专访全国政协委员、国家旅游局局长邵琪伟 An interview with the CPPCC national committee/Shao Qiwei, chief of the national tourism administration

　　中国网3月13日讯 “发展旅游休闲关乎民生福祉。”两会期间，全国政协委员、国家旅游局局长邵琪伟就《国民旅游休闲纲要》出台的意义、下一步如何推动落实以及过去五年旅游业发展等问题接受了人民画报记者专访。

China on March 13 "In developing its tourism and leisure is about people's livelihood welfare."During the two sessions,The CPPCC national committee/China national tourism administration bureau chief Shao Qiwei is[The national tourism and leisure programs]The meaning of a/Next step how to facilitate implementation and tourism development in the past five years accepted the people's pictorial reporter interview.

　　人民画报：《国民旅游休闲纲要》出台，各界持续热议。您认为为何大家关注纲要？纲要出台能给百姓生活带来什么？

People's pictorial:[The national tourism and leisure programs]a,From all walks of life continue to debate.Why do you think attention an outline?Outline a can bring to the people life?

邵琪伟： Shao Qiwei:

　　旅游、休闲是一种生活状态、生活方式，二者都是人们利用闲暇时间从事的以愉悦身心为目的的体验性活动。不同之处在于，休闲较旅游活动的外延更宽，观光度假是休闲，康体娱乐是休闲，读书看报也可以是休闲，休闲包含了旅游，而旅游则是一种异地的休闲。从概念上可以看出，旅游休闲关乎人的身心健康和生活质量，关乎人的幸福与和谐，与百姓生活息息相关，自然会引发高度关注。

tourism/Leisure is a state of life/Way of life,Both are people use leisure time for pleasure, for the purpose of experiential activities.The difference is,Leisure is the extension of tourism activities are more wide,Tourist resort is leisure,Sports entertainment is leisure,Reading books and newspapers can be casual,Contains the tourism leisure,Leisure and tourism is a kind of long distance.You can see from the concept,Leisure travel is about people's physical and mental health and quality of life,About people's happiness and harmony,Is closely related to the people life,Will naturally cause high attention.

　　我们国家正处在转型期，人们工作和生活节奏普遍加快，相当多的人群承受较大的工作压力，亚健康问题受到越来越多的关注。我注意到这样一组数据：目前我国亚健康人群约7亿左右，慢性病患者达2.6亿，其中高血压约2亿人，糖尿病人约2300万，我国用于治疗慢性病费用相当于GDP的8%。此外，我国精神卫生类患者约1600万，受到情绪障碍和行为问题困扰的17岁以下儿童和青少年约3000万。这一现象提醒我们，在经济快速转型期，科学处理工作与生活的节奏，确保人们身心健康与生活幸福已成为不容回避的社会问题。

Our country is in transition,Work and life rhythm to speed up widely,Quite a few people work under high pressure,Sub-health has received more and more attention.I noticed that a set of data:At present our country the healthy population of about 700 million or so,Of 260 million patients with chronic diseases,About 200 million people with hypertension,Diabetes patients of about 23 million,Used in the treatment of chronic diseases fee equal to 8% of GDP in our country.In addition,About 16 million patients with mental health class in our country,Mood disorders and behavior problems of children and teenagers under the age of 17 30 million.This phenomenon reminds us,In the rapid economic transition,Science dealing with the rhythm of work and life,Ensure that people's physical and mental health and happiness life has become an unavoidable social problem.

　　正是从关注国民生活方式和生活质量、满足人们旅游休闲需求出发，同时顺应大众旅游休闲时代的到来，国务院批准发布了《国民旅游休闲纲要》，首次从国家层面对全民的健康生活做出指导和规划。应该说，《纲要》的颁布施行，是国家发展理念的一个重大突破，即由过去一直强调的以“国计”为重转向更加关注人的需求、人的生活质量，更加关注“民生”；由过去的工作第一，生活休闲其次转为工作与休闲并重、会工作也会休闲。这既是对人的基本权利的尊重，也充分彰显了科学发展观“以人为本”的理念。

It is attention from the national way of life and quality of life/Meet the demand of people leisure travel,At the same time keep up with the arrival of the era of mass tourism and leisure,The approval of the state council has released[The national tourism and leisure programs],From the national level for the first time make guidance for national health life and planning.It should be said,[outline]The adoption of,Is an important breakthrough in the concept of national development,Has been emphasized by the past"The meter"We turned to pay more attention to the needs of the people/People's quality of life,Pay more attention to"The livelihood of the people";From the past work first,Leisure life second to work and leisure/, you can work and leisure.This is a respect for basic human rights,Also fully demonstrated the concept of scientific development"With the person this"The idea of.

