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文科生就业率普遍偏低 教授称“贻害社会”--亲稳网络舆情监控室
2012-08-13

文科生就业率普遍偏低 教授称“贻害社会” 有网友觉得,就业难是所有大学生的现状,和文科理科没有关系。 新华社发 Netizens think,Difficult employment is all of the present situation of college students,And liberal arts science no relationship。 The xinhua news agency hair

  前段时间,微博网友“太蔟”发微博:“朋友的女儿学文科,高考分报人大可选个好专业,报北大只能选个差专业。这姑娘不知怎么着了魔,一定要上北大,在家人朋友的苦苦劝说下,最终还是选了报北大历史系。一个文科傻妞就此诞生。天作孽,犹可违;自作孽,不可活。”之后,“太蔟”发出了更激烈的言辞:“文史哲是文不聪的渊薮,从那里出来的人多半不具有科学世界观,反科学、爱哲学、挺中医,将贻害社会。”近段时间,高考录取工作正紧张进行中,这条微博的出现引发网友们批评、质疑、谴责甚至谩骂。据悉,“太蔟”的实名认证信息为哈尔滨工业大学没“坦途”,数学薄弱的文科生跨专业考研难。文科毕业生的就业“困”境,引发了网友们的担忧和热议。

Some time ago,Micro bo net friend“Too ball of”FaWei bo:“Friend's daughter learn liberal art,High test scores for optional a good professional National People's Congress,Peking University can choose for bad professional。The girl, don't know how to wear the demon,Must the Peking University,In the family and friends for the persuasion,Eventually chose for Peking University history department。A liberal arts silly girl born from。Day iniquity,Can violations of;frankensteins,Shall not live。”after,“Too ball of”A more violent words:“WenShiZhe is not the origin of the aristocracy,Out there were those of do not have scientific world outlook,antiscience、Love philosophy、's traditional Chinese medicine,Will jeopardize social。”Nearly time,The university entrance exam the enrollment is nervous,The micro bo's article appeared trigger net friends criticism、questioned、Accused of abuse or even。It is reported,“Too ball of”The new authentication information for Harbin industrial university didn't“Level road”,Mathematics weak of liberal arts cross major to one's deceased father grind difficult。Arts graduate employment“trapped”territory,Triggered a net friends concerns and hot debate。

  

观点一: Viewpoint a:

  

就业难是因为不专业 The difficult employment is because not professional

  不够“专业”、容易被“替代”是文科生就业的最大“硬伤”,文科生就业难是因为“没有专业”,这种说法的支持率很高。网友“晓风”说,文科专业覆盖面大但是不够“专”,很多企业都有文科类岗位,如文秘、文案、客服等,这给应届大学生提供了很大的就业平台,但这些岗位起点低、薪水少,上升空间不高。

Not enough“professional”、Easy to“alternative”Is the biggest arts living employment“took”,The school of arts living difficult employment is because“No professional”,This is a high approval ratings。the“XiaoFeng”said,Liberal arts coverage big but not enough“designed”,Many enterprises have the majority of jobs,As secretary、copywriter、Customer service, etc,The fresh college students to provide a large employment platform,But these post low starting point、Earn less,Rising space is not high。

  网友“绿水”是一家外企的人事主管,他说,企业都想以最小成本录用能使公司获得最大效益的毕业生,不够“专业”、容易被“替代”的文科生很难是他们的“首选”。

the“Green water”Is a foreign company personnel supervisor,He said,Enterprise all want to with the minimum cost can make the company to obtain employment of graduates maximum benefit,Not enough“professional”、Easy to“alternative”Of liberal arts is difficult to them“preferred”。

  文科重理论,理科重实践,这是大家对文理科的普遍印象。网友“紫陌”觉得理科生就业最大优势是能迅速“上位”,“学计算机的稍加培训就能上岗;学机械的多拿些证书也能入职;学纯物理、化学、生物这类的,大多考研,读研期间跟导师做课题,毕业后很快就能上手。”

Heavy theory of liberal arts,Science heavy practice,This is everyone to the arts and sciences in general。the“Purple specifically”The biggest advantage is living think employment can quickly“upper”,“Learn the computer training slightly to mount guard;Learn mechanical get a certificate can also into the job;Learn pure physical、chemical、Biological this kind of,Mostly one's deceased father grind,During grinding mentor do with subject,After the graduation will soon handcuffed。”

  

观点二: View two:

  

最终拼的是真本事 Finally the spell is true ability

  也有网友觉得,就业难是所有大学生的现状,和文科理科没有关系,关键是要有颗“奋斗的心”。网友“ORACLE”就“吐槽”说,古代也没有分文理科还不是照样有著名的数学家、哲学家、诗人?其实,就业拼的是“真本事”,是你的学业功底、务实精神和择业观念。网友“中国心”说得很实在,专业功底深厚的学生可以读研读博作进一步研究,大多数到不了这个“金字塔尖”的,不妨务实一点,专心做事才是“硬道理”。此外,还要有良好的就业心态。

