中大教授翟振明笑谈“背负骂名” Cuhk ZhaiZhenMing professor a proverb“Bear vivid”

　　

“裸体奥运”教授：我被人骂惨了 “Nude Olympics”professor：I was called miserable

　　

中大教授翟振明称“文章发表属偶然，我没有炒作” 强调“允许”与“要求”差别甚大 Cuhk professor ZhaiZhenMing says“This article published incidental，I have no hype” emphasize“allow”and“requirements”Great difference

　　

对话背景： Dialog background：

　　8月9日，翟振明的一篇“倡议允许运动员在奥运会上裸体比赛”的英语短文被美国一知名讨论网站登载。文章中他提到，过去禁止运动员裸体比赛或许有其原因，但如今这些原因不一定构成继续这项政策的理由。

On August 9,，A ZhaiZhenMing“Initiative to allow athletes in the Olympic Games in the nude game”English essays by the United States an famous discussion site published。Article he mentioned，The past banned athletes naked game may have its reason，But now these reasons not necessarily constitute to continue the policy reason。

　　“提倡奥运会裸体，这教授可真够前卫的。”本报日前报道中山大学哲学教授翟振明在外国网站发表“倡议允许奥运裸体”一文(见本报8月13日A11版)后，引起公众不小的反响，其中不乏反对之声。面对热议，翟振明昨日接受了本报记者的专访，回应了网友关于其“炒作”的质疑，并再次强调“裸体奥运”的提法是“允许”而非“要求”。

“Advocate the Olympic Games in the nude，The professor was enough for avant-garde。”This newspaper reported sun yat-sen university philosophy professor ZhaiZhenMing in foreign website published“Initiative to allow the Olympic naked”are(See our aug. 13 A11 edition)after，Cause the public a lot of repercussions，There is no lack of among them against the sound。In the face of the hot discussion，ZhaiZhenMing yesterday accepted our reporter's interview，To respond to the net friend about it“hype”questions，And once again stressed“Nude Olympics”Formulation is“allow”Rather than“requirements”。

　　记者：报道出来后，很多人说你这是炒作，你怎么回应？

reporter：Reports out，A lot of people say you this is hype，How do you respond to？

　　翟振明：文章的发表属于偶然，美国这家网站之前发出了一个征文广告，要读者把自己最勇敢、最出色但又有道理的想法投给他们，当时的主题就是关于奥运会。我就投了这篇稿子，正是这样一个契机才被登出来，并不是我特意要登出来的，再说，我也没有造假，我这样怎么会是炒作呢？

ZhaiZhenMing：The article published belong to chance，The United States before the site issued a essay advertising，To the readers the bravest、The most outstanding but reasonable idea vote for them，The theme is about the Olympic Games。I would vote for the story，It is such a chance to be put out，Is not I have to climb out，besides，I have not cheating，I how is this hype？

　　记者：报道出来前你曾预料说自己“可能会被骂”，但现在用你自己的话来讲是“骂惨了”，你后悔文章被登出吗？

reporter：Reports out before you have said they expected“May be scold”，But now is in your own words“Burger out”，You regret is the appropriate？

　　翟振明：只要不是骂我的家人，他们怎么骂我都无所谓，反正我没有炒作，也不需要哗众取宠。

ZhaiZhenMing：As long as it's not scold my family，It doesn't matter how they scold me，Anyway, I have no hype，Also do not need to try to please the public with claptrap。

　　记者：你提出“裸体奥运”的概念后，有人就跟着提出“裸体授课”等一系列与裸体有关的概念，你觉得它们可以相提并论吗？

reporter：You put forward“Nude Olympics”After the concept of，Someone followed put forward“Naked teaching”And a series of relevant concepts and naked，Do you think they can par？

　　翟振明：这些其实都是他们的一些戏言。我之前也承认，在日常生活中穿衣服是有它的道理的。只不过奥运会不是日常生活，两者是不同的。再说他们对我关于“裸体奥运”的提法存在很大误解。

