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2012-07-29

  杜冉乐 每日经济新闻(博客,微博)记者 刘林鹏 发自成都

RanLe du daily economic news(blog,Micro bo)Reporter LiuLinPeng from chengdu

  在逸都国际C组团3期收房之际,贵阳中铁置业却深陷业主维权危机。

Escape in international group C 3 period of the room,Fe home buyers in guiyang but owners' rights crisis。

  近日,《每日经济新闻》记者接到网名为“豹子”并自称为“贵阳中铁逸都国际C组团3期”一业主代表的举报信。信函称,今年6月28日按合同收房后,3期项目的1326名业主却发现,部分楼层的采光已严重受挡,形似“地牢”,F复式户型顶板横梁纵横致其无法装修,每栋楼均有一半房门属于“纸壳门”。此外,中铁置业涉嫌违规收取每户3579元的“三通”费用以及3期项目“32.2%”的公摊系数偏高等。

recently,《Daily economic news》Reporter received net is“A leopard”And call themselves for“Guiyang international group C escape China railway stage 3”A JuBaoXin the owner's representative。Letter says,On June 28 this year, according to the contract behind,3 of the project 1326 owner found,Part of the daylighting of the floor has serious by the block,Similar to“dungeon”,F double entry door model the roof beam and caused the can't decorate,Each building are half the door to belong to“ZhiKe door”。In addition,China railway home buyers suspected illegal collection of $3579 per family“tee”Expenses and 3 of project“32.2%”The pool is too high。

  《每日经济新闻》记者多次致电贵阳中铁置业副总经理王成平和副总经济师何云海,但均无果。之后,公司销售总监周兴春以不确定记者身份为由拒绝受访。

《Daily economic news》The reporter repeatedly call guiyang iron home buyers deputy general manager wang cheng peace deputy chief economist HeYunHai,But without all。after,Company sales director ZhouXingChun to not sure refuse to reporter interviewed。

  全国工商联房地产商会全经联深圳分盟首席法律顾问颜宇丹律师表示,对于公摊部分,目前国内并无明确的法律法规,这是房地产交易中普遍存在的争议焦点。

The national association of industry and commerce real estate chamber of commerce by shenzhen points all united chief legal counsel au YanYuDan lawyer said,For part of the pool,The current domestic and no explicit laws and regulations,This is the real estate transactions generally exists in the disputed points。

 

 “三通”涉嫌违规收费 “tee”Suspected illegal charge

  经多方求证,上述匿名举报者确为贵阳中铁逸都国际C组团3期的一阳姓业主代表。上周六(7月7日)3期业主曾到售楼部就上述问题与中铁谈判,但无结果。负责接待业主投诉的贵阳市金阳新区逸景社区服务中心雷某向《每日经济新闻》记者证实了上述情况。当地电视台也对此做了报道。

The various verification,The anonymous that prosecutors for guiyang international group C escape China railway stage 3 a surname Yang of the owner's representative。On Saturday(July 7)3 of the owner had to sales department above-mentioned problem and iron negotiations,But with no result。Is responsible for the reception owner of guiyang JinYang new complaints from scene community service center to LeiMou《Daily economic news》Reporter confirm the above situation。The local TV station also reported it as。

  《每日经济新闻》记者翻阅一业主的《商品房买卖合同》发现,“附件四:合同补充协议”一页标注有“以上费用 (即煤气开户费:2690元/户、电表开户费:629元/户和有线数字电视初装费:260元/户)均未计入该商品房建造成本”。

《Daily economic news》Reporter leafing through an owner《The contract for the sale of commodity》found,“Accessories four:Contract supplementary agreement”One page mark have“The above fee (Namely gas cost:2690 yuan/door、Electric meter cost:629 yuan/door and cable digital TV ChuZhuangFei:260 yuan/door)Are not counted in the commodity house construction cost”。

