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酒痴吐槽酒企生产环节 详述白酒可能添塑过程--亲民维稳网络舆情监测室
2012-11-26

  从酒鬼酒被曝塑化剂超标,白酒“添加”塑化剂的风波至今仍未停息。

From the drunkard wine be exposed to the plasticizing agent exceed bid,liquor"add"Plasticizing agent of the storm is still not cease.

  在媒体曝光之后,质检、卫生等相关部门经过调查之后确认,酒鬼酒等部分白酒产品中的确含有塑化剂成分。接着,中国酒业协会相关负责人也在接受媒体采访时承认:过去的白酒产品中确实含有塑化剂。

In the media after exposure,Quality inspection/Public health and other relevant departments after investigation later confirmed,Drunkard wine part such as liquor products indeed contain plasticizing agent composition.then,China's wine industry association and the relevant person in charge, when being interviewed by the media admit:The past liquor product really do contain plasticizing agent.

  然而,一个公众关注的深层疑问至今始终没有解开:那就是包括酒鬼酒在内的白酒的生产过程究竟是怎样的,塑化剂又是在哪些环节中跑进白酒中去的?

however,A public concern of the deep questions so far has not untie:It is including the drunkard wine, liquor production process what is what kind of,Plasticizer is in which links to run into the liquor?

  对这一业内人士讳莫如深的问题,本报记者采访了熟知酒企内部生产流程的“酒痴”王为。他用亲身酿制和家藏酱香型白酒的生产流程,详述白酒可能的“添塑”过程。

To this the personage inside course of study to keep secret problem,Our reporter interviewed known as wine enterprises internal production process"Wine chi"The king made.He produced by home and hidden maotai-flavor liquor production process,Expatiate liquor possible"Add plastic"process.

  接受采访前,王为首先声明:他与酒鬼酒企业无关,既不是酒厂的托,也不是为塑化剂辩护,而是出于一个“酒痴”对白酒生产工艺的了解,公开一些业内真相,希望澄清某些传闻。

Before the interview,The king for first statement:He has nothing to do with alcoholic liquor enterprise,Neither brewery holder,Nor for plasticizer defense,But for a"Wine chi"On liquor production process understanding,Open some truth in the industry,Hope to clarify some rumours.

  经历 experience

  “商品酒有时买不到真酒” "Commodity wine sometimes can't buy true wine"

  亲自酿制家藏酱香白酒 Produced in home very hidden liquor

  王为说,自己的最大爱好之一,就是收藏和把玩白酒,家中收藏的各式国内名酒多达2吨。用他的话说,他是那种“闻见糟子味就兴奋的主儿”。

The king said to,One of his biggest hobby,Is the collection and playing with liquor,Home collection of all kinds of domestic wines as many as 2 tons.In his words,He is the kind"Very bad fruit flavour is excited namely advocate".

  “我是喜欢喝好酒的人,最贵的白酒,全国各地酒厂的‘作品’,我全都收藏齐了。”王为说。

"I like to drink good wine,The most expensive liquor,All parts of the country of the brewery‘works’,I collect all together."The king said to.

  他指着办公室内的一个装有从茅台到郎酒等各色名目的酒柜对记者说:“这里的酱酒只是一小部分,很多都是世家藏酒,一瓶就得上万。”

He pointed at the office with a from maotai to coordination, etc all kinds of name purpose wine told reporters:"The sauce is only a small part of the wine,Many are family Tibetan wine,A bottle of have to tens of thousands of."

  不过,收藏是一码事,喝不喝得起又是另一码事。“商品酒有时买不到真酒。”王为介绍,喝到真酒并不是件很容易的事儿。他所说的“商品酒”,指的是市场上流通的酒。

but,Collection is matter,Drink don't drink up is another matter."Commodity wine sometimes can't buy true wine."The king is introduced,Drink to true wine is not a easy thing.What he said"Commodity wine",Refers to the market circulation of wine.

  为喝到真酒、好酒,他自己驱车翻山越岭去过大大小小20多个酒厂搜罗好酒,和各个门派的宗师套关系、学手艺。“好酒都在山沟子里。底盘那么高的越野车,都磕得不像样。”王为说,他的“死党”酒友中,既有各酒类门派的宗师,也有最辛苦最累的“铲糟子”酒师。

For drink to true wine/Good wine,He drove up hill and down dale have been greatly small more than 20 distillery trawling good wine,And all the branches of guru set of relations/Learn craft."Good wine in the valley in the son.Chassis that high sports cars,Ke is not decent."The king said to,his"Sworn brother"Pot companion in,Both the wine affiliation guru,Also has the most hard the most tired"Shovel bad son"sommeliers.

