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香港官方称限购奶粉属不得已行为 日后考虑调整--亲民维稳网络舆情监测室
2013-03-08
人民网香港3月7日电 香港特区政府3月1日起实施婴幼儿奶粉限购政策,每名16岁以上人士每日不得携带超过两罐奶粉出境。一度猖獗的往返两地奶粉水客活动近日平静下来,但舆论的争议却愈演愈烈,不少社会名人包括网络红人如潘石屹、李开复等都出来指责香港限购奶粉不合理及处罚过于苛刻。
People's Daily March 7 (xinhua) Hong Kong SAR government in Hong Kong on March 1, implementation of infant milk powder restrictions,Each more than 16 years of age shall not be carried by people daily for more than two cans of milk powder.Once rampant commute powder water guest activity has calmed down,The dispute has intensified,Many social celebrities including online sensations, such as pan shiyi/Kai-fu lee, etc to come out so blamed Hong Kong purchase milk powder is not reasonable and the punishment is too harsh.
香港食物及卫生局局长高永文就此接受人民网专访,解析政策制定的因由,并就内地民众关心的问题一一作出解答。
Hong Kong's secretary for food and health bureau chief Gao Yongwen to accept an interview with People's Daily online,The resolution policy,And mainland people concern to solve every problem.
对象:限购不得已 非针对内地人 object:Restricted to the mainlanders
一个小时的专访,“不得已”是高永文强调最多的字眼。
One hour of interview,"forced"Is Gao Yongwen stressed words at most.
高永文说,从今年1月份起,香港婴幼儿配方奶粉供应开始出现紧张。最初是与深圳接壤的北区边境地区,之后从北区的上水、粉领、元朗蔓延至沙田,再到九龙、港岛,有本地父母觉得购买奶粉困难。
High forever ',Starting from January this year,Hong Kong started to nervous supply of infant formula.Originally from shenzhen north of the border region,After the water from the north/pink-collar/Spread to the sha tin, yuen long,And then to Kowloon/Hong Kong island,Have local parents find it difficult to buy milk powder.
特区政府初期采取了一系列措施应对本地“奶粉荒”,如要求奶粉商增加供应、政府为本地人购买奶粉设立热线电话、连同执法部门抑制奶粉水货活动。可惜这些措施均没能全面改善局面,奶粉水货活动仍愈演愈烈,高永文说,有鉴于此,特区政府才不得已采取限购,措施并非针对内地居民和自由行。
The government adopted a series of measures to cope with the early local"Milk powder waste",As for milk powder to increase supplies/The government set up a hotline for locals to buy milk powder/Along with law enforcement to suppress powder gray market activity.It's a pity that these measures have failed to fully improve the situation,Milk powder gray activity is still worse,High forever ',With this in mind,The SAR government to purchase of necessity,Measures are not for mainland residents and freedom.
高永文承认,限购客观上影响了内地与香港民众之间的感情,这也是他所不愿看到的,他说自己一向是一个很注重内地与香港民众血脉相通的人,希望内地民众能谅解。
Gao Yongwen admitted,Restricted objectively affect the affection between the mainland and Hong Kong people,This is what he is not willing to see,He said he has always been a very pay attention to the mainland and Hong Kong people veins is same person,Hope to understanding people on the mainland.
目的:稳本地供应 无歧视水货客 purpose:Local supply of gray guest without discrimination
高永文说,限购奶粉目的在于确保本地婴儿有充分的供应。虽然从整体上看,香港奶粉供应充足,但严重的水货活动已影响到市民的正常需求。
High forever ',The purpose is to ensure that local baby milk powder for purchasing have ample supply.Although as a whole,Hong Kong milk powder in plentiful supply,But serious gray activities have affected people's normal needs.
被问及民意压力过大是否是政策推出的关键因素时,高永文认为,不完全是民意的问题,而是生活、是民生,民生问题无小事。
Asked whether public opinion pressure policy introduction of the key factors,Gao Yongwen think,Not is entirely a matter of public opinion,But life/Is the livelihood of the people,The livelihood of the people question no small matter.
有评论认为香港作为自由港,实行限购奶粉这种生活用品有违自由贸易的原则,高永文回应,奶粉是婴儿生长的必需品之一,关乎千家万户的利益,不同于一般的商品贸易。
Critics believe that Hong Kong as a free port,For milk powder for purchasing the groceries is against the principle of free trade,Gao Yongwen response,Milk powder is one of the necessities of infant growth,The interests of families is about,Different from general merchandise trade.
高永文表示,特区政府对自由行没有负面的看法,并一直心存感激;对于水货活动,特区政府认为这是自由贸易的一部分,如果不是影响到婴儿必需品的供应,政府不会采取这种措施。
Gao Yongwen said,The SAR government to free line no negative point of view,And always grateful;For the gray market activity,The SAR government think this is part of the free trade,If it is not affect the supply of baby necessities,The government won't take such measures.
重罚:最严重罪行 非小规模违规 Heavy fines:The most serious crimes of small-scale irregularities
新措施规定,超额携带奶粉出境人士可将被处以50万港元罚款及两年监禁。针对处罚是否过严,高永文解释,香港法例规定的是最高处罚力度,针对的是严重的违法犯罪行为,如大规模走私等,50万港元及两年监禁的最高处罚一般不会适用到小规模的违规水客身上。
The new measures,Carrying milk powder exit to excess will be two years in prison and a fine of hk $500000.In view of the punishment is too strict,Gao Yongwen explain,Hong Kong is the highest penalties prescribed by the law,For serious illegal and criminal behavior,Such as large-scale smuggling,Hk $500000 and two years in prison for the highest punishment does not generally applicable to small-scale irregularities in water body.