Also netizens think,Difficult employment is all of the present situation of college students,And liberal arts science no relationship,The key is to be stars“Struggle of heart”。the“ORACLE”it“Vomit slot”said,Ancient also out of science is not so famous mathematician、philosopher、The poet?In fact,Employment spell is“made”,Is your academic background、Pragmatic spirit and their ideas。the“Chinese heart”Said it was,Professional skills of the students can read deep study bo further,Most to this“Pointed pyramid”of,Might as well pragmatic point,Concentrate on doing nothing is“Hard truth”。In addition,Must also have good employment psychology。

  

他们的找工故事:路途虽艰辛 结果还不错 They work for the story:Though the hard way is good

  主人公:赵同学 江西某大学2008级新闻采编与制作专业

hero:ZhaoTongXue jiangxi university level 2008 news editors and to make major

  赵同学是一名专科毕业生,他在大三的时候就考虑着想要专升本以提升自己的学历,但是迫于家里的经济条件,他只能无奈地选择了工作。2011年 10月底,中国水利水电第五工程局到他们学校招聘,他拿着自己积累的文学作品去应聘,在200多名应聘者中过五关斩六将拿到了该国企的OFFER,签了合约之后,HR告诉他拿到毕业证之后就可以去报到。在长达10个月等待中,赵同学找到了他的第一份实习工作网络编辑,试用期的工资是1200元。由于他对网络比较感兴趣,加上学习刻苦,很快就对网络编辑的工作上手了,两个月的编辑工作让他熟悉了该行业,之后又转到市场部做客户开发的工作。毕业后,赵同学如期到国企报到,但因为没有背景而被分到工地上做与新闻专业毫不相关的质检工作,于是他决定离开,跟一个朋友自主创业做网站,由于各方面的原因,网站在15天内上线就宣告失败了。迫于生活的压力,赵同学进入电视台做视频编导,工作了2个多月之后,他发现尽管工作与专业对口,但他并不喜欢这种工作氛围,于是他又跳槽了,成为一名报社的摄影记者,月薪3000元,这回他满意了。

ZhaoTongXue is a specialized subject graduates,In his junior year will consider to consider in order to improve their degree rise only this,But under home economic conditions,He reluctantly choose the work。The end of October 2011,China's water conservancy and hydropower fifth period to their school recruitment,He took his accumulation of literary works for a job,In the more than 200 candidates in the GuoWuGuan ZhanLiuJiang got the OFFER of state-owned enterprises,After signed a contract,HR told him after the diploma will be able to go for registration。For 10 months of waiting,ZhaoTongXue found his first practice work network editor,The probation period salary is 1200 yuan。Because of his network is interested,And studying hard,Soon the web editor work started,Two months of editing let him be familiar with the industry,After he turned to the Marketing Department to do customer development work。After graduation,ZhaoTongXue to report on state-owned enterprises,But because there is no background and were assigned to the construction site and the press had nothing to do professional quality work,So he decided to leave,With a friend to do their own website,For several reasons,Web site in 15 days online fizzle。Under the pressure of the life,ZhaoTongXue into television do video director,Work 2 many months later,He found that although work and professing,But he didn't like the work environment,So he and a new job,Be a newspaper photographer,3000 yuan a month,This time his satisfaction。

  主人公:沈同学,湖北科技大学2008级广播电视新闻学专业

hero:Shen students,Hubei university of science and technology level 2008 radio and television journalism major

  沈同学在今年2月中旬到北京进行了第一次面试,由于爱好摄像,他面试的职位是一家文化传媒公司的摄像,而且很顺利地谋得了第一份工作。因为北京消费高,他的工资只有3000元左右,所以他打算先依靠第一份工作解决吃饭问题,同时向其他企业投简历。在这期间,沈同学也去了各种招聘会,比如:农展、国展、中关村等大中型的招聘会,可是这些招聘会大多数的招聘职位都被销售抢尽风头,好不容易发现有传媒公司在招聘了,但是招聘职位非文稿则策划。

Shen students in middle of February this year to Beijing was the first interview,For love camera,His interview is a cultural media company position of the camera,And smoothly succeeded in getting the first job。Because Beijing high consumption,His pay is only 3000 yuan,So he plans to rely on the first job solving problems to eat,At the same time other enterprise to resume。In this period,Shen students also went to the various fair,For example:NongZhan、ongoing、Zhongguancun, large and medium-sized of recruitment,But these recruitment most jobs are sales grab limelight,Very not easy to find a media company in recruitment,But the job is the draft plan。

  在招聘会上,沈同学最大的感触是:想要在北京文职类比较好的公司谋得一个好的职位,名牌大学的学生就会有明显的优势。如果是一般大学的学生,即便是有倾向于技术的文科生,也会由于专业所限或者技术学习不深入不熟练而被拒之门外。

In the recruitment of the meeting,Shen students the touch of the largest is:Want to be in Beijing civilian class good company get a good job,Famous university students will have a clear advantage。If is general university students,Even if there are tend to technology of liberal arts,Also because professional limited or technology doesn't study deeply not skilled in and was shown the door。

