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中大教授炮轰SCI 称已成中国学术毒瘤--亲稳网络舆情监测室
2012-09-03

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  “现在的大学老师没有两三篇SCI,没有达到一定的影响因子,想评职称没门!”

"Now the university teacher no two or three article SCI,Does not meet certain influence factor,Want to professional evaluation no way!"

  “SCI是美国一个盈利的公司,通过评价这些来赚钱,我们国家却把它当个宝!”

"SCI is the United States a profitable company,Through the evaluation of these to make money,Our country has put it as a treasure!"

  “中国的大学教授,要用美国的SCI杂志作为标准来衡量,这对我们的大学而言是个灾难性的问题。SCI在中国已演变成一个毒瘤!”在昨日举行的广州论坛专家集体访谈会上,中山大学数学与计算科学学院教授、广东省计算科学重点实验室主任许跃生痛批国内学术界“唯SCI论英雄”,认为其毒害了国内许多发文量不够的优秀教师。中山大学副校长陈春声也现场“声援”许跃生,认为将SCI看得像30年前刚引进中国时一样重不合适,且中大已在今年的博导遴选方案里,大幅弱化SCI的作用。

"China's university professor,Want to use American SCI journals as a standard to measure,This to our university is a disastrous problem.SCI in China has evolved into a cancer!"In yesterday's guangzhou BBS experts group interview meeting,Sun yat-sen university mathematics and computer science professor/Guangdong province, director of the key laboratory of computer science XuYueSheng pain group of domestic academia"Only SCI theory hero",Think its poison the domestic many were identificated and not enough good teacher.Sun yat-sen university vice President ChenChunSheng also field"support"XuYueSheng,Think will SCI look like 30 years ago just when introduced into China as heavy as inappropriate,And cuhk has in this year's doctoral selection in the scheme,Greatly weakening the role of SCI.

  “美国SCI决定中国教师职称”

"The United States SCI decided to Chinese teachers title"

  昨日访谈现场,有记者问及高校教师为何不愿去企业搞科研。许跃生回答这个问题很直接,他认为一是观念问题,二是体制问题。“体制问题就是大学评价体系,对教师到企业做发明不鼓励。中国的大学教授要用美国的SCI杂志作为标准来衡量,这对我们的大学而言是个灾难性的问题。”

The interview yesterday,A reporter asked about university teachers' why don't you want to enterprise make scientific research.XuYueSheng answer this question is very direct,He thinks that one is concept,The second is system."System is the university evaluation system,For teachers to enterprise do not encourage invention.China's university professor with American SCI journals as standard to measure,This to our university is a disastrous problem."

  据其介绍,目前国内的高校一般是以在SCI(美国《科学引文索引》)中发表论文等作为评教授职称的标准,即老师、专家的科研成果要发布到这样的杂志才对评职称有好处,原创性的小发明发表在小杂志上无效,不被评价体系认可。许跃生认为,“假如这个评价体制不改变,我们的大学是没法发展的,我们的原创研究也是没法发展的!”

According to its introduction,At present domestic university general based on SCI(The United States[Science citation index])In published as evaluation standard of professor title,Namely teacher/The achievements of the scientific research experts to release to this magazine to professional evaluation has the advantage,Original small invention published in the small magazine is invalid,Don't be evaluation system recognition.XuYueSheng think,"If this evaluation system does not change,Our university is can't development,Our original research is also can't development!"

  他接着“吐槽”:现在的大学老师没有两三篇SCI,没有达到一定的影响因子,想评职称是没门的。“现在大家都在比SCI,自己有了多少影响因子。我跟大家讲,SCI是个什么东西。SCI是美国一个盈利的公司,通过评价这些杂志来赚钱的。而所谓‘影响因子’,就是杂志每年发表的文章被其他杂志引用数除以它本身发表的文章数。就是这么个简单的东西,我们国家却把它当成个宝!”

