件,美国月子中心的生意迅速向内地市场转移。
In June 2008,The United States to China to open individual tourist visa application.In the United States in various visas,The validity term of tourist visa,But there are six months.The mainland pregnant women to create the conditions,The United States confinement center business rapidly to the mainland market transfer.
李彬发现,内地赴美生子集中在美国洛杉矶市东面几个小城市连起来的狭长区域,涵盖蒙特利公园、惠提尔、哈仙达岗、罗兰岗等,其中后两地的月子中心为数最多。“当地赴美生子产业链完备,从月子中心,到医院、医生,再到办证"黄牛",一应俱全。”
Li3 bin found,The mainland have to focus on the United States east of the city of Los Angeles a few small city even up long and narrow area,Covers monterey park/Hui tyre/Ha xian da duty/Roland duty, etc,One of the largest number two confined center."The local children to complete industrial chain,From confinement center,To the hospital/The doctor,To check"cattle",From soup to nuts."
林皓称,美国洛杉矶月子中心很多,但服务好的不多。“月子中心几乎没注册,不是不能注册,而是门槛很高。”按照美国法律规定,注册月子中心,需要满足:房子自购,对应数量的有执照护士。“洛杉矶月子中心房子多是租的,而且因为工资太高,月子中心请不起护士,多请一些黑工。”
LinHao says,Los Angeles confinement center many,But the service is good not much."Confinement center almost no registration,Not can't register,But threshold is very high."According to the American law,Registered confinement center,Need to meet:Since the house purchase,The corresponding number of licensed nurses."Los Angeles confinement center is the house rent,And because the salary is too high,Confinement center can't afford the nurse,Many please some HeiGong."
李彬、Jeremy妈妈也告诉记者,美国洛杉矶月子中心大多数不注册,完全靠月子中心老板的良心做生意。“月子中心多是不合法的机构,但妈妈们几乎有3个月的时间得吃在那、住在那,孩子还得在那被照顾。赴美生子整个环节风险最大的一个就是挑选月子中心。”
Li3 bin/Jeremy mother also told reporters,Los Angeles confinement center most not registered,Completely by confinement center boss conscience to do business."Confinement center is not legal institutions,But mothers almost 3 months time to eat in that/Lived in the,Children in the care.A son to the whole link risk the biggest one is selected confinement center."
“月子中心良莠不齐,又不愁没客,服务很差。”李彬说,大多数住在月子中心的孕妇都怨声载道,吃不饱、睡不好,有的甚至没水喝,不得不挺着大肚子去买水喝,“尤其是孤身前往的、没亲人在旁照顾的孕妇更惨,只能含着泪住在月子中心里把孩子生下。”
"Confinement center the good and bad are intermingled,And one need not worry about the guest,The service is poor."Li3 bin said,Most live in confinement center of the pregnant women are complain,Do not have enough to eat/Sleep well,Some even no water to drink,Have to stand big to buy water to drink,"Especially in alone/No relatives in the care of pregnant women more miserable,Tears can only live in the confinement center after the baby was born."
Jeremy妈妈说,住在月子中心,最担心的问题就是宝宝出事,在洛杉矶就发生过两三起因月子中心看护婴儿不当导致婴儿死亡的事情。
Jeremy mother said,Live in confinement center,Most worried about is the baby have an accident,It happened in Los Angeles two or three cause confinement center care baby infant death cause of improper things.
流程 process
1、申请签证(怀孕两个月左右)
1/Apply for a visa(Be pregnant two months)
2、预定美国月子中心(自助或者通过中介)
2/Reserve the United States confinement center(Self-help or through the intermediary)
3、赴美(一般怀孕8个月)
3/to(Be pregnant commonly 8 months)
4、在美国月子中心待产
4/In the United States confinement center awaiting delivery
5、医院生产
5/Hospital production
6、在美国月子中心坐月子
6/In the United States after having confinement center
7、为孩子申请美国护照和中国旅行证等证件
7/For the children apply for United States passport and China travel permit certificate, etc
8、回国
8/home
值?不值?难说! value?Isn't worth?It's hard to say!