  10年下来,王为从以前买坛装酒,到后来定制白酒,自己铲过糟子、踩过曲、润过粮、上过甑、烤过酒……最终,他按照最好的酿造工艺亲身参与酿制,拥有家藏的酱香型白酒,名字极具个性就叫“王为家藏”。

10 years down,The king made from former buy jarred wine,To later custom liquor,His shovel a bad child/Stepped on a song/Embellish a food/On retort/Roasted wine...finally,He was in the best brewing process produced to participate in,Have the house hidden maotai-flavor liquor,Name extremely personality called"WangWeiGu hidden".

  此外,王为还摸索各种鉴识方法,除了酒花、酒线品鉴法,还有吃糖品鉴法、“裸体”品鉴法。不过,这么多的品鉴方法,都无法回避一个事实——白酒里跑进塑化剂,到底是哪些环节可能出了问题?

In addition,The king is still groping various appreciation method,In addition to hop/Wine line appraisal method,And sugar appraisal method/"naked"Appraisal method.but,So many appraisal method,Could avoid a fact, the liquor ran into the plasticizing agent,Exactly is which links may be out of the question?

  昨天,央视《每周质量报告》的最新报道提供了一种解释,称目前酒鬼酒公司“锁定”了可能肇事的三大元凶,一个是自动包装线上的小塑料管,另一个是塑料瓶塞,还有一个是2011年包装车间整修时,临时使用过的一段长达10米的塑料输酒管。

yesterday,CCTV[Weekly quality report]The latest reports provide an explanation,Say the current drunkard wine company"lock"The possibility of accident three major culprit,One is to be automatic packaging line of small plastic pipe,The other is a plastic bottle stopper,And still another is 2011 packing workshop when renovation,Temporary used a long reach 10 meters of plastic lose wine tube.

  “确有可能。”王为说,他用自己曾经的“铲糟子”经历,把事实客观讲述出来。“据我所知,有六个可能环节。”

"May have."The king said to,He once"Shovel bad son"experience,Objective the facts about out."As far as I know,There are six may link."

  质疑 question

  六个环节疑似“添塑” 从酿造到保存都有嫌疑 The six links suspected"Add plastic" From brewing to save all have suspected

  环节1: Link 1:

  发酵——窖顶覆盖塑料布 Fermentation - pit top cover plastic cloth

  王为介绍,酒厂将小麦等粮食“熟化”,然后把酒曲做好一块儿下窖。这一系列过程与木头、泥土打交道,见不到塑料。下完窖后需要把窖顶封住,最上面一般是用稻壳与泥土的垫子。“在高温发酵过程中,有些酒厂会在上面盖一层塑料布,虽然没有直接接触酿酒原料,这仍是第一个可疑环节。”王为说。

The king is introduced,Brewery will and wheat grain"curing",Then the distiller's yeast to XiaJiao together.This a series of process and wood/Dealing with soil,See plastic.After pit needs after the pit roof seal,The top is generally use rice hull and soil cushion."In high temperature fermentation process,Some brewery will cover with a layer of plastic cloth,Although there is no direct contact with liquor-making raw materials,This is still the first suspected links."The king said to.

  环节2: Link 2:

  烤酒——酒甑出酒塑料管 Roast wine - wine retort out wine plastic pipe

  酒糟装甑、锅炉开动、烤酒(蒸馏出酒)时,酒甑馏酒出酒口的那根管子,可能是塑料的。“这根管子作用就是接酒方便。这是白酒真正与塑料接触我能想到的第一个环节。”王为说, “不过,我见过的酒厂,现在已经都改了。”

Vinasse loading retort/Boiler run/Roast wine(Distillation wine)when,Wine retort distillation wine out wine mouth of the pipes,May be plastic."This pipe role is to meet wine is convenient.This is really liquor with plastic contact I can think of the first link."The king said to, "but,I have seen the distillery,Now has all changed."

  环节3: Link 3:

  接酒——接酒使用塑料桶 After wine - joint wine use plastic drum

  “这个环节,我认为很关键。因为桶大,而且馏出来的酒是有温度的,酱香温度高一些,兼香和浓香温度低一些。”王为说,一年半之前,全国绝大多数酒企用的都是塑料桶。

"This link,I think that is the key.Because large bucket,And boiling out wine is a temperature,Some very high temperature,And sweet and aroma low temperature some."The king said to,A year and a half before,The national most wine enterprises are used in plastic drum.

