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房地产:经济衰退的强心针?--亲民维稳网络舆情监测室
2012-07-17

房地产:经济衰退的强心针?福州近一年房价走势来源:海都房网 Fuzhou almost a year trend of house prices source:The sea is FangWang

  楼市调控,钢铁、瓷砖等相关行业更受挫;业界认为,中国对房地产依赖大,“保增长”或让房地产迎来一波新行情

Property market regulation,steel、Ceramic tile and related more frustration;Industry thinks,China real estate to rely on,“The growth”Or let a new wave in real estate market

  GDP增速三年来首次跌破8%,经济衰退以直观的数据进入了大众的视野。GDP破8,是欧债危机蔓延的蝴蝶效应显现,还是中国经济转型引起增长放缓?未来经济何去何从?无论如何,宏观经济最终都会以微观方式贴近我们的生活,买菜吃饭、就业谋生、生活消费……都是宏观经济的神经末梢。

GDP growth fell below 8% for the first time in three years,Recession for direct data into the public's field of vision。GDP broken 8,Is the debt crisis spreading the butterfly effect to show,China's economic transformation cause growth?Future economic what to do?No matter how to,Macroeconomic eventually to micro way close to our life,Buy food to eat、Employment for a living、Life consumption...Are macro economic nerve endings。

  在这个经济节点上,我省的经济究竟如何,市民生活又受到怎样的影响?今起,本报推出“GDP破8感知经济冷暖”系列报道,选取与宏观经济联系比较紧密的房地产、外贸、物流、旅游、消费等行业,从个体的感知出发,见微知著,展现GDP破8给我省行业经济带来的影响。

In this economic nodes,The economy in our province how on earth,And the life of citizens by the influence of how?Today on,Our newspaper launched“The economic changes in temperature 8 GDP perception”Series of reports,Select and macro economy more closely contact of real estate、Foreign trade、logistics、tourism、Consumption industries,Starting from an individual perception,coming,Show the industry to GDP 8 in our province economic impacts。

  “好比家里养了好多个孩子,虽然房地产这个孩子有很多劣迹,但是至少还是会赚钱养家嘛。虽然还会强调调控,但是实际操作中,或提振楼市。”

“Like home keep a lot of a child,Although the children have a lot of real estate sleaze,But at least it will make money or family。Although stressed regulation,But in practical operation,Or to boost property market。”

  福州房产资深人士林先生

Fuzhou housing senior personage Mr. Lin

  N本报记者 杨永敏 实习生 温碧媛

N our reporter WenBiYuan YangYongMin interns

  本报讯“只要开发商野心不是太大,没钱到处拿地,这一轮调控基本还是赚钱。”楼市调控一年多以来,房地产成交量虽然大幅萎缩,但是福州一位建筑公司负责人的看法,多少让人诧异。他说,手里持着还在涨价的房子,怎么会亏钱呢?目前日子真的难过的是钢铁、水泥、瓷砖等房地产相关行业,销量大幅萎缩,价格持续阴跌。

Report from our correspondent“As long as developers ambition is not too big,Didn't have the money to get around,This round of control basic still make money。”More than a year after the housing market regulation,Real estate volume although greatly atrophy,But the fuzhou a construction company of the person in charge of the view,How many people are surprised。He said,Holding hands in house prices,How can lost money?At present day really is sad steel、cement、Real estate related industries such as ceramic tile,Sharply shrinking sales,Prices continue to fall Yin。

  今年来,福州房地产市场各种利好不断释放,楼市明显复苏。而在很多人看来,中国经济放缓对于楼市或是一个机会,“保增长”成为共识,提振楼市或顺理成章,在业界看来,近期房地产会迎来一波新行情。

This year to,Fuzhou real estate market continuously releasing all kinds of good,Property market apparent recovery。And in many eyes,China's economic slowdown for housing or a chance,“The growth”Become consensus,To boost property market or ripe,In the industry seems to,The recent real estate will usher in a wave of new market。

  “有大项目撑着,日子没受影响”福州包工头老陈

“A great project support,Haven't affected”Fuzhou labor contractor chan

  2008年那波比较惨

In 2008, the wave is miserable

  “说实话,这一轮调控,没什么影响”,老陈,福州建筑界的老包工头,四十左右,做建筑这行有十几年了,常年在几个工地上跑,皮肤黝黑,说话直爽。

“To tell you the truth,This round of regulation,No effect”,chan,Fuzhou architectural old labor contractor,About forty,The line for building more than ten years,Perennial in several construction site running,Dark skin,Straight talk。

  “2008年那波,比较苦啊,行业一夜爆冷,很多同行单子都接不到了,业务量跌了一半左右”,老陈回忆起2008年,摇摇头说道,那年活突然少了,农民工没活干,纷纷返乡,不少建筑公司直接歇工,回家喝茶打麻将了。老陈停了下,接着说道,2009年开始就发生大变化了,房地产行业又开始复苏了,农民工从过剩直接到了“用工荒”。

