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不看证书摒弃奥数 2013年小升初看什么--亲稳网络舆情监测室
2012-09-25

  近日,教育部部长袁贵仁指出,“奥数热”涉及中小学择校问题,国务院已作出了部署,将全力推动义务教育均衡发展,从根本上治理“奥数热”。新学期前夕,北京市出“重拳”,采取多项措施坚决治理奥数成绩与升学挂钩,查处与奥数竞赛和培训挂钩的入学行为。而上海前几年就明确规定:小升初招生不得看奥数等竞赛证书。面对新一轮小升初,家长们很迷茫:小升初究竟该看什么?

recently,The ministry of education minister pointed out that yuan guiren indicated,"Aoshu heat"Involved in primary and secondary schools will be problems,The state council has made the deployment,Will spare no effort to promote the balanced development of compulsory education,Fundamentally management"Aoshu heat".On the eve of the new term,The Beijing"punch",Take some measures to resolutely governance Olympic math scores and bound hook,Investigate and Olympic math competition and training hook entrance behavior.And Shanghai before a few years is specified:Another recruit students may not see such as Olympic math competition certificate.In the face of a new round of another,Parents were lost:Another should see?

  

奥数被叫停 谁最“伤不起” Mathematical olympiad is called who is the most"Injury can not afford to"

  

培训机构:收入比以前少多了 Training institutions:Income is much less than before

  奥数被叫停,首当其冲受到影响的是以此营利的培训机构,以学而思为例。日前的一份针对培训机构的报告披露,根据最近一个季度季报,学而思营收4930万美元,其中小班(含摩比思维)营收占比66%,智康占比31%,学而思网校占比3%。北京市政府对奥数的调整主要集中在小班培优业务,学而思一季度小班收入中21%来自京沪以外地区(这是截至目前京沪外城市最高的贡献比例),推算来自京沪小班收入为2570万美元。而随着北京市政府对小班业务的调整,这部分收入肯定会受到影响。

Aoshu have been stopped,Bear the brunt of affected which is the commercial training institutions,To learn and think, for example.By a study on training institutions report disclosure,According to a recent quarter quarterly report,Learn and think revenue of $49.3 million,The small class(Than thinking with the)Revenue accounted for more than 66%,ZhiKang accounted for more than 31%,Learn to think for online than 3%.The Beijing municipal government for mathematical olympiad adjustment mainly concentrated in small class the pew business,Learn and think quarter small class income 21% from outside Beijing(This is so far the beijing-shanghai outside the city the highest proportion of contribution),Inferred from the beijing-shanghai small class income for 25.7 million dollars.But along with the Beijing municipal government for small class business adjustment,This part of the revenue must be affected.

  上海地区规定小升初招生不得看奥数等竞赛证书已经是几年前的事了,虽然市场上的奥数班改头换脸,以“兴趣班和训练营”的形式出现,但毕竟没有以前那么火爆了。某以奥数为主的培训机构老师坦言,现在的招生的确大不如从前。

Shanghai provisions shall not see another recruit students, such as Olympic math contest the certificate has a few years ago,Although the market Olympic math class to head in the face,to"Interest and training camp"forms,But after all, not so hot the before.One to aoshu primarily training institutions teacher said,Now the enrollment of large indeed as before.

  

民办学校:招生比以前难多了 School of run by the local people:Recruit students much more difficult than before

  这种招生的难不在于生源,好的民办学校不愁没学生。事实上,民办学校招生的难在于奥数、各种竞赛被叫停后,学校在招生时就缺少了一个有效的衡量判别学生的标准。学校老师更需练就一双“火眼金睛”。

This recruit students is not difficult to students,Good school of run by the local people not sorrow not students.In fact,Private school recruit students is hard mathematical olympiad/Various competitions after have been stopped,The school enrollment is the lack of an effective measure discriminant student's standard.School teachers need more practice a pair of"Sharp eyes".

