《中国经济周刊》记者 李妍 李勇｜两会现场报道

[China economic weekly]Reporter Li Yan li yong | two live coverage

　　他是一位副部长，被尊敬他的学生称为“黄老师”或“黄校长”，他亲自主刀为患者做过器官移植手术，也为网上流传的一篇帖子百感交集。

He is a deputy minister,Students respect him called"Miss huang"or"Yellow the principal",He is personally leading for patients underwent organ transplant surgery,Also feelings for a post on the Internet.

　　他就是全国政协委员、卫生部副部长黄洁夫，也是一位著名的肝胆外科专家。

He is a member of the CPPCC national committee/Deputy health minister huang jiefu,Is a famous expert in liver and gallbladder surgery.

　　3月4日，参加全国两会的黄洁夫接受了《中国经济周刊》记者采访，针对医疗卫生领域的诸多热点如器官移植、医疗改革、控烟等问题做出回应。

On March 4,To participate in national annual Huang Jiefu accepted[China economic weekly]reporters,Many hot spots on medical and health fields, such as organ transplant/Health care reform/The problem such as tobacco control to respond.

　　

器官捐赠制度今年推行全国 This year for the national organ donation system

　　在中国，器官移植手术一直面临困境，主因是可供移植的器官源匮乏。

In China,,Organ transplants have been facing a dilemma,Main reason is lack of source of organs available for transplant.

　　以前，器官移植的来源一直依赖死囚。但随着司法改革，死刑判决逐年减少，器官移植手术渐成“无源之水”。这样的背景下，甚至衍生出器官地下交易市场。

before,The source of the organ transplantation has been dependent on death row.But as the judicial reform,The death penalty reduces year by year,Organ transplant surgery gradually"Madrassa reflected".Under such background,Even organs are derived from the underground market.

　　如何让器官移植事业走出困境？是很多公众十分关心的问题。

How to make the organ transplant business out of the woods?Is a lot of the public are very concerned about the problem.

　　2月25日，卫生部和中国红十字会总会联合召开全国人体器官捐献工作视频会议，决定年底前，将器官捐献制度在全国推行。这也将是2010年器官捐献试点工作启动以来，首次将经验推向全国。

On February 25,,The ministry of health and Red Cross society of China united national human organ donation work video meeting,Decision before the end of the year,The organ donation system in the country.It would also be organ donation pilot work started in 2010,Will experience into the country for the first time.

　　在这次会议上，67岁的黄洁夫几度哽咽，“这个梦，凝聚着几代人的期望。今天我们展开器官捐献，为实现这个梦铺平了道路，指引了方向。”他说。

At this meeting,67 - year - old Huang Jiefu several degrees SOB,"It is a dream,Condensing generations of expectations.Today we launched an organ donation,Paved the way to realize this dream,To guide the direction of."He said.

　　采访中，黄洁夫告诉《中国经济周刊》，目前，公民自愿捐献相关工作已经全部铺开，正在以每天增加两例的速度增长。

In an interview,Huang Jiefu tell[China economic weekly],At present,Citizens all voluntary contributions related work has been rolled out,Is to increase the speed of growth in two cases every day.

　　黄洁夫的愿景是：阳光的、不违伦理的器官来源梦想变为现实，中国的移植医生可以正大光明、理直气壮地在国际舞台上发言，医生在做取器官手术的时候，心里很阳光、很自豪。

Huang Jiefu vision is:The sunshine/No violations of ethical organ source dream into a reality,China's transplant physicians can be legitimate/Rightfully on the international stage,The doctor take organs in surgery,The in the mind very the sunlight/Very proud.

　　“两年之后的今天，被老百姓拥护的器官捐献体系就会建设好。”这是黄洁夫心中的愿景。

"Two years later of today,By common people support organ donation system will be good."This is Huang Jiefu vision of the heart.

　　中国的器官捐献制度还不尽如人意，黄洁夫认为并不是因为中国人的文化传统落后，而是行政管理体制落后。

China's organ donation system is not perfect,Huang Jiefu think not because the Chinese cultural tradition behind,But administrative system lag behind.

　　“身体发肤受之父母，弃之不孝”。对这个阻碍器官捐献的传统理念，黄洁夫有自己的解读。他告诉记者，孔夫子讲弃之不孝，但用之却是大孝，使用它（器官）救人就是大孝。

"Body hair skin affected by the parents,Abandon unfilial".Traditional concept of the obstacles to organ donation,Huang Jiefu has his own interpretation.He told the reporters,Confucius spoke of unfilial,But with the filial piety,To use it(organ)Save is filial piety.