“In 2008, the wave,More bitter ah,Industry night shock,Many counterparts by not to list,Business fell about half”,Chan recalled 2008 years,Shakes his head said,That year living suddenly less,Migrant workers didn't work,Home in succession,Many buildings company directly results,Home tea playing mahjong。Chan stopped down,Then said,2009 years begin to take place big change,The real estate industry and recovery,Migrant workers from surplus to directly“Labor laid waste”。

  “2010年、2011年,万达、贵安几个大项目撑着,这市场也疯狂起来了。”老陈说道,大工程赶工,找不到工人,工人的工资是一天一个价。据介绍,2008年的时候农民工的工资大概一天就110元左右,2011年的时候涨到了250~280元/天。

“2010 years、2011 years,wanda、Your Ann several big project support,This market is also wild up。”Chan said,Big engineering the crush,Can't find workers,The salaries of the workers is one day a price。According to introducing,2008 years of peasant workers' wages for about a day is 110 yuan,2011 years up to 250-280 yuan/day。

  “农民工来上工要开车去接的,一天一结算,不看到现钱,工人直接不干了。”老陈笑着说,缺工的时候农民工就是爷,每天晚上下工时要付现金,还要赔笑脸预约第二天,“每天晚上都要先谈定价格。”老陈说,虽然去年楼市卖不好,但是几个大项目撑着,他们日子没受影响。

“Migrant workers to drive to pick up to at work at,One day a settlement,Don't see cash,The workers' direct quit。”Chan says with a laugh,Lack of work migrant workers is right,The working hours every night to pay cash,Also PeiXiaoLian appointment the next day,“Every night 谈定 price first。”Chan said,Although last year to sell property market is bad,But several big project support,They haven't affected。

  开发商不贪心这一轮还是赚钱的

Develop business not to be greedy this round still make money

  老陈说,这几年,要数今年的工程比较好做,“工钱老涨,当天结算,开发商付钱都是能拖就拖,建筑公司借高利贷支付农民工工资,也就没什么利润了。今年农民工工资稳定了,工程相对比较好做”。

Chan said,Over the past few years,For this year's engineering is better make,“Wages go up old,The settlement,Developers pay are can drag him,Construction company pay wages by usury migrant workers,There is not a profit。Migrant workers pay the stable this year,Engineering is relatively good do”。

  不过,老陈担心,接下来如果福州楼市的新项目不上马,建筑公司可能就要受到实际影响了。

but,Chan worry,The next if the housing market new projects not fuzhou mount,The construction company may be affected by the actual。

  对于楼市低迷,开发商愁苦的说法,老陈有不同的看点。这么多年福州的大小楼盘他参与不少,他认为,只要不是开发商野心太大,没钱到处拿地,把资金链弄得太紧张,这几年的行情,开发商都是赚钱的。“2008年那一波,开发商没钱付工钱,都用房子来抵,现在哪个开发商愿意把房子来抵工程款?”老陈笑着说,开发商手里的房子在涨价,谁都不愿意拿出来抵工程款。据介绍,前两年福州房价是翻倍涨,楼市的利润空间还是有的。

For the housing downturn,Developers and claim,Chan have different attraction。So many years of fuzhou in many building his size,He thinks,As long as not developers is too ambitious,Didn't have the money to get around,The capital chain get too nervous,These years of market,Developers are making money。“2008 years that a wave,Developers have no money to pay wages,All you have to cover with the house,Now the house which developers who want to have to cover the payment?”Chan says with a laugh,Developers in the house prices in his hand,Who is not willing to take out the payment is worth。According to introducing,Two years before the fuzhou price is doubled up,The housing market profit space or some。

  “都卖得不错,你去看看,今年金山的几个盘又涨价了,每平方米涨了一两千元”。老陈说,现在买房不好买啰。

“Are selling well,You go to see,This year several dish and jinshan the price,Rose 12000 yuan per square meter”。Chan said,Now to buy a house not buy them。

  “房地产还有一波行情”福州房地产资深人士林先生

“Real estate and a wave of market”Fuzhou real estate senior personage Mr. Lin

  市场还是有钱的一在银行二在民间

Market or a rich in bank in the folk

  “房地产还有一波行情。”昨日,房地产资深人士林先生肯定地说道,GDP增速放缓,房地产行业可能受到新的重视。“好比家里养了好多个孩子,虽然房地产这个孩子有很多劣迹,但是至少还是会赚钱养家嘛。虽然还会强调调控,但是实际操作中,或提振楼市。”

“Real estate and a wave of market。”yesterday,Real estate senior people sure Mr. Lin said,GDP growth is slowing,The real estate industry may be new attention。“Like home keep a lot of a child,Although the children have a lot of real estate sleaze,But at least it will make money or family。Although stressed regulation,But in practical operation,Or to boost property market。”

  林先生认为,目前市场还是有钱的,金融部门还是会释放一部分资金,不可避免要流入楼市,在这个资金未枯竭之前,楼市还是有行情的。其次,老百姓缺乏投资渠道,钱还是会流入固定资产楼市。

Mr. Lin think,At present the market or the rich,The financial sector will release a part of the capital,To the inevitable into the property market,In this money not before exhaustion,Housing market still have an option。second,Common people lack of investment channels,The money will flow into the fixed assets in the sector。

