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器官捐献协调员:在逝者与生者间打通一条条通道--亲稳网络舆情监测室
2012-09-03
中央电视台《面对面》栏目2012年9月02日播出《器官捐献:生死接力》,以下是文字实录:
China central television[Face to face]Section 2012, September 02 broadcast[Organ donation:Life and death relay],The following is the text memoir:
【总导视】 [Total guide apparent]
器官捐献协调员,有人说她从事着世间最纠结的职业。
Organ donation coordinator,Someone says she is engaged in the world the most ravel career.
高敏:但是你必须还得让她再心跳复苏,如果心跳不复苏的话,她的心跳恢复不过来,她的器官就衰竭了,就不能够救人了。
Gao min:But you must have to let her heart recovery again,If the heart not recovery words,Her heart recovery not to come over,Her organ is a failure,Is not able to save.
记者:救人是为了让她器官能用?
reporter:Save in order to let her organs can use?
高敏:对,所以总是在生死之间做着一种抉择,
Gao min:to,So always between life and death in doing a choice,
她等待的永远是死亡,但又是新生;他们带给家属的是绝望,但又是希望。
She is always waiting for death,But it is new;They bring family members is despair,But it is hope.
记者:从道德的角度来说,你不希望看一个家庭生离死别,但是从职业的角度来说的话,你希望这个过程马上发生,因为马上发生之后这个人的器官它能够更多地被利用。
reporter:From a moral point of view,Don't you want to see a family between life and death,But from the professional point of view words,You hope that this process happens immediately,Because happened immediately after the man's organ it can be more use.
高敏:对,有时候这样。
Gao min:to,Sometimes such.
捐献器官救人的背后,必定有一个生命的逝去,一个家庭的破碎。
Donate, behind the rest,There must be a life of dies,A family of crushing.
记者:但是你想过没有,在你跟高大姐联系上的那一刻开始,就意味着你把自己的爱人等于是告别了,因为高大姐专门是负责器官捐献的人的?
reporter:But have you ever thought about,In your sister with high contact that moment start,Means that you put your lover, etc then said goodbye to the,Because of high eldest sister special is responsible for organ donation of people?
陈龙坤:这个我知道。
Chen kun:I know this.
记者:那器官捐献的人就意味着她没有生命了,就意味着你和你爱人之间就没有这种联系了,就等于是把她推出去了?
reporter:The organ donation will mean that she had no life,It means that you and your lover is not the contact between the,So put her out?
陈龙坤:不是把她推出去了,
Chen kun:Not put her out,
生死转换之间,她又坚守着什么?
Converting between life and death,She also stick to what?
高敏:我们所期待的一种人与人之间,一种最美好的延续,一种真情的延续。
Gao min:We are looking forward to a kind of interpersonal,A kind of the most beautiful and good continue,A continuation of the truth.
面对面董倩专访深圳市红十字协会器官捐献协调员高敏,正在播出。
DongQian face to face interview shenzhen Red Cross association organ donation coordinator gao min,Is on the air.
【总 片 头】 [Total piece head]
【总 串 场】 [Total string field]
在中国每年等待器官移植的人大概是150多万,而每年真正能够进行的器官移植手术却只有一万多例,器官的需求和供给之间的比例是150:1,而同期在美国这个数字是5:1,在英国是3:1,这就意味着每年会有大量的患者是在无望的等待之中失去了生的可能性。由于这种供需之间巨大的缺口,这些年就衍生出来了一个新的职业,叫做器官捐献协调员,他们在医院和患者之间,在绝望与希望之间,在逝者与生者之间打通了一条条的通道,今天我们的节目就带领您去认识他们中的一位,高敏。
In China each year waiting for organ transplant people is probably more than 150,Each year and really be able to organ transplant but only more than ten thousand cases,Organs of supply and demand is the ratio between the 150:1,In the United States over the same period, the number 5:1,In Britain is 3:1,This means that there will be a large number of patients each year in hopeless wait in lost the possibility of life.Because of the huge gap between supply and demand,During these years is derived out a new career,Called organ donation coordinator,They in the hospital and patient between,Despair and hope in between,In the dead and the living through a between the channel,Today our program will lead you to meet one of them,Gao min.
