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2012-11-05
10月22日,新华社国际新闻即时播报官方微博“新国际”发出一条微博,称澳大利亚华人慈善家魏基成拟向中国听力障碍儿童捐10万只助听器。
On October 22,,Xinhua international news immediately announce the official micro bo"New international"Send a micro bo,Says Australia Chinese philanthropist WeiJiCheng to plan China hearing disability donate 100000 only hearing aid.
但几天后,听障儿童机构志愿者质疑魏基成所捐助听器为“损害孩子的垃圾”。
But after a few days,The hearing impaired institutions volunteers WeiJiCheng gave was questioned for hearing AIDS"Damage children's garbage".
企业家魏基成热衷慈善 Entrepreneurs WeiJiCheng keen to charity
“他在澳大利亚的企业做得很好,这些年在中国做了很多慈善工作。”
"He in Australia enterprises do well,During these years in China do so much charity work."
在华人企业家中,魏基成并不广为人所知。
In Chinese enterprise home,WeiJiCheng is not widely known.
从中新网的多次报道中,可以了解到魏基成是澳大利亚ABC纸巾有限公司董事长,祖籍广东揭阳市。1985年由香港移民澳大利亚,其创办的ABC公司闯入全澳100强大型供货商之列,名列第47位。
The report from Beijing many times,Can understand the WeiJiCheng is one of Australia's ABC paper towel co., LTD., chairman of the board of directors,Ancestral home guangdong jieyang city.In 1985 by the Hong Kong immigration Australia,The ABC company founded in Australia 100 strong among the large suppliers,Ranked a 47.
数年前,魏基成就在广东、江西、湖南等地开展慈善活动。而此次捐赠助听器则缘于“许多听力障碍的儿童无法正常求学、就业,甚至失去了与人沟通的机会,想帮助这些儿童走出心中的阴影,帮助它们听到美妙的声音。”
Several years ago,WeiJi achievement in guangdong/jiangxi/Hunan in charitable activities.The donation hearing aid is due"Many hearing disorder in children can't normal school/employment,Even lose the chance to communicate with people,Want to help these children out of the shadow of the heart,Help them to hear the voice of the beautiful."
今年9月6日,魏基成来北京,向7·21受灾民众、失聪残疾人、困难群体捐赠1.1万件夹克、1万套助听器和6000副老花镜,北京市侨办的耿朝东全程陪同了五天时间。谈起对魏基成的印象,耿朝东表示“人肯定没问题,非常彽调。”
This year on September 6,,WeiJiCheng came to Beijing,To 7 · 21 the affected people/Deaf disabled/Difficult group donated 11000 jacket/10000 sets of hearing AIDS and 6000 vice presbyopic glasses,Beijing overseas Chinese affairs office of the GengChaoDong accompanied by the five days.Talk about to WeiJiCheng impression,GengChaoDong said"People sure no problem,Very 彽 adjustable."
“他在澳大利亚的企业的确做得很好,而且这些年他在中国各地做了很多慈善工作,不只关注聋哑群体,像白内障人群、教育等领域他都有关注,为人非常低调。”
"He in Australia's enterprise really do well,And in recent years in his around China do so much charity work,Not only focus on deaf group,People like cataract/Education fields he have attention,Is a very low-key."
在耿朝东五天的陪同中,了解到做慈善的不只魏基成一个人,“他现在已经形成了一个团队,很多企业家、志愿者都在跟他一起做。据我所知,助听器就是团队里一个台湾人企业的产品。”
In GengChaoDong five days in accompanied,Know to do charity not only WeiJiCheng a person,"He has now formed a team,Many entrepreneurs/Volunteers are in together with him to do.As far as I know,Hearing AIDS is a team in a Taiwanese enterprise products."
而据中新网报道,魏基成9月份在湖南捐赠的助听器就是由在台湾从事助听器生产行业的吴先生有感于魏基成的善心后,低价出售给魏基成用于捐赠的。
But according to a report,WeiJi into September in hunan donated by hearing AIDS in Taiwan is engaged in hearing aid production industry WeiJiCheng impressed by Mr. Wu's heart after,Sell at a low price to WeiJiCheng used for donation.
聋儿家长的失落 For the loss of parents
“关键是这种助听器根本不适合孩子用,听力不但得不到修复,还受到更大的伤害。”
"The key is the hearing aid was not at all suitable for children,Listening is not only not repair,But also by the more damage."