He then"Vomit tank":Now the university teacher no two or three article SCI,Does not meet certain influence factor,Want to professional evaluation is of no way."Now everyone in than SCI,You have much influence factor.I and told everybody,SCI is what things.SCI is the United States a profitable company,Through the evaluation of these magazines to make money.The so-called‘Impact factor’,Is the magazine published articles each year by other magazine quoted by dividing the number itself publish the article number.Is such a simple thing,Our country has put it as a treasure!"

  “我们太过于看重国外这种评价体系了,太在乎一个老师SCI论文的数量。SCI在中国已演变成一个(学术)毒瘤!”许跃生指出,如果这种评价体系不改变,大学老师等就不敢到企业做发明,就会遏制企业的创新发展。

"We too value foreign this evaluation system for,Too care about a teacher the number of SCI papers.SCI in China has evolved into a(academic)cancer!"XuYueSheng pointed out that,If this evaluation system does not change,University teacher wait, you don't dare to enterprise do invention,Will contain enterprise's innovation and development.

  “SCI指挥棒毒害许多好老师”

"SCI baton poison many good teachers"

  许跃生告诉记者,自己现在这个做超级计算的团队,很多人都是顶着不评职称的风险在努力搞科研。“我跟大家怎么讲?你在国内评不了职称,我把你搞到国外去评职称!有时候没办法,就只能求着校领导,因为很多老师在做一些很原创性但是又不能发表论文的工作。”

XuYueSheng told reporters,His now this do supercomputing team,A lot of people are crest not professional evaluation risk in an effort to make scientific research."I told everyone how to speak?You can't in the domestic evaluation title,I put you get to go abroad professional evaluation!Sometimes can't,Can only ask the school leader,Because a lot of the teacher doing some very original but also cannot published work."

  记者还了解到,许跃生所在的广州超级计算中心有一个讲师,十余年来勤勤恳恳、任劳任怨地教书育人,且教授的课程设计变化很大,课件时常更新,其他老师都不太愿意接手。此外,他还参与团队搞技术研究与研发,而这些都不是一下子就能看到成果的。因此,他没能在近五年完成评职称所需的SCI论文数,很多年过去了,他仍只是个讲师。去年,学院与学校领导考虑到该讲师对教学对团队的贡献,给他评了高级讲师。“评职称只看发表了多少篇SCI,对他这样的好老师,太不公平。”许教授感慨。

Reporters also learned,In XuYueSheng guangzhou supercomputing center has a lecturer,Ten years diligently/Bears the burden of responsibility to impart knowledge and educate people,And the professor's curriculum design changed a lot,Courseware often update,Other teachers are not too would like to take over.In addition,He also participate in the team to carry out technical research and development,And these are not was able to see the results.therefore,He can't in the past five years to complete professional evaluation the SCI papers,For many years past,He is still just a lecturer.Last year,Institute and the school leader considered the lecturer to teaching for the team's contribution,Give him the evaluation of senior lecturer."Professional evaluation only look at published many articles SCI,For he such a good teacher,It's not fair."Xu regrets.

  许跃生提出质疑,“我们要有自己的评价体系,为什么我们要用SCI来衡量?为什么要拿SCI作为指挥棒?”他说,这个问题他曾在一个“千人计划”活动中提过,很多人都有相同感觉,认为这是一个很致命的问题。他说自己在国外当教授20多年,从来没有这么强烈的感觉,美国并不强调SCI,评教授会“教学与科研并重,社会活动作参考”。

XuYueSheng questioned,"We want to have their own evaluation system,Why do we want to use SCI to measure?Why take SCI as a baton?"He said,The problem he had in a"One thousand people plan"Activities mentioned,Many people have the same feeling,Think that this is a very fatal problem.He said yourself in a foreign country for more than 20 years, as a professor,Has never been so strong feeling,The United States does not emphasize SCI,Review professor will"Both teaching and scientific research,Social activities for reference".



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