深圳实习律师，今年上半年转正率仅三成

Shenzhen practice lawyers,In the first half of this year become a full member rate of only thirty percent

　　新快报记者 曹晶晶 实习生 黄雪萍

New express CaoJingJing reporter intern HuangXuePing

　　2012年7月12日，对王喆而言，是个大日子。需要寒窗苦读外加“人品爆发”通过了合格率极低的司法考试，再加上一年的实习期，才能走到这一天实习律师考核。

On July 12, 2012,As for 王喆,Is a big day.Need with cold window study hard"Character outbreak"Through the percent of pass extremely low judicial examination,Add the internship last year,To go to this day practice lawyer assessment.

　　王喆开始时很重视，咨询过不少前辈的意见，但都说“很简单，不过走走过场。”结果，他带着轻松乐观的心情却没能走过这个传说中的“过场”。

At the beginning of the 王喆 very seriously,Consulting a lot of predecessors opinion,But all said"Very simple,But go go through the motions."The results,He took the easy optimistic mood but not to walk on the legendary"cut-scenes".

　　那一天，和王喆有同样遭遇的人很多，因为这个男孩垂头丧气地走出深圳市律师协会（以下简称深圳律协）时，发现门口有几个女实习律师在哭。

That day,And 王喆 have the same encounter many people,Because the boy down in the dumps out of the shenzhen lawyer association(Hereinafter referred to as the "shenzhen LvXie)when,Find the door a few female practice lawyer crying.

　　王喆的经历似乎能在一组数据中找到佐证。

王喆 experience seems to be in a set of data to find evidence.

　　深圳今年上半年新增律师仅62人，而实习律师的数量早已上千。这意味着，70%的实习律师被关在律师职业的大门之外。

Shenzhen new lawyer in the first half of this year only 62 people,And the number of trainee lawyer had thousands of.This means that,70% of the practice lawyers were kept in the legal profession out of the gate.

　　为此，有实习律师网上发帖，炮轰面试“雷人”。不仅问各种非专业问题，还要看面试者身高、长相，甚至言谈举止与穿着打扮，一旦面试官感觉面试者长得“太矮太矬”、“太磕碜”或者“此人不像个律师的样儿”，都可能考核不过关。只能反问一句“律师何苦为难律师？”

therefore,Have practice lawyers Posting online,Cannon interview"shocking".Not only ask all kinds of non-professional problem,To see the interviewer height/looks,Even manners and dress,Once the interviewer feel the interviewer grow"Too short too stupid"/"Too depletion Chen"or"He does not like a lawyer's kind",Could not pass examination.Can only ask a"A lawyer is a lawyer?"

　　“没有一个问题和我的专业有关”

"Not a problem and my major relevant"

　　2012年7月12日，对王喆（化名）来说是执业律师转正的最后一关—实习律师考核面试。

On July 12, 2012,To 王喆(alias)It is practicing lawyers become a full member last close - practice lawyer assessment interview.

　　在准备这个面试之前，小王并没有在意。因为这个面试，前辈们都说相对简单，只是问一些实习中的专业问题，甚至只是走走过场而已。

In preparation for the interview before,Wang did not care about.For this interview,Elder people all say relatively simple,Just ask some probationary professional problem,Even just walk just go through the motions.

　　那天早上，王喆虽然有些忐忑，总体还算轻松乐观，他在律师事务所实习了一年，以前觉得生涩的法律知识早已熟稔于心。早上九点的面试，他提前半小时在深圳律协的大会议室外静静等候。

That morning,In 王喆 although some,Overall still calculate easy optimism,In his law firm practice for a year,Used to think not smooth of legal knowledge already familiar to heart.At nine o 'clock in the morning the interview,He half an hour earlier in LvXie in shenzhen big meeting wait outside.

　　轮到王喆时，他特意整了整衣领才走进考场。

王喆 turn when,He purposely adjusted collar before going into the examination room.

　　然而15分钟后，拿着打分标准单的王喆，心里已然知道自己的面试没戏了。面试时的问题超出他的意料，准备的专业知识几乎没有用上，关于自己的实习经历的问题更是少之又少。

But after 15 minutes,Take marking standard single 王喆,Heart already know his interview was out.Interview question is beyond his expectation,Ready to professional knowledge almost no use,About his internship experience problems is rare.

