张同道 ZhangTongDao【北京师范大学艺术与传媒学院教授、博士生导师，纪录片中心主任】：我非常荣幸进入教育行业，其实这一辈子都在学校，让我发现教育，尤其儿童方面的教育还是从我的孩子读书开始，从06年我下决心知道一下孩子们怎么想问题？怎么感受这个世界的？我突然发现我不了解我的孩子，因为那时候他4岁，有很多行为我无法解决，到现在整整拍了六年，拍了18个孩子，明年我们孩子中有6个读中学，1个去的加拿大、1个去新加坡，明年我们计划跟出去。我想搞清楚一个问题，教育在孩子成长中起的作用有多大？你只是横切面看一个问题，有时候看不明白，放在一个时间线上才能看清楚，比如孩子性格在不同教育模式下有什么变化，才比较清楚观察到今天给孩子可能一堂课，但是这堂课完全有可能在他日后生命中发挥重要的作用。

【Beijing normal university art and medium institute professor、Doctoral tutor，The documentary, director of the center】：I'm very honored to into the education industry，In fact this all the life in the school，Let me find education，Especially the education or children from my children start reading，From I resolved to know children how to want to question？How to feel the world？Suddenly I found that I don't know my children，Because that moment he 4 years old，Have a lot of behavior I couldn't solve it，Now take the whole six years，Took 18 kids，Next year we have six children read middle school，1 to Canada、1 to go to Singapore，Next year we plan to go out。I want to make clear a problem，Education in the children to grow up in how the role of？You just see a cross-section，Sometimes I don't know，In a time line to see clear，Such as children's character education mode in different what changed，Just more clear observed today to the child may class，But this class can in his future life play an important role。

　　我先给大家讲一下我拍的几个孩子。特别能打架的孩子，那个幼儿园所有家长团结起来要求幼儿园把他开除，孩子回家说，我今天特别高兴艺洋没有打我后来老师和家长进行开诚布公讨论，最终艺洋发生很大的变化，尽管有时候确实很暴动，有时候艺洋（音）进入小学发生巨大的变化，他在学校基本就是挨批，没有觉得哪个老师喜欢他。我让所有的解说词孩子写，我们负责把你的话整理句子，但是我们不加工。第二个让他自己解说，我们第一个成长秘密用小桃红解说非常好，这次全部让孩子自己讲，结果孩子很多想法让我吓一跳。

I give you speak about my shot the children。Special to fight child，The kindergarten all parents together to demand the kindergarten to fire him，The child home said，I do not play the special GaoXingYi today I later teachers and parents to open discussion，Finally yi-yang happen very big change，Although sometimes really riots，Sometimes yi-yang（sound）Enter elementary school change greatly，He is in the school basic criticism together，Not to feel which teacher like him。I let all the commentary children write，We will be responsible for your words finishing the sentence，But we don't processing。The second let his own interpretation，We first growth with small pink secret interpretation is very good，The children all that they speak，The results are many children idea that I was startled。

　　有一段是艺洋（音）打架，他说我打架就是发泄一下，我把鼓想象成老师的头，我把所有鼓打一遍就发泄了。我想让大家知道孩子心声是什么，孩子这样解说：我放学了，我的上学从离开校园那一刹那，我就突然觉得自由，突然摆脱老师的监视。你想想学校就是“监狱”，假如不是让孩子自己说这样词我们想不到。

There's a time the art（sound）fight，He said I fight is letting off steam，I imagine the drum of the head teacher，I put all the drum play once is out。I want to let everyone know the child feelings is??????，Children such commentary：I came home from school，I go to school from the moment left campus，I suddenly feel free，Suddenly out of the teacher's surveillance。You think of a school is“prison”，If not be let him child says this word we unexpected。