22号“新国际”的微博一发出,中国聋儿网和中国聋儿家长会的创办人洪浩猛等一群聋儿家长非常兴奋。
22"New international"Micro bo a issued,For China net and China for the founder of the parents' meeting hong hao fierce and a group of hearing-impaired children parents very excited.
“许多家长奔走相告,但后来慢慢觉得有点不太对劲儿了。”洪浩猛表示。
"Many parents go around spreading,But then slowly to feel a bit too the answers."Hong hao fierce said.
他进一步分析,“我们专职做这个公益组织7年多,无论是医院、聋儿群体,还是生产厂家都很熟悉。这么大规模的一批捐赠,肯定需要一个完善的体系来完成,比如社会调查、医疗机构的验配等管理团队和听力医学团队共同介入,但我们却没有在任何地方听到相关的消息。”为探虚实,洪浩猛给魏基成发去了一封电子邮件。
He further analysis,"We do this public welfare organization full-time 7 years,Whether hospital/Group for,Or manufacturers are familiar with.So large a donation,Sure need a perfect system to complete,Such as social survey/Medical institutions such as the check with management team and hearing medical team common intervention,But we didn't at any place heard related news."For exploratory false or true,Hong hao fierce to WeiJiCheng sent an E-mail.
“微博上只留了一个电子邮件地址,没有电话。”洪浩猛说。
"Micro bo left only an email address,No phone."Hong hao fierce said.
10月26日,洪浩猛收到了回复,在他看来答案既意外也不意外。
On October 26,,Hong hao fierce received reply,In his view the answer is accident is not accidental.
“很格式化的回复,附图介绍了所捐助听器的情况。”一看到助听器的介绍,洪浩猛觉得之前的怀疑被证实了。
"Very formatting reply,This paper introduces the appended drawings to donate the hearing AIDS."See the introduction of a hearing aid,Hong hao fierce think before the suspect was confirmed.
“是早被淘汰的那种模拟助听器,国内网上的同类产品价格158元。”但这不是问题的关键,“关键是这种助听器根本不适合孩子用,现在很多成年聋人小时候用的就是这种助听器,他们就是受害者,听力不但得不到修复,还受到更大的伤害。”洪浩猛说。
"Is early be eliminated the sort of simulation hearing aid,On the domestic similar products price 158 yuan."But this is not the key to the problem,"The key is the hearing aid was not at all suitable for children,Now a lot of adult with deaf when I was a child is the kind of hearing aid,They are victims,Listening is not only not repair,But also by the more damage."Hong hao fierce said.
“通俗地说,模拟助听器就像一个音箱,什么声音都可以给你放得很大,但现在儿童们普遍用的数字式助听器就像是调音台,把需要放大的部分放大,不需要的不去管,这样孩子们听力中受损伤的部分可以得到修补,而健康的部分不会受到影响,但如果你都放大了,对那部分不用修补的部分就是一种伤害。”洪浩猛解释。
"Popularly says,Simulation hearing aid like a sound box,What sound can give you put heavily,But now the children generally use digital hearing aid like mixer,The need for amplification part of amplification,Do not need not to tube,So the children in the hearing of the damaged part can get repair,And healthy part will not be affected,But if you have been amplified,With that part of don't repair part is a kind of hurt."Hong hao fierce explain.
由于回复的邮件中没有提产品生产厂家和型号,因此无法从药监局查到是否有这批助听器的合法审批。洪浩猛的疑问是,“澳大利亚的助听器技术很发达,还会生产这种国内都淘汰了的低端产品吗?这批助听器究竟是哪生产出来的?弄不清楚。”
Due to reply email did not mention products manufacturer and model,So can't from the administration's check to have this batch of hearing aid legal examination and approval.Hong hao fierce question is,"Australia's hearing aid technology is developed,Will this kind of domestic production are eliminated low-end products?This batch of hearing AIDS what came out of the production?Not clear."
收到邮件后,洪浩猛和众多聋儿家长非常失望,中国聋儿网站的志愿者、咿呀听语义工社社长微博名为“莫克gg”在网上发出了指责所捐助听器为“垃圾”的帖子。
After received the email,Hong hao fierce and many parents for very disappointed,China web site for the volunteers/Yi ah listening to language volunteers club President called micro bo"Mork gg"In the online issued the blame for his hearing AIDS"garbage"post.
家长们也集体停止了转发这条微博。
Parents also collective stopped forwarding this article micro bo.