ZhaiZhenMing：These are some of the joke。I also admit that before，In daily life to wear clothes is has its reason。The Olympic Games is not only in daily life，The two are different。They say to me about“Nude Olympics”There is a big misunderstanding of the formulation。

　　记者：有怎样的误解？

reporter：What is the misunderstanding？

　　翟振明：我所倡议的是“允许”裸体奥运，而不是“要求”裸体奥运，这两者之间是有很大差别的。这里的允许，说的就是一种包容，一种接纳。我的想法是，你可以不喜欢裸体，但你不要妨碍别人裸体，毕竟，古希腊的奥运会曾经是裸体的。前一阵子德国艺术体操队拍了一系列的裸体照，后来还被登在了杂志的封面上呢。

ZhaiZhenMing：I have initiative is“allow”Nude Olympics，not“requirements”Nude Olympics，This is a great difference between the。Here's to allow，Say is a kind of tolerance，A kind of acceptance。My idea is，You may not like nude，But you don't disturb others in the nude，After all，The ancient Greek Olympic Games was naked。For a while before German art gymnastic team took a series of naked as，Then to be published in the magazine's cover it。

　　记者：你这里谈到的“允许”，有没有一个“被允许”的门槛？

reporter：You talked about here“allow”，Is there a“allowed”threshold？

　　翟振明：美国普林斯顿有一个传统延续了二十几年，后来取消了，是什么呢？二年级的学生开一个叫“裸体奥运会”的东西，其实不是奥运会，就是下第一场雪的时候，在严寒的情况下，二年级的学生男男女女出来裸体开party，后来有一年没下雪，二年级的学生没机会搞这个。第二年，二年级和三年级的学生一起搞，搞得太疯狂了，造成了一个治安问题，所以被取消了。

ZhaiZhenMing：Princeton has a traditional lasted for more than 20 years，Later cancelled，? What is？Second-year students open a call“Nude Olympics”things，In fact is not the Olympic Games，Is the first field of snow，In severe cases，Student in grade two men and women out naked open party，Then one year didn't snow，Second-year students have no chance to make this。The second year，Grade two and grade three students get together，Too crazy，Caused a public security problem，So was cancelled。

　　在此之前为何能坚持下来？就是因为这种行为没有损害到什么个人或公共利益，只是与大众的风俗习惯相左而已。什么叫不道德？我没有损害你，你来干涉我，你就是不道德，这是最基本的文明道德观。所以对裸体的污名化应该被纠正过来。

Before this why can persist？It is because this kind of behavior no damage to any individual or the public interest，Just and public customs just contrary。What is immoral？I didn't harm you，You to interfere in my，You is immoral，This is the most basic moral civilization。So to naked stigmatized should be rectified。

　　记者：评论中有人谈到大学教授应该研究一些更贴近生活、更实际的东西，你怎么看？

reporter：Review some people talk about university professor should study some of the more close to the life、More practical things，What do you think of？

　　翟振明：这个就很贴近生活啊，都关乎到穿衣服的问题了，还不贴近生活？在我看来，在奥运会禁止裸体本来就是不合理的，即便我不喜欢裸体，我也要提出取消禁令。这就是权利意识、尊重人的意识，“将讲理进行到底”的意识，还不够贴近生活吗？

ZhaiZhenMing：This is very close to the life ah，About the problem of wear clothes，Don't close to life？In my opinion，In the Olympic Games banned naked is supposed to be reasonable，Even if I don't like nude，I also want to lift the ban is put forward。This is the right consciousness、Respect the person's consciousness，“The reasonable through to the end”consciousness，It is not enough to close to life？

　　记者：即便你不喜欢裸体也不要反对禁止裸体，这个怎么讲？

reporter：Even if you don't like nude also don't oppose banned naked，This how to speak？

