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陈德荣:五年左右让温州房价收入比回归合理--亲稳舆论引导监测室
2012-08-09

陈德荣:五年左右让温州房价收入比回归合理浙江省委常委、副省长、温州市委书记陈德荣回答网友提问。苏巧将摄 Zhejiang provincial party committee of、Deputy governor、Wenzhou municipal party committee secretary ChenDeRong answer the questions。Sue artful will be taken

  从金融综合改革到优化发展环境、从畅通交通到塘河治污、从拆违绿化到房价问题……围绕当前老百姓关注的焦点问题,省委常委、副省长、市委书记陈德荣在昨天与广大网民的互动交流中,一一积极回应热点、坦诚回答问题。

From the financial comprehensive reform to optimize the development environment、From unblocked traffic to liantang river pollution treatment、From CaWei green to house prices problem.............On the focus of attention of the common people,Provincial party committee of、Deputy governor、The municipal party committee secretary ChenDeRong yesterday and the majority of Internet users in the interaction of the exchange,Positive responses to one hot spot、Honest answer questions。

  

1、"金改"效应将逐步显现” 1、"Gold to"Effect will gradually appear”

  问:目前温州“金改”的具体成效好像没怎么看到,与百姓关系似乎也不大,您对温州“金改”作用的发挥有信心吗?

q:At present wenzhou“Gold to”The specific results like didn't see,Relations with the people seem to is small,You of wenzhou“Gold to”Role of have faith?

  答:金融是现代经济的核心。改革开放30多年,我们在要素市场化改革特别是金融改革方面,跟整体经济体制还有较大落差。推进金融体制改革是市场经济体制改革深化的一个必经程序。但金融是一个非常复杂的系统,不可能在一夜之间、通过一两个举措就有较大改变。改革进入深水区,除了要大胆推进,更要稳妥推进,防范金融风险始终是金融体制改革一个非常重要的内容。温州“金改”得到国务院批复,效应已经体现出来:树立了温州企业界、经济界的信心;各大金融机构放宽了对温州不良率的容忍度,为企业界营造比较宽容的金融环境。温州“金改”方面推出的系列举措,为温州经济体制改革深化、“温州模式”的提升奠定了非常好的基础,“金改”效应将在今后逐步显现。

a:Finance is the core of modern economy。30 years of reform and opening up,We in factor marketization reform, especially in financial reform,With the whole economic system and larger gap。Promote the reform of the financial system is the market economic system reform deepening of a necessary procedures。But financial is a very complicated system,Can't be in overnight、Through a two measures have changed greatly。The reform is in deep water area,In addition to advance boldly,More to be safely ahead,Preventing financial risks is always the reform of the financial system is a very important content。wenzhou“Gold to”Get the state council ratified,Effects have been reflected:Set up the wenzhou in the business world、American confidence;Each big financial institutions eased restrictions on wenzhou defective rate of tolerance,For business build more tolerant financial environment。wenzhou“Gold to”Release series measures,For the wenzhou economic system reform deepening、“Wenzhou model”The ascension of the laid very good foundation,“Gold to”Effect in the future will gradually revealed。

  

2、“温州制造业竞争优势仍存” 2、“Wenzhou manufacturing remain competitive advantage”

  问:过去一段时间实体经济生存发展环境恶化,造成当前温州经济不太乐观,振兴实体经济路在何方?

q:Over time the entity economy development environmental degradation,Cause the current wenzhou economy is not optimistic,The entity where the economy?

  答:当前企业面临的困难,有宏观经济大环境的影响,也说明原来的发展方式已经难以为继。温州制造业在世界制造业中的竞争优势仍然存在,关键就要转变发展方式。振兴实体经济需要政企联动,一方面,企业要从资源消耗型、规模扩张型向创新驱动型转变,依靠科技创新、市场拓展,向“微笑曲线”两端延伸,提升单位产品的附加值。一方面,政府要加大投入力度,营造更好的发展环境,包括推进1650大都市建设,以大都市、大平台来集聚高端要素,为企业转型升级创造支撑条件;通过沿海产业带、空港经济区、瓯江口新区等大平台建设,为产业集聚营造良好环境条件;加大围垦力度,加大土地复垦耕地再造力度,为企业发展提供要素保障支撑;大力度推进政府本身改革,打造公共服务型政府,以政府转型推动经济转型。

