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旅客提前购火车票无票 开车前12306现上千余票--亲稳网络舆情监测室
2013-01-30

  龙虎网讯 卡着预售期去买南京武汉的火车票车票20秒内就被抢光,求爷爷告奶奶,终于高价从黄牛手里买了张车票,却在开车前一天发现12306网站上突然放出大量余票。既然有大量余票,铁路部门为何握在手里不放车票的放票时间不是统一提前20天吗难道还有其他的放票时间记者调查得知,这其实与铁路部门实行的“席位复用”有关,也与各铁路局之间的利益博弈挂钩。但不论如何,受到“伤害”的不应该是旅客。旅客们也呼吁铁路部门偷偷摸摸放票有失公平,希望铁路部门能够公开始发站共用车票时的放票时间。扬子晚报记者 宋南飞

Longhu webex card to open to booking period to buy nanjing to wuhan train ticket,Ticket twenty seconds was gone,For grandpa tell grandma,Finally from cattle high hand bought tickets,But in the day before driving found 12306 web site suddenly released more than a lot of votes.Now that there is a lot more votes,The railway departments in the hands grip the why not put ticket put ticket time is not unified early twenty days? Is there any other put ticket time reporter survey know,It and the railway departments implement"Seat reuse"relevant,Also with the railway station in the interests of the game between the hook.But no matter how to,is"damage"Should not be passenger.Passengers also called on the railway departments covertly put ticket is unfair,Hope the railway departments can share the public starting station ticket put ticket time.Yangzi evening news reporter SongNaFei

  

旅客吐槽 Passenger vomit tank

  “早起的鸟儿没虫吃” "The early bird gets the worm didn't"

  提前20天没买到票,开车前却冒出大量余票

Early twenty days didn't buy a ticket,But before driving out more than a lot of votes

  “铁道部规定,车票的预售期是提前20天。”市民李先生说,他提前20天在12306网站上购买2月8日(除夕前一天)南京到武汉的火车票,结果在12306网站刷了半小时,到了放票时间,20秒内所有车票都显示“无票”。无奈之下,他拨打了黄牛的电话,黄牛告诉他,开车前一天一定会帮他“搞定”。

"The ministry of railways provisions,Ticket pre-sale period is twenty days in advance."Citizens Mr Lee said,His early twenty days in 12306 site for 2 August(The day before the New Year's eve)Nanjing train ticket to wuhan,Results in 12306 website brush for half an hour,To put the ticket time,Twenty seconds all tickets are displayed"No ticket".Helpless under,He dialed the telephone cattle,Cattle told him,The drive will help him"get".

  “他说他认识铁路内部的人,一定能帮我搞定。”李先生说。但在随后的几天内,李先生却发现了一个奇怪的现象:每天下午6点,12306网站都会放出第二天南京-武汉部分动车的大量余票,总数高达数千张!“我就估计这个黄牛也不是认识什么人,而是知道这个放票规律!”发现这个现象后,李先生非常生气:“我们老老实实按照预售期排队买票的人,买不到票,反而给投机取巧的人制造了机会!太不公平!”

"He said he knew the railway insider,Must be able to help me get."Mr Lee said.But in the later days,Mr. Li is discovered a strange phenomenon:At 6 p.m. every day,12306 we will release the second day nanjing - wuhan part moving car more than a lot of votes,Total up to thousands of zhang!"I will estimate the cattle also not know what person,But know this put ticket rules!"After found this phenomenon,Mr. Li is very angry:"We honestly according to open to booking period people lined up to buy tickets,The ticket,But to opportunistic one manufacturing opportunity!It's not fair!"

  的确如此,记者采访了十几位家在武汉的南京白领、学生,他们都不知道到武汉的车票还有这样的放票规律。“我每次都是买上海到武汉的车票,在南京上车,多花好多钱!”“太过分了,我们卡着预售期,在网上苦苦守了3天,才刷到一张票,有些知道内情的人连队都不用插,就能买到票!”真是早起的“鸟儿”没虫吃,有些人却得来全不费功夫。大家都觉得这样的放票方式很不公平。

indeed,The reporter interviewed dozens of nanjing white-collar home in wuhan/students,They don't know to wuhan ticket and such put ticket rules."Every time I is to buy Shanghai to wuhan ticket,In nanjing on,Spend a lot of money!""Too much,We card to open to booking period,On the net to keep struggling for three days,Just brush to a ticket,Some insiders company all need not inserted,You can buy tickets!"Is the early"The birds"Don't bug eat,But some people get whole don't charge kung fu.We all feel this way let tickets is very unfair.