　　刚才很漂亮的小孩子“要呼吸风景”，这个孩子毕业之后上了家庭学校，因为在公立学校根本待不住，她四年级还处在个位数相加，但是艺术有天才，里边的动画形象是她自己创作、她自己发明“猫女郎”形象，每天用漫画画下她的心灵，我找了一个做动画的人，把她的漫画做成动画，大家看到黑糊糊她叫“数字魔鬼”，他说上学就是天堂和地狱，数学就是魔鬼。舞蹈也很棒、歌唱的很好，而且只唱英文歌，就是这么严重偏科的孩子，里边有一句话非常上我们感到很惊奇，一个11岁的孩子，妈妈给她上唯一兴趣班是舞蹈班，间隙听大孩子讨论上舞蹈班能高考加分，她听起来很伤心，为什么什么事都和考试有关系？跳舞就是想跳跳舞，而不是因为考试加分。

Just very beautiful children“Want to breathe scenery”，The child in the family after graduation from school，Because in the public schools don not to，Her grade four is still in single digits adding together，But art has a genius，It is her own animated creation、Her own invention“The cat woman”image，Every day with comic painted her heart，I find a do the animation，She made the cartoon animation，You see black mass her name“Digital the devil”，He said school is heaven and hell，Mathematics is the devil。Dance is also great、Sing very well，And only sing English songs，The child is so serious precious things，There's a word on the very we were surprised，An 11 years old，Her mother gave the only area is interest class，Listen to children on the big gap discussion area can add cent the university entrance exam，She sounds very sad，Why everything with the relationship？Dancing is want to dance，Not because the exam points。

　　还有两个男孩一个向左走、一个向右走，一个家长给了孩子充分自由，一切事情以他意见为主，他从来不上兴趣班，在家里做什么？怎么做？一切听孩子想法。另外一个孩子跟他方法完全相反，每天都在上奥数，爸爸脾气不好一着急就骂，所以在我搞的发布会上爸爸也来了，我说拍这个电影有什么感觉？他说我就想让我爸爸知道，让他后悔，发脾气时后悔。现在这样孩子教育体制下长大的，那么天不怕、地不怕上小学性格就变了。

There are two boys a left to go、A right，A parents give children the full freedom，All things in his opinion mainly，He never on a cake course，In the home to do??????？How do？All ideas to hear the child。In addition a child with his method completely opposite，Every day in the Olympic math，The bad temper father a try so hard to scold，So I'm in the conference dad，I said this movie does it take？He said I want my father to know，Let his regret，Regret lost his temper,。Now so that the child education system to grow up，So isn、Ground not afraid elementary school character changed。

　　去年在拍电影夏令营里，这家伙自己编故事、自己主演、自己召集演员、还自己导演，这个片子在夏令营获得第一名，一旦给自主环境依然是非常才华有能力的人，但是一上学他在学校永远抬不起头。

Last year in film in the summer camp，This guy his stories、Starring his、Himself called actor、Return oneself director，The film won the first place in summer camp，Once to independent environment is still very talented and capable man，But a school in the school he never lift head。

　　这些现象就想归纳一句话，今天孩子怎么了？这样状态下长大的孩子可能跟我们理解的孩子已经有很大的差异，包括里边的甜甜11岁的孩子，由于妈妈不接电话，想到妈妈抛弃她，从而想到回家看看出生证，妈妈是不是亲生的。这是成长过程中情感分离带来最大的压力。我们知道孩子从生下来都是好学狂，不让他学习非常困难，他要探索这个世界、包括探索所有的物质，但是经过小学几年培养之后，很多孩子发生很大的改变，把一群好学狂变成厌学狂，最重要在中间厌学孩子创造基因逐步萎缩，创造状态一定最有热情、最有兴趣是主动的状态，而不是被动。

These phenomena to a word is summarized，Today's children how？This state of the child may grow up with our understanding of children already have a big difference，Including the sweet inside children aged 11，Because my mother wouldn't pick up the phone，Think of mother walked out on her，So think of home to see a birth certificate，Mother was one's own。This is the growth process emotional separation bring the most pressure。We know the child from birth are eager to learn crazy，Don't let him study is very difficult，He want to explore the world、Including explore all the material，But after primary school a few years after the training，Many children changed much，A group of studious crazy becomes disgusted crazy，The most important in the middle school children to create gene has steadily declined，Create state must be the most enthusiastic、Most interested in is active state，Rather than a passive。