  新华初级中学校长陈剑波坦言,小升初最初是有统一考试的,虽然考试本身也会让人诟病,但它毕竟是一个客观、有效的选拔学生的工具。高考因为一考定终身被人诟病了很多年,但是一直没有被取缔,是因为目前找不到能够替代高考的更科学、更有效的选拔工具。在小升初考试的时候,培训业还没有那么火爆。

Xinhua junior high school principal ChenJianBo said,Another is the first unified exam,Although the test itself also can let a person suffering,But it is after all a objective/Effective selection students' tool.The university entrance exam because a discovery life was for the for many years,But has not been banned,Because at present can't find able to replace the university entrance exam more scientific/More effective selection tool.In another examination of the time,Training industry is not so hot.

  后来,考试被取缔。民办学校只能依靠各种证书来判别学生。陈校长表示,奥数竞赛、英语考级等在最初还是颇有含金量的,多多少少能考查出学生的学习能力、思维能力。毕竟,好学校都想招好学生,而好学生的依据就是具备良好的学习习惯和学习能力,并且喜欢学习,具有较强的学习自主性。这些只能通过学生的学习成绩和各种证书来衡量。由此,围绕各种竞赛的培训市场火爆起来了。但随着它的火爆,各种造假也层出不穷,竞赛和证书的含金量也在不断被稀释。

later,Test was banned.Private schools can only rely on all sorts of certificate to discriminant students.Chen said the principal,Aoshu competition/English and accomplishment in the initial or quite have the gold content,More or less can check out students' learning ability/Thinking ability.After all,Good schools want to recruit good student,And good student basis is to have a good study habits and learning ability,And like to learn,Have stronger learning autonomy.These can only through the students' learning achievement and all kinds of certificate to measure.this,On a variety of competition training market hot up.But with its fiery temper,All sorts of false also emerge in endlessly,Competition and certificate of gold content unceasingly is also be diluted.

  去年,上海市教委明令禁止学校收取学生各种竞赛、考级证书等申请资料,这相当于给很多民办学校出了一道难题。因为单凭家长网上填报的申请表格是看不出什么端倪的,申请表格都非常简单,只能面谈。面谈就需要老师有一双“火眼金睛”,从万千孩子中挑选出合适的孩子。今年新华初级中学有2000多名学生提交申请,学校全部安排了面谈,从中挑选出200个左右的学生。对于学校来说这个过程漫长而艰难。

Last year,Shanghai municipal education commission, banned for school students various competitions/Certificate of accomplishment for material,This is equivalent to give a lot of school of run by the local people out of a difficult problem.Because single by parents provided online application form is can't see any clue,Application forms are very simple,Can interview.Interview will need the teacher have a pair of"Sharp eyes",Children from myriad to select the right child.Xinhua junior high school this year there are more than 2000 students submit the application,The school all arranged interview,Choose out of around 200 students.For schools this process long and difficult.

  

家长:没有了奥数,是否还会有“奥英”、“奥语” parents:No mathematical olympiad,If there will be a"Mr British"/"Mr Language"

  有部分家长有这样的担心,目前教委出重拳打击奥数,那不少学校在招生时可能会对“奥数”这块的比重看淡些,但是名校在招生时不可避免地总要看学生的成绩,单看小学阶段的成长手册并不全面,是否会在此基础上再看学生其他竞赛的奖项,比如英语、语文等,那这就演变成虽然没有了奥数,但产生了新的“奥英”、“奥语”等竞赛,这对学生和家长来说还是换汤不换药。

Some parents have such worry,At present the education commission punch hit mathematical olympiad,That many schools when recruit students in May"aoshu"The proportion of the see a lighter,But in school when recruit students inevitably always want to see a student's test scores,Single see the growth of the primary school handbook is not comprehensive,Whether you will again on this foundation to see students other competition awards,Such as English/Language, etc,It turned into a although no mathematical olympiad,But produce a new"Mr British"/"Mr Language"Etc competition,The students and their parents is mutton dressed as lamb.