  

记者验证 Reporter verification

  本来没票,突然冒出千张票 Had no ticket,Burst out single ticket

  南京到武汉、九江、北京均存在这种现象 Nanjing to wuhan/jiujiang/Beijing has this kind of phenomenon

  前天和昨天,记者进行了实验,发现李先生说得一点也没错。比如昨天上午记者查询1月28日南京到武汉的车票,只有三趟车还有数百张余票,到了下午六点,D3043和D3047次突然分别放出941张和783张二等座,加上一等座和无坐票,总共放出数千张票额。而前天上午记者查询27日南京-武汉的车票也均存在这样的情况。不仅南京,上海到武汉沿线各站的票额都突然冒出很多。

The day before yesterday and yesterday,The reporters,Find Mr. Li said it exactly.Like yesterday morning reporter inquires, January and nanjing to wuhan ticket,Only three bus and more than hundreds of a ticket,At six o 'clock in the afternoon,D3043 and D3047 time suddenly released respectively 941 and 783 a second class seat,Add a minute seat and sit no tickets,A total of out thousands of zhang face value.And the day before yesterday morning reporter inquires the 27 nanjing - wuhan ticket also has this situation.Nanjing not only,Shanghai to wuhan along the line of every denomination are bursting out a lot.

  南京到北京的T66次也是如此。每天中午12:30-12:40之间,总会多出60几张卧铺票可供市民们抢购。不仅如此,下午6点也成为南京-九江车次的放票节点。记者发现每到开车前一天的下午6点,都会有4张硬卧下铺突然放出来。一位熟知放票时间的“黄牛”告诉记者,这样的放票潜规则已经成了“定式”,很多年没改过了。

Nanjing to Beijing T66 time is also so.The daily noon he now - between,Always more than sixty a few pieces of berth ticket for citizens buying.Not only that,6 PM also become nanjing - the trains jiujiang put ticket node.Reporters found that each to drive the afternoon of the day before 6 o 'clock,There will be four hard sleeper lower suddenly put out.A person familiar with put ticket time"cattle"Told reporters,This put ticket has become a hidden rules"specification",Hadn't changed.

  

■两点疑问 S two questions

  铁路部门为何“藏起”大量车票 Railway departments why"hide"Large ticket

  1、上铁计划室握着大量车票为何不放 1/JiHuaShi feng is the one who holds a large number of ticket, why not put

  记者了解到,车票的放票计划,是上海铁路局计划室统一把握。但为什么他们握着大量车票却不放呢业内人士解释说,这些车票都是原先准备“席位复用”的。所谓“席位复用”,就是说南京-武汉的车,实际是上海始发到武汉的,南京只是个过路站,所以除了分配给南京站的少量票额外,其余的票额都是“复用”出来的。也就是上海的市民买一张“上海-南京”的,才能生成一张“南京-武汉”的车票。这样可以保证坐席利用率。

The reporter understands,Ticket put ticket plan,Shanghai railway bureau is JiHuaShi unified grasp.But why do they hold a large number of ticket but not put it the personage inside course of study to explain,These tickets are ready to the original"Seat reuse"of.The so-called"Seat reuse",That is the nanjing - wuhan car,Shanghai is really starting to wuhan,Nanjing is just a passing station,So in addition to assigned to nanjing station a few additional tickets,The rest of the face value is"reuse"out.Also is the Shanghai citizens buy a"Shanghai - nanjing"of,Can generate a"Nanjing - wuhan"ticket.This can guarantee utilization and reclined at the table.

  所以,在开车前,上海站其实是手握大量还没有被“复用”的票额的。在开车前,上海铁路局会统一在固定的时间点,将还没有卖出去的车票与下面各站共用,供管内所有旅客们购买。不过,并不是所有的车都有席位复用的,这主要看沿线各铁路局的售票系统能否进行席位复用。而且不少普通车,像上海到成都这样的车,在上海站,票额就被用光了,即便有车票复用,前面苏锡常几个站也都会把票额抢光,到了南京根本连票的“渣”都没有。

so,Before driving in,Shanghai is actually hand a lot has not been"reuse"Denomination of the.Before driving in,Shanghai railway bureau will be unified in a fixed point in time,Will have not sell tickets and stood under the share,All the passengers buy for tube.but,Not all cars are seats of reuse,This is mainly to see all along the railway ticketing system for seats can reuse.And many ordinary car,Like Shanghai to chengdu this kind of car,In Shanghai,Face is running out,Even if have a ticket, reuse,See front several station will seize the denomination,The nanjing even ticket"slag"Didn't.