　　从这里我想讲第二个问题“我们教育怎么了？”从我们拍摄各种类似的教育，在座各位很多班我都拍过，比如泡泡英语、学而思、巨人等，还拍过私立教育，当然拍过北大、师大很多名校，我们发现一点，普通学校比重点学校孩子生活更愉快，民办学校比公办学校孩子要愉快，课外班孩子比在学校更愉快，这是基本的孩子心态，我就在想为什么？就是大家的各自心态不一样，给孩子角度不一样，也就是说孩子自主性越强的地方就越快乐，孩子自主性剥夺最严重的地方就是他最痛苦的地方，这里边出现一个核心的问题，在我们教育中基本呈现一个考试中心、分数中心、教师中心，尤其是公办教育，教师是学校的主角，尤其低年级班主任非常厉害，而且很多班主任前世都是“秦始皇”，非常厉害很有权威，尤其对于孩子身体和心理不足以支撑，这个过程中孩子心理受到创伤非常严重，如果家庭没有给孩子准确及时的保护，这种创伤可能是一辈子。

From here, I want to speak the second question“Our education how？”We shot from all kinds of similar education，Everyone here, a lot of class I have taken，Such as bubble English、Learn to think、Giant, etc，Also taken private education，Of course taken Peking University、Normal university many school，We found a little，Ordinary school children than the key school life more pleasant，Private school children to be happy than public schools，Extracurricular class in school children than more enjoyable，This is the basic mentality of the children，I wonder why？Is everyone's their mentality，Give children Angle，That is the more autonomy for the children the strong place of the happiness，The most serious autonomy deprived children place is his most place of pain，There are the emergence of a core problem，In our education of basic present a test center、Scores center、The centre，Especially public education，The teacher is the leading role of the school，Especially lower grade teacher in charge is very strong，And a lot of the teacher in charge is past“Qin shihuang”，Very much very has the authority，Especially to the child's physical and psychological enough to support，The process of psychological trauma children is very severe，If the family didn't give children accurate and timely protection，The trauma may be a lifetime。

　　我拍摄很多东西说实话没有放到电视片，假如放进去很多老师会遭受严重的道德指责，没有想到一个老师可以这样对待孩子，而孩子没有能力反抗的。一个八岁、七岁孩子没有能力反抗成人施以这样的压力，尤其他可以带整个小朋友对一个小朋友实施一些行动，这是非常恐怖的。由此形成一个问题是，我们把孩子都给标准化、城市化、知识化，一个孩子在我们统计中变成知识点，孩子变成几个干巴巴数据，语文多少分、数学多少分还有非常重要就是听不听老师话，其他都不重要。这样评估体系下很多孩子被错误评估了，由此产生很多所谓的“坏孩子”。

I took many things to tell you the truth is not on TV，If put in a lot of the teachers will suffer from serious moral blame，Not think of a teacher can treat children，And the children have no ability to react against it。A eight years old、Seven children have no ability to impose such pressure against the adults，Especially he can take the whole children to a kid implement some action，This is very terrible。Thus forming a problem it is，We put all his children to standardization、urbanization、knowledge，A child in our statistics in into points，Children become a few vapid data，Language how many points、How many points and mathematics is very important to listen to not listen to the teacher words，The other is not important。So many children are under the system of evaluation error evaluation，Thus create many so-called“Bad boy”。

　　如今在社会上有点模样人很多曾经是“坏孩子”，没有被扼杀掉的，保持他个性的人。而相反非常听话、只会考试，一旦进入社会会遇到巨大的麻烦，因为他缺乏自主性。所以就我观察提几个问题：

Now in the society, many people used to be like a little“Bad boy”，Not be killed off，Keep his personality。And instead very obedient、Will only test，Once you enter the society will have great trouble，Because of his lack of autonomy。So I observed a few questions：