10月31日,记者就此事向魏基成发出电子邮件进行了解,但截至发稿时止,尚未获得回复。
October 31,Reporters on the matter WeiJiCheng to send E-mail to understand,But at the time of termination,Has not yet won back.
各方说法:是否适用看个体情况 That all parties:It is a look at individual situation
“数字助听器肯定好,但也不能绝对地说模拟助听器就完全不能用。”
"Digital hearing aid must be good,But not absolutely said simulation hearing aid is completely can't use."
模拟助听器是否如洪浩猛所说,对聋儿听力会造成伤害?
Simulation hearing aid is as fierce hong hao said,Children listening can cause damage?
中国聋儿康复研究中心听力门诊部工作人员在接受记者电话采访时介绍,从听力学方面来说,传统型模拟助听器大多是线性放大,即对轻、中、重的所有声音进行同等放大,而数字助听器则是宽动态压缩线路,即能做到小声放大、大声压缩,可以根据每个人不同的听力损失进行相应的弥补,帮助听力障碍者听清声音。
China rehabilitation research centre for hearing clinic staff when accepting a reporter when the telephone interview is introduced,From audiology ways,Traditional analog hearing AIDS are mostly linear amplification,Namely to light/in/Heavy all voice for the same amplification,And digital hearing aid is wide dynamic compression line,Namely can do small voice amplification/Loudly compression,According to each person is different hearing loss corresponding make up,Help listening disabilities hear voice.
“数字助听器肯定好,但也不能绝对地说模拟助听器就完全不能用,要对具体的使用者进行详细检查,因个体情况而论。”这位工作人员谨慎地表示。
"Digital hearing aid must be good,But not absolutely said simulation hearing aid is completely can't use,To specific user carry on the detailed inspection,Because the individual situation."The staff is cautiously.
该工作人员还表示,目前市场上模拟助听器基本已属于边缘化产品,“市场占有率几乎不到一成。”
This staff also said,On the market at present simulation hearing aid basic already belongs to the marginal product,"Market share nearly less than ten percent."
同仁医院主要研究临床听力学医生张华则用比喻称:“馒头可以吃,但面包做得越来越好,不过,也不能就说馒头不能吃了。”
Tongren hospital research clinical audiology doctor ZhangHuaZe metaphorically says:"Steamed bread can eat,But bread better and better,but,Also cannot say steamed bread can't eat."
模拟助听器是否会对孩子的听力带来损伤?张华表示:“我知道这件事,但不想发表任何意见。”
Simulation hearing aid will bring to the child's hearing damage?Zhang hua said:"I know this thing,But don't want to make any comments."
而耿朝东则认为“不太可能”。
And GengChaoDong is think"Is unlikely to".
虽然不能确定这次捐赠的10万只助听器就是自己当初接触到的台湾企业所产,但就当时接触到的产品,耿朝东认为很先进。
Although not sure the donated 100000 hearing-aid is he had come into contact with Taiwan enterprise production,But when contact with the product,GengChaoDong think very advanced.
“我了解到那个助听器技术是目前世界上最先进的,充电式、台湾专利、大陆生产,但并不在大陆销售,而是出口到欧洲和日本,如果要精准表明儿童使用是否适合,没有专家的具体验证,也不好说,但肯定是正规的产品。”
"I learned that the hearing aid technology is currently the world's most advanced,rechargeable/Taiwan patent/Continental production,But not in China sales,But export to Europe and Japan,If you want to show that children use accurate fit,No experts of the specific verification,Don't know,But it is regular products."
对于这种出口到欧洲和日本的助听器售价,耿进东表示并不清楚。
For this kind of export to Europe and Japan's hearing aid price,GengJin east said is not clear.
受捐者:儿童使用效果一般 ShouJuanZhe:Children usually use effect
“说实话,小孩子使用的效果也就是一般般。”
"To tell you the truth,Children use the effect also is just so so."
长沙雨聆聋儿康复中心(以下简称康复中心)是最早获得魏基成捐助助听器的机构之一,据康复中心老师曾艳芳介绍,小孩子用这款助听器效果一般。
Changsha listening to the rain for rehabilitation center(Hereinafter referred to as the rehabilitation center)Is the earliest WeiJiCheng donations for hearing aid organisations,According to the rehabilitation center CengYanFang teacher introduced,Children with this kind of hearing aid effect general.