　　黄洁夫向记者透露，愿意捐赠器官的群体，现在不单包括学生，很多农民工、打工者也都愿意捐赠，领导干部们也在身体力行。比如，卫生部部长陈竺和中国红十字会总会会长华建敏都表态要填写器官捐献志愿书。黄洁夫自己早已填写了志愿书。

Huang Jiefu told reporters,Willing to donate organs in the group,Not only including the students now,A lot of migrant workers/Migrant workers are willing to donate,Leading cadres are physically.Such as the,Minister of health Chen zhu and President of Red Cross society of China hua jianmin said organ donation application to complete.Huang Jiefu oneself already filled out the application.

　　在器官移植工作中，会根据工作的具体环节来设置机构和职能。黄洁夫介绍，上游的器官捐献由红十字会负责，下游移植医院的监管由卫生行政部门负责，中游的器官获取和分配由红十字会和卫生行政部门一起负责。

In organ transplantation,Will work according to the specific link to set up the mechanism and function.Huang Jiefu introduction,Upstream of the organ donation is responsible by the Red Cross,Downstream transplant hospital is responsible for the supervision by the administrative departments of public health,Middle reaches of the organ procurement and distribution by the Red Cross and the health administrative department in charge together.

　　

控烟应侧重维护非烟民的权利 Tobacco control should focus on maintaining the rights of nonsmokers

　　

而不是强力让吸烟者戒烟 Rather than strong let smokers to quit

　　今天，公共场所有烟民吸烟的现象仍屡见不鲜。不少民众对国家控烟政策的效果提出疑问，“烟草院士”事件更是让社会对控烟政策颇有微词。

today,Some smokers smoke in public places is still common.Many people question the effect of national tobacco control policy,"Member of the tobacco"Event is to let society for tobacco control policies.

　　身为中国控烟协会会长，黄洁夫自然会被问起这个话题。

As China tobacco control association,Huang Jiefu naturally asked about this topic.

　　“控烟，是不是应该从我们的代表委员做起呢？”两会现场，有记者问。

"Tobacco control,Should start from our representatives?"Two meetings on site,A reporter asked.

　　黄洁夫直言，“并不想讲控烟”。他的观点是：“控烟在我们国家现在的社会经济发展阶段，是应该保护不吸烟的人不受二手烟危害的权利，而不是强力地让吸烟者戒烟。”

Huang Jiefu outspoken,"And don't want to speak to tobacco control".His view is that:"Tobacco control in our country now the social and economic development stage,Is supposed to protect non-smokers from second-hand smoke,Rather than strong smokers to quit smoking."

　　黄洁夫认为，应该把更多精力放在防止烟草对青少年的毒害上，使我们国家经济发展起来时，不要成为全世界烟民最多的国家。

Huang Jiefu think,Should put more effort in to prevent tobacco on juvenile mischief on,Make our country economic development,Don't become a country with the largest number of smokers around the world.

　　“这是实事求是，也是立足于现实的政策。我们现在不要过多地去干涉那些吸烟的人，吸烟不是吸毒，他吸烟有自己的原因，有些人工作压力特别大，就像医生中，也有很多抽烟的，其实医生很苦恼。”黄洁夫说。

"This is seeking truth from facts,Policy is based on the reality.Now we don't want to get involved in those who smoke too much,Smoking is not a drug,He smoking has its own reason,Some people work pressure particularly big,As a doctor in the,Also there are a lot of smoke,Actually the doctor very upset."Huang Jiefu said.

　　说起“烟草院士”，黄洁夫表示，自己从来不谴责吸烟者，对“烟草院士”也没谴责过。他觉得“烟草院士”可能是个好科学家，但他的研究和我国的烟草控制战略形成矛盾。

Speaking of"Member of the tobacco",Huang Jiefu said,Never condemned the smoker himself,for"Member of the tobacco"Also did not condemn.He felt"Member of the tobacco"It might be a good scientist,But he's research and China's tobacco control strategy form contradictions.

　　“如果这件事情影响到国家声誉，引起过多纠纷的话，我建议他不要这个院士头衔。”黄洁夫如是表示。

"If it affects the national reputation,Cause too much dispute,I advised him not to the title of academician."Huang Jiefu said.

　　

医改需要医生有积极性 Health care need a doctor to have enthusiasm

　　网络上流传广泛的一篇帖子《含泪十问卫生部部长》，是一位年轻医生所发，直陈医疗工作者在工作中的困境，包括医务人员的待遇、医患关系等诸多问题。这些也是当前医疗改革所涉及到的难题。

On the Internet, a wide range of a post[A tearful ten asked the minister of health],What is a young doctor,Straight Chen medical workers in difficulties in the work,Including medical staff treatment/The doctor-patient relationship, and many other problems.This is also a difficult problem in relating to the current health care reform.