  此外,还有家长质疑该项政策是否还会带热“小五班”的招生,虽然市教委三令五申明确规定不允许学校开办“小五班”,但有些家长却对此并不领情,认为“小五班”能为学校选拔好苗子,因为“小五班”招生并不只是看一两次竞赛成绩,而是以若干次的全科考试成绩为依据,相比来说更加全面。

In addition,And parents questioned whether the policy will also take heat"Small class five"admissions,Although the city education commission repeated orders clear provisions are not allowed to run schools"Small class five",But some parents but don't appreciate,think"Small class five"Can school selection good young plant,because"Small class five"Recruit students not only see one or two competition results,But with several times based on general test scores,In contrast a more comprehensive.

  

名校说法 That school

  

《成长手册》:学校“管中窥豹” [Growth manual]:The school"Ab uno disce omnes"

  校长陈剑波表示,通过学生的《成长手册》,还是能够看出学生的基本情况的,比如他的学习情况,学习习惯等,虽然现在老师给孩子的评语都以积极向上的为主,但是通过老师的措辞,字里行间是能掌握孩子的基本面的。对此,立达中学教导主任陈俊也表示认同,他认为,《成长手册》能够很好地反映孩子的学习能力、学习潜质。对于立达来说,不爱学习、学习主动性不强的孩子将不会被考虑录取。其次,《成长手册》里各科成绩仅是合格的学生也不会被录取。

The headmaster ChenJianBo said,Through the students'[Growth manual],Or it can be seen that student's basic situation,Such as his study,Learning habits, etc,Although now the teacher gave the child's comments are positive primarily,But by the teacher's words,Between the lines is to be able to master the child's fundamentals.this,Rieter middle school director of teaching and ChenJun also said identity,He thinks,[Growth manual]Can well reflect the child's learning ability/Learning potential.Set up for it,Do not love learning/Learning initiative is not strong the child will not be considered admission.secondly,[Growth manual]Results in all the subjects in only qualified students will not be admitted.

  

除了《成长手册》,还看试卷和作业本 In addition to[Growth manual],Also read papers and exercise book

  明珠中学校长张俊明指出,除了《成长手册》,明珠还会看学生5年级的语、数、外的作业本,做作业时字迹端正,并且能够自己订正错误的孩子会比较受青睐;相反,特别粗心,学习习惯较差,或者被老师评价为纪律性比较差的孩子可能不会被录取。张校长指出,明珠中学青睐的是有良好学习习惯和学习能力的学生,不会看重奥数,因为奥数更多的是考察脑筋急转弯,看学生的思维能力。明珠中学培养的是全面发展的学生,因此,学校平时的作业量还可以,不会特别大,同时,学校开设有五六十门拓展型课程,这些拓展课程,学生都是100%参与。陈校长则表示,新华初级中学在面谈时还会看学生在4、5年级的语数外试卷,通过试卷和学生平时的练习本来考察学生。

Pearl high school principal ZhangJunMing pointed out,In addition to[Growth manual],Pearl will also see students 5 grade language/number/External homework,When you do your homework right handwriting,And the ability to their correction error children are popular;instead,Special careless,Poor study habits,Or be the teacher evaluation for discipline more bad of the children may not be accepted.Zhang pointed out that the principal,Pearl favored middle school is to have good study habits and learning ability of students,Won't value aoshu,Because aoshu more is investigation brain twister,Look at the students' thinking ability.Pearl cultivation of high school is the comprehensive development of students,therefore,School at ordinary times the quantity of work can also,Not particularly big,At the same time,The school offers courses in 60 door expanding type course,The development course,Students are involved in 100%.President Chen, said,Xinhua junior middle school in the interview when still can see students in 4/5 grade language outside the number of papers,Through the test and students the practice was inspects the student.

  

特长生肯定会加分 Especially immortal will surely add cent

  陈校长指出,新华初级中学注重5大板块教育,包括科技、体育、艺术、人文教育和学科竞赛,因此在这些方面表现突出的学生肯定会有加分。比如科技,新华初级中学设立有机器人研究小组(即OM小组),而某些小学也设有OM小组,如果学生从小就对此感兴趣,参加此类兴趣组,并在面谈时告知学校,肯定会受到特别关注。

Chen pointed out that the principal,Xinhua junior middle school pays attention to five plate education,Include science and technology/sports/art/Humanistic education and discipline competition,So in these aspects of outstanding students will have bonus.Such as science and technology,Xinhua junior middle school set up a robot research group(Namely OM group),And some primary school also has OM group,If students since the childhood are interested,To attend this kind interest group,In the interview and inform the school,Will certainly pay special attention.