过去近一周,香港的法院针对超额携带奶粉违例者已作出5宗判决,全部是罚款处罚,被罚金额由500港元至5000港元不等。
In the past nearly a week,Hong Kong court in excess of milk powder to carry violations has made five sentence,All is fine,Penalty amount is hk $500 to hk $5000.
高永文说,相信香港的法院会根据每宗案件的情节和严重性来裁判,他也希望内地民众能理解最高处罚针对的范围是更大的。
High forever ',Believe that Hong Kong courts will according to the plot of each case and gravity to the referee,He also hope that the mainland people can understand the supreme punishment for range is larger.
时限:暂无时间表 根在完善供应 Time limit:No root in perfecting the supply schedule
奶粉限购实施后,高永文表示,根据市面监测的情况来看,政策基本达到预期效果。
Milk powder is restricted after implementation,Gao Yongwen said,According to the monitoring of the market,Policy achieves the expected effect.
对于社会关心的限购政策何时取消,高永文说,现阶段还不能给一个时间表,特区政府会一直密切跟进、监察情况的发展,然后再决定有没有推行的必要。
For social care restrictions when cancelled,High forever ',Now also can not give a timetable,The SAR government will continue to follow up closely/Monitor the development of the situation,Then decide if necessary to push.
高永文认同,限购不是一个永久的措施,具有单一和局限性。他表示,最根本的还是要完善奶粉供应商和零售商的供应链,只有这样才能彻底解决问题,而限购也是在给市场一个准备和应对的时间。
Gao Yongwen identity,Is not a permanent measures for purchasing,With a single and limitations.He said,Most fundamental is to improve milk powder supplier and the retailer's supply chain,Only in this way can thoroughly solve the problem,And to the market as a preparation for purchasing and response time.
香港奶粉限带令的前世今生
Milk powder in Hong Kong limited band that all men are mortal
南方都市报 作者:康殷 何薇报道 "只是多买一罐奶粉都被罚,下次来香港不会再买奶粉了",46岁的内地居民林尤祝,在香港奶粉"限带令"实施首日,携带三罐奶粉离境,前日被香港法院判罚1000港元(下同),在沙田裁判法院外,缴付完罚款的林尤祝虽然认为香港法庭的裁决合理,但却略带不满地抱怨这样的条例太麻烦。
Southern metropolis daily, author: Kang Yan He Wei reports "Just buy a can of milk powder were more punishment,Next time won't buy milk powder to Hong Kong",46, mainland residents YouZhu Lin,Milk powder in Hong Kong"With limit"Carried out on the first day,Carrying three cans of milk powder from leaving the country,Yesterday was a Hong Kong court award of hk $1000(The same below),In sha tin the referee out of court,Pay the fine Lin YouZhu although think the decision of the court of Hong Kong is reasonable,But slightly unhappy too troublesome to complain about such regulations.
香港奶粉限带令自3月1日实施以来已一周,目前香港海关由于涉及携带超额奶粉出境而拘捕的人次已达87名,被定罪的5宗个案,分别被判罚500至5000元不等,在被拘捕的人士中,香港海关还截获了8名持深港两地牌照的跨境司机。
Hong Kong milk powder with limit has been a week since March 1 to implement,The Hong Kong customs detained by involved in smuggling out excess milk powder has reached 87 people,Convicted in 5 cases,Sentence of between 500 and 5000 yuan respectively,In people, was arrested,Eight Hong Kong customs has intercepted a deep Hong Kong cross-border driver licence.
对于港府来说,限带令的出台,确实可谓达到了预期的效果。在零售的供应层面,港府已没有再收到缺货或投诉的情况。
For the government,With limit,Indeed has the desired effect.In the supply of retail level,The Hong Kong government have never received complaints of out of stock or situation.
但对港府奶粉限带令的争议,已经从香港的口岸燃烧到网络世界,再在全国两会的议政舞台上引爆。"特区政府从来没有表示过这个政策(奶粉限带令)是短期还是长期的,我们也不希望在这个阶段就将这个期限下一个决定。"香港食物及卫生局局长高永文措辞谨慎,"我们的立场一向是政府会不断跟进和监察,再决定有没有继续推行的需要。但现阶段措施才刚推出,我们不会就此给出承诺和时间表。"或者未来,还有更多的林尤祝,因为奶粉而被判罚,奶粉的战争也并未消停。
But for the Hong Kong government milk powder with limit,Already from the port of Hong Kong combustion to the online world,Again in the national annual parliamentary stage detonated."The SAR government has never said this policy(Milk powder with limit)Is short or long term,We also don't want at this stage will be the deadline next decision."Hong Kong's secretary for food and health bureau chief Gao Yongwen careful wording,"Our position has always been the government will continue to follow up and supervision,And then make a decision if there is any need to continue.But at this stage just launched,We are not give promises and schedule."Or the future,There are many more YouZhu Lin,Is awarded for milk powder,Milk powder of war did not cease.
中英街的热闹 The excitement of the ZhongYingJie
港府限带奶粉离境后,中英街每到周末人流激增,从平日4000多人,翻倍到周末的8000多人。中英街成为执法盲点,有水客因此继续运送配方奶粉。港府表示海关会监察售卖情况。
The Hong Kong government bandlimited milk powder after the departure,A surge in ZhongYingJie every weekend,From more than 4000 people,Doubled to more than 8000 people over the weekend.ZhongYingJie become a blind spot for law enforcement,There is water therefore continue to deliver formula.The Hong Kong government said the customs will monitor the sales situation.