　　于百姓而言，旅游休闲本身是为了使生活向更愉快的方向发展。《纲要》的出台顺应了百姓追求幸福生活的要求和期待。通过积极引导树立健康、文明、环保的休闲理念，有利于改变千百年来国民重工作、轻生活，重生产、轻消费的理念，建立起现代、科学的生活方式；通过创造开展旅游休闲活动的便利条件，有利于让更多的国民投身旅游休闲，并通过休闲活动追求内心的宁静和现实，在休闲过程中获得心理和精神上的愉悦，进而提高个人和家庭的幸福指数，推动人与经济社会全面、协调、可持续的发展。因此说，编制出台《纲要》，不只是为产业化服务，而主要是为广大民众服务，最终目的是为了让百姓受益，让广大人民群众共同分享改革开放经济社会发展的成果。

For the people,Tourism and leisure itself is to make life more pleasant.[outline]Complied with the people in the pursuit of happiness life of the requirements and expectations.By actively guide to set up healthy/civilization/Environmental protection concept of leisure,To change in one thousand to the national heavy work/Light life,Heavy production/Light consumption concept,Set up the modern/Scientific way of life;By creating favorable conditions to develop tourism and leisure activities,To let more people working in tourism and leisure,And through leisure activities the pursuit of peace of mind and reality,In the process of leisure access to psychological and spiritual enlightenment,To improve personal and family happiness,Promote human and economic and social comprehensive/To coordinate/The development of sustainable.So said,Prepare a[outline],Not only for industrialization service,And mainly service for the general public,Ultimately the purpose is to benefit the people,Let the people share the achievements of economic and social development of the reform and opening up.

　　人民画报：您认为推动纲要落实要重点解决哪几个问题？怎样落实好大家关心的“带薪休假”？

People's pictorial:What do you think you focus a driving program to carry out the solution to which a few problems?How to well implement everybody care about"Paid vacation"?

邵琪伟 Shao Qiwei

　　《纲要》以满足人民群众日益增长的旅游休闲需求为出发点和落脚点，重点明确了五个方面的任务，推动《纲要》落实，重点要抓的也是这五个方面的工作，即树立正确旅游休闲观念、保障旅游休闲时间、丰富旅游休闲产品、完善旅游休闲公共服务、降低旅游休闲消费门槛。用通俗的话说就是要解决好该不该旅游休闲、有没有时间旅游休闲、能不能旅游休闲得好等问题。

[outline]In order to satisfy people's growing demand for tourism and leisure as the starting point and the foothold,Emphasis has been clear about the five aspects of the task,To promote[outline]Implementation of the,The key to grasp is the five aspects of the work,That is correct tourism leisure concept/Tourism and leisure time/Rich tourism and leisure products/Improve the tourism and leisure services/Reduce the threshold of tourism and leisure consumption.In the words of pop is should to solve good tourism and leisure/Do you have time to tourism and leisure/Can you travel leisure such problems as well.

　　长期以来，相当一部分国人认为旅游休闲是不思进取，习惯于把休闲与进步、休闲与发展、休闲与生产对立起来。实际上，健康的旅游休闲是人生的重要组成部分，旅游休闲能够促进健康、增长知识、引发创造，会休息才会工作，会休息才会成功。纲要的出台事实上也为旅游休闲正了名。目前，休闲观念尚未深入大众文化，这也是带薪休假制度落实不好的一个重要原因。因此，推动纲要落实重点之一就是要广泛宣传，使健康、文明、环保的旅游休闲理念和保障广大人民群众休假休闲权利的观念深入人心，营造关心支持旅游休闲发展的社会环境和舆论氛围。

For a long time,Quite a number of people think tourism and leisure is adventurous,Accustomed to leisure and progress/Leisure and development/Leisure and production.In fact,Health tourism and leisure is an important part of life,Tourism and leisure can promote health/Growth of knowledge/Cause to create,Will rest will work,Will rest will succeed.An outline of the in fact also for tourism and leisure are the name.At present,Leisure concept has yet to mass culture deeply,This is paid vacation system to carry out the bad one important reason.so,Promote an outline to implement one of the key is to widely publicized,Make health/civilization/Green tourism and leisure concept and protect the rights of the people leave the leisure concept of thorough popular feeling,Create a concern and support social environment for the development of tourism and leisure and public opinion atmosphere.