  再比如,新华初有铜管乐队,而虹口区三中心小学等学校也设有铜管乐队,对于参加该类社团活动的学生,学校也会特别关注,并请专业老师在现场对学生进行测试。

For another example,Xinhua initial have brass band,Hongkou district and three center primary school and also have a band,To participate in the community activities of the students,Schools can also pay special attention,And please professional teachers in the field of testing pupils.

  当然,学生有奥数或者英语、语文等方面的证书也会有加分。陈校长表示,在面谈时学校不会看这些证书,但通过跟孩子的交流就能判定孩子有证书的表述是否属实。

Of course,Students have the Olympic math or English/The language of certificate will have bonus.Chen said the principal,In the interview the school won't look at these certificate,But through the exchange with the child can determine children have certificate statement is true.

  

招生更看重学生一贯表现 Recruit students pay more attention to students consistently

  徐汇区一所知名外国语学校校长表示,每年招生很多家长都会问学校选拔学生要看哪些方面,但这个问题并不是通过简单的几句话就能说清楚,因为这是个立体的问题,他强调,很多学校的校长目前都已达成这样的共识:招生并不只是看学生的成绩,更看重学生平时一贯的表现。

Xuhui district a famous foreign language school principal said,Every year many parents will ask school recruit students select students to see what aspects,But the problem and not through the simple a few words can make clear,Because this is a three-dimensional problem,He stressed that,A lot of the headmaster of the school have been reached such consensus:Recruit students not only see a student's test scores,Think more of the students usually consistent performance.

  另一所“牛校”校长也赞同这个观点,他表示,学校在招生时会看学生以下三方面:第一,学生的学习基础,在他看来小学和初中阶段的知识点还相对较浅显,只要学生肯学、愿意学、下功夫学,基本上没有学不会的;第二,学生的情商,学校招生是要看学生的成绩,但并不是唯一的,还要看学生表现出来的气质是否与学校相符合;第三,家庭对教育的理解,学校还会与家长进行面谈,主要是想从中了解家长对学生的教育理念。

another"Cow school"The principal also agree with this view,He said,The school recruit students to see when students the following three aspects:The first,Students' learning foundation,In his view elementary school and junior high school stage of the knowledge is relatively simple,As long as students willing to learn/Willing to learn/Effort to learn,Basically did not learn won't;The second,Students' emotion quotient (eq),School recruit students is to see a student's test scores,But it is not the only one,Also see students show whether temperament and conform to the school;The third,The family education for understanding,The school will interview with parents,The main purpose was to get parents to student's education idea.

  

奥数“变形记” aoshu"metamorphoses"

  

奥数的“前世今生” Mathematical olympiad"All men are mortal"

  1956年,华罗庚首次尝试将奥数引入中国,并在老一辈数学家的倡导下,由中国数学理事会发起,举行了首次中学生数学竞赛。

In 1956,,Hua luogeng to try for the first time will be introduced into China mathematical olympiad,And in the older generation mathematician initiative,The Chinese mathematics council launched,For the first time at the high school mathematics competitions.

  1962年,北京、上海、成都等五个省市开始举办数学竞赛。 1965年到1977年,我国的数学竞赛中断了13年。

In 1962,,Beijing/Shanghai/Chengdu and other five provinces and cities began to hold mathematics competitions. From 1965 to 1977,Our country's mathematics competition interrupted 13 years.

  1978年,北京恢复数学竞赛。

In 1978,,Beijing recovery mathematics competitions.

  中国数学竞赛出现转机的开端是1980年的“大连会议”。会上成立中国数学会普及工作委员会,出版数学普及读物、组织数学竞赛。

Chinese mathematics competition an upturn in the beginning is 1980"Dalian meeting".The meeting Chinese popularization committee was math,Published a mathematical popularizer/Organization mathematics competition.