9月3日,长沙雨聆聋儿康复中心获得了魏基成捐赠的150台助听器,包括适用于轻度听力障碍和重度听力障碍两种类型。
September 3,Changsha listening to the rain for rehabilitation center won the WeiJiCheng donated 150 sets of hearing aid,Including suitable for mild hearing impairment and severe hearing impairment two types.
拿到助听器后,康复中心开始向社会上有需求的人公开发放。曾艳芳坦言,“说实话,小孩子使用的效果也就是一般般,所以大部分的助听器都是成年或老年听力障碍的人用,有些老人觉得效果特别好,直夸‘好棒’!”
Get after hearing AIDS,Rehabilitation center began to the social needs of the public issue.CengYanFang said,"To tell you the truth,Children use the effect also is just so so,So most of the hearing AIDS are an adult or older hearing impairment of people with,Some old people feel very good effect,Straight quart‘great’!"
康复中心送出去的130个左右助听器中,只有不到10个是小孩子在用。
Rehabilitation center to send out of the 130 or so in the hearing AIDS,Only less than 10 is in children.
“不知道是哪里产的,上面的字都是英文,应该不是国内产的,是澳大利亚吧?”曾艳芳说。
"Don't know where is made,The words are in English,Should not be made in China,Is Australia's?"CengYanFang said.
北京一位不愿透露姓名的家长说:“模拟助听器对孩子的听力不能实现有效补偿,单纯放大声音并不适合他们,会出现小声仍然听不清大声震得难受的情况,严重的话会加重听力损失。本以为国外的捐赠可能科技含量更高一些,现在看,即使捐给我,我们也不敢给孩子用,还是自己给孩子买数字的吧。”
Beijing one does not wish to disclose the name of the parents say:"Simulation hearing aid to the child's hearing can't realize effective compensation,Simple amplification the sound is not suitable for them,Will appear small voice still couldn't hear loud earthquake uncomfortable situation,Serious word can aggravate the hearing loss.This thought foreign donations may some higher content of science and technology,Now look at,Even if I go to,We also can't give children use,Or their children to buy digital it."
关爱聋儿项目不足 Care for lack of project
中国每年有三至四万新生聋儿,关爱聋儿的公益力量明显不足。
Every year China has three to forty thousand newborn children,Caring for public welfare strength is not enough.
中国目前2000多万的聋人,其中90万左右为聋儿,每年还会有三至四万的新生聋儿。对于这个群体来说,目前公益力量解决其困境的力量明显不足。
China is now more than 2000 deaf,About 900000 of them for hearing-impaired children,Every year there will be three to forty thousand newborn children.For this group is,At present efforts to solve the dilemma of public power is not enough.
目前国内较大规模的关注聋儿项目是中国残联的听力康复项目。
At present domestic large-scale attention for project is China disabled persons' federations and hearing rehabilitation project.
该项目在2011年到2012年,为4000名符合手术指征的听力残疾儿童实施人工耳蜗植入手术,并补贴手术费、康复训练经费。为4500名符合条件的听力残疾儿童免费佩戴助听器并补贴康复训练经费。该项目到2013-2015年,这两个数字分别为4289例手术及4500只助听器。
This project in 2011 to 2012,For the 4000 accord with surgical indications of hearing disability children implement artificial cochlear implant surgery,And subsidy operation/Rehabilitation training funds.For 4500 meet the conditions of the hearing disability children free to wear hearing AIDS and rehabilitation training subsidy funds.The project to 2013-2015,The two digital respectively for 4289 cases of surgery and 4500 only hearing aid.
此外,还有些地方政府也在做一些小范围的聋儿关爱项目。
In addition,Some local governments are also do small range of love for the project.
“中残联的项目免费给的助听器是5000元至1万元左右的,但毕竟名额有限,这次听说有企业家捐赠,很多聋儿家长都希望能获得更好的助听器,没想到结果是这样。”一直希望能推动社会力量关注聋儿关爱事业的洪浩猛说。
"ZhongCanLian project to free of hearing AIDS is 5000 yuan to 10000 yuan or so,But after all seats are limited,The heard about entrepreneurs donation,A lot of hearing-impaired children parents hoping to get better hearing aid,Didn't expect the result is such."Always hope to promote social forces attention for the cause of love finds fierce said.
“我们不想没有证据地去怀疑魏基成先生的善心,但想说的是,做慈善也要科学地做。”洪浩猛说。
"We don't want to have no evidence to doubt WeiJiCheng sir's heart,But want to say is,Do charity also want to do science."Hong hao fierce said.
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