　　黄洁夫告诉记者，自己已经看到了这“十问”，并向卫生部部长陈竺作了报告。他对“十问”百感交集。

Huang Jiefu told reporters,You have seen it"10 q",And made a report to the ministry of health minister Chen zhu.He told"10 q"Mixed feelings.

　　“我更多是一个老医生，想从一个医生的角度来回答这个年轻医生的‘十问’。十问部长的这位医生，情绪比较悲伤和无奈，如果我们的医改不能真正地发挥医务人员的作用，就不可能成功。”黄洁夫说。

"I more is an old doctor,Think from the perspective of a doctor to answer this young doctor‘10 q’.The doctor asked ten ministers,Mood is sad and helpless,If we cannot really play to the role of the medical staff of medical reform,Can not be successful."Huang Jiefu said.

　　“提出‘十问’的医生，他的问题确实很尖锐，但同时有些问题也很有启发性，必须要正视和正确回答。我认为这个问题很重要——怎么让这些医生，以积极的心态参加医改，把每个医生自己的人生追求的梦想扎根在中国梦之中。”黄洁夫告诉《中国经济周刊》。

"Put forward‘10 q’The doctor,His problem is really sharp,But at the same time some problems also is instructive,Must face up to and the correct answer.I think this problem is very important, how to let the doctor,With a positive attitude to health reform,Each doctor of his own life to pursue dreams take root in the Chinese dream."Huang Jiefu tell[China economic weekly].

　　关于医生的晋升体制，也是医务人员所关注的。一位医院院长就表示，现在有很多医生做手术非常好，但是因为缺乏科研论文，在晋升中就会遇到问题。这位院长建议，应该将医生分为科研型人才和临床型人才。

About the doctor's promotion system,Is also the concern of the medical staff.A hospital said,There are a lot of doctors to do surgery now is very good,But because of the lack of research papers,Will encounter problems in the promotion.The dean of the proposal,The doctor should be divided into several talents and clinical type talents.

　　在两会现场，《中国经济周刊》记者将这个问题抛给黄洁夫，他回答道：“作为医生来说，不管是哪方面的人才，其天职是治病救人。如果生硬地分为科研型和临床型，在操作上可以，但从医学文明上来说不合适。”

At the scene of the two sessions,[China economic weekly]Reporters will throw this question Huang Jiefu,He replied:"As a doctor,,Whether what kind of talent,Its duty is saving lives.If stiffly divided into cu and clinical type,Can be in operation,But from a medical civilization is not fit in."

　　

网络热帖：含泪十问卫生部部长 Network ReTie:A tearful ten asked the minister of health

　　1.我们行业是服务行业吗？如果是，那我们为什么不能追求利益最大化？

1. Our industry is a service industry?If it is,That why we can't pursue benefit maximization?

　　2.您的工资从哪里拿的，您又知道我们临床一线的工资从何而来，如今的医院没有不搞科室核算的，您给我们发工资了吗？

2. Where did you pay with,You know we are come from clinical first-line wages,Today's hospital no accounting department,You pay to us?

　　3.医患关系紧张是由于我们沟通不够，您是不是希望全体医护人员都练就如簧巧舌，比如是政客和律师？

3. The tense doctor-patient relationship is because our communication was not enough,Are you hope all staff practice such as reed qiao tongue,Such as politicians and lawyers?

　　4.您如果在常年的超时超负荷低工资工作情况下能保持好心情好态度吗？

4. If you under the condition of perennial of low-wage work overtime overtime to keep a good mood good attitude?

　　5.您到北京以外的地级以下医院去看了吗？

5. You to Beijing to ground level below the outside of the hospital to see?

　　6.卫生部到底做了些什么事情？

6. The ministry of health, did some what things?

　　7.医生受劳动法保护吗？如果是，那么休息日查房加班，凌晨打车到医院看急诊您给加班费及打车费了吗？

7. Doctors are protected by labor law?If it is,So rest day overtime patient rounds,Early in the morning take a taxi to the hospital to see emergency you call overtime and the fare?

　　8.医疗市场混乱，一些大款到处开医院，广告骗得老百姓晕天晕地，同卫生部的离退休人员就没干系吗？

8. Medical market chaos,Some big money everywhere on the hospital,Dizzy dizzy day advertising and deceived people,With the ministry of health of the retired people can't do?

　　9.您说医院先救人后收钱，您知道不知道每年有多少恶意逃费和欠费发生？这笔花费是您给还是民政局付？

9. You said the hospital to save money,You know I don't know how many malicious escape every year to expend and overdue bills?The cost is you pay or the civil affairs bureau?

　　10.医患关系紧张，是由医生负主要责任吗？与医疗事故处理条例没有干系吗？

10. The doctor-patient relationship nervous,Is mainly responsible for the doctor?With the medical accident treatment act without hook?