  1985年,中国开始派选手参加国际数学奥赛(I-MO)。此后为了让每年参加国家集训队的20多名学生安心备战,有关部门给予他们免试上大学的保证。

In 1985,,China began to send athletes to participate in the international mathematical olympiad(I - MO).Then in order to let every year to participate in the national team for more than 20 students at ease,The departments concerned shall give them an exemption on the guarantee of university.

  1990年,第31届IMO来到了中国,此后奥数开始在中国蓬勃兴起。

In 1990,,The 31st IMO came to China,Since then mathematical olympiad began in China's booming rise.

  1998年,“小升初”取消统一考试,奥数在中国进入了最火爆阶段,一直到今天。

In 1998,,"another"Cancel the unified exam,Olympic math in China to enter the most popular stage,Until today.

  

近8成小学生参加过奥数培训 Nearly 8 into primary school students participated in the training of mathematical olympiad

  虽然家长和孩子看似对奥数无比狂热和追捧,但事实上他们对奥数的恨和痛多过爱。中国社会调查所曾公布了一份对北京、上海、西安、重庆等15个城市的公众调查报告,被访问者中有78%的小学生参加过奥赛培训,84%的孩子表示不喜欢,74.9%的人认为家长送孩子上奥数班的目的只是为了获得名牌中学的敲门砖。而在某知名论坛所做的一个小范围调查显示,很多小学生学习奥数的时间超过两年,绝大多数家长和学生认为奥数非常难。对于奥赛培训的评价,58%的家长认为弊大于利,64%的家长认为劳民伤财,收效甚微。不难看出,尽管奥数热潮汹涌,但奥数教育已经从原来培养少数高智商的学生的素质教育被异化为升学和择校工具。

Although the parents and children seem so crazy for mathematical olympiad and chase after hold in both hands,But in fact they hate to mathematical olympiad and pain more than love.China's social survey was released a to Beijing/Shanghai/xian/Chongqing 15 cities such as public survey report,Interviewee has 78% of primary school children attended orsay training,84% of the children said don't like,74.9% of the people think that parents send children on the purpose of the Olympic math class just to get the brand middle school open sesame.And in a certain well-known BBS do a small range survey,A lot of students learning mathematical olympiad time for more than two years,The vast majority of parents and students think Olympic math is very difficult.For the orsay training evaluation,58% of their parents think that do more harm than good,64% of their parents think that waste man power and money,Had little effect.It is easy to see,Although aoshu boom surge,But Olympic math education was taken from the training a few high intelligence quotient (IQ) of the student's quality education was alienation for higher education and school tools.

  

家长热议奥数严打 仅3成家长看好治理效果 Parents of hot debate crackdown aoshu only 3 into parents good management effect

  据了解,在小升初的家长中,主要分成三派,一派是“支持派”,支持对奥数进行“严打”,认为奥数不应在小升初中起到作用,因为适合学习奥数的孩子并不多,如果仅仅是为了让孩子进入一所名牌初中,而强迫孩子学习他并不擅长的奥数的话,可能会对孩子的长期学习不利,使其厌烦数学这门学科,虽然可能在短时间内有效果,但时间一长不免要产生反作用的。

It is understood,In another in the parents,Mainly divided into three pie,School is"ZhiChiPa",To support Olympic math for"crackdown",Think aoshu should not be in in another play a role,Because for learning a mathematical olympiad not many children,If only to let the child into a famous junior middle school,And he is not good at force children to learn the word of mathematical olympiad,May to the child's long-term learning adverse,The mathematics of this discipline,Although there were effect may be in a short time,But a long time not to produce the counteractive.