  

相关数据 Related data

  

文科就业率普遍偏低 Liberal arts generally very low employment rate

  根据中国社科文献出版社出版的《2012年中国大学生就业报告》显示,2011届本科毕业生半年后就业率最高的专业是工学,最低的是法学,文科类专业普遍在就业率中垫后;本科生毕业半年后月收入最高的是工学,为3297元,最低的是教育学,为2621元。

According to the Chinese social sciences documents publishing house《In 2012 China's college students employment report》shows,2011 university graduate employment after half an year is the highest professional technology,The lowest is law,Of liberal arts in the employment rate of professional common pads;Undergraduate graduation after half a year on the highest income is technology,For $3297,Is the lowest education,For $2621。

  根据教育部的统计数字显示,2002年时,全国普通高校共有理工类(理科、工科、农业、医学)本科毕业生393442人,文科类(哲学、文学、法学、教育、历史)本科毕业生144807人。而2010年时,全国普通高校理工类本科毕业生为1293114人,是2002年的3.28倍,文科类本科毕业生总数为751918人,是2002年的5.19倍。其中增速最快的是文学类,毕业生总数在2010年为487520人,是2002年77710人的6.27倍,增速远远超过理工类。就业最为困难的文科专业,却恰恰是学生增长幅度最高的专业。

The ministry of education figures show,In 2002,The national average college of science &engineering(science、engineering、agriculture、medical)Graduates of 393442 people,Of liberal arts(philosophy、literature、law、education、history)Graduates of 144807 people。In 2010,National ordinary university undergraduate course of science and engineering graduates for 1293114 people,3.28 times more than in 2002,The majority of graduates for a total of 751918 people,5.19 times more than in 2002。One of the fastest growth is literature,Total number of graduates in 2010 for 487520 people,Is 2002 in 77710 of 6.27 times,Far more than growth of science and engineering。The most difficult employment of the liberal arts,Just is the student growth rate the highest professional。

  

记者观察 Reporter observation

  

“贻害社会”之说太荒谬 “Jeopardize social”Say too ridiculous

  笔者对这位教授的言论表示质疑,为什么人家姑娘选择了北大历史系,就是“天作孽,犹可违;自作孽,不可活”?这“孽”从何处来?

The author of the professor's speech questioned,Why did others girl chose Peking University history department,is“Day iniquity,Can violations of;frankensteins,Shall not live”?this“sprouts”From where?

  任何专业的存在都是由社会的需要决定的,每一个专业都各有其特色,也都为社会的进步和发展提供了该专业方面的帮助。与大多数“挺文派”网友的观点一样,笔者也认为,选理科未必就一定好,选文科的未必就是“傻妞”,学文还是学理要看学生自己的喜好。当然,专业有热门和冷门之分,这也是应社会需求的一个区分罢了。只是依照“太蔟”的说法,学不了热门专业就成了“自作孽”,这难免有专业歧视的嫌疑。

Any professional existence is driven by the need of the society of the decision,Every professional each has its characteristics,For social progress and development provides the professional help。And most“Pretty bianconeri”Net friend viewpoint,The author also think,Choose science are not necessarily must be good,Choose the liberal arts are not necessarily“Silly girl”,Increasing or academic to see students oneself be fond of。Of course,Major has popular and unpopular cent,This is also the requirement of the society should be a distinction between them。Just follow“Too ball of”that,Learn popular major become“frankensteins”,It is hard to avoid the suspicion of professional discrimination。

  好一句“学文、史、哲专业贻害社会”,也不知文、史、哲专业给这位教授带来过什么心理阴影,使得这位教授如此贬低文、史、哲专业。君不见,历史上大名鼎鼎的科学家牛顿、爱因斯坦,他们都为人类科学发展作出了巨大的贡献,可他们也并不否认人文科学的存在。我们的人类文明需要靠文字记录传承,通过文字的记录,我们可以了解自己的历史,从历史中我们能悟出人类生存发展的规律,这就是哲学。或许,这么说有些肤浅,但是,文、史、哲这三类学科自始至终都是伴随着人类社会发展的,文、史、哲对于人类文明进步的推动作用是不容任何人否定的,对于文、史、哲贻害社会的说法,笔者实在难以认同。

A good“Realized the、history、Zhe professional leaving a legacy of society”,Also don't know the、history、Zhe professional to the professor had brought what psychology shadow,Make the professor so belittle wen、history、Zhe professional。Have you noticed that,History of the well-known scientists Newton、Einstein,They are all for human science development made tremendous contributions,But they also does not deny the existence of the humanities。Our human civilization to need to rely on written records inheritance,Through the text records,We can understand his own history,From history we can realize the law of development of human existence,This is the philosophy。perhaps,So some superficial,but,wen、history、The three kinds of zhe first with the subject for the development of human society,wen、history、Zhe for the progress of human civilization is not anyone negative role,For the、history、Zhe leaving a legacy of that society,The author really hard to agree。

  (记者李琼 校园通讯员冯淑怡)

(Reporter with you FengShuYi campus correspondent)



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