a:The current enterprise facing difficulties,A macro economic environment,Also shows that the original development mode is unsustainable。Wenzhou manufacturing industry in the world manufacturing the competition still exists,Key must change development mode。The entity economy needs the linkage between the,On the one hand,Enterprise from resource consumption type、Scale to innovation, a shift driven an expansionary,Rely on scientific and technological innovation、Market development,to“Smiling curve”Ends extend,Ascension unit added value of products。On the one hand,The government should increase investment,To create a better development environment,Including advancing 1650 metropolis construction,In metropolis、Platform to gather high-end elements,For the transformation and upgrading of enterprises create support conditions;Through the coastal industry、Airport economic zone、In the oujiang river estuary and the new platform construction,For the industry agglomeration build good environmental conditions;Increase efforts to enclose,Increase the land reclamation rebuilding efforts,For enterprise development provide elements security support;Great efforts to promote the governmental reform itself,To make a public service government,The transformation of the government to promote economic transformation。

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3、“五年左右让房价收入比回归到比较合理的区间” 3、“About five years, to let the housing price to income than return to more reasonable interval”

  问:温州的房价动辄两三万元一平方米,想融入这座城市真不容易。对降低房价有什么具体措施,能在多长时间里见效?

q:Wenzhou house prices penchant for two or three ten thousand yuan a square meters,Want to blend in the city is not easy。To lower the price of the house have anything specific measures,So long as effective?

  答:这是温州城市发展中一个非常严重的问题。前年温州的房价收入比达到28,远远高于国际公认的6至8的指标水平。老百姓不要说买房子,连做房奴的资格都没有。正是如此,温州出去的大学生不回温,外来人才难立足,人才流动上出现“逆差”。温州作为一个大都市,房子刚性需求很高,但有大量土地转而未供,没有形成住宅项目,导致房屋供给不足。需求大,供给少,加上一些投机者炒房,房价居高不下。解决这个问题,要坚决贯彻中央有关房地产调控的方针政策,坚决遏制投机行为,保证住房刚性需求;拉大城市框架,加大土地供给,建设配套设置,提高住房供给;通过村房两改,提高中低端房屋的供应;通过收入分配体制改革,提高工薪阶层百姓收入。相信在五年左右时间,会让房价收入比回归到一个比较合理的区间,老百姓能够买得起房。

a:This is the wenzhou city developing a very serious problem。The year before the house value income of wenzhou than to 28,Far higher than international recognized 6 to 8 index level。People don't say that buy a house,Even do for mortgage slave no。It is so,Wenzhou out of college students don't back to temperature,Foreign talent based on difficult,The flow of talent available“deficit”。Wenzhou as a big city,House needs a high rigidity,But a lot of land to not for,Not form a residential projects,In short supply of houses。Demand is big,Supply less,Plus some speculators ChaoFang,High house prices。Solve this problem,Must firmly implement the central related to real estate regulation policies,Resolutely curb speculation,Ensure that housing rigid demand;Widening city framework,Increase land supply,Supporting facilities set,Improve housing;Through the village room two change,Improve the supply of houses ZhongDiDuan;Through the income distribution system reform,Improve the working class people income。Believe that in five years time,Can let the housing price to income than return to a more reasonable interval,Common people can afford room。

  

4、“绿地2400公顷计划要抓落实” 4、“Green space 2400 hectares plan to grasps carries out”

  问:一些树种下去好像就没人管了,没多久就死掉,实在太浪费。有没有什么办法来减少和杜绝这种现象?今冬明春要新增2400公顷绿地,布局在哪里,是否夸大其辞?

q:Some species no one seems pipe down,Not long before they die,Really is a waste of。Is there any way to reduce and put an end to this kind of phenomenon?MingChun winter to increase 2400 hectares of green space,Layout where,Is exaggerated?

  答:对于绿化工程,我们对施工队伍都有合同规定,必须在两年内“包活”,所以这些工程中现在的死树必须在后面进行更换补种。我们加强数字城管,及时对那些管理、养护不到位提出整改。同时,加大对基层的绿化考核,每月考核排名公布,从而提高基层绿化养护的责任心以及工作投入力度。今冬明春我们准备建9个山地公园、占地面积1500公顷,打造100个滨河公园、占地500公顷,加上200公顷的三洋湿地公园和几个市级、区级公园还有200公顷,就构成了绿地2400公顷的计划。当然,光有计划不落实就是空话,所以把这些计划上图、上网公布,并落实专门责任人,四套班子都挂钩联系。我本人属牛,我就联系牛山公园,承诺今年年底牛山公园要初步建成向市民开放。

a:For greening projects,We all have to contract construction team,Must be in two years“Bag live”,So these engineering of the dead trees must now in the back for replacement reseed。We strengthen digital urban management,For those in time management、Maintenance is not in place puts forward the improvement。At the same time,To increase the green assessment,Assessment released in a month,So as to improve the virescence maintenance work responsibility and investment。MingChun for this winter we are going to build nine mountain park、Covering an area of 1500 hectares,Build 100 riverside park、Covers an area of 500 hectares,Plus 200 hectares of sanyo wetland park, and several city、The district park and 200 hectares,They form a green space 2400 hectares of plan。Of course,The light in a planned way not implement is empty talk,So these plan above、Released on the Internet,And carry out special responsibility,Four sets of group are hook contact。I belong to cow,I will contact NiuShan park,By the end of this year NiuShan commitment to park initially set up open to citizens。