　　《纲要》公布后引发社会广泛关注，特别对“到2020年，职工带薪年休假制度基本得到落实”这一目标，有许多评论。我想是否应该这样理解，出台纲要的目的之一就是要推动带薪年休假制度得到落实。全面落实职工带薪年休假制度是满足居民旅游需求、分散出游时间、保障旅游服务质量的有效途径。国务院公布带薪年休假制度五年来，落实情况逐年改善。但由于这项制度刚建立不久，全面落实还需要一定时间。从国际上看，自法国1936年首次建立带薪年休假制度到上世纪70年代全面落实，历时数十年。随着我国经济社会进一步发展，在全社会的共同努力下，职工带薪年休假将会逐步得到全面落实。

[outline]After the trigger social broad attention,Especially for"By 2020,The worker basic implemented system of annual vacation with pay"This goal,There are a lot of comments.I should want to understand it,Introduced an outline of one of the purposes is to promote implementation of the system of annual vacation with pay.The full implementation of the worker system of annual vacation with pay is to meet residents' travel demand/Dispersed to travel time/Effective way to safeguard the quality of tourism services.Under the state council published five years system of annual vacation with pay,To carry out the situation to improve year by year.But because the system is just set up soon,Full implementation of also need certain time.From the international point of view,From France to establish system of annual vacation with pay for the first time in 1936 to the full implementation of the 1970 s,For dozens of years.With the further development of our country's economy and society,Under the joint efforts of the whole society,The worker paid annual leave will be fully implemented step by step.

　　除了普及休闲意识、保障休闲时间，加大旅游休闲产品供给、降低旅游休闲费用、完善休闲公共服务、提升服务质量等多个方面也是我们工作着力的重点领域。要通过加快改造和提升国民休闲的基础设施和条件，降低旅游休闲的成本，使全民的旅游休闲更加便利和优惠，全面满足不同年龄、不同地域、不同收入阶层最广大人民群众的旅游休闲需求，真正实现中国休闲的普遍化、休闲权利的均等化、休闲推进的一体化，体现《纲要》的全民性、全国性特征。

In addition to the popular leisure consciousness/Ensure leisure time,Increased travel leisure products supply/Reduce the leisure travel expenses/Perfect leisure public services/Improve service quality and so on several aspects and focus on the key areas of our work.To speed up reform and promote the foundation of the national leisure facilities and conditions,Reduce the cost of tourism and leisure,Make a tourism and leisure more convenience and benefits,Fully meet the different ages/Different regions/Different income classes of the widest people leisure travel demand,Achieve the generalization of Chinese leisure/Leisure equal rights/Leisure to promote integration,reflect[outline]The nationwide/National characteristics.

　　此外，在纲要实施中，我们要高度重视发挥地方的能动性和创造性。近年来，广东、山东、浙江等省市先行先试，陆续推出一系列引导和支持本地居民旅游休闲的政策措施，积累了宝贵的经验。《纲要》发布后，相信会有更多的省区市积极行动起来，根据当地实际和特点，制定并推出具体安排和措施，从而推动《纲要》的具体落实。

In addition,In the program implementation,We should attach great importance to the local initiative and creativity into full play.In recent years,guangdong/shandong/Zhejiang province first try first,Launch a series of policy measures to guide and support local residents tourism and leisure,Accumulated valuable experience.[outline]After the release of,Believe that there will be more provinces into action,According to the local actual and characteristics,Develop and launch a specific arrangement and measures,So as to promote[outline]The actual implementation.

　　人民画报：温总理在2013年政府工作报告中总结过去五年工作时指出，“旅游、文化消费大幅增长”。您认为过去五年旅游业主要取得了哪些发展成就?

People's pictorial:Premier wen jiabao in his government work report in 2013 summed up over the past five years, points out that while working,"tourism/Cultural consumption increased significantly".What do you think what kind of development achievements have been made over the past five years, the tourism major?

邵琪伟 Shao Qiwei

　　过去五年，我们紧紧围绕科学发展的主题和转变发展方式的主线，不断深化改革开放，不断推动旅游业创新发展，旅游业已经进入到大众化、产业化发展的新阶段，已经成为我国调整优化国民经济结构、促进发展方式转变、推动区域协调发展、改善人民生活的重要力量。

Over the past five years,We closely around the theme of the scientific development and transformation of the mode of development of the main line,The deepening of reform and opening up,Constantly pushing forward the innovation of tourism development,Tourism industry has entered the popular/A new stage of industrialization,Has become China's national economy structure adjustment optimization/Promoting development mode change/Promote balanced development among regions/Important force in the improvement of people's life.