  “保增长”已成共识房产或受到重视

“The growth”Has become a consensus house property or attention

  而省内房产专家刘福泉认为,GDP下滑,“保增长”将成为各方共识,对经济贡献比较大的房地产或受到重视。在刘福泉看来,中国城市化进程在加快,除了北京、上海等城市化进程比较成熟的城市,不太愿意人口继续向城市集约外,其他城市还在继续推进城市化进程,房地产行业就有了发展的基础。

And real estate experts LiuFuQuan think province,GDP fell,“The growth”The parties will become the consensus,Contribution to the economy of the big real estate or attention。In LiuFuQuan seems,China's urbanization process in speed up,In addition to Beijing、Shanghai urbanization process more mature city,Not too would like to continue to the city population intensive,Other cities also continue to the process of urbanization,The real estate industry have development foundation。

  不过,林先生和刘福泉都认为,几轮调控的思路比较相似,调控不改思路,恐越用越衰竭,难起大效用。林先生认为,如果这次中国没有及时调整经济结构,各种体制没有及时改革调整,整体经济或持续下滑,接着会产生地方债、银行坏账等,甚至影响地方稳定等连锁反应,届时楼市就可能进入下跌通道。

but,Mr. Lin and LiuFuQuan all think,Several rounds of regulation similar ideas,Regulation does not change ideas,The fear in the failure,Difficult up big utility。Mr. Lin think,If the Chinese have no in time the adjustment of economic structure,All kinds of system reform have no in time,Overall economic or continue to slide,Then will produce the local debt、The Banks' bad loans, etc,Even affect the local stability of the chain reaction,When the housing market may fall into the channel。

  【行业观察】

【Industry observation】

  钢筋水泥更受伤

Reinforced cement more were injured

  “楼市调控,对不少和房地产相关的行业影响很大”,一位业界人士如此说道。据了解,与房地产及建筑市场密切相关的钢材、水泥、陶瓷、防水等行业,从2012年年初以来,价格已阴跌半年之久。目前,钢材、水泥的价格,已经跌至2007年的水平。

“Property market regulation,For many and real estate industry's influence”,A professionals said。According to understand,And the real estate and construction market closely related steel、cement、ceramic、Waterproof, etc,From 2012 since the beginning,The price has been cloudy fall six months。At present,steel、Cement prices,Has fallen to the level of 2007。

  低位徘徊一年后成交量起来了

Low volume up after a year around

  此轮楼市调控近两年,受限购、限贷的影响,楼市成交量去年都在低位徘徊。而土地市场也受到冲击,2011年1—6月,福州共推出25幅地块,合2552.7亩,总金额高达近201.4亿元。但今年1—6月,福州共出让四幅地,合104.7亩,总金额不足10.7亿元。今年上半年榕土地出让面积同比降幅高达96%,金额同比降幅高达95%!

This round of market regulation in the past two years,限购 by、Credit limit the influence of,Property market turnover last year have remained at the low。And the land market also is the impact,June 1, 2011,Fuzhou were launched 25 of land,$2552.7 acres,The total amount as high as nearly 20.14 billion yuan。But this year 1-6 months,The four picture of fuzhou,$104.7 acres,The total amount of less than 1.07 billion yuan。In the first half of this year lease the land area of banyan by as much as 96% year-on-year,Amount by as much as 95% year-on-year!

  但是,近几个月,福州楼市成交量明显上涨,二手房成交价也在连续12个月的下滑后止跌回涨。而记者近期从福州的几个楼盘了解到,福州多个楼盘调高了售价,房价有所反弹走高。

but,In recent months,Fuzhou property market turnover significantly higher,Secondhand the room clinch a deal valence also in 12 consecutive months after the downturn in the HuiZhang reason。And the reporter from some of the recent building fuzhou to know,Fuzhou many projects.following raised prices,Bounce house prices higher。

  钢材水泥价还在持续向下

Steel price cement continues down

  上述业界人士透露,与房产相关的行业,价格已经经历半年之久的持续阴跌,钢材、水泥价格已经跌至2007年的水平。唯一不同的是:2007年的建材市场,处于向上的行情,今年却恰恰相反。价格下跌与产能过剩同时出现,2012年下半年的建材市场走向,难以乐观。

The industry sources,And the real estate industry,Prices have been through six months of continuous Yin fall,steel、Cement prices have dropped to the level of 2007。The only difference is the:2007 years of building materials market,In the market up,This year it is just the opposite。Falling prices and excess capacity simultaneously,The second half of 2012 following the building materials market trends,Difficult to optimistic。

  “再这么下去,不少瓷砖厂、砖厂怕是要倒闭了”,老陈说道,原材料、人工涨价了,产品价格却跌了,需求仍在萎缩,这些和房地产相关的行业,受到的影响更大。

“And so down,Many ceramic tile factory、Size brick field afraid to close down”,Chan said,Raw materials、Artificial increase the price,The product price but fell,Demand has been shrinking,These and real estate industry,The impact on the more。



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