  

5、“交通乱象必须严管,治乱当用重典!” 5、“Traffic mess shall have to,When used heavy revolution Canon!”

  问:这段时间路上拖车和罚款很多,但也不能一罚了事,其他各个方面的配套工作还要同步推进,像比较紧迫的停车难、断头路问题该如何解决?

q:This time the way trailer and fined a lot,But not a penalty settles,All other aspects of the supporting work and synchronized advancement,As more pressing parking、DuanTouLu how to solve the problem?

  答:温州交通问题,主要是因为先天不足。温州每百户拥有汽车数量全省最高,可城市建设“欠账”很多,人均道路面积只有杭州、宁波的一半。我们要拉大城市框架,加大基础设施建设投入的力度,加快推进公交体制改革,加大管理力度,“建环线、打卡口、接断头”以及加快停车设施,长短结合、远近结合来解决这个问题。对于交通陋习,我见过一张温州拥堵图:从高空拍下来的一个十字路口中间有个转盘,发生拥堵时大家就像蝗虫一样围绕这个中心转盘挤在当中,谁也不让谁,三个车道愣是开出六排车子来,抢道的结果是最后大家谁也走不了。这种交通乱象必须严管,治乱当用重典!只有严管才能让这些不太自觉的市民,养成良好的习惯和素养。

a:Wenzhou traffic problems,Mainly because congenital deficiency。Wenzhou per urban households have the highest number of cars,But the urban construction“following”many,Per capita roads area only hangzhou、Half of the ningbo。We want to widening city framework,Increase the strength of infrastructure investment,Speed up the bus system reform,Increase the strength of management,“Loop built、Punch mouth、Ends meet”And speed up the parking facilities,Accident combines、Combining near and far to solve this problem。For bad traffic,I've seen a wenzhou congestion figure:Take down from high above a cross between a turntable,Happen all the heavy like locusts in crowded around this center of rotary,Who also don't let who,Three lanes opened car to six rows leng,The result is finally getting everyone who go。This kind of traffic mess shall have to,When used heavy revolution Canon!Only then can let these shall not too conscious citizens,The good habit and accomplishment。

  

6、“温州人精神文化需要提升” 6、“Wenzhou people spiritual culture need to improve”

  问:外界有声音说温州是文化沙漠,温州人身上只有铜臭味,没有书香气。请问陈书记怎么看待这些说法,政府有什么有力举措来回应?

q:Outside a voice said wenzhou is as a cultural desert,Wenzhou man only copper bad smell,No ShuXiangQi。Excuse me ChenShuJi how look upon these statement,The government has strong measures to respond to what?

  答:改革开放年代,各地处于同样的宏观大环境,为什么温州人能够抓住机遇先富起来,最早走向全国,推动全国的市场经济发展?正是温州文化、温州人精神起了核心作用。面对当前宏观经济形势,温州人的精神文化需要提升。温州企业在市场经济高级阶段遇到的困难比其他地方要大、要多,除了客观的环境条件和体制制度层面,也应该从自身的文化层面寻找一点根源。同时,媒体宣传也很重要,要做好对温州人和温州城市的宣传,给外界更多正面的温州文化形象。这也需要大家共同努力。

a:Reform and opening s,In the same macro environment around,Why wenzhou people can seize the opportunity to get rich,The earliest to the national,Promote the national market economic development?It is wenzhou culture、Wenzhou spirit of people up core role。Facing the current macroeconomic situation,Wenzhou people spiritual and cultural need to improve。Wenzhou enterprise in a market economy with the difficulties of advanced stage than other places to big、more,In addition to the objective environment condition and system level system,Should also from their own cultural level of the find a little root。At the same time,Media publicity is also very important,To do well to wenzhou city and wenzhou of propaganda,To the outside world more positive wenzhou cultural image。This also need efforts。

  

7、“请百姓监督花钱多效益差的"面子工程"” 7、“Please people money much benefit the poor supervision"Face engineering"”

  问:温州财政一年能用于投资的资金似乎很有限,靠什么来支持市域轨道交通等大项目的建设?若举债建设,将来会不会成为财政负担,最后变成老百姓买单?

q:Wenzhou financial year can be used in the capital investment seems to is very limited,Rely on what to support the urban rail transportation larger project construction?If the debt construction,The future will be won't be financial burden,Finally a common people buy?