"美素一段298港元,你要几罐?"深圳沙头角中英街。昨日中午12时,人流没有周末拥堵。数百米的中英街上,药房林立,奶粉是各家药房必不可少的紧俏货。
"Beauty, a hk $298,Do you want some more?"Shenzhen shatoujiao ZhongYingJie.Yesterday at 12 noon,Traffic congestion no weekend.Hundreds of meters ZhongYingJie,The pharmacy with,Milk is an essential part of each pharmacy JinQiaoHuo.
"这种是安怡奶粉,成人喝的,不限购。"店员热情地凑上来说。货架上还有整排的美素和美赞臣奶粉,都是内地游客最抢手的奶粉品牌。"现在中英街的婴儿奶粉也是限带两罐,外面贴有海报。"女店员指指店铺外,香港海关印制的奶粉新规海报。
"This is grace,Adults drink,Don't purchase."Staff enthusiasm for.Shelves and the beauty of the whole row and mead Johnson milk powder,Tourists from the mainland are the most popular brand of milk powder."Now ZhongYingJie with two cans of infant milk powder is also,Out with the poster."Female clerk at the store,The milk powder new rules posters printed in Hong Kong customs.
"你买这么多奶粉啊?""我来的人多,分开每人带两罐嘛。"药房一位中年妇女,购物篮里放着8罐奶粉,既有美素也有海外进口版本的婴儿奶粉,正在排队结账。沙头角中英街因为历史原因,进入街道需要办理《往来边境特别管理区通行证》。目前,该证件有两种,一种是一次性的,因为颜色为蓝色被称为"蓝证";另一种是多次出入三个月有效的,因为颜色为黄色而被称为"黄证"。
"You buy milk powder ah so much?""I come to more people,Separate each with two cans."The pharmacy is a middle-aged woman,Shopping basket with eight cans of milk powder,Both the element and the overseas version of the baby milk powder,Are lining up to check.Sha tau kok ZhongYingJie because of historical reasons,Into the need to deal with the street[With special administrative zone along the border pass].At present,There are two kinds of the certificates,One is a one-off,Because the color for the blue is called"The blue card";Another kind is valid in three months,Is called because of the color to yellow"Yellow card".
去年9月起,无论深户还是非深户,只需带上身份证支付10元费用,10分钟内即可办理一次性出入证。相比经罗湖、福田、深圳湾口岸舟车劳顿的购物成本,中英街显然更为划算,尤其在港府限带奶粉离境后。今年来,中英街每到周末人流显然激增,从平日4000多人,翻倍到周末的8000多人。
Last September,No matter deep or not deep households,Only need to bring id card to pay the cost of 10 yuan,10 minutes can deal with a one-time entry badge.Compared to the lo wu/Mr Fukuda/Shenzhen bay port eastlands shopping costs,ZhongYingJie obviously more cost-effective,Especially after the government limit with milk powder from leaving the country.In recent years,ZhongYingJie obviously in every weekend,From more than 4000 people,Doubled to more than 8000 people over the weekend.
"深户只能每隔七天办理一次蓝证,非深户则每月办理一次。这是为了防止水客增加。"广东边防六支队的相关人士介绍。但对于过万名中英街的上班族和2000多名原居民,就没有上述规定。"每次带两罐,一天往返多几次,也可以带上好几罐奶粉。"有当地的工作人员说。
"Deep households can only deal with a blue card every seven days,The deep households are dealt with once a month.This is to prevent water increase."Relevant personage introduces guangdong border of six crews.But for the thousands of ZhongYingJie workers and more than 2000 residents,Without the above regulations."Each time with two cans of,More back and forth a few times a day,Can also take several cans of milk powder."Is there a local staff said.
中英街成为香港海关"执法盲点",有水客因此继续运送配方奶粉。港府承认,由于历史原因中英街没有设检查站,为此港府要求中英街于香港范围的商铺记录出售奶粉数目,香港海关会监察售卖情况。
ZhongYingJie for Hong Kong customs"Law enforcement and blind spots",There is water therefore continue to deliver formula.The government admitted that,Due to historical reason ZhongYingJie did not set a checkpoint,For the Hong Kong government asked ZhongYingJie range number of record shops selling milk powder in Hong Kong,Hong Kong customs will monitor the sales situation.
上水的落寞 The loneliness from water
"以往最多每日卖100多罐,现在只有40罐左右,奶粉生意大跌九成。打击水货客我们没意见,现在就连自由行旅客都一起误伤。"香港药房经营者彭氏夫妇表示很担心未来的经营情况。
"Most previous sold more than 100 cans per day,Now only about 40 cans,Milk powder business fell ninety percent.Against gray guest we have no opinion,Now even the free line passengers were injured."Hong Kong pangs' pharmacy operators said worried about future business.
香港奶粉限带令自3月1日实施以来已一周,目前香港海关由于涉及携带超额奶粉出境而拘捕的人次已达87名,被定罪的5宗个案,分别被判罚500至5000元不等,在被拘捕的人士中,香港海关还截获了8名持深港两地牌照的跨境司机。
Hong Kong milk powder with limit has been a week since March 1 to implement,The Hong Kong customs detained by involved in smuggling out excess milk powder has reached 87 people,Convicted in 5 cases,Sentence of between 500 and 5000 yuan respectively,In people, was arrested,Eight Hong Kong customs has intercepted a deep Hong Kong cross-border driver licence.