　　面试室里，三个考官、两个记录员，几乎都没有碰他带去的实习案件卷宗，简历也只是随手一翻。“我没有入党，但是问我的问题很多牵涉到这一块。”这些问题包括党的四项基本原则是什么等等。“我实习从事的是民商事领域的案件，但考官问的都是其他领域的法律，没有一个问题和我的专业有关，我没法应对。”王喆回忆。

Interview room,Three examiner/Two recorder,Almost all have no touch him to practice case file,Your resume is with a turn."I didn't join the party,But asked me a lot of involves this one."These problems include the party's the four cardinal principles is what and so on."I practice work in the field of civil and commercial cases,But the examiner asked other areas of law,Not a problem and my major relevant,I can't cope with."王喆 memories.

　　走出考场，实习女律师哭了

Walked out of the room,Practice female lawyer cry

　　面试完后，和王喆一样，很多年轻的实习律师们大都内心郁结却无力发作。几个女实习律师出来后当场抱着卷宗就哭了。备考的大厅里，参加面试的学生不断走出来，他们只能以复杂的讪笑来掩饰愤怒，互相吐槽面试的问题。

Interview after,And 王喆 as,Many young practice lawyers are mostly inner stagnation but unable to attack.Several female practice lawyer out on the spot after holding volume wept.Note in the hall,For an interview students come out constantly,They can only in complicated smile to hide anger,Mutual vomit tank interview question.

　　在这个面试之前，没有人想过自己会栽在政治知识、历史知识这些评价上，甚至所谓的“律师气质”。有律师事后发帖，称面试时衣着不得体、长得“太矮太矬”、“太磕碜”或者“此人没有律师的范儿”，都可能导致考核不过关。

In this interview before,No one would have planted in political knowledge/Historical knowledge of these evaluation,Even the so-called"Lawyer temperament".Lawyers Posting afterwards,Said the interview clothes dirty/grow"Too short too stupid"/"Too depletion Chen"or"He didn't the lawyer's lun namely model",Could lead to not pass examination.

　　好不容易挤上的独木桥

Very not easy squeeze on the wooden bridge

　　那场“魔鬼面试”结束一周后，王喆收到深圳律协的书面决定，结果如他所料，面试没有通过。接下来，他只能延长实习期，再参加下半年的面试。不过根据深圳实习律师管理的有关规定，笔试或者面试考核两次不过，则取消实习资格，两年内不得重新申请实习。因此，如果王喆下次面试再不合格，将被关在律师执业的门槛之外至少两年。

the"Devil interview"End after a week,Shenzhen LvXie 王喆 received the written decision,Results such as he had expected,Interview didn't pass.The next,He can only extend the internship,To participate in the second half of the interview.But according to shenzhen trainee lawyer with the relevant provisions of the management,Written examination or interview assessment twice but,Cancel the practice qualification,Two years may not apply for afresh practice.therefore,If 王喆 next interview don't qualified,Will be shut up in a lawyer's practice outside the threshold of at least two years.

　　“从考过通过率只有20%多的国家司法考试，再到执业律师资格的笔试，最后到面试，这一路走来，我们好不容易挤上通向律师之路的独木桥，就以这样‘莫名其妙’的方式戛然而止了。”王喆叹道。

"From the pass percent of pass is only more than 20% of the national judicial examination,To practice as a lawyer qualification written examination,Finally to interview,The way,We very not easy squeeze on the road to the lawyer of the bridge,In this‘puzzling’The way to an abrupt end."王喆 sigh a way.

　　半年，仅62名律师成功“转正”

Half a year,Only 62 lawyers success"Become a full member"

　　截止到2012年6月30日，深圳共有律师6929人（其中男律师4972人，女律师1957人），实习律师1427人，律师事务所410家。

By the end of June 30, 2012,Shenzhen has a lawyer 6929 people(The male lawyer 4972 people,Female lawyer 1957 people),Practice lawyer 1427 people,Law firm 410.