　　翟振明：学术研究、公共事务立法等，是不应该带有个人的情感色彩的。我是搞伦理学的，所谓伦理学，其任务之一，就是要将一些不合理的，反人性的道德观念或习惯、或意识形态提出来，最终去打破它们。这才是真正的人文知识分子要做的东西，也是大学要做的东西。当初鲁迅写的《狂人日记》、《阿Q正传》，做的不就是这些么？所以没有道理的东西，就算它已经成为一种风俗，我们也要“伤风化”。

ZhaiZhenMing：Academic research、Public affairs legislation, etc，Is not should be with personal emotional color。I'm on the ethics，The so-called ethics，One of its tasks，Is to some unreasonable，Reverse human moral ideas or habits、Or ideology out，Finally to break them。This is the real humanistic intellectuals to do things，Is also the university to do things。Had written by lu xun《A madman's diary》、《The true story of ah Q》，Do not is the yao？So there's no reason to things，Even if it has already become a custom，We also want to“Injury weathering”。

　　这是我作为一个搞伦理学的人的责任，其中是没有带上任何的个人情感色彩的。你让我带头去裸体运动，或许我本人就很反感裸体啊！或许我看到裸体就会吐，看到裸体就会马上掉头走啊！这样的话，就算你告诉我去了就能拿金牌我也不去。但是无论我再怎么反感裸体，只要“禁止裸体”是不合理的，反人性的，我就要带头发起批判反思。不过，这些只是为了说清问题做的假设，实际上，我不反感裸体。

This is my as a make ethics of human responsibility，Among them is not bring any personal emotional color。You let me take the lead to go naked movement，Perhaps I resent naked ah！Maybe I see naked will vomit，See naked will soon turn to walk！so，Even if you tell me the way to the can take gold medal I will not go。But no matter how again I dislike naked，As long as“Ban naked”Is not reasonable，Reverse human，I will take the lead launch critical reflection。but，These just to say clear problem do hypothesis，In fact，I don't dislike naked。

　　记者：“裸体奥运”一文最早是在国外网站登出，势必也在一些国外网友中引起了反响，国外的反响与国内的一样吗？

reporter：“Nude Olympics”A penny saved is the earliest in foreign site，Certainly will also in some foreign net friend has caused the repercussions，Foreign and domestic repercussions？

　　翟振明：在国外也有一些反响，但是和国内差别比较大。首先是反响没有那么大，也有人提出反对意见，但是没有骂人的。

ZhaiZhenMing：In foreign countries also have some echo，But and domestic difference is bigger。The first is not so big repercussions，Also some people have objected，But there is no call names。

　　记者：为什么会出现这样的差别呢？

reporter：Why is there such a difference？

　　翟振明：首先美国这个网站的受众具有一定的特性，他们一般都是在各种想法上“最聪明，最出色”(网站自己的说法)的人，而网站登出的文章也大多是最勇敢、最出色但又有道理的想法，所以他们对我的想法接受度会比较高。但是，就算这篇文章登到他们的纸媒上，也不会引起很大的反响。他们对裸体这个事情已经习惯了，也不觉得这是一个什么负面的东西，现在国外很多维护各种权益的机构，在进行游行示威的时候，很多就是用裸体来引起别人注意的。(文/图记者徐静实习生吴才林)

ZhaiZhenMing：First the United States this website audience has certain characteristics，They are commonly in all kinds of ideas“The most intelligent，The best”(Website own stories)people，And site article also mostly is the most brave、The most outstanding but reasonable idea，So they to my idea accept degree is high。but，Even if this article on the their on including，It doesn't cause a lot of repercussions。Their naked this thing has been used，Also don't think this is a any negative things，Now many foreign countries and maintain all kinds of rights and interests of the mechanism，In the demonstration of the time，A lot of is to use naked to cause the attention of others。(Wen/diagram reporter XuJing interns WuCaiLin)