没有中英街得天独厚的历史因素,以往水货集中的香港上水,药房生意江河日下。"以前内地人来买奶粉,一次七八罐,只问有没有货,价格多少不在意。现在每人只带两罐。以往最多日卖100多罐,现只能日卖40罐左右。"上水龙琛路恒运药房负责人彭氏夫妇有点无奈,港府新政策让奶粉生意大跌九成,"打击水货客我们没意见,现在就连自由行旅客都一起误伤。"夫妻俩透露,现在药房囤积大量奶粉,担心未来经营情况。
No ZhongYingJie advantageous historical factors,Previous gray water concentration of Hong Kong,The pharmacy business is declining."Before mainlanders to buy milk powder,A seven or eight cans,Just ask if there is any cargo,How much the price don't care.Now with only two cans of each.Before the days sold more than 100 cans,We can only sell 40 days around the tank."Hoses on the processing way HengYun pharmacy head pangs' a bit helpless,The Hong Kong government new policy let the milk powder business fell ninety percent,"Against gray guest we have no opinion,Now even the free line passengers were injured."The couple said,Pharmacy hoarding a large number of milk powder now,Worry about the future business.
由于奶粉销量萎缩引发的连锁效应,前来药房的内地客首要目标就是奶粉,然后随带采购其他婴儿用品或日用品。自从限购令推出后,药房每日客流量少了50至60人。除奶粉外,连带其他儿童产品如钙糖、鱼肝油等销情亦受影响
Because of the milk powder sales atrophy caused knock-on effect,To come to the pharmacy mainland customer first aim is to milk powder,Then comes with purchasing the other baby products or commodities.Since the restrictions on launch,The pharmacy daily passenger volume 50 to 60 people.In addition to the milk powder,Calcium and other children's products such as sugar/Cod liver oil and other sales are also affected
香港从去年圣诞节后,奶粉荒开始蔓延,直到1月份达到高峰,香港消委会1月收到了101宗涉及婴儿奶粉的投诉个案,数量接近去年全年(105宗)的总数。对于港府来说,限带令的出台,确实可谓达到了预期的效果。在零售的供应层面,港府已没有再收到缺货或投诉的情况。而港府为港妈港爸设定的奶粉预订热线,从春节至今的120宗订购,跌至新政策出台4天以来的十几宗。
Hong Kong since last Christmas,Milk powder waste began to spread,Until it reaches its peak in January,Council of Hong Kong in January received 101 complaints involving the baby milk powder,Almost all of last year(105 cases of)The total number of.For the government,With limit,Indeed has the desired effect.In the supply of retail level,The Hong Kong government have never received complaints of out of stock or situation.And the Hong Kong government for Hong Kong mom dad powder booking hotline,Since the Spring Festival of 120 cases of placing an order,Fell to a new policy since more than ten cases of 4 days.
毒奶粉的逼迫 Tainted milk powder of persecution
"赴港买奶粉"热潮从2008年"三鹿"问题牛奶事件之后开始,深港边境口岸开始出现大批"奶粉团"。据透露,香港2012年进口的4000万公斤奶粉,大约有2300万公斤是购买后被带离香港。
"To Hong Kong to buy milk powder"Boom from 2008"sanlu"Problem milk after start,Hong Kong began to appear a large number of frontier ports"Milk powder group".It was revealed,Hong Kong's imports in 2012 40 million kg milk powder,There are about 23 million kg is to buy after being out of Hong Kong.
近年来,内地居民赴港买奶粉持续升温。细究起来,"赴港买奶粉"的热潮应是从2008年"三鹿"问题牛奶事件之后开始的。今年全国两会上,多名人大代表提出,自从"三鹿"问题牛奶事件后,消费者对内地奶业的信任度降到最低。虽然国家进一步完善了法规,加强了监管,明确了相关涉及部门的职能,但一些消费者还是选择从香港等海外市场代购奶粉。
In recent years,Mainland residents to Hong Kong to buy milk powder is on the rise.On closer inspection,"To Hong Kong to buy milk powder"The boom from 2008"sanlu"Problems began when the milk incident.National two sessions this year,Many NPC delegates,Since the"sanlu"The problem of milk incident,Consumer trust of mainland dairy to a minimum.Although the nation to further perfect the laws and regulations,Strengthen the supervision of the,Clear the function of the involved departments,But some consumers or to act as purchasing agency milk powder from Hong Kong and other overseas markets.
2008年,内地爆发"三鹿"问题奶粉事件,事件波及香港。当年9月,港府紧急立法,禁止食品中含过量的三聚氰胺。香港制定的标准比国际标准也要严格。
In 2008,,outbreak"sanlu"Question powdered milk event,Events spread to Hong Kong.That year in September,The Hong Kong government emergency legislation,Banned in food containing excessive amounts of melamine.Hong Kong standards is strict than international standards.