字幕:深圳 龙岗中心医院
subtitles:Shenzhen longgang central hospital
记者:你今天要看的这个人是什么情况?
reporter:You today to see this person is what circumstance?
高敏:是我们一个潜在的捐献者家属。
Gao min:Are we a potential donor family.
记者:住院的是吗?
reporter:Hospital is??
高敏:对,她在这住院。
Gao min:to,She is in the hospital.
记者:怎么走?
reporter:How can I get to the?
高敏:从这边走。
Gao min:From this way.
解说:高敏,46岁。深圳市红十字会器官捐赠办公室协调员。有人认为他从事的是一份世间最纠结的职业。2012年8月的一天,我们跟随高敏纪录了这样一个即将破碎的家庭。
interpretation:Gao min,46 years old.Shenzhen city Red Cross organ donation office coordinator.Some people think that he is a world in the most ravel career.In August 2012 a day,We follow the gao min record a will be broken homes.
记者:这就是你爱人?
reporter:This is your lover?
陈龙坤:对,她一直没醒过来,就是7月2号动手术以后到现在没醒过来,
Chen kun:to,She hasn't been awake,Is July 2 after surgery to now didn't wake up,
记者:你还准备救她吗?
reporter:You are ready to save her?
陈龙坤:医生讲是救不活了。她身上的肉已经腐烂了,屁股的肉都已经烂掉了。
Chen kun:Doctors say is can't save live.Her flesh had rotted away,The flesh of the bottom has rotted away.
高敏:一定要给她洗。你要勤给她翻一下身,然后皮肤给她拍一拍,叫她那个血活一下,要不然,现在还有没有烧。
Gao min:Must give her washing.You will often give her turn over,Then the skin to give her clap,Call her the blood live once,otherwise,Now there is no burning.
解说:他叫陈龙坤,躺在病床上的是他的妻子欧金容。一个月前,欧金容因突发高血压导致脑部大出血,经紧急抢救后,目前虽然维持有生命特征,但已经无法医治。几天前,陈龙坤决定把妻子的部分器官捐献出来。
interpretation:His name is Chen kun,Lying in bed is his wife a five-footer Europe.A month ago,Europe of a five-footer hypertension lead to brain hemorrhage,After the emergency rescue,At present although maintain life characteristics,But cannot heal.A few days ago,Chen kun decided to take his wife's part to donate organs.
记者:你怎么去找到的高大姐?
reporter:How do you go to find high eldest sister?
陈龙坤:我就是在这里面,ICU病房门口,那边有个牌子,器官捐献者,反正一个人的生命不能继续,就让它延续吧。
Chen kun:I was on the inside,At the door of the ICU,There's a brand,Organ donor,Anyway, the life of a human being can not continue,Let it continue it.
记者:你怎么找到高大姐的?
reporter:How did you find high eldest sister?
陈龙坤:我就打电话过去问的。
Chen kun:I will make a phone call past ask.
记者:他怎么提出来的?
reporter:How did he carry out?
高敏:他说我老婆脑出血,住在医院里了,现在医生说没有希望了,他说她挺善良的一个人,一直对人很好,又很孝顺我妈妈,他说她心那么好,他说她那么年轻,才38岁就走了,我能不能请你帮忙,把她的器官捐出来,去帮帮其他人呢。
Gao min:He said my wife cerebral hemorrhage,Live in the hospital,Now the doctor said there was no hope,He said she's good one,Has been the people are very good,And very filial piety my mother,He said her heart so good,He said she was so young,To 38 years old and went away,Can I ask you to help,She donated organs,To help others?.
记者:你怎么面对他的这个请求,怎么回应?
reporter:How do you face his this request,How to respond to?
高敏:我说你爱人的情况现在是怎么样,我说她现在是不是在重症监护室?他说是,我说现在没在呼吸机上了,他说呼吸机一会儿停,一会儿给她上,我说那她还有没有自主呼吸,他说医生说了有一点点,我说她其他方面的情况呢,他说其他情况,他叫她,反正一直这么多天,手术以后就没有醒过来,叫她她也没回应。
Gao min:I said your lover's situation is now,I said she is now is in severe medicine?He says it is,I said now is not the breathing machine,He said breathing machine stop for a while,I'll call her,I said that she had no spontaneous breathing,He said the doctor said a little,I said she other things?,He said other condition,He asked her,Anyway, have been so many days,After the operation is not awake,Call her she wouldn't respond to.
