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北京地铁下方拟规划建人工河--亲稳舆论引导监测室
2013-01-22

  北京的未来防洪格局是什么样?昨天,北京市相关部门负责人表示,防洪排涝规划创新性地提出,在北京的东、西两个方向,建设两条地下河。两条地下河联系起多条河道和地面上的公园等场所的水系。如此,一旦北京市遭遇局部暴雨,地下河将东西调整,地下连通,形成一个地下水网。

Beijing's future flood control pattern is what kind of?yesterday,The related department person in charge said,The preventing flood and draining waterlogging plan put forward innovative,In the east of Beijing/West two direction,Construction of two underground river.Two underground river link the multiple channel and ground park and other places of the drainage system.so,Once the Beijing encounter local storm,Underground river will adjust things,Underground connecting,Formation of an underground.

  “地下河并不是天方夜谭,城市发展到今天,我们北京市防洪系统不能东补一点,西救一点,要立体全面,放眼未来,未雨绸缪”。该内部人士表示,两条地下河将建在地铁下方。

"Underground river and not Arabian nights,Urban development to today,We Beijing flood control system can't fill east point,West save a little,To solid comprehensive,Looking forward to the future,Save for a rainy day".The insiders said,Two underground river will be built in the below.

  

防洪面临新困难 Flood control is confronted with new difficulties

  北京市水务局相关负责人表示,城市防洪面临的一个现实问题是要应对极端天气,随着北京城市人口的增多、路面硬化等问题,即便是遇到同样的降雨,但最终形成地面径流系数高,原有的河道难以全泄洪水,另一方面,北京城区河道随着多年的建设挖掘,已经无法再扩大,这样河道承载的洪水量也是有限的。此外,比如防汛预报、预警及决策系统,还难以及时全面掌握雨情、水情和工情,不能做到实时决策指挥。还比如防洪预案可操作性有待提高,应急管理能力需要加强。防汛社会化动员能力和管理水平有待提高,防灾减灾信息发布也有待提高。

The Beijing municipal bureau of the relevant person in charge said,Flood control a practical problem facing is to deal with extreme weather,With the increase of population in Beijing city/Problems such as road sclerosis,Even meet the same rainfall,But eventually form the surface runoff coefficient tall,The original river flood water to all,On the other hand,The Beijing city river with years of construction mining,Was unable to expand,This channel carrying the flood discharge is also limited.In addition,Such as flood forecast/Early warning and decision-making system,It is difficult to fully grasp timely rainfall regime/Water regime and work feeling,Can't do real-time decision command.Also such as flood control plan to improve the operability,It is necessary to strengthen the ability of emergency management.Flood control and socialization mobilization ability and the management level to improve,Disaster prevention and mitigation is a need to further improve the information release.

  对于现阶段启动防洪规划的编制,该官员表示,通过编制防洪排涝规划,我们要采用防渗蓄排的方式,通过点面治蓄、管网收排、河道畅泄、地下廊道的联调等综合措施,在北京市中心城形成多点一网,两纵四横的防洪格局,最终实现雨水收得进、排得出、流得畅、用得上的格局。

Flood control planning for the current start preparation,The official said,Through the establishment of flood control drainage planning,We should use seepage control storage row of way,Through the point surface to storage/Network take-up/Channel chang drain/Underground gallery of alignment, and other comprehensive measures,In the center of Beijing city form multi-point a network,Two longitudinal four cross flood control pattern,Finally realize the rain in/Row that/Flow to chang/Use pattern.

  

北京规划建两条地下河 Beijing planning to build two underground river

  对于“地下廊道”的说法,有关内部门人士表示,目前的初步规划是,建议北京市借鉴发达国家建设地下河。据了解,北京市防洪排涝规划大纲现在已经完成。而其中众多技术人员提出一个大胆的设想,将在北京城东西两个方向建设两条“地下水廊道”。两条地下河,西边的一条是从西郊砂石坑开始,横穿丰台区的新开渠上游,然后横着走,到水崖沟,一路沿着海淀丰台以及西客站上游地区,最终连上永定河。另一条地下河把清河、坝河、通惠河连通,甚至地面上的朝阳公园等也将联系起来。

for"Underground gallery"that,In the relevant department say,The preliminary planning is,Suggestions in the developed countries for reference of Beijing construction of underground river.It is understood,Beijing flood and draining waterlogging planning program is now complete.And among them many technical personnel put forward a bold idea,Will be in Beijing things two direction construction two"Groundwater gallery".Two underground river,On the west side of the west from a sand pit began,Across the fengtai new channelization upstream,Then sidle,To water YaGou,All the way along the haidian fengtai and west railway station upstream region,Eventually even on the yongding river.The other an underground river the qinghe/Dam river/Pass HuiHe connected,Even on the ground the chaoyang park and so on also will contact the up.