  “为什么?你去过酒厂就知道,不管多好的酒,酿造的时候,铲糟子的酒师都是极为辛苦的体力加脑力加经验的劳动。浑身糟子味,洗都洗不掉。所以,他们的工具必须皮实、简单、耐用、方便。”王为说,更重要的是,酒出来定级,是通过看酒花、看酒体来判断的,所以,以往选用透光干净且不怕摔的塑料桶。

"why?Have you ever been to brewery will know that,No matter how good wine,Brewing time,Shovel bad fruit wine division is a hard physical and mental experience and the labor.Was bad fruit flavour,Wash wash not to drop all.so,Their tools must be sturdy/simple/durable/convenient."The king said to,More important is,Wine out grading,By reading hop/See body to judgment,so,Ever choose pervious to light clean and not afraid of fall plastic bucket.

  “即便这样,从一年半之前开始,规范的酒厂还是纷纷把包括接酒桶在内的塑料一网打尽了,全改为不锈钢桶。”王为坦言。

"Even if such,From a year and a half before,Standard distillery still have the including joint bucket, the plastic articles,All stainless steel barrel instead."The king said to.

  环节4: Link 4:

  输酒——泵接使用塑料管 Lose wine - pump joint use of plastic pipe

  “这里也是一个关键,因为酒厂灌装区面积不同、输酒距离不同,管子长短也不一样。我见过最长的有二十来米,短的有十来米。”王为透露,酒厂的人都知道,本来柔软有弹性的塑料管,用半年就变硬了。他认为,这或许真的就是塑化剂的来源之一。

"Here is a key,Because distillery filling area different/Lose wine different distance,Pipe length is different also.I have seen the longest have 20 meters,Short have ten to m."The king said to,Distillery people all know,Was soft and elastic plastic pipe,With half an year becomes hard.He thinks,Perhaps this is really one of the source of the plasticizer.

  环节5: Link 5:

  储酒——酒坛塑料膜封口 Store wine - JiuTan plastic film sealing

  酒,馏出来之后,要在陶坛里窖藏、老熟,大缸封口时,有些酒厂会用塑料薄膜。

wine,Boiling out after,To the altar in ceramics in pits/The old familiar,Large cylinder seal when,Some brewery will use plastic film.

  “陶坛里的酒不可能灌得太满,一般会留有一尺左右高的空间,就算是用塑料薄膜,可能性也不大。”王为说。

"Ceramic in the altar wine may not feel too full,General can keep a foot or so high space,Even with plastic film,Possibility is not large also."The king said to.

  环节6: Link 6:

  瓶盖——大量采用塑料盖 Cap - a lot of plastic cover

  酒瓶盖现在大量采用塑料盖,这也是一个塑料源。

Now a lot of JiuPingGai plastic cover,This is a plastic source.

  现场拆开一家国内知名酒厂的瓶盖,王为向记者讲述其中构造。“据我所知,好几个酒厂的研究检测结果,都没有发现瓶盖有塑化剂析出。”王为认为,如果有,酒厂肯定不会为省这点儿钱而不更换。

Field apart a domestic famous brewery bottle cap,For the king to the reporters about the structure."As far as I know,Several distillery research test results,All found no cap have plasticizer precipitation."For the king that,If there is,Distillery won't for province this some money and not change.

  “白酒企业绝对没有故意添加塑化剂——因为没用。”王为说,懂酒的人都知道,邻苯二甲酸酯不会提升白酒的任何优点、口味和质量。“塑化剂的发现,其实是白酒业的一大丑闻。不过,这个丑闻是早在2011年就已经被业内发现了。”他说。

"Liquor enterprise absolutely not deliberately add plasticizer -- because useless."The king said to,The person that knows wine all know,Phthalic acid ester will not increase liquor any advantage/Taste and quality."The discovery of plasticizer,Liquor-making industry is actually a big scandal.but,The scandal is as early as in 2011 have been found in the industry."He said.

  追问 cross-examine

  白酒含塑早已发现 Liquor including plastic had already found

  遮掩否认欲盖弥彰 Cloak deny shattered glass

  王为解释道,白酒的感官指标要求,第一就是要求无色、清亮、透明。“而塑化剂在饮料当中起乳化和均质的作用,这样会把产品变得比较模糊、浑浊。”

The king is explained,Liquor sensory index requirements,The first is to ask for colorless/clear/transparent."And plasticizing agent in the beverage of the emulsion and homogeneous effect,This will put the product becomes is more ambiguous/turbidity."