　　深圳律协的数据显示，2011年底的律师人数为6867人，2010年底为6248人，2009年6月有5349人，2008年底为5120人，从这些数据可以看出，从2011年底到2012年上半年，增加的律师仅为62人，2011年通过实习考核的619人，而每年等着“转正”的实习律师的数量都过千人。说明近年来深圳市的实习律师面试通过率确实很低。

Shenzhen LvXie data display,By the end of 2011 the number of lawyers for 6867 people,By the end of 2010 for 6248 people,June 2009 5349 people,By the end of 2008 for 5120 people,From these data can be seen,From the end of 2011 to the first half of 2012,Increase the lawyer is only 62 people,In 2011 through the practice examination of 619 people,But wait a year"Become a full member"Practice the number of lawyers had one thousand people.In recent years the practice that shenzhen lawyer interview percent of pass is really low.

　　为实习律师设置如此严格的转正规定，深圳律协的出发点到底是什么？

For practice lawyer set so strict regulations become a full member,Shenzhen LvXie starting point exactly is what?

　　有位网名为“深圳实习律师代表”的网友发帖炮轰深圳市律协，质疑深圳律协为了避免竞争，故意卡住实习律师的转正通道。

A net is"Shenzhen practice lawyer representing"The net friend of post cannon shenzhen LvXie,Question LvXie shenzhen in order to avoid competition,Deliberately got stuck practice the lawyer's become a full member channel.

　　帖子引来回帖无数，很多深有感触的实习律师叹息：“律师何苦为难律师”。

Post draws countless reply,A lot of very trainee lawyer sigh:"A lawyer is a lawyer".

　　深圳律协：未设置通过率

Shenzhen LvXie:Not set percent of pass

　　但近日，深圳律协也曾就实习律师面试通过率低对媒体作出回应，称实习人员考核管理工作由律师协会负责。实习面试考核的目的是切实加强实习人员业务水平和执业技能，并申明全国、省、市律师协会未设置实习人员面试考核通过率。

But recently,Shenzhen LvXie had just practice lawyer interview percent of pass low to respond to the media,Say practice personnel assessment management the lawyers' association is responsible for.Practice interview assessment purpose is to strengthen the trainee business level and practice skills,And affirms the/province/City bar association not set practice personnel interview assessment percent of pass.

　　但关于网传律协考核时关注相貌以及穿着的问题，深圳律协并未给出正面回应，只表示面试考核内容设置个人品行表现环节、沟通协调和应变能力环节等进行综合考核，并依据每位考官独立出具的考核意见确定实习人员本次面试考核结果。

But on the net for the assessment of LvXie attention when appearance and wear problem,Shenzhen LvXie did not give a positive response,Only that interview assessment content set individual conduct performance link/Communication and coordination ability and strain the link to carry on comprehensive appraisal,On the basis of each test an officer issued by the independent examination opinions sure practice personnel assessment results of this interview.

　　在规范实习人员考核的同时，协会对考官的工作亦作出严格要求。面试考核采取全程录音录像，旨在接受实习人员、律师以及社会各界的监督。

In the standard practice personnel assessment at the same time,Association to test an officer work also make strict requirements.Interview assessment to take the whole video recording,Designed to accept trainee/Lawyers and the supervision of the society from all walks of life.

　　“魔鬼面试”“根本原因是律师过多”

"Devil interview""Root cause is a lawyer too much"

　　广州律协副会长，广东胜伦律师事务所主任肖胜方为记者分析了“魔鬼面试”的根本原因是律师过多，过度竞争太严重，随之而来的是律师服务质量的降低。从行业的整体利益出发，各地律协为了控制律师人数而提高了面试的要求。

Guangzhou LvXie vice President,Guangdong - Aaron law office director shaw shengfang reporters for the analysis"Devil interview"The fundamental reason for this is a lawyer too much,Excessive competition too serious,Following is a drop in the quality of lawyer service.From the industry's overall interests,LvXie around in order to control the number of lawyers and improve the requirement of the interview.

　　虽然广州的实习律师通过率目前仍然在95%以上，但北京、上海都已经开始限制律师的数量。北京的方式是规定实习律师的档案必须挂在北京，但在实际操作中，没有北京户口的实习律师档案都没法挂靠到人才交流市场里，实际上用户口控制了北京律师的数量。

Although guangzhou practice lawyer percent of pass is still in more than 95%,But Beijing/Shanghai have begun to limit the number of lawyers.Beijing way is regulation practice lawyers file must hang in Beijing,But in practice,No Beijing hukou practice lawyers file all can not affiliated to the talent in the exchange market,In fact use account control the number of Beijing lawyer.