同是当年,深港边境口岸开始出现大批"奶粉团",她们或乘专车赴港,目标只有一个———奶粉。在返程时,她们每人会拖回8-12罐甚至更多的奶粉,"拖粉族"一词应运而生。也是从此时开始,香港的奶粉零售商开始推行"限购"政策,每人每次只能购买1-2罐奶粉。为稳定市场,时任香港食物及卫生局局长周一岳打保票说:"如有需要,进口商可即时由欧洲空运奶粉到本港。"
With is that,Hong Kong began to appear a large number of frontier ports"Milk powder group",Them or take a car in Hong Kong,There is only one goal - - milk powder.At the time of return,Each of them will be back to 8-12 cans or more of the milk powder,"Drag the powder group"The term arises at the historic moment.Also start from now,Hong Kong retailers are starting to implement the milk powder"For purchasing"policy,Each person can only buy 1 or 2 cans of milk powder.To stabilize the market,The then director of Hong Kong's secretary for food and health york chow said sure:"In case of need,The importer can instantly by the European milk powder to Hong Kong by air."
究竟有多少奶粉被带离香港?港府提供的一份统计数据发现,自从2007年以来,香港进口的婴儿配方奶粉数量一直增长很快,6年间从2007年的1000多万公斤倍增至2012年的4000万公斤,但与之相比较,同期香港本地的婴儿出生率仅增长了1点几倍。据香港食物及卫生局透露,在进口香港的这4000万公斤奶粉中,在香港本地使用的大约有1500万公斤,另外有大概200万公斤转口到了澳门,也就是说,其余大约有2300万公斤的奶粉是购买后被带离了香港。
How much milk powder was taken from Hong Kong?The government provides a statistics found,Since 2007,Hong Kong import amount of baby formula have been growing fast,Six years from 2007, 1000 more than doubled to 2012 in 40 million kg,But compared with them,Over the same period in Hong Kong baby grew just 1 point several times.According to Hong Kong's secretary for food and health,In the import of this 40 million kg milk powder in Hong Kong,Use locally in Hong Kong there are about 15 million kg,In addition, there are about 2 million kilograms of transit to macau,That is to say,The rest is about 23 million kg of milk powder after the purchase has been away from Hong Kong.
奶粉荒的爆发 The outbreak of the milk powder waste
"为了买罐奶粉,老婆每天中午一下班,饭还来不及吃,就到附近药房问有货没有,但每天回复一样,没货。"香港家长刘伟雄2011年就曾经发帖要求政府征收奶粉离境税。
"In order to buy a can of milk powder,The wife come home from work at noon every day,Rice also had no time to eat,Is not to a nearby pharmacy asked is available,But of the same reply every day,No goods."Hong Kong parents LiuWeiXiong had 2011 posts require the government to levy a tax on milk powder from leaving the country.
"奶粉荒的出现,是由于本地奶粉的安全信誉获得内地市民肯定,再加上香港的奶粉比内地更便宜,自然成为抢购物品,而应运而生的水货客更大批囤积奶粉,让市面的供应量更紧张。"香港立法会议员叶伟明指出。
"The emergence of powdered milk shortage,Is due to the safety of the local milk powder credit for mainland residents,Combined with milk powder in Hong Kong is cheaper than the mainland,Naturally be snapping up items,Which arises at the historic moment of gray guest more large hoard of milk powder,Let the market supply more nervous."Members of the legislative council of Hong Kong Ye Weiming pointed out.
奶粉荒的原因,无论港府还是内地居民,大家或者心知肚明。但奶粉荒的情况,在香港究竟有多严重?早在2011年的1、2月份,当时同样是恰逢春节期间,香港市面上的婴幼儿奶粉就一罐难求。香港父母对于买不到婴幼儿奶粉日渐不满。到了2012年春节前,婴幼儿奶粉的抢购潮再次上演。
Milk powder the cause of the shortage,Whether the government or mainland residents,Or you know.But the milk powder,How serious in Hong Kong?As early as 1 in 2011/In February,At that time was also to coincide with the Spring Festival period,On the market of Hong Kong's infant milk powder is a tank.Hong Kong parents to buy infant milk powder is dissatisfaction.In 2012, before the Spring Festival,A rush of infant milk powder again.
香港消费者委员会指出,单在2011年首两个月已收到51宗涉及奶粉的投诉,当中四成属于奶粉缺货的投诉。此外,接近三成投诉指奶粉价格过高。香港工会联合会当年2月底至3月初在上水和大埔进行了一项调查,发现在受访父母当中,有68.3%表示购买奶粉有困难。他们指出通常要走遍1间至5间店铺才可购得奶粉。
The consumer council of Hong Kong said,In first two months in 2011 have received 51 complaints involving milk powder,Forty percent belong to the powder shortage complaint.In addition,Close to thirty percent complaint refers to milk powder price is too high.Hong Kong federation of trade unions in late February to early march in sheung shui, tai Po, and conducted a survey,Found among the parents questioned,68.3% said buying milk powder is difficult.They point out that usually to travel between one to five stores to buy milk powder.
"为了买罐奶粉,老婆每天中午一下班,饭还来不及吃,就到附近药房问有货没有,但每天回复一样,没货。"刘伟雄每次谈起夫妻俩买奶粉的经历,语气就充满愤慨。香港九龙湾,刘伟雄一家五口居住在典型香港公屋的狭小单位,他与妻子育有三个儿女,最小的儿子今年一岁半,尚未断奶。"我养了三个小孩,但从来没见过奶粉像现在这么难买。"
"In order to buy a can of milk powder,The wife come home from work at noon every day,Rice also had no time to eat,Is not to a nearby pharmacy asked is available,But of the same reply every day,No goods."LiuWeiXiong every time talked about the experience of the couple to buy milk powder,Tone is full of indignation.Hong Kong Kowloon bay,LiuWeiXiong family of five lives in a typical small unit of public housing in Hong Kong,He and his wife had three children,The youngest son of one and a half this year,Has not been weaned."I have three children,But have never seen like now so difficult to buy milk powder."