  据报道,去年5月我国台湾检出食品残留塑化剂成分后,中国酒业协会即对全国白酒产品塑化剂残留含量做了大量调研和查证工作,还与国家质检总局联合开展了白酒产品塑化剂残留检测,发现质量不过关的塑料输酒管、酒泵进出乳胶管等是导致白酒产品含有塑化剂的根本原因。

According to the report,Last may our Taiwan detection food residual plasticizer after composition,China's wine industry association is to the national liquor product plasticizer residual content to do a lot of research and verification work,Also and the state quality inspection administration jointly launched liquor product plasticizing agent residue detection,Found that low quality plastic lose wine tube/Wine pump in and out of emulsion pipe etc in liquor product contains the root cause of the plasticizer.

  今年8月20日,中国就业协会曾在《关于白酒产品塑化剂有关问题的说明》中指出,“全国白酒产品中基本上都含有塑化剂成分,最高2.32 mg/kg,最低0.495 mg/kg,平均0.537 mg/kg。其中高档白酒含量较高,低档白酒含量较低。”

On August 20,,Employment of Chinese association was in[About liquor product plasticizing agent of the relevant questions of the instructions]that,"The national liquor products basically contain plasticizing agent composition,A maximum of 2.32 mg/kg,Lowest 0.495 mg/kg,An average of 0.537 mg/kg.The high-grade liquor content is higher,Low-grade liquor content is low."

  酒企在一年半前就发现白酒产品有塑化剂残留?没错。

Wine enterprises in a year and a half ago found liquor products are plasticizing agent residue?That's right.

  “从发现到整改,那时我就在酒厂。”王为表示,自己亲身经历了“钢改”的过程,且有照片为证。

"From found rectification,Then I will in the brewery."The king said to,Your own personal experience"Steel change"process,And as shown in the photo.

  “白酒中发现塑化剂,其实源自业内人士的好奇。”王为说,台湾检出食品残留塑化剂成分后,当时国内某大学教授突发奇想——白酒有没有可能超标呢?“拿某品牌白酒一测,奇怪地发现:超标!再拿某川酒一测,发现,也超标!选了很多的白酒样品,都一样。”

"Found in liquor plasticizing agent,Actually derived from the curiosity of the personage inside course of study."The king said to,Taiwan detection food residual plasticizer after composition,When a domestic university professor abrupt fantasy - liquor is it possible? Exceed bid?"Take a brand liquor a test,Strange found:overweight!Take a sichuan wine a test,found,Also exceeds bid!Taking a lot of liquor samples,Are all the same."

  “马上,各地技术监督局谈虎色变,担心丑闻被曝光出来。从那时开始,但凡规范些的酒企,全部开始‘钢改’(不锈钢改造)。凡是能见到塑料的,全都换了。”王为说,一个月的时间,全改完了。“‘钢改’之后的酒,你随便测,仁怀、泸州、宜宾的酒,都没问题。”

"immediately,All 谈虎色变 bureau of technical supervision,Worry about scandal was exposure out.Since then,In every case regulate some wine enterprises,All began to‘Steel change’(Stainless steel transformation).Those who can see plastic,All changed."The king said to,A month's time,All change over."‘Steel change’Wine after,You literally measuring,renhuai/luzhou/Yibin wine,All right."

  那么,为什么有的酒今天还能检出超标塑化剂?记者问。

so,Why do some wine today still can checkout overweight plasticizing agent?The reporter asked.

  “老实说,某些酒企还有‘钢改’前的部分库存。因此,不排除这部分库存还能检出塑化剂。”王为说。

"To be honest,Some wine enterprises and‘Steel change’Former part of the inventory.therefore,Do not rule out the part of the inventory can checkout plasticizing agent."The king said to.

  “作为一个白酒消费者,我认为酒企应该用更透明来应对事件,而不是遮掩、否认错误。公众其实并不是仅想知道真相,而更期待的是一种负责任的态度。”王为说。

"As a white wine consumers,I think wine enterprises should use more transparent to deal with events,Not cover/Denied error.The public is not only want to know the truth,And more looking forward to is a responsible attitude."The king said to.

  “媒体曝光之后,本来是一个应该坦诚面对的问题。酒企却用很多手段遮盖一个不需要遮盖的事情。”他问:“白酒企业为什么不直接告诉公众,白酒如果故意添加塑化剂会出现什么结果?为什么不在第一时间直接把生产流程的所有环节向公众公开?”

"Media exposure after,It is a problem facing should be honest.Wine with a lot of means but to cover a do not need to cover things."He asked:"Liquor enterprise why does not directly tell the public,Liquor if deliberately add plasticizer will appear what results?Why is not the first time direct production process of all links to the public?"

  “这是行业的‘潜规则’所付出的应有代价。”王为说。记者 丁文亚

"This is the industry‘Latent rules’The price paid due."The king said to.Reporter DingWenYa


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