  一派是“温和派”,认为学习奥数并没有错,但是如果家长、学校和社会让它在所有的“小升初”升学中赋予了较重的意义,那可能会导致问题。很多民办初中学校都有自身的特色,那就可以从该特色出发多元化的选拔学生,并不一定仅看学生的奥数成绩,但同时有些学校以数学见长,那可以适当地看下学生在数学方面的特色,而小学生的数学还比较浅显,以学校成绩来看的话也许分不出明显的高低,那就可以从一些相对难度稍大些的正规竞赛中分出高下。陈校长认为好的苗子是要从小发现从小培养的,全民奥数 的确太过狂热,奥数真正想选拔的是有数学天分并热爱数学的孩子,它的初衷本没有错。

School is"moderates",Think learning mathematical olympiad and not wrong,But if parents/The school and the society to make it in all"another"The entrance to the significance of the heavier,That can lead to problems.Many private junior middle school has its own characteristics,Then from the characteristics of diversified selection of students,Must not only see students' Olympic math scores,But at the same time some schools to be good at math,It can properly see students in mathematics features,And elementary student's mathematics is relatively simple,With school result, maybe points out the discretion of the obvious,It can from some relative difficulty older regular competition against ceding.President chan. Think good young plant is to found from from the training,The mathematical olympiad indeed too fanaticism,Olympic math really want to the selection of the is a mathematical talent and love mathematics children,Its original intention this not wrong.

  另一派是“反对派”,主要是因为这些家长从小就让孩子学奥数,认为现在一下子出台了这类政策对自己和孩子造成了不公平,而且他们也有疑问:如果在名校的“小升初”中不看奥数成绩,那如何来选拔出色的学生?

Another school of thought is"The opposition",Mainly because of these parents let children learn from mathematical olympiad,Think now suddenly introduced this kind of policy to himself and children caused unfair,And they also have doubt:If in the school"another"Watch the Olympic math scores,That how to select excellent student?

  而日前,中国青年报社会调查中心通过题客调查网和民意中国网,对9062人进行的一项调查显示,40.2%的受访者在持续关注北京市治理奥数的相关举措。受访者中,56.7%的人是家长。调查显示,对于北京市此次治理奥数的举措,57.1%的受访者表示支持。与此同时,只有31.7%的受访者看好此次治理的效果。

A few days ago,The China youth daily social survey center through the topic guest DiaoZhaWang and public opinion China,Of 9062 people of a survey,40.2% of respondents in the concern of the Beijing governance mathematical olympiad related measures.respondents,56.7% of the people are the parents.Investigation shows that,For the management of Beijing Olympic math action,57.1% of respondents said support.meanwhile,Only 31.7% of respondents valued the governance effect.

  

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对待奥数不可“一刀切” Treat aoshu not"One size fits all"

  某数学教师出身的“牛校”校长在谈到对奥数的看法时说,学奥数有什么错,源头并不在奥数上,问题是有必要这么多人学奥数吗?他曾碰到很多这样的家长:在孩子小学阶段拼命让孩子学奥数,但进了初中后却对奥数再也不闻不问,问及原因都是轻描淡写的一句话:学奥数就是为了进民办初中,现在进了还学它干什么?在他们看来,奥数仅是进入名校的一种工具而已,这是十分悲哀的。

A mathematics teacher was born"Cow school"The principal talked about in the view of mathematical olympiad said,Learn aoshu what's wrong,The source is not in the mathematical olympiad,The problem is necessary so many humanistic Olympic math?He had met many of these parents:In primary school children try very hard to let the children learn mathematical olympiad,But into the junior high school is no longer to go after mathematical olympiad,Asked about reason is understated a word:Learn mathematical olympiad is in order to enter junior middle school of run by the local people,Now into the study it?In their eyes,Mathematical olympiad is only a tool of the best universities in it,It is very sad.

  该校长表示,对待奥数问题千万不能搞“一刀切”的政策,也并不是依靠一两招就能解决的,更不能“头痛医头,脚痛医脚”。因为对学校来说也有很多无奈,在招生时规定“这不行,那不行”,却从来没有明确地规定过“哪些是可行”的。

The President said,Treat Olympic math problem must not make"One size fits all"policy,And not rely on one or two recruit can solve,Couldn't be more"Instant gratification,JiaoTongYiJiao".Because for schools also have many helpless,When recruit students in regulation"This not,That no",But never explicitly rules over"Which is feasible"of.



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