解说:把妻子的器官捐献出来,对于陈龙坤来讲是一个很难得决定。这些天,他天天对着红十字会的捐献材料,一遍遍地看,一遍遍地发呆。高敏告诉我们,但即便是最开明最坚定的家属也往往无法割舍那份情感,这种割舍会遭遇内心一次次的拷问。
interpretation:The wife to donate organs,For Chen kun speaking is a very rare decision.These days,Every day he to the Red Cross donation material,Would see,Daze over.Gao min tell us,But even the most liberal's most steadfast families also often can not give up that kind of emotion,This kind of give up will encounter inner experiences of torture.
记者:在这一个月的过程中你想过什么,因为她一直是这种非常糟糕的一种状态,说活不活,说死不死,那你做家属的你怎么做决定?
reporter:In this month's process you want anything,Because she has been the very worst one state,Said live not to live,Undead again,That you do family how do you make a decision?
陈龙坤:我就想如果她继续再这样的情况,她的生命已经没办法这样继续,生命已经没办法继续了,她还38岁,毕竟她还年轻,我想把她的器官捐献出来,捐献给社会上哪些有用的人,需要用的人,把她的器官捐献出去。
Chen kun:I think if she continue to this situation,Her life has no way to continue,Life has no way to continue the,She also 38 years old,After all she is young,I want to take her to donate organs,Contributions to the society which useful person,Need people,Her organ donation out.
记者:你是怎么想到要把你爱人的器官捐献出去的,是听了别人的宣传之后这么想的,还是说你自己萌发这么一种想法?
reporter:How do you think about your lover's organ donation go out,Is listening to others' publicity after thinking,Still say your own germination so an idea?
陈龙坤:我自己萌发出这种想法,因为她以前也曾经跟我讲过,因为她曾经有一次出现一点点脑的小的血管破裂了一次,回去治疗了以后,医生就建议她去吃高血压的药,要天天吃,她说怎么会有这个病,如果要死的话她自己有那种感觉可能是四五十岁的时候,因为她的老妈也是50多岁就死了,是心肌梗塞,她说像我的妈妈一样心肌梗塞的话,她自己也有这个感觉,她说我可能也有跟她老妈一样的病,我说不会的。
Chen kun:My own germination out this idea,Because she had also once told me over,Because she once appear a little brain small vascular rupture a,Go back after the treatment,The doctor advised her to eat high blood pressure medicine,Every day to eat,She said how can have this disease,If death words she have that kind of feeling may be forty or fifty years old,Because her mother is also more than 50 years, and he died,Is myocardial infarction,She said that like my mother myocardial infarction words,She also has this feeling,She said I might have the same disease with her mother,I said no.
记者:她的意思是,她当时表达的意思是什么?
reporter:She means,She was the expression meaning is what?
陈龙坤:意思就是可以捐,要我死的话就把我的器官捐献出去。
Chen kun:Means can donate,Want me to death, you can put my organ donation out.
记者:你同意吗?你当时同意吗?
reporter:Do you agree with??Were you agree?
陈龙坤:我当时跟她开玩笑的,我还说她,我说傻瓜呀,哪里有这样的事情,我当时是跟她开玩笑的样子。
Chen kun:I was joking with her,I also said that she,I said a fool!,Where there is such a thing,I was to make fun of her appearance.
解说:让陈龙坤没有想到是,他曾今认为的玩笑居然变成了现实。他有点不甘心,现在他每天都在不停的与妻子说话,为她翻身、擦洗,可是妻子依然没有任何知觉。根据陈龙坤的要求,高敏提供了器官志愿捐献同意书,但他却迟迟不愿意在上面签字,或许陈龙坤正在等着奇迹的发生。
interpretation:Let Chen kun didn't think it was,He had a joke today think that become a reality.He is a bit not voluntarily,Now every day he kept talking with his wife,Blow for her/scrub,But his wife still does not have any perception.According to the requirements of Chen kun,Gao min provides organ donation agreement volunteer,But he was not willing to sign it,Perhaps Chen kun is waiting for the occurrence of miracles.
记者:这段时间对你来说一定特别痛苦?
reporter:This period of time for you must have special pain?
陈龙坤:是真的。
Chen kun:Is really.
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