  根据举报信,“三通”费用总额是:3579元/户×1326户=474.574万元,而这一点正是业主质疑其不合理的焦点。据一吴姓业主介绍,当时(2011年2月)自己的房子购买价是5220元/,市场价是4000元/左右,已远超了市场价一大截。

According to JuBaoXin,“tee”Total cost is:3579 yuan/door x 1326 households = 4.74574 million yuan,And this is where the owner the unreasonable questions focus。According to a WuXing owner is introduced,At that time(February 2011)His own house purchase price is 5220 yuan /,The market price is 4000 yuan/or so,Already far more than the market price a big chunk。

  贵阳市住房与城乡建设局房地产监管处处长吴素芳告诉记者,这在省(贵州)里是有法规约定的,如果“三通”已包含在房价里面,那开发商再收取就是不应该的。

Guiyang city housing and urban and rural construction bureau real estate regulatory everywhere long WuSuFang told reporters,This in the province(guizhou)Is the rules and regulations of the agreed,if“tee”In house prices has been contained within,The developers to receive is not as it should be。

  此外,《贵州省城市基础设施配套费征收使用管理办法》规定:“任何部门和单位不得再收排水、电、气、热、道路等各项名目的专项配套费。”

In addition,《Guizhou province city supporting facility imposes use management approach》provisions:“Any department or unit shall not accept drainage、electricity、gas、hot、The purpose of the special way methods。”

  颜宇丹律师表示,依据上述法规,开发商已构成违规收费,应给予退还。

YanYuDan lawyer said,Based on the above regulations,Developers have constitute a violation charge,Should give returned。

  阳先生也反映,中铁置业强制收取“三通”费用后未开具发票。业内人士表示,如果此情况属实,中铁置业将涉嫌逃税。

Mr. Yang is also reflected,China railway home buyers mandatory charge“tee”After costs not invoice。People in the industry say,If this is true and correct,China railway home buyers will be suspected of tax evasion。

 

 公摊面积偏高遭质疑 Equally Shared area is on the high side suspect

  公摊面积偏大,是业主们质疑的另外一个焦点。

Equally Shared area slants big,The owners of the question is another focus。

  据了解,逸都国际C组团3期项目均为小户型,其最大户型不超过90平方米,而公摊系数却为32.2%。

According to understand,All international group C escape stage 3 projects are small family,Its biggest family no more than 90 square meters,And equally Shared coefficient is 32.2%。

  对此,阳先生向记者举例说明:对于90平方米的房屋来说,公摊部分有22平方米,除去墙体之后,实得面积只有不到60平方米。

this,Mr. Yang to reporter for example:For 90 square meters of housing for example,Equally Shared part 22 square meters,Remove after wall,Take-home area less than 60 square metre。

  “我们严格按照《房产测量规范》(GB/T17986-2000)的标准及规定进行测算,发现每层均有10余平方米不知去向!”阳先生表示,业主有权了解中铁置业究竟使用了什么方式计算了公摊面积,是否做到了合理、合法,并多次向他们要数据,但都无果。

“We strictly according to the《Measuring standard of real estate》(GB/T17986-2000)Standards and provisions for measurement,Each floor are found 10 square meters whereabouts unknown!”Said Mr Yang,The owner has the right to know exactly what the fe home buyers using the way of calculating equally Shared area,Being reasonable、legal,And many times to their data,But to come。

  另一网帖也显示,自称是逸都国际C组团3期项目31栋业主也强烈质疑公摊测绘数据来源的真实性。“对于30层左右的高层项目来说,一般正常公摊系数在20%~23%之间。”上述发帖者表示,自己还特意找了几家贵阳知名房企的住宅项目进行测算和对比,绝大部分公摊系数也在这个范围内。

Another nets post also display,Claiming to be from all international group C 3 stage project of building owners also strongly questions 31 equally Shared the authenticity of the surveying and mapping data sources。“For about 30 layer of senior project for example,General normal male Shared coefficient is between 20% ~ 23%。”The above bonusgiven said,His also specially for several well-known room of the house guiyang enterprise project estimates and contrast,Most of the equally Shared coefficient and in this range。