  对于规划是否可行?有关人士表示,规划并不难实现,这是解决北京市防洪问题的一个更深层次的做法。目前香港已经在建设,地下直径四米二左右,直接将雨水排到香港的海里。而欧洲等发达国家都已经有地下河,甚至有的国家地下河还能划船。我们的规划是,北京这两条地下河建设在地铁下面,直径4米到7米左右。

Whether it is feasible for planning?Officials said,Planning is not difficult to achieve,This is to solve the problem of flood control of a deeper approach.Hong Kong has now in construction,Four metres underground diameter 2 or so,The rainwater drained directly to Hong Kong sea.And Europe and other developed countries have underground river,Even some countries underground river can boating.Our plan is,Beijing this two underground river construction in the subway,Diameter 4 m to 7 m.

 

 地下河有助实现雨水利用 Underground river helps achieve rainwater to use

  据介绍,北京市将启动应对雨水的一系列改造工程,最终实现雨水“收得进、排得出、流得畅、用得上”。有关负责人表示,如果北京市下大雨,局部强降雨,比如房山雨很大,但东边下得很小。有了地下河,西边的水流到别的地方了,而且更重要的是,我们把雨水留住了,我们能用上雨水了,对于北京市这样一个缺水的城市,这是非常好的办法。

According to introducing,Beijing will launch a series of reconstruction project to rain,Finally realize the rain"Into the/Row that/Flow to chang/use".Relevant person in charge said,If Beijing of the heavy rain,Local heavy rainfall,Such as well as the big rain,But under the east to be small.The underground river,On the west side of the water flow to other place,And more important is,We keep the rain,We can use the rain,For such a water shortage in Beijing city,This is a very good way.

  北京市防洪排涝规划的相关规划参与者表示,如今北京市河道无法再高再宽,但人口无限膨胀,建筑区不断扩大,这样的一个格局,伴随耕地少、地面径流高、排洪通道减少等现实问题,必须要拓展思维,另辟新径。前些年北京的水资源短缺,可能也就是一两年遇到一回暴雨,但7·21暴雨给了我们一个警示,我们要未雨绸缪,平时就要重视防洪功能建设。因此有了建设地下河的设想。

Beijing flood and draining waterlogging planning related planning participants said,Now Beijing channel can't GaoZaiKuan,But population to infinity,Building area growing,Such a pattern,With little arable land/Surface runoff high/Human activities such as channel to reduce real problem,Must develop thinking,Additional monarch new diameter.Before some year Beijing the shortage of water resources,May also is met once a year or two heavy rains,But 7 · 21 heavy rains gave us a warning,We want to save for a rainy day,At ordinary times will pay more attention to the construction of flood control function.So have the idea of the construction of underground river.

  对于所需资金,该人士表示,规划做完了,政府批了,很多工程,责任主体都要行动起来,比如北京市正在弄一个水务投资平台,资金压力大但有了这个平台创新投资体制,以前很多实施不了因为资金问题的,就可以通过这个平台筹集资金,但是工程需要很多部门付出努力。

For the funds required for the,The people said,Planning done,The governments of the,Many engineering,The main body of responsibility for all want to action,Such as Beijing is make a water affir investment platform,Capital pressure but with this platform innovation investment system,Before implementing a lot not because of the money problem,Can through this platform to raise money,But the project need a lot of department the effort.

  

声音 voice

  水利规划设计研究院副院长张彤 Water conservancy planning design and research institute vice President zhang tong

  

北京有建设的必要性 Beijing has the necessity of building

  昨天,北京市政协委员、水利规划设计研究院副院长张彤则有自己的看法。她认为,北京市有必要建设这样的工程。张彤表示,任何一个项目论证其是否可行,要综合考虑多个因素,对于现阶段的北京市来说,城市快速发展,人口膨胀,必须要考虑多种方法来解决城市防洪排涝问题。但是这个“地下河”的想法,一定要经过科学的论证,要听取不同的声音,公示出来,然后逐步修正,让方案更加科学可行。

yesterday,Beijing's political consultative conference (CPPCC)/Water conservancy planning design and research institute vice President zhang tong have their own views.She thinks,Beijing is necessary to build that project.Zhang tong said,Any one proves that the project is feasible,To comprehensive consideration of various factors,For the current for Beijing,Fast urban development,Population expansion,Must want to consider a variety of methods to solve the urban flood drainage problems.But the"Underground river"idea,Must through scientific demonstration,To listen to different voice,Public out,Then gradually modified,Make plan more scientific and feasible.

  张彤强调,包括地下河的走向,什么样的一个路由,此外地下河的安全系数等等,要准备多种方案供专家和技术人员论证。当然,成本高等实际问题,也是必须要考虑的。但她认为,是否要建设首先要看必要性和紧迫性,北京市具备建设的必要性和紧迫性。

Zhang tong stressed,Including the trend of the underground river,What kind of a routing,In addition the safety factor of the underground river, etc,To prepare a variety of schemes for experts and technical personnel argument.Of course,Cost higher practical problems,Also have to consider.But she thinks,Whether to build the first to see the necessity and urgency,Beijing has the necessity and the urgency of the construction.