美国的社会服务,是吸引准妈妈赴美生子的重要原因。一些中介宣传广告甚至把其量化,称花10万元人民币就能得到价值980万元人民币的“美国宝宝”:省掉择校费、学区房,轻松进中国名牌大学,美国读书便宜,父母可移民,美国收入高……真有这么值吗?其实要享受这些优质的社会服务,是有条件的,也很遥远,而现实中反而问题多多。
The United States social services,Is to attract quasi mother gave birth to an important reason.Some intermediary advertisement and its quantification,Say spend 100000 yuan can get value 9.8 million yuan ($)"The baby":Dispense with ZeJiaoFei/District room,Easily into the Chinese famous university,The United States reading cheap,Parents can immigrants,The high income……Really there are so value?In fact, to enjoy the high quality of community service,Is conditional,Is a distant,But the reality instead of problem.
9月份,林皓的女儿出生,他找了当地一个“黄牛”,帮女儿办理了出生证、美国护照、美国社会安全号码。妻子坐完月子后,林皓携妻女回国。而根据规定,在美国境内出生的儿童,如其父母双方均为中国公民且均未取得美国绿卡,该儿童前往中国应申办中国旅行证。回国前,林皓为女儿办理了中国旅行证,有效期是两年内可多次出入境。两年到期前,林皓应按届时相应的法律规定更新换证。
In September,LinHao daughter was born,He found a local"cattle",Help daughter dealt with a birth certificate/The United States passport/The United States social security number.His wife sit out after confinement,LinHao XieQi female home.And according to the regulation,Children born in the in the United States,If both parents are Chinese citizens and all did not get the American green card,The children went to China should bid for China's travel permit.Before you go back,LinHao for her daughter to deal with the Chinese travel permit,Is it valid for the two years can be multiple entry and exit.Two years prior to the maturity of,LinHao should press the corresponding laws and regulations the update.
记者查阅资料发现,就中国旅行证更换规定,中国有关政策偶有微调。这种政策变化的风险,往往没有纳入赴美生子家长的考量。
Reporter found that data access,Will China travel permit replacement provisions,Relevant Chinese policy I have fine.This kind of the change of policy risk,Often do not have a son to parents into consideration.
林皓计划女儿到了上学年龄后,让她上国际学校,接受双语教育,防止孩子以后赴美读书语言脱节。因为国际学校通常比普通学校贵不少,这意味着林皓对女儿教育投入要比一般家庭多。Jeremy妈妈则打算将来让儿子读私立学校。
LinHao plan daughter to go to school after age,Let her international school,Accept bilingual education,Prevent children to read out after language.Because international school is usually better than ordinary school your many,This means that LinHao education investment to her than general family more.Jeremy mom is going to the future let the son read private schools.
为了孩子将来更容易融入美国社会,李彬则考虑移民美国,让孩子从小接受美国教育。“其实,要成为某国人,并不是持有一个护照那么简单。他得接受当地文化、教育、社会等方面系统的熏陶,否则仍将格格不入。”“虽然无论是中国法律还是美国法律,都没有哪一条法律规定说,赴美生子是违法的行为。但是不违法的事情不一定是好的事情。”
For the children more easily into American society in the future,LiBinZe considering immigrating to the United States,Let the child accept American education."In fact,To be certain people,And not holding a passport so simple.He had to accept the local culture/education/Society, and the benefit of the influence of the system,Otherwise will still against the grain.""Although both Chinese law or the laws of the United States,Have no a law said,It is illegal to have the behavior.But not illegal things is not necessarily a good thing."
一些赴美生子的家长跟林皓交流时,称不考虑以后让孩子出国留学。“这是瞎折腾,毫无意义。一个空的美国国籍,等孩子满18岁以后,需要每年出境签证一次,麻烦!”
Some children to parents with LinHao exchange,Do not say to consider future let children study abroad."This is a blind flounder,There is no meaning.An empty American nationality,When the child is 18 years old later,Need to exit visa once a year,trouble!"
“这个选择是好是坏,我觉得不好说。一是跟人有关系,一是跟局势有关系。虽然未来你不知道到底是中国更好还是美国更好。但对孩子来说,就多了一个选择。”这是Jeremy妈妈的想法。
"This choice is good or bad,I feel bad to say.One is related with people,One is the situation with a relationship.Although the future you don't know what is the better better or the United States.But in the child,,Have a choice."This is the idea of Jeremy mother.
“家长一定要想清楚了再来。”李彬强调,家长千万不要因为跟风赴美产子,这对孩子来说未必是好事。
"Parents must think clearly again."Li3 bin emphasize,Parents don't because such to follow suit,In the child, this may not be a good thing.
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