  答:老百姓对公共品有着巨大需求,而我们的财政财力相对有限,以现代金融方式举债建设是政府在推进项目建设中一个重要举措。借钱关键在于想清楚怎么还,只要用于有产出效应的、有长远来源的投入,举债就不应是个问题。对重大项目,我们都有相应的测算。以轨道交通建设为例,本身有收费来源,可以作为今后偿债方式,开发沿线土地的升值收益也将作为建设资金来源之一。经测算,仅仅轨道交通场站上的物业开发,就可以基本筹集建设资本金。此外,温州市政府在全省负债率最低,政府在金融机构的融资占比远远低于全国平均水平,我们的举债仍在合理的负债水平区间内,还有较大空间。当然,我们坚决杜绝低水平的重复建设,和花钱很多、效益很差的“政绩工程”、“面子工程”,这也需要百姓监督。

a:Common people on the public has huge demand,And our financial money relatively limited,In modern financial leverage the way is the government building in advance the project construction in a important measures。The key is to want to know how to borrow money,As long as used to have the effect of output、Have long-term investment in source,Debt should not be a problem。For important projects,We all have the corresponding measure。On rail transit construction, for example,Itself has the charge source,Can debt as the future way,Development of land along the appreciation income will also serve as a source of capital construction。According to the calculation,Only rail transit stations on the property development,Can raise the basic construction of capital。In addition,Wenzhou municipal government in the lowest ratio,The government in the financial institutions of the financing than far below the national average,Our debt is still in the reasonable debt levels in the interval,And larger space。Of course,We will put an end to low levels of redundant construction,And spend a lot of、inefficient“Projects for political”、“Face engineering”,This also need the people supervision。

  

8、“拆违不存在讨价还价” 8、“CaWei does not exist a bargain”

  问:去年拆违声势很大、规模很大,今年声势有所减弱,违章反弹现象也有所增加,是不是“六先拆,违必拆”不搞了?如何防止违章乱象死灰复燃?

q:Last year CaWei great momentum、big,This year has weakened,Illegal rebound phenomenon also increases,is“Six down first,Violations will open”Don't make the?How to prevent illegal resurgent mess?

  答:违章是违法行为,是城市的“癌细胞”,违章不除,城市的转型发展就受阻。拆违是艰巨的,也是长期的、必然的,不存在讨价还价,也不存在“松一阵”。“违必拆,六先拆”是市委市政府的既定方针,必须一如既往、一以贯之地抓下去,直到违章基本消除。基层干部精力毕竟有限,所以工作存在阶段性特征,去年4月至10月集中拆违,此后至今年五六月是绿化好时期,因而拆绿结合、以绿促拆,现在是高温季节,新增绿化不太现实,所以又要开始推进今年的拆违。“违必拆,六先拆”要形成长效机制,所以今年不仅市区拆违,8个县市区也有1500万平方米的拆违任务。根据三年基本完成“六先拆”的目标要求,到明年年底,除了城中村农民的夹层违章,工业区里面没有占用公共空间的其他夹层、中间搭建、或占用公共空间的违章,都必须完成拆除。

a:Illegal is illegal behavior,Is the city“Cancer cells”,Violation not except,The transformation of city development is blocked。CaWei is difficult,Is long-term、inevitable,Does not exist a bargain,Also does not exist“Loose a”。“Violations will open,Six down first”Is the established policy of the municipal party committee,Must continue、Catch up on land,Until the illegal basically eliminated。Grassroots cadres energy limited after all,So in phases,Last April to October CaWei concentration,Since then the year to June or may is green good period,So open with green、To promote and green,Now is the high temperature season,New green is not very practical,So began promoting the CaWei this year。“Violations will open,Six down first”To form long-term effective mechanism,So this year not only CaWei downtown,8 a wing also with 15 million square meters of CaWei task。According to the basic three years to complete“Six down first”Goal request,By the end of next year,In addition to the city of interlayer by illegal,Industrial zone did not take up public space inside the other sandwich、Build among、Or take up public space construction,All must complete demolished。

  

9、“塘河必须在这代人手里治好” 9、“In liantang river must be the generation hand healed”

  问:现在河道淤积、侵占用现象非常突出,有的河段甚至成了垃圾河。有什么举措能尽快改变现状,真正还河于民?

q:Now longyangxia、Occupy with outstanding phenomenon,Some even became a river garbage river。What measures can change the situation as soon as possible,Real also river in the people?

