谈大学面临问题 Talk about the problem faced university

台大校长李嗣涔： Big Cen conference to the headmaster：

台湾高校在为生源骤减而苦恼 Taiwan university student fell sharply in distress

　　“2016年将是台湾高校的一个坎，因为1998年台湾的人口出生数从33万下降到27万，这意味着18年后，也就是2016年，生源会骤然减少6万，相当于一下减少了20%，而台湾目前有163所高校，每年的招生人数在25万左右，可以想见相当一部分高校面临转型或合并。而生源数还在持续下降，这几年出生人数只有20万左右，未来高校面临的状况更严峻。”台湾大学的李嗣涔校长表示了对台湾生源逐年减少的担忧。

“2016 universities in Taiwan is a candy，Because in 1998 the population of Taiwan born to have fallen from 330000 to 270000，This means that the 18 years later，Which was 2016，Matriculate dramatically reduced by 60000，The equivalent to cut by 20%，And in Taiwan, there are 163 university，Every year in the recruit students number around 250000，Can see quite part of university faces transformation or merger。And the number of students continue to drop，This number only about 200000 years was born，The future of the situation of university more severe。”Taiwan university Cen school principal said the conference to Taiwan to reduce the concerns of the annual enrolments。

　　“如果这个缺口没有补起来的话，台湾的163所大学不知道有多少要倒掉。”李嗣涔说，增加招收外籍学生和大陆学生也是方法之一。“现在台湾在招收大陆学生时有‘三限六不’政策，三限是指限制采认高等学校、限制赴台陆生总量、限制学历采认领域；六不则是不涉及加分优待、不影响台湾岛内招生名额、不编列奖助学金、不允许在学打工、不得在台就业和不得报考公职。这样的政策对台湾大学的发展不利，所以2011年大陆学生总共只有928人最终注册，2012年录取了1328人，但估计只有七八成的报到率。我想，台湾适时会对‘三限六不’政策‘松绑’，以鼓励更多陆生赴台读大学。”

“If the gap no make up words，Taiwan's 163 universities don't know how to best。”Cen conference said，Increase to enroll foreign students and mainland students is one of the methods。“Now in the mainland have recruit students in Taiwan‘Three limit six not’policy，Three limit is refers to the limit that higher school in、Limit to a terrestrial quantity、In that field in limit；Six not is not involve add cent discount、Do not affect Taiwan's student enrollment、No budget to award grants、Don't allow learning work、Not in Taiwan employment and must not enter oneself for an examination office。Such a policy on Taiwan university development of adverse，So in 2011, only 928 people in total mainland students finally registered，In 2012, 1328 people accepted，But only eighty percent of the estimated seven report rates。I want to，Taiwan will timely‘Three limit six not’policy‘easing’，To encourage more land to a college。”

香港中文大学校长沈祖尧： The Chinese university of Hong Kong ShenZuYao principal：

香港高校今年首改4年制 Hong Kong this year to a four-year college first

　　和台湾的生源下降相反，香港中文大学的沈祖尧校长笑称，自己正为今年新学期突然要增加的3000新生犯愁，“我们的副校长跟我说，他要天天睡在学校里了。图书馆、教室、食堂都要扩容，目前我们正在完成图书馆地下扩建工程。”原来，从2009年起，香港高中学制改为3年，而大学由3年改为4年。“也就是说2006年9月就读中一的学生，会在完成六年中学教育后，于2012年考进大学。因此今年这一年是相当重要的一年。不仅是人数突然变多，整个课程也要改变，这些都是过去从未考虑过的问题。”

And Taiwan student down instead，The Chinese university of Hong Kong ShenZuYao principal smile says，His new term for this year is to be added 3000 new suddenly overwhelmed，“Our vice President say with me，He will sleep every day at school。library、The classroom、The dining room to expansion，Now we are completed underground expansion project of the library。”The original，Since 2009，Hong Kong high school system to 3 years，And the university three years instead of four years。“That is in September 2006 in a study of the students，Will finish high school education in six years，In 2012 got into college。So this year this year is quite important for a year。Not only is the number change suddenly，The course will be changed，These are the past never thought about the problem。”

　　而和学制改革同时进行的，还有香港的升学考试。“7月20日，是香港首次DSE考试放榜的时间，香港媒体称这是香港教育改革的里程碑。”沈祖尧校长介绍，DSE考试是香港中学文凭考试，考试的四个核心科目为语文、英语、数学及通识教育。“教育改革的内容之一是减少考试，过去高中毕业需要有两次考试，一次是中五的会考，一次是中七的A—Level考试。现在则只有一个DSE考试，通识教育是其中新增的考试内容，主要是提升学生的学习兴趣、沟通能力以及社会责任感等。”

And the system reformation and performed at the same time，And Hong Kong entrance exam。“July 20,，Hong Kong is the first test of DSE FangBang time，Hong Kong media says this is Hong Kong education reform milestone。”ShenZuYao President introduced，DSE exam is Hong Kong a high school diploma exam，Examination of the four core subjects for language、English、Mathematics and general education。“Education reform one of the content is to reduce the exam，The past graduate from high school need to have two examinations，One is the five of the examination，A is A-Level in seven of the exam。Now the only a DSE exam，General education is one of the new test content，Mainly is to enhance the learning interest of the students、Communication skills and social responsibility, etc。”