　　五年来，我国旅游业妥善应对了一系列矛盾和困难，办成了一系列大事。国务院推动出台了《关于加快发展旅游业的意见》，明确提出了旅游业发展两大战略目标，旅游业发展纳入国家战略层面；推动旅游立法工作实现了重大进展，全国人大常委会两次审议旅游法草案并听取了国务院关于旅游工作的报告；推动开放大陆居民赴台旅游，两岸首次互设常设旅游办事机构；国务院决定设立“中国旅游日”，《国民旅游休闲纲要》也已经由国务院办公厅正式颁布；推动中文成为世界旅游组织官方语言，出境旅游对全球旅游市场贡献率达8%左右，148个国家和地区成为中国公民出境旅游目的地；推动形成各个层面支持发展旅游业的良好局面，全国有26个省区市将旅游业定位为支柱产业，其中17个定位为战略性支柱产业，国家旅游局与24个省区市、15个部门构建了合力发展旅游业的机制与平台。

Over the past five years,To properly deal with a series of contradictions and difficulties of tourism,Make a series of events.Push out of the state council[Opinions about accelerate the development of tourism],Two major strategic objectives explicitly put forward the tourism development,Tourism development into the national strategic level;Promote tourism legislative work achieved significant progress,The standing committee of the National People's Congress two review draft proposals and listened to the report about tourism work under the state council;Push open the mainland residents to Taiwan tourism,Each set for the first time standing on both sides of the Taiwan travel agencies;The state council decided to set up"China tourism day",[The national tourism and leisure programs]Have also been formulated by the state council general office issued formally;Promote Chinese become the world tourism organization's official language,Outbound tourism has contributed about 8% to global travel market,148 countries and regions to become Chinese citizens outbound tourism destination;Promote form all levels to support development the good situation of tourism industry,There are 26 provinces across the country tourism may be defined as a pillar industry,Among them 17 as a strategic pillar industry,The national tourism administration and 24 provinces/15 departments construct the development platform and the mechanism of tourism together.

　　此外，在一系列考验和挑战面前，旅游行业也交出了合格的答卷。比如，我们圆满完成了北京奥运、上海世博旅游工作，实现北京奥运会旅游服务零投诉、上海世博会旅游团队安全和服务质量零责任事故。“5.12”汶川特大地震灾害发生后，全国旅游战线全力救助和安全疏散了5万多名海内外游客，其中团队游客1.11万人，同时积极推动旅游业成为灾后重建的先导产业。这些不平凡的经历都值得全行业认真总结和铭记。

In addition,In a series of trials and challenges,Tourism industry is also handed over qualified.Such as the,We successfully completed the Beijing Olympic Games/Shanghai world expo tourism,Beijing Olympic Games tourism service zero complaint/The Shanghai world expo tourism team safety and service quality zero liability accident."5.12"After the wenchuan earthquake disaster,National tourism front to rescue and safety evacuation of more than 50000 tourists from home and abroad,Including 11100 people in the team of tourists,At the same time actively promoting tourism become the forerunner industry reconstruction.These are extraordinary experience worthy of the industry seriously sum up and remember.

　　人民画报：现在很多人喜欢用“大”形容某个概念，也有“大旅游”的说法。您心目中真正意义上的“大旅游”是怎样的？

People's pictorial:Now many people like to use"big"Describe a concept,There are"Big tourism"The statement.In the true sense of your mind"Big tourism"What is the?

邵琪伟 Shao Qiwei

　　“大旅游”很难用一句两句话概括。我们可以从10年来中国旅游业发展一些“大变化”，来看“大旅游”所呈现的格局。

"Big tourism"It is hard to sum up in one of two words.Can we learn from some of China's tourism development for the past ten years"Big change",Come to see"Big tourism"The pattern of the present.

　　比如，我国从旅游资源大国发展成为世界旅游大国。10年来，我国入境旅游规模在世界的排名从第5升至第3，出境旅游目的地国家和地区从2001年的18个增至目前的148个，我国已成为世界第三大出境旅游消费国，并形成了全球最大的国内旅游市场。

Such as the,Become a world tourism power from a big tourist resources development in our country.In ten years,China's inbound tourism scale from 5 to 3 in the world rankings,Outbound tourism destination country and the area in 2001 from 18 to 148 at present,Our country has become the world's third largest outbound tourism consumer,And formed the world's largest domestic tourism market.