  格致(中国)地产顾问有限公司董事长周海斌表示,像上述楼盘公摊面积一般应是30%。

due(China)Real estate consultants Co., ltd., the chairman ZhouHaiBin said,Like the estate equally Shared area should be generally is 30%。

  泰和泰律师事务所合伙人高玉林认为,公摊系数在20%~25%是比较正常的,但超出这个范围就要具体分析,比如建有阔气的入户大堂,公摊系数就相对较大。

The taihe Thai law firm that partners GaoYuLin,Equally Shared coefficient in 20% ~ 25% is more normal,But beyond the scope will concrete analysis,With the luxurious door lobby for example,Equally Shared coefficient is relatively large。

  对于贵阳中铁置业究竟将哪些项目计入了公摊面积,截至发稿时,记者未收到贵阳中铁置业方面的答复。

For guiyang China railway what will which projects included in the home the equally Shared area,By the time,The reporter have not received fe home buyers of guiyang reply。

 

 公摊面积仍无明确界定 Equally Shared area still no clearly defined

  “尤其是对于公摊部分,目前国内并无明确的法律法规出台,导致不该公摊的也摊在了购买面积里面,成为房地产交易中普遍存在的争议焦点。”颜宇丹律师表示。

“Especially for equally Shared part,The current domestic and no clear legal laws and regulations,Lead to pool of also stand shouldn't buy inside the area,Real estate transactions generally exists in the disputed points。”YanYuDan lawyer said。

  事实上,由国家质监局2000年颁布并实施的《房产测量规范》(GB/T17986.1-2000)对“公摊面积”有这样规定,“共有建筑面积的内容包括:电梯井、管道井、楼梯间、垃圾道、变电室、设备间、公共门厅、过道、地下室、值班警卫室,以及为整幢服务的公共用房和管理用房的建筑面积,以水平投影面积计算。”

In fact,By the state quality and implementation promulgated in 2000《Measuring standard of real estate》(GB/T17986.1-2000)to“Equally Shared area”Have such regulations,“Mutual floor area content including:Elevator well、Conduit well、stair、chute、Substation room、Between equipment、Public vestibular、corridor、basement、It to the guard on duty room,And the whole house of service for public housing and management use of building,With the level umbriferous area is calculated。”

  此外,该规范也特别提到,“独立使用的地下室、车棚、车库、为多幢服务的警卫室、管理用房,作为人防工程的地下室都不计入共有建筑面积”。

In addition,This standard also special mention,“Independent of the basement of use、carport、garage、Gatehouse that serves、Management room,As the basement of civil air defence works are not included in the mutual floor area”。

  颜宇丹律师认为,规范中关于公摊面积包含 “为整幢建筑服务的共有房屋和管理房屋”与《物权法》、《物业管理条例》规定之一的“物业管理用房不计入公摊面积”矛盾。但《物权法》及《物业管理条例》的效力显然要高于《房产测量规范》,故物管用房不应计入公摊面积,而这在房地产交易中易被忽视。

YanYuDan lawyer thought,Specification about equally Shared area include “For the building of the house and management service of houses”and《Property law》、《Property management regulation》Provisions of one of“Property management with the room not included in the pool area”contradiction。but《Property law》and《Property management regulation》The validity of the obviously higher than《Measuring standard of real estate》,GuWu tube housing should not be included in the pool area,And the real estate transactions in easy is ignored。

  全国房地产经理人联盟副秘书长陈宝存表示,公摊面积有其计算公式,不是开发企业可以控制的,最终确认计算的是房管部门。如果职能部门出问题,可以向上级主管部门申诉。

The national real estate managers union deputy secretary general ChenBaoCun said,Equally Shared area has its computation formula,Not development enterprise can control,Final confirmation of calculation is janitorial services。If the functional departments,Can appeal to the superior departments。



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