2011年1月22日,刘伟雄再也按捺不住内心的愤怒,当晚他在香港最大的母婴论坛"亲子王国"发帖,要求政府开征奶粉离境税。帖子一经公布,不到一周表态支持的回帖已达600多个,"没想到这么多回帖,远远超出我的预料。"
On January 22, 2011,LiuWeiXiong never succumb to the heart of anger,That night he in Hong Kong's largest BBS mother and baby"kingdom"Posting,Asked the government to milk powder departure tax is imposed.Post once released,Less than a week to endorse the reply has amounted to more than 600,"Didn't reply so much,Far beyond my expectation."
一石激起千重浪,"奶粉税"随即引发香港社会热议。有立法会议员发起签名,要求开征奶粉税保障香港婴儿奶粉供应,香港消委会认为征税事宜需慎重,首要任务在于协调厂商保供应。港府态度暧昧,称征税势必影响香港商品自由港地位,甚至触及世贸协议,要小心研究。
Up heavy waves,"Milk powder tax"Debate was sparked in Hong Kong society.Are members of the legislative council launched signature,Milk powder tax requirements guarantee supply of baby milk powder in Hong Kong,The Hong Kong council thinks tax issues need to be careful,Top priority is to coordinate vendor guaranteed supply.The Hong Kong government attitude ambiguous,According to tax free port status is bound to affect Hong Kong goods,Even hit the world trade agreement,Be careful study.
打击水客的行动 Blow water action
深户"一签多行"实施后,大规模的水客和内地居民拖粉,使得奶粉荒愈发严重。2012年9月,香港启动打击水客的"风沙行动",截至今年1月入境处已经拘捕了逾500名水客,其中逾90人被判刑。
Deep households"More than a sign line"After the implementation of the,Mass of water and drag powder mainland residents,Make milk shortage increasingly serious.In September 2012,Hong Kong guest start against water"Sand action",By January this year, immigration has arrested more than 500 water,More than 90 people have been convicted.
水客和内地居民赴港扫粉被港人认为是婴幼儿奶粉缺货的"罪魁祸首",而解决问题要么靠增加供应,要么靠限制需求。尽管港府一再要求奶粉供应商增加供应,确保市场稳定,却没能有效解决奶荒问题,在港人看来,要满足内地如此广大市场的奶粉需求,已经超出了香港可以承受的范围。
Water and mainland residents to Hong Kong to sweep powder by Hong Kong people think the infant milk powder is out of stock"culprit",And solve the problem either by increasing supply,Either by limiting demand.Although the government has repeatedly asked milk powder supplier to increase supplies,To ensure market stability,But failed to effectively solve the problem of shortage of milk,In Hong Kong people view,To meet the demand of the mainland is so big market of milk powder,Is beyond the scope of Hong Kong can withstand.
以由港铁上水站的天桥到上水水货集散中心之一的晋科中心为例,在水客的利益链条中,先是内地客户下单,香港的货主再将货物运存至晋科中心等货仓,每天大批水客进入晋科中心从水客头那里接货,分货装货完毕后水客满载而出,乘搭港铁过关返回内地,如果过程顺利,便可以在深圳交货并领取报酬,而这些水货随后会流向各个港货店,甚至会被放在网店上出售。
To bridge from MTR sheung shui station to sheung shui JinKe center as an example of one of the gray distribution center,Guest is in the interests of the chain in water,First mainland customers place the order,The shipper to transport the goods in Hong Kong warehouse save to JinKe center, etc,Every day large quantities of water from guest enter JinKe center guest head pick up the goods there,Cargo loading after the passenger carrying out water,Take the MTR to pass back to the mainland,If the process goes well,Can be delivered and paid in shenzhen,The gray will then flow to each port of goods shop,Even will be on sale online store.
2009年4月,深户"一签多行"实施后,水客在一天之内多次往返拖货已经成为常态,而大规模的水客和内地居民拖粉,使得香港父母买不到奶粉的情况变得愈发严重,甚至对普通港人的生活造成滋扰。
In April 2009,Deep households"More than a sign line"After the implementation of the,Water guest to drag the goods back and forth many times in one day have become the norm,The mass of water and drag powder mainland residents,Make Hong Kong parents buy milk powder has become increasingly severe,Disturbance to the life even for ordinary Hong Kong people.
"政府一定要做嘢!"渐渐成为了香港爸爸妈妈们的强烈呼声。2012年9月,行政长官梁振英亲自到上水视察水客活动情况,随后正式启动打击水客的"风沙行动",以违反逗留条件为由拘捕内地水客,截至今年1月入境处已经拘捕了逾500名水客,其中逾90人被判刑。港府又将多次往返的怀疑水客列入监察名单,截至目前入境处已经拒绝了逾3000多人入境。港铁从去年10月起限制东铁线乘客不可携带逾32公斤行李入闸,今年2月份又收紧为23公斤并加强检查。
"The government have to do with!"Becoming a strong calls for the parents in Hong Kong.In September 2012,Chief executive Mr Leung in sheung shui to inspect the water activity,Then blow water off the launch"Sand action",Arrest of inland water guest stay in violation of the conditions,By January this year, immigration has arrested more than 500 water,More than 90 people have been convicted.The Hong Kong government will be suspected of water back and forth repeatedly inspection list,Immigration has so far rejected the entry of more than 3000 people.MTR since October of last year limit wire the passenger may not carry more than 32 kg luggage into the east gate,In February and tighten up to 23 kg and strengthening inspection.