  而南京到九江的车票,是在开车前放出四张预留的残疾人车票。也就是铁路部门预先留了几张残疾人车票,但到了时间没有残疾旅客购买,就会把这几张票改成全价票放给其他旅客购买。

And nanjing to jiujiang ticket,Before driving is released four tickets reserved ticket of the disabled.Also is the railway departments in advance ticket left a few pieces of the disabled,But in the time no disabled passengers to buy,Will this a few tickets into full fare put to other passengers to buy.

  

2、为何放出大量车票的列车都是武汉局负责的 2/Why give off a lot of train tickets are wuhan bureau is responsible for

  记者在试验中也发现一个奇怪的现象,放出的车票的列车都是晚班车。记者查询得知,这两趟放出大量车票的列车,都不是上海铁路局自己负责的,而是武汉局负责的。记者从业内人士处了解到,这可能涉及到各铁路局之间的利益博弈。比如南京到武汉的车,有些是上海局负责的,有些是武汉局。上海铁路局可能是为了保证自己列车的上座率,手里压了一大批武汉局列车车票不卖。等到开车前才把武汉局负责列车的车票放出来。

Reporter in the test also found a strange phenomenon,Out of the train ticket is late bus.Reporters learned that inquires,The two trip to give off a lot of train tickets,Shanghai railway bureau is responsible for yourself,But wuhan bureau is responsible for.Reporters from the personage inside place to know,This may involve to the railway station in the interests of the game between.Such as nanjing to wuhan car,Some are Shanghai bureau is responsible for,Some are wuhan bureau.Shanghai railway administration may be in order to ensure their attendance of the train,Hand pressure a large number of wuhan bureau train ticket doesn't sell.Wait until before driving to wuhan bureau is responsible for the train ticket put out.

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s一个建议 A suggestion

  不能让知道内情的黄牛大捞一笔 后续的放票时间应该公开 Can't let know the ropes of cattle clean up later put ticket time should open

  在采访中,不少旅客都说,铁道部公布的统一售票时间是提前20天,但实际上不少列车都还有这样的“潜规则放票时间”。而这些时间点,是旅客们所不知道的。这势必造成真正想买票的旅客老老实实排队,却不能先到先得,知道内情的“黄牛”却能趁此机会大捞一笔。网友们建议铁路部门不能无视旅客的知情权,应该公布票额共用时的放票时间,届时大家再统一去抢。这样就不会造成“早起的鸟儿没虫吃”的不公局面。

In the interview,Many passengers said,Mor announced the unification of the ticket time is twenty days in advance,But the fact is that many train have such"Latent rules put ticket time".And these time point,Is the passengers do not know.This certainly will cause really want to buy a ticket passenger honest queue,But not first come first served,Know the ropes of the"cattle"But it can take this opportunity to clean up.Net friends suggested the railway departments can't ignore the passenger's right to know,Should disclose in the face of common put ticket time,When we reunify to rob.So it won't cause"The early bird gets the worm didn't"Injustice situation.

  旅客们还认为,为了保证自己列车的上座率固然可以理解,但铁路局之间的博弈不能让旅客成为“牺牲品”。在采访中,不少旅客都因买不到南京-武汉的车票,直接购买上海-武汉的车票,多花不少钱。如果上海铁路局不能做到一开始就票额共用,就最好在12306网站公布沿线各站共用车票的放票时间。

Passengers also thought,In order to guarantee their train attendance is understandable,But the game between railway passenger can't let be"victim".In the interview,Many passengers because of can't buy nanjing - wuhan ticket,Direct purchase Shanghai - wuhan ticket,Spend a lot of money.If Shanghai railway administration can't do a face to share,You'd better in 12306 along the website based on Shared ticket put ticket time.

  此外,要提醒市民的是,上海铁路局或将更改车票的放票时间,也请市民们以实际放票时间为准。

In addition,To remind people is,Shanghai railway bureau or will change the ticket put ticket time,Please also citizens in real put ticket time shall prevail.



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