 

 中国工程院院士王浩 Chinese academy of engineering wang hao

  地下河规划非常好 Underground river planning is very good

  中国工程院院士王浩认为,地下河的规划非常好,尤其是解决降雨不均,局地降雨问题。7·21那场暴雨是房山雨大,如果雨水集中在西山,北京西高东低的地势,西山的雨水将倾泻进城,那样带来的灾难将远超7·21,城区可能将被淹,后果难以预料。如果建设地下河,将有利缓解雨水收排的难题。

Chinese academy of engineering that wang hao,Underground river planning is very good,Especially solve uneven rainfall,Local rainfall problem.7 · 21 the rainstorm is well as the big rain,If the rain concentrated in the west,In the northwest of low relief,The rain will pour into the city,That will bring disaster far above 7 · 21,City is likely to be flooded,Unpredictable consequences.If the construction of underground river,Will the rain good ease the problem of the row.

 

 清华大学教授傅涛 Tsinghua university professor FuTao

  建设成本须首要考虑 The cost of construction should be the primary consideration

  清华大学傅涛教授认为,建设地下河的成本过高,这个是要首先考虑的问题。而北京师范大学教授、国家减灾委专家委员会委员李京接受记者采访时,则给出了更多建设性的意见。

Tsinghua university professor FuTao think,Construction of the underground river high cost,This is to first problem.And professor of Beijing normal university/National disaster reduction committee experts committee LiJing when accepting a reporter to interview,It gives more constructive Suggestions.

  李京说,如果设计得好,当然是可行的,比如很多国外也都有这种地下河道,也就是相当于地下管道。通过这样的地下大水管道把雨水排出去。但李京同时提醒要考虑几个问题,首先要注意北京地下管道的复杂性,所以建设之前,地基肯定要想好了,做好设计,第二个问题可能要考虑,一旦北京再发生洪水,这个地下河道的出口在哪,尤其是那些地势低的地方。第三个是北京如果遇到大的雨洪水,把地面的东西冲到地下,要考虑垃圾的定时清理,不能影响河道的流畅。要做到每年的洪水季节前,一定要清理干净。

LiJing said,If well designed,Of course is feasible,Like many foreign also have this kind of underground river,Also is equivalent to underground pipeline.Through the underground water pipe the rain eduction.But LiJing also remind to consider a few questions,First of all should pay attention to the complexity of the Beijing underground pipeline,So before the construction of,Foundation must think good,Completes the design,The second problem may want to consider,Once the Beijing flood happened again,The underground river export,Especially the low-lying areas.The third is the Beijing if meet the big rain floods,The ground things rushed to the underground,Want to consider rubbish regularly cleaned,Cannot affect channel is fluent.To do each year before the flood season,Must clean up.

  最后一个重要的问题,当然是成本问题。因为北京地下工程很多,地基很深,如果地下河道挖得特别深,肯定成本高,所以如何花钱,如何用钱,如何省钱,这些都要在做规划时,要提前想好思路,做好设计。

The last important question,Of course is cost.Because a lot of Beijing underground engineering,Deep foundation,If the underground river to dig special deep,Sure high cost,So how to spend money,How to use the money to,How to save money,These are doing planning,Want to advance to good ideas,Completes the design.

  

背景 background

  7·21后北京更重视防洪 7 · and pay more attention to Beijing after the flood control

  北京市水务局相关人士表示,7·21之后,北京市的治水,可以说要解决的重点有侧重,比如前些年,北京连续干旱水资源短缺问题突出,而政府的资金是有限,我们就要解决最紧迫的水资源短缺问题,比如建设应急水源地,建设南水北调工程,从河北调水满足市民需要等。实际上北京的缺水是很紧迫的,但是老百姓却感受不到危机。如果在别的国家,可能这种水资源短缺的情况,早就停水、断水了,但是北京市民还是照常用水。经过过去这些年的努力,随着2014年长江水进京,北京水资源短缺基本得到缓解,这样防洪的问题,确实是应该加大投入。没有大投入,再来一场暴雨,就很难说有多危险了。

The Beijing municipal bureau of relevant personage says,7 · 21 after,Beijing's water conservancy,Can say to solve key on,Such as in previous years,Beijing continuous drought shortage of water resources problems,And the government's capital is limited,We will solve the most pressing problem of water shortages,Such as the construction of emergency water source,The construction of the south-to-north water diversion project,Hebei water from meeting the need, etc.In fact the water shortage in Beijing is very urgent,But people can't you feel it crisis.If in other countries,May this water shortages,Would have cut off the water/Out of water,But Beijing residents or water as usual.After all these years of hard work in the past,With 2014 older besides the river,Beijing basic ease the shortage of water resources,So the problem of flood control,It is should increase financial investment.No big investment,Another storm,It would be hard to have more dangerous.

  有关人士表示,现在“一桥一策“这些都是临时的措施,就是每个桥下挖个水坑,我们要有一个长远系统的规划,只有这种措施是有效的。

Officials said,now"A bridge for a"These are all temporary measures,Each bridge is dig a puddle,We would like to have a long-term system planning,Only the measures are effective.



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