　　1、身体，身体家长们用了巨大的工夫，我们给孩子身体是超越孩子能承受的，美国孩子已经在二十年前这样，中国孩子已经出现发达国家基本特征。

1、body，Parents use a huge body of work，We give children the body is beyond the child can endure，American children have 20 years ago in this，Chinese children has been developed countries basic characteristics。

　　2、头脑，简化地说就是对知识的掌握，能记住多少字、能会多少单词、能算多少题，但是缺最重要的一环对孩子的心灵教育，怎么滋养孩子的心灵。

2、mind，To say is to simplify the knowledge，Can remember how many words、How many words can be、Can calculate how much problem，But short of one of the most important rings on the child's soul education，How to nourish the children's heart。

　　（1）我们教育中最缺乏以个性为中心的人格教育，尤其在传统学校公立学校，孩子几乎人格被践踏所剩无几。人格教育首先对他自己来讲，孩子也是有尊严的，批评孩子是我们家常便饭包括那种口气，你想一下如果有人用这样口气对待我们，即使他是你的老板也忍受不了，孩子天天这样环境下性格一定扭曲。主动人格人格完整，他会自己选择学习什么？我自己选择怎么学习？这两点选择的权利不仅仅针对他学习的科目，而是对他整个人生设计，一旦孩子更长大的时候选择能力就是人的自主性，一生面临无限的选择，选择正错直接决定你成功还是失败。假如孩子一直被选择，也就是我们孩子学习什么、做什么都是安排ABCD中，孩子在成人之后也没有自主思考判断能力，而这点非常重要。涉及对孩子一生成为什么样的人是儿童时代最重要的品质。

（1）Our education in the lack of the personality as the center of personality education，Especially in the traditional school of public schools，Children almost trampled personality left。Personality education first, to him，Children also is to have dignity，Children are our criticism potluck including that tone of voice，Could you imagine if someone with such tone with us，Even if he is your boss can't endure，Children so everyday environment character must distortion。Active personality complete personality，He will choose to study??????？I choose to learn？The two choice not just for him to study subjects，But to his whole life design，Once the child grew up more time choice is the ability of autonomy，Faced with the choice of infinite life，Choice is wrong to you directly success or failure。If children have been selected，Also is our children learning??????、What to do is to arrange for ABCD，Children in adult and no independent thinking after judgment，And this is very important。A reference to the child's life become what kind of person is children age the most important quality。

　　（2）以创意为中心的思维教育，我们教育很发达、考试很发达，但是我们科学不发达，我们几百年对人类贡献其实比较小，不仅没有出现那么多伟大科学家，就连艺术方面在整个舞台上跟我们人口基数完全不成正比，问题出在创意缺失，在于思维方法被禁锢。更多时候孩子被教育成在现成答案中选择一个正确的答案，这个不是哪个老师的问题，而是现在形成一套非常稳定、强大而糟糕的教育模式，一首诗、一幅画要求有一个正确答案，这是非常恐怖的事情。成人都知道同样一首歌，在不同心境条件下感受不一样，凭什么有一个标准答案，我为这个事经常跟孩子老师做斗争。我学文学出身，但是很多小学语文题我做不出来，我认为对的老师说不对，老师说对的在我看来甚至不对，孩子有时候会说你到底懂不懂？他很质疑我文学水平怎么样。其实问题出在这里，不仅是我，连作家王蒙也表示高考作文他做不了，这种伤害对孩子影响很大，当你用长期一种模式剥夺创造性和选择性的时候，最终适应这种思维模式。

（2）Creativity is the center of education of thinking，Our education is developed、Test is a developed，But we don't developed science，We hundreds of years to human contribution actually relatively small，Not only did not appear so many great scientists，Even art on the stage with us in the whole population base is out completely，The problem is lack of creativity，Lies in the thinking method imprisoned。More children were education into when the answers in the choice in a correct answer，This is not what the teacher's question，But now forming a very stable、Strong and bad education mode，A poem、A picture demands a correct answer，This is a very scary thing。Adults know as a song，In different mood conditions is not the same as the feeling，With what have a standard answer，I am this thing with the child the teacher often fight。I learn literature was born，But a lot of primary school Chinese topic I do not to come out，I think the teacher say no，The teacher said right in my opinion and even wrong，Kids sometimes say you exactly doesn't understand？He was questioning my literature level。In fact the problem here，Is not only I，Even the writer's also says the university entrance exam composition he can't do，This kind of harm to the child's influence，When you use long-term a pattern of creativity and selective when deprivation，Eventually used to this kind of thinking mode。