  答:温瑞塘河现状确实令人痛心。它是在这一代人手里污染的,必须在这代人手里把它治好,加大塘河治理力度是各级党委政府一项非常重要的工作。治理塘河要从根子抓起,今后几年主要有四项工作:一是沿岸拆违建绿,使违法排污暴露无遗;二是截污纳管,到后年年底,在城市管网规划建设区范围内100%实现污水集中收集,并在污水处理后全部实现达标排放;三是加大城中村改造力度,减少污水垃圾来源;四是对违法排污实施“零容忍”,最终实现“三游五要”的目标。

a:Wen ruitang river situation really is painfully。It is in the hand of a generation of pollution,Must be in the generation hand it healed,Increase the liantang river regulation is the party committees at all levels of government is an important work。Governance liantang river from source to grab,In the next few years there are four main job:One is the coast CaWei built green,Make illegal dredge completely exposed;Two is to cut pollution nanotubes,To the end of the same,In the urban pipeline planning JianSheOu range 100% realize on sewage collection,And in the waste water treatment all realize after standards;Three is to increase urban village reconstruction efforts,Reduce waste water source;4 it is to illegal dredge implementation“Zero tolerance”,Finally realize“Three swim five to”goal。

  

10、“结合最近实践提升应急预案” 10、“Combined with recent practice ascension emergency plan”

  问:市政府网上的铁路行车应急预案制定时间在2007年,动车开通后该预案没有改,动车事故一年后该预案依旧没改,请对此作出评论。

q:The city government on the net of a railway traffic contingency planning time in 2007,Move the car after opening the plan did not change,Move the car accident a year later the plan still didn't change,Please comment。

  答:动车未开通时,我的前任已经制定这样一个预案。所以去年“7·23”动车事故发生后,我们能在这个预案的指导下进行比较好的应对和处置。当然,再好的预案都不可能是完善的,现实情况非常错综复杂、千变万化,要根据事物的不断发展和应急事故处置过程中暴露的问题,对预案不断地修改完善和提升,以进一步提高应急处置能力。你提出这个问题非常好,我一定让有关部门根据最近这些实践,特别是去年动车事故来研究提升预案。谢谢!

a:Move the car not opening,My former has made such a plan。So last year“7 · 23”Move the car when the accident happened,Can we in this plan under the direction of good deal with and disposal。Of course,It is a good plan all can't be perfect,The reality is very intricate、protean,According to the development of the things and accident emergency disposal process of exposure,To constantly improve and modification plan ascension,To further improve the emergency response ability。You put forward this problem is very good,I must let the relevant departments according to the most recent of these practices,Especially car accident last year to move ascension plan。thank you!

  

11、“GDP落后是累积性问题” 11、“GDP is behind the accumulative problem”

  问:从前年开始,温州市的GDP一直落后于绍兴市,从去年43亿的落差到今年93亿的落差,有什么举措能够应对这个反转趋势?

q:From the year before,Wenzhou's GDP has been behind the shaoxing city,The gap in 4.3 billion from last year to 9.3 billion this year the gap,What measures can cope with the reverse trend?

  答:总量问题确实是一个问题,但总量不足直接原因还是一个投资问题。由于前些年整个温州的生产性投入、全社会固定资产投入相对缺乏,导致后面产出不足。在本世纪前十年,温州投资率只有33%,低于全省全国,长期的投资不足,带来累积生产能力、转型发展能力的欠缺。这个累积性问题,指望短期内逆转不现实。所以,改善投资环境,加大固定资产投资投入,特别是生产性投入,创新性、战略性新兴产业投入,是温州在整个“十二五”乃至“十三五”发展工作的重点。相信只要一以贯之地抓下去,这个问题一定会得到有效解决。

a:Total amount the problem really is a problem,But the quantity is not enough direct reason or a investment。Because the wenzhou's productive investment in previous years、The social fixed assets investments relative lack of,Cause behind insufficient output。In the first ten years,Wenzhou investment rate is only 33%,Below the national,Long-term investment insufficiency,Bring cumulative production ability、The lack of transition and development ability。The cumulative problem,Expect the short term reversal is not practical。so,Improve the investment environment,Increasing investment in fixed assets investment,Especially productive investment,innovative、Strategic emerging industry input,Wenzhou is in the whole“1025”And even“1035”The focus of the development。Believe that as long as a place to catch up on,This problem will be effectively solved。

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