28天的速成立法 Quick legislation for 28 days
从宣布策划修订到落成实施仅花费28天,其中还包括了春节假期的时间,港府以惊人办事速度使得奶粉禁带令落地。香港食卫局局长高永文表示此次采取措施,完全是不得已而为之。
From announced completion planning revision to implement only takes 28 days,Including the lunar New Year holiday time,The Hong Kong government astonishing make milk powder with ban things fall to the ground.Hong Kong food health bureau Gao Yongwen said the measures,Is forced to completely.
"香港奶粉荒的情况,确实已不是今年才出现的了,而此次港府采取的措施,完全是不得已的。"香港食物及卫生局长高永文无奈地表示。
"Shortage of milk powder in Hong Kong,Really has not been appeared this year,And the government to take measures,To completely."Hong Kong's secretary for food and health grow yong wen says plaintively.
高永文解释,前几年面对奶粉荒的时候,港府也采取了相应的做法。例如会召集零售商代表和供应商开会讨论,希望能增加供应,确保供应和零售链的完善,前几年问题就得到了缓解,而今年,港府也采取了和往年相同的做法,但情况却并没有得到整体性的改善。反而奶粉荒的情况,从原本仅是靠近边境的香港北区市民难买到奶粉,逐渐蔓延扩展到香港市区,港岛甚至东区都出现了奶粉荒的情况。为确保香港市民的生活需求,港府不得已才推出更严厉的措施。
Gao Yongwen explain,A few years ago faced with shortage of milk powder,The government has taken corresponding practice.For example, will convene a meeting of the retailers and suppliers to discuss,Hope to be able to increase supplies,Ensure the supply and the improvement of the retail chain,A few years ago eased the problem,And this year,The Hong Kong government has also taken is the same as the usual practice,But the situation has not improved integrity of the.Shortage of milk powder instead,From the originally is just near the border of north district of Hong Kong citizens to buy milk powder,Spread gradually extended to the urban areas of Hong Kong,East island even milk powder has appeared in a drought.In order to ensure the needs of Hong Kong citizens,The government had to introduce more draconian measures.
高永文认为,水客是导致此次奶粉荒情况加剧的主要原因。"近年水客活跃的程度是愈发增加的,如果不断有水客大规模地从零售链来抢购奶粉,那么就算是供应商也很难完善和确保供货"。高永文说,这次推行的措施,正是希望能够控制水客的活跃程度,确保本港的供应量,并非针对内地自由行的游客。
Gao Yongwen think,Water is led to the milk powder of the main causes of drought has intensified."Water is increasingly active degree to increase in recent years,If the guest has water from the retail chains to snap up milk powder on a large scale,So even if supplier is difficult to improve and ensure supply".High forever ',The implementation of measures,It is hope to be able to control water activity,Ensure that the local supply,Is not aimed at mainland visitors free line.
但代表零售界的立法会议员方刚则有不同看法。港府不应一味地跟着民意走,而应适当地进行民意的引导。"你去看看那些被抓的水客有多少是内地人?逾六成都是香港人啊。而那些水客多半是用家,‘炒家’并没有多少。"方刚强调水客的行为并不违反香港任何法令,"他们不过是从事一些小型的转手贸易从中赚取差额,很多香港人看到做水客有钱赚,便开始做,这个是很正常的商业行为,香港作为一个自由贸易港更加不应该干预正常的市民贸易行为。"
But on behalf of the legislators, fang of the retail industry has a different view.The government should not blindly follow public opinion,But should be appropriate to guide public opinion."You caught the water to look at the guest how many mainlanders?More than six o chengdu is the people of Hong Kong.Those guests are mostly water with home,‘speculators’And there is not much."Parties are strong water transfer guest behavior does not violate any laws in Hong Kong,"They were engaged in some small switch trade make a difference,See many Hong Kong people do water money,Began to do,This is a very normal business practices,Hong Kong as a free trade port more citizens should not intervene the normal trade practices."
奶粉"限带令"从宣布策划修订到落成实施仅花费28天,其中还包括了春节假期的时间,梁振英领导下的港府以惊人办事速度使得奶粉禁带令落地。立法会议员方刚看来,港府此举是想暂时缓和香港市民的怨气,同时也可以为现届港府赢得较高的民望。"此次的奶粉事件我觉得梁振英政府应该和奶粉供应商商讨解决。政府不应该通过立法参与到市场经济活动中去,而是通过协商提高奶粉供应量,保证奶粉供应链的正常。"
Milk powder"With limit"From announced completion planning revision to implement only takes 28 days,Including the lunar New Year holiday time,Mr Leung, under the leadership of the government at an alarming speed make milk powder with ban fall to the ground.Legislators, fang seems,The government's move is to want to temporarily ease her Hong Kong citizens,At the same time can also be for the now the Hong Kong government has won high popularity."The milk powder event I think Mr Leung government should and milk powder supplier to discuss solution.The government should not be involved in the market economic activities through legislation,But through consultation to improve milk supply,Ensure the normal order of the milk powder in the supply chain."
香港真的缺奶粉? Hong Kong really lack of milk powder?