　　之前有人做试验，一只猴子拴上12年，放开之后它不会跑，思维上已经放弃要奔跑的愿望。所以我想在座很都是家长，都希望孩子成为人才，人才的标志不是考上北大、不是考上清华，我觉得有一个孩子家长说的非常好，原来我们一直希望孩子考上北大清华，但是现在不一定，给我孩子教奥数就是北大毕业，现在不以教教奥数班。

Before someone do a test，A monkey on to 12 years，It can't run after let go，Thinking has to give up to run desire。So I think all very are all parents，All hope the children to be talents，Talent is not admitted to the sign of Beijing university、Not admitted to tsinghua，I think there is a child parent say of very good，So we hope that the child has been admitted to Peking University and tsinghua university，But now not necessarily，Give me children teach mathematical olympiad is graduated from Peking University，Now not to teach Olympic math class。

　　我认为当下教育最重要给每个孩子找到教育方法。我没有否认上兴趣班错的，也没有否认什么班都不上。因为我判断不了这个问题，现在问题是我们主流被一种方法垄断了，也就是孔老夫子说的一句话“因材施教”才是今天重新回到教育最古老、也是最人本的起点，让每一个孩子都获得自己想达到的一个目标。

I think the education is the most important to each of the children find education method。I have not denied on programmes will wrong，Also not deny what class all not。Because I can't judge the problem，Now the problem is that we were a way mainstream monopoly，Also is the Confucius said a word“In accordance with their aptitude”Today is the most ancient back to education、And most human starting point，Let every child get you want to achieve a goal。

　　3、以行动为中心的体验中心。现在在儿童阶段，我们更多把孩子教育中心关注到知识上，但是同样重要我认为是孩子体验活动，就是用他的身体和心灵的结合结合，这种结合可能给这个孩子带来更多的自然感受、对自己身体能力的感受、包括对人与人之间交往、沟通、学习的能力，在成年之后一定成为生活中非常重要的能力，那就是我们不仅想到一个问题，而且通过我们行为实现一个目标，也就是说的行动。

3、In the center of the action of experience centre。Now in childhood，The child education center we more attention to knowledge，But equally important I think is children to experience activities，Is in his body and mind with the combination of，The combination may give the children bring more natural feeling、His body ability to feel、Including the communication between people、communication、Learning ability，In adulthood will certainly become a very important ability in life，That is a question not only of us，And through our behavior achieve a goal，That is action。

　　假如我们不把高考看作人生终点，分数可能不是幸福的标志。一个真正成功我相信一定是身心和谐，当生存不再是负担，生命品质差异就在精神上，而不在物质上。教育我想关于良知的事业，不仅是一个生意，如我我们在教育过程中能够让一个孩子发现自己，成长成有个性的人，我相信他就是做一件善事。如果我们工作让每个生命找到自己的轨迹、发现他的个性，最终成长希望的，我认为这样事业是功德无量。

If we don't take the university entrance exam as the end of life，Scores may not be happiness。A truly successful I believe must be physical and mental harmony，When survival is no longer the burden，Life in mental quality difference，And not in the material。Education I think about the cause of conscience，Not only is a business，As I in education process we can let a child found himself，Grow into a personality，I believe that he is doing a good deed。If we work for every life find your own path、Found his personality，Eventually grow of hope，I think this business is immeasurable qualities。

　　非常感谢各位教育事业的创办人，目前大体制相对大统一情况下，让孩子提供丰富的教育，将让孩子有更多的选择机会。

Thank you for your education the founder of the career，At the relatively large unified system，Let children to provide abundant education，Will let children have more choice。