谈高等教育改革 Talk about higher education reform

复旦大学校长杨玉良： Fudan university President YangYuLiang：

　　“大学过于功利，大学校长过于功利，对社会将是个祸害。”复旦大学杨玉良校长说，人类对知识的崇拜已经超过了对思想的崇拜，“然而知识也是双刃剑，比如化学家可以合成药物，也能合成毒品，大学过分追求技术主义，对国家并非有利。撒切尔夫人曾有个论断，认为中国不会成为世界强国，因为近代中国没有独立的、足以影响世界的思想。的确，中国近代开始就没有足以影响世界的思想家了，我们输出的只是制造业的产品，而一个国家如果没有一流的思想家，这会是个悲哀。

“Too much utility university，University President too the utility，On social will be a disaster。”Fudan university YangYuLiang said the principal，The worship of human knowledge more than that for the worship of thought，“But knowledge is a double-edged sword，Such as chemists can synthetic drug，Also can synthesize drugs，University of excess pursuit of technology，To the state is not beneficial。Margaret thatcher was a judge，Think China will not become a world power，Because no independent in modern China、To be enough to influence the thinking of the world。indeed，Chinese modern start to be enough to influence the world without thinker，We just manufacturing output of products，And a country without first-class thinker，It's a sad, sad。

　　我们常说，要建立学习型社会，学习虽然重要，但思想更为重要，如果一个社会有更多的人愿意去思考，才能真正强大。而在这一点上，大学应当起到引领的作用。”

We often say，To build a learning-oriented society，Learning, though important，But thinking is more important，If a society more people are willing to think，Can truly strong。And at this point，Universities should play a leading role。”

南京大学校长陈骏： Nanjing university President ChenJun：

港校“掐尖”会促进良性竞争 Harbor school“QiaJian”Will promote positive competition

　　在谈及高校教育改革时，南京大学校长陈骏表示，目前南大正努力在课程设置上进行改革，将课程体系与国际一流大学对接。陈骏认为，大学高等教育改革要与中学改革衔接，就本科教育阶段而言，还应该与研究生教育相衔接。

Talk about education reform in colleges and universities，Nanjing university President ChenJun said，At present south are trying to set course reform，Will the curriculum system and the international first-class university docking。ChenJun think，Higher education reform should be and university high school reform cohesion，Undergraduate course education stage is concerned，Should also and graduate education link up。

　　近几年，港校在内地不断增加招生计划，以国际化教学环境、优渥的奖学金等优势每年“抢”走越来越多的尖子生。港校来内地“掐尖”，是否已经对内地重点高校生源形成了威胁？对此，陈骏表示，内地优质生源庞大，被港校录取的尖子生数量并不多，因此并不会对内地高校招生造成影响。相反，他认为这种与香港、台湾等地的高校进行“比拼”的招生模式，会在高校中形成良性竞争，促进内地高校教育的改革和发展。陈骏表示，与港台大学相比，内地高校应该“沉下心”去，提高人才培养的质量。

In recent years，The port in the mainland increasing enrollment plan，With international teaching environment、Generous scholarship advantages of each year“rob”Walk more and more top students。Harbor school to the mainland“QiaJian”，Whether you have in the mainland, key universities students formed a threat？this，ChenJun said，The mainland student huge quality，Top school admission by port number not much，So in the mainland will not affect college enrollment。instead，He thinks this and Hong Kong、Taiwan university“rivalry”Admissions mode，Will the benign competition in the college，Promote the mainland the reform and development of university education。ChenJun said，Compared with the university of Hong Kong and Taiwan，Inland universities should“Get heavy”to，Improve the quality of personnel training。

-现场花絮 -field recordings

两个“清华校长”相聚都是学物理的，年龄也相仿 two“Tsinghua the principal”All together is to learn physical，Age also similar

　　茶歇时，清华大学原校长顾秉林和台湾清华大学校长陈力俊两个人凑到一起，拉着手说个没完，兴奋得像两个孩子。“我们俩都是学物理的，年龄也差不多大。”顾秉林笑着告诉记者，他和陈校长有很多共同话题可聊。陈力俊也忍不住插了句：“还有人说我们俩长得像呢。” When tea breaks，The President of tsinghua university and tsinghua university President GuBingLin Taiwan ChenLiJun two people together，Pull to begin to stop it，Excited like two children。“We are both learn physics，Age also as large。”GuBingLin smile told reporters，He and President Chen share many topics to talk about。ChenLiJun also cannot help but in a sentence：“Some people said we were both look like。”

　　顾秉林说，虽然两岸清华大学从1949年以后相隔，一直到1991年开始交流互访，中间几十年的隔绝，并没有割断这同根同源。“我们的校训是一样的，都是梁启超1914年在清华大学演讲时提到的‘自强不息，厚德载物’。我们的校歌也是一样的。这五六十年，在办学理念、发展思路上也是很相像的。”说起两校学科上的差异，陈力俊说，台湾清华大学是理工科一枝独大。顾秉林则表示，北京清华大学规模更大，综合性更强。

GuBingLin said，Although cross-strait tsinghua university from 1949 years apart，Until 1991, started to exchange visits，Middle decades of isolation，And not cut off the people who share the same。“Our motto is the same，Are liang qichao's 1914 speech mentioned in tsinghua university‘Strive constantly for self-improvement，"’。Our JiaoGe is the same。This five hundred and sixty years，The idea that run、Development idea is also very much alike。”Speaking of two school discipline differences，ChenLiJun said，Taiwan is a tsinghua university in science and engineering only big。GuBingLin said it，Beijing tsinghua university larger，Comprehensive stronger。