"其实香港真正缺货的奶粉就两个,美赞臣和美素佳儿。奶粉商是不是缺货谁也不知道,只不过那些供货商觉得奇货可居罢了。"香港港九药房总商会主席刘爱国认为奶粉供货商囤货抬价。
"Hong Kong really shortage of milk powder is actually two of them,Mead Johnson and good son.Milk powder manufacturer who is out of stock and I don't know,Only those suppliers feel too great."Hong Kong and Kowloon pharmacy LiuAiGuo, chairman of the chamber of commerce think milk powder supplier stock up bounty.
奶粉禁带令实施近一周,引发了两地网民和相关社会舆论的热议,有人质疑到底是否和港府修例的初衷一样,禁令一出香港多方获益。
Milk powder with ban nearly a week,Triggered both users and related public opinion,Some question whether repair the cases of the Hong Kong government and the original intention,Ban a multi-party benefit Hong Kong.
"我觉得政府这次的做法是‘三输’,供货商输,药房、超市输,政府输。"议员方刚认为奶粉限带令并未施惠于港人,不仅使得奶粉零售商的收入降低,还引发了内地民众的不满。"条例实施以来就不断地有药房老板反映奶粉销量大幅下滑,其实香港本地妈妈的需求根本就没有那么大。"
"I think the government is‘Three lose’,Suppliers to lose,The pharmacy/Supermarket to lose,The government lose."Senators fang think milk powder with limit does not benefit Hong Kong,Not only lowered the milk powder retailer's revenue,Has also led to discontent on the mainland."Regulations since there constantly reflect the druggist milk powder sales fell sharply,Actually Hong Kong local mom doesn't have a so big demand."
"其实香港真正缺货的奶粉牌子就两个,美赞臣和美素佳儿,其他奶粉的供应量都是充足的。"香港港九药房总商会主席刘爱国看来,香港的奶粉荒远不及外界宣传的那样严重,"其实只要政府和那些供货商商量好增加供货量一切就都可以解决了。"
"Hong Kong really shortage of milk powder brand is actually two of them,Mead Johnson and good son,Other milk supply is ample."Hong Kong and Kowloon pharmacy LiuAiGuo opinion, chairman of the chamber of commerce,Milk powder in Hong Kong as serious waste far less external propaganda,"In fact as long as the government to increase output to consult with the supplier so that all can be solved."
"他们(奶粉商)只是强调没奶粉,却不肯将货仓门打开给我们看,到底是不是缺货谁也不知道。只不过那些供货商觉得奇货可居罢了,囤积居奇便可以抬高商品的价格,奶粉商便可以从中获利,再加上他们的广告做得大,大家就都去买他们的奶粉,这样的炒作下奶粉自然好卖。"刘爱国说。
"they(Milk powder business)Just no milk powder is emphasized,Refused to open the warehouse door for us,Who also don't know whether out of stock.Only those suppliers feel too great,Hoarding can drive up prices of the goods,Milk powder business can profit from it,Plus they do big advertising,You have to buy their milk powder,Such milk powder under the hype of good sell."LiuAiGuo said.
赴港购物是许多内地人,特别是广东居民乐意而为的一件事。港府的奶粉限带令一出,不少内地旅客也担心他们热衷购买的物品,类似于巧克力,纸尿片,益力多等货品被迫步上限带的后尘。香港零售业管理协会主席麦瑞琼在港府宣布修例禁带奶粉当日,便表达了她对香港自由贸易港形象的担忧,"有人担心这次是奶粉,下次会不会是巧克力或是牙膏呢?"
Many mainlanders to Hong Kong shopping is,Especially the guangdong residents willing to for one thing.Milk powder with limit of the government,Many mainland tourists are also worried that their enthusiastic to purchase the item,Similar to the chocolate,diaper,Yakult products such as step forced to limit belt's fate.Hong Kong retail management association President MaiRuiQiong LiJin in the Hong Kong government announced with milk that day,He expressed her worries about image of Hong Kong's free trade port,"Some worry that this is milk powder,Next time be chocolate or toothpaste?"
面对两地各界的争论和热议,高永文承认"这对我是一个沉重的压力",但站在香港政府的立场,确保香港市民生活的基本需求是港府的责任,"婴幼儿配方奶粉对于一部分家庭来说是宝宝的主粮,是生活必需品",高永文认为,面临这样的境况,港府只能采取一些"不得已"的措施,至于"香港自由贸易港"声誉影响的担忧,他相信国际社会应该能够明白和理解这样的做法。同时,港府也一再强调,希望内地民众能够谅解,此次限带令的出台并非针对内地自由行的游客。
In the face of the from all walks of life both debate and discussion,Gao Yongwen admitted"This is a heavy pressure for me",But standing in the position of the government of Hong Kong,Ensure that Hong Kong citizens the basic needs of life is the responsibility of the government,"Baby infant formula for part of the family is the staple food,Is life necessities",Gao Yongwen think,Facing such a situation,The government can take some"forced"The measures,As for"Hong Kong's free trade port"Reputation effects of concern,He believes that the international community should be able to see and understand it.At the same time,The Hong Kong government also emphasized again and again,Hope that mainland people can understand,The band limited to come on stage is not aimed at the mainland free lines of tourists.
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据香港特区政府新闻处10日的消息,香港入境事务处和警务处当日在一项行动中拘捕51名涉嫌非法从事水货活动而违反逗留条件的内地旅客,检获大量小食品、纸尿片及奶粉等。
According to the Hong Kong SAR government isd 10,The Hong Kong immigration department and police arrested in an operation that day 51 suspected illegal engaged in gray and mainland passengers stay in violation of the conditions,Seized a large number of small food/Paper diapers, milk powder, etc.
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