　　比如，我国旅游业从单一产业形态向与一二三产业融合的综合产业方向发展转变。旅游业由单一产业形态向产业融合转化，横向、纵向合作力度进一步增强，旅游与农业为代表的第一产业，与装备制造业为代表的第二产业，与金融、文化、信息、交通为代表的第三产业全面融合，带动促进了相关产业的发展，旅游业发展的领域进一步扩大，已全面融入经济社会发展各个领域。

Such as the,China's tourism industry from a single industry to the fusion with the 123 industry comprehensive industry direction change.By a single industry to the tourism industry transformation,transverse/Longitudinal strength to further strengthen cooperation,Tourism and agriculture as a representative of the first industry,And the equipment manufacturing industry as a representative of the second industry,With the financial/culture/information/Traffic as a representative of the third industry comprehensive fusion,In promoting the development of relevant industries,To further expand tourism development areas,Has been fully integrated into the economic and social development in various fields.

　　概而言之，旅游已从少数人的享受向大众化方向发展；旅游投资向主体多元化、投资多样化方向发展；旅游市场主体日益多元化，竞争力不断提升，产业化特征更加明显；旅游业与信息技术的结合愈发紧密，信息化正助力旅游业从传统服务业向现代服务业迈进；旅游市场开放度越来越高，跨国界、跨地区的交流交往日益频繁，这些都体现了“大旅游”发展的趋势。

In generalizing,Tourism has grown from a few to enjoy to the popular direction;Diversification of investment to the tourism/Develop in the direction of diversification;Tourism market main body is becoming more and more diversified,Improve competitiveness,Industrialization features more obvious;The combination of tourism industry and information technology increasingly close,Informationization is helping the tourism service industry from the traditional to the modern service industry;Tourism market openness is higher and higher,Across national borders/Communication increasingly frequent exchanges across the region,These are reflected"Big tourism"The development trend of.

　　《国务院关于加快发展旅游业的意见》明确提出，要把旅游业培育成为国民经济战略性支柱产业和人民群众更加满意的现代服务业。实现“两大战略目标”、建成世界旅游强国，实际上勾勒出了“大旅游”发展的宏伟蓝图。实现上述目标，需要我们研究和把握旅游业发展的内在规律，遵循全行业业已形成的通过推进旅游业与一二三产业融合发展培育战略性支柱产业、通过信息化带动旅游业转变为现代服务业的基本思路，坚持旅游业作为经济产业的基本属性，坚定不移地走市场化产业化道路，同时继续巩固国内旅游在三大旅游市场中的基础性地位，积极发展入境旅游，有序发展出境旅游，进一步发挥好旅游业的社会功能，服务于民，造福于民，最终实现旅游业新的跨越。

[Under the state council about accelerate the development of tourism]Clearly put forward,To develop tourism into a strategic pillar industry of national economy and the modern service industry of the people more satisfied.To achieve"Two major strategic objectives"/The world tourism power,Actually outlined"Big tourism"Development blueprint.Achieve these goals,We need to study and grasp the inherent law of tourism development,Follow the industry already formed by advancing tourism with the 123 industrial convergence development to foster strategic pillar industry/Through informationization promoting tourism into the basic ideas of modern service industry,Adhere to the basic attributes of tourism as an economic industry,Unswervingly market-oriented industrialization road,At the same time continue to consolidate the fundamental status in domestic tourism in the three major tourism markets,Positive development of inbound tourism,Orderly development of outbound tourism,The social function of tourism play a good further,In the service of the people,Benefit the people,Finally to realize the new span. Tourism industry.

　　党的十八大报告提出，确保到2020年全面实现建成小康社会的目标。展望未来，如果更多的人都能尽情地参与旅游休闲，如果更多的人都能便利地享受高品质的旅游休闲，我想，这就是真正意义上的“大旅游”格局，也是全体中国人心中的“旅游强国梦”。（文字：人民画报记者 王烁；摄影：人民画报 段崴）

The eighteenth big report,Ensure implementation to build a well-off society in an all-round way by 2020 goals.Looking to the future,If more people can participate in the tourism and leisure,If more people can easily enjoy the high quality tourism and leisure,I want to,This is in the true sense"Big tourism"pattern,Is the heart of all Chinese"Great tourism power dream".(words:People's pictorial reporter wang shuo;photography:People's pictorial Duan Wai)

　　《人民画报》供稿 (来源：中国网)

[People's pictorial]feeds (source:Chinese netizens)