　　肖胜方进一步分析了造成律师市场供过于求的原因。

Shaw further analyzes the conflict caused by the reason of lawyer a glut on the market.

　　在中国高达90%的律师事务所（以下简称律所）招聘律师都没有多少成本。这些律所不但不用给律师开工资，也不缴纳社会保险。相反，律师每年还要向律所支付承包挂靠费。这就导致绝大多数的律所对待律师招聘几乎是来者不拒。律师数量越多，这些律所对外越好宣传。

In China as much as 90% of the law firm(Hereinafter referred to as the law firms)Hiring lawyers did not have the how much cost.These firms are not only don't give lawyer open wages,Also don't pay society insurance.instead,Lawyers and law firms to pay each year to contract the affiliated fee.This will lead to the vast majority of law firms to lawyer recruitment is almost to the net.The lawyer number,These firms are foreign more good publicity.

　　“在这种机制下，法律服务市场僧多粥少，律师恶性竞争，牺牲服务质量的事情频出。调解律师数量的那只市场无形的手失灵了。”肖胜方说。

"In this mechanism,The legal service market placements across,Lawyer vicious competition,Sacrifice service quality PinChu things.Mediation lawyer number one market invisible hand failed."Shaw said the victor.

　　因此，近年来全国律协出台了行业规定，要求实习律师要经过上岗前一个月的培训。接着要接受面试考核。实际上，是将律所把关律师数量和质量的任务交给了律协。这种做法有着越俎代庖之嫌，导致面试不通过的人都将矛头对准了律协。

therefore,In recent years the national LvXie issued a industry rules,Requirements practice lawyers to work after one month before the training.Then to accept an interview assessment.In fact,Is the law firms lawyer checks the number and quality of task to the LvXie.This practice has do it for someone else too,Lead to interview not through will be aimed at LvXie.

　　考官也纠结

The examiner also ravel

　　“考官其实也很纠结。”一位不愿意透露姓名的广州律协的面试官告诉记者。一方面，实习律师经过艰苦的努力，跨过了通过率很低的司法考试，又经过了一年的实习，轻易淘汰，于心不忍。另一方面律师数量及质量都要控制。

"The examiner is also very ravel."An anonymous guangzhou LvXie interviewer told reporters.On the one hand,Practice lawyers through hard work,Across the percent of pass very low judicial examination,And after a year of practice,Easily eliminated,Can't bear to.On the other hand lawyer quantity and quality must be controlled.

　　不过目前广州实习律师的面试问题主要还是围绕着考生带来的案件卷宗展开。目的是考察实习的真实性。如果说不出自己参与办理的案件，就很可能是假实习，只是挂个名，在这种情况下才会不给过。如果语言表达不清、法学功底太差，也会过不了关。面试官就遇到过一个考生，连立案要提供什么材料都说不清楚、当场淘汰。

But at present guangzhou practice the lawyer's interview questions mainly around the examinee or bring the case of the volume expansion.Purpose is to study the authenticity of the practice.If not a in the case,It may be false practice,Just hang a name,In this case will not given.If the language is not clear/Law poor skills,Also can't pass the.The interviewer is met a examinee,Even put on record to provide what material all say not clear/Out on the spot.

　　至于网传有实习律师因为穿戴不整齐而惨遭淘汰的说法，面试官坦承衣着和气质确实会给考官一些不同的印象，但绝不至于因为衣着这一项而淘汰考生。

As for the nets have practice lawyer because wear impure and elimination said,The interviewer admits clothes and temperament do give the examiner some different impression,But not as for because dress this a and eliminated the examinee.

　　肖胜方认为考核和淘汰律师的任务本应该由律所承担。“如果律所向公司化发展，给每个律师开工资，交社保，相信没几个律所会盲目扩大律师数量。那些素质和水平并不高的律师自然没人要，哪里还需要律协来控制律师的人数？”肖胜方为这个难题开出了药方。

Shaw shengfang think evaluation and selection lawyer task should be undertaken by the law."If the company law of development,Give each lawyer open wages,Pay social security,Believe that few firms will blindly expand the number of lawyers.The quality and level is not high lawyer natural nobody will,Where LvXie still need to control the number of lawyers?"Shaw winner for this difficult problem to offer a prescription.