白岩松：

BaiYanSong:

　　梦桃源餐厅一下子出名了，于是也有记者赶紧进北大去采访这个餐厅，结果发现这个餐厅就是一个人均60到100之内顶多算中档的餐厅，而且记者去采访完了之后，很难把这样一个场所和邹教授在爆料当中所谓淫乱，给大家产生豪华的联想的饭店对接起来。

The dream of a famous restaurant,So also have reporters hurry into the north to interview this restaurant,The results showed that this restaurant is a per capita within 60 to 100 is at most midrange restaurants,And the reporter to interview after all,It is difficult to put such a place and professor zou in support of the so-called fornication,For everyone to produce luxurious association hotel butt up.

　　另外还有一个在这件事情起步的时候，是一个带点严肃的新闻，大家关注它，慢慢变成了看客和围观，正在向娱乐新闻的方向大范围前进，但是如果生活中的很多事情，都如同过往的一些热点问题，每次都是热热闹闹讨论一番，最后全都不了了之，热点的问题只会让我们心里感觉更凉，那么要不要举起法律的武器，要向专家求证。

In addition to a in this matter when starting,Is a bring serious news,Pay more attention to it,Slowly into the tourists and onlookers,Is to the direction of the entertainment news on a wide range,But if life in a lot of things,As the past some hot topics,Every time is a fact that discussion,Finally all disappear,Hot spot problem will only make our hearts feel more cool,So don't raise legal weapon,To expert verification.

　　接下来我们要连线中国政法大学刑诉法的专家洪道德，洪教授，您好。

Next we will attachment points of China university of politics and law experts HongDaoDe,Professor hong,How do you do.

　　洪道德中国政法大学刑事诉讼法教授：

HongDaoDe China politics and law university professor of criminal procedure law:

　　您好，主持人。

How do you do,The host.

　　白岩松：

BaiYanSong:

　　邹教授起码到现在为止也跟北大在进行沟通，可是都没有拿出更加真正能当成证据的证据。为此，北大可以拿起法律的武器，来起诉邹教授吗？

Professor zou at least so far with Peking University and the communication,But didn't take out more can really as evidence of evidence.therefore,Peking University can take legal weapon,To prosecute professor zou?

　　洪道德：

HongDaoDe:

　　如果从民事角度还是可以的，但是要提起刑事诉讼可能目前还不具备条件，这是因为邹教授没有对北大进行所谓的捏造事实、诽谤北大，他是对北大里面的一部分人说到他们有这样、那样的违法违纪的行为，所以就北大来讲，应该说它只是间接受到了名誉权上的侵权，民事起诉可以，刑事诉讼目前来讲还不具备。

If from civil Angle can,But to institute criminal proceedings may not yet have a condition,This is because of Peking University professor zou not on the so-called fabricated facts/Slander north,He is right in north part of people said they had such/That the behavior of violations of law and discipline,So in terms of Peking University,It should be said that it is only indirectly affected by the reputation of the infringement,Civil prosecution can,Criminal procedure in terms of now still do not have.

　　白岩松：

BaiYanSong:

　　民事起诉的话，该是一种什么样的方式呢？谁来做呢？

Civil prosecution words,This is a kind of what kind of way?Who will do?

　　洪道德：

HongDaoDe:

　　北大当原告，告邹教授，他这种爆料给北大带来了名誉上的损失，降低了社会对北大的评价，要求原告，一方面停止这样的爆料，另外一方面，对过去的不实爆料进行赔礼道歉。

North when the plaintiff,Against professor zou,He this blog to Peking University brings reputation losses,Reduce the society on the evaluation of Peking University,Requirements the plaintiff,On the one hand to stop such leaks,On the other hand,For the past not real leaks to offer an apology.

　　白岩松：

BaiYanSong:

　　也就是惩治的力度要小得多。

Also is the punishment dynamics are much smaller.

　　洪道德：

HongDaoDe:

　　小得多，不可能引起对邹教授人身自由上的剥夺，这是不可能的，因为民事里面不允许这么做。

A much smaller,Don't may cause to professor zou personal freedom of deprivation,It is not possible,Because civil inside not allowed to do so.

　　白岩松：

BaiYanSong:

　　我们再换一个方式，如果要让北大的一些院长或者教授起诉他可能性不大，那不是此地无银三百两了吗？我特别真正关注的一个人群形象受损，恰恰是梦桃源68个工作人员，尤其是其中年轻的姑娘们，她们将来人生路还很长，会不会被人们联想这个、联想那个，将来指指点点，她们可以拿起法律武器吗？

We'll change a way,If want to let some of the dean professor of Peking University or against him unlikely,It's not there is no silver three hundred and twenty?I am very real concern a crowd damaged image,Is the dream of 68 staff,Especially for the young girls,Their life in the future is still very long,Will not be people think this/Association that,Pointing fingers in the future,They can take legal weapon?

　　洪道德：

HongDaoDe:

　　如果北大的教授、系主任、院长们倒是反而可以提起刑事诉讼，我指的是北大学校本身没有办法提起刑事诉讼，但是被点到的这些岗位、点到这些职务，凡是在北大这段时间里面担任过教授、系主任、院长这些人，如果谁觉得自己实在忍受不了的话，倒反而可以提起诉讼。

If Peking University professor/dean/The dean is but may bring the criminal litigation,I mean the north school itself has no way to institute criminal proceedings,But the point to this post/Point to the position,Those who in the north this time it served as a professor/dean/Dean these people,If who feel really can't stand words,But it may bring the suit.

　　白岩松：

BaiYanSong:

　　他也提到了梦桃源的服务员，服务员是不是也可以？

He also mentioned the dream taoyuan waiter,The waiter whether can also?

　　洪道德：

HongDaoDe:

　　因为梦桃源的服务员就提到内容来看是一个受害者，受害者有的时候很难说名誉上面受到了多大的侵害。

Because of dream of the attendant mentioned the content to see is a victim,The victim sometimes it's hard to say how much reputation by above violations.

　　白岩松：

BaiYanSong:

　　邹教授现在已经跟北大联系了，前些天说只跟中纪委联系，符合程序？能变成现实吗？

Professor zou has now with Peking University contacted,The other said only contact with the commission for discipline inspection,Conform to the program?Can become a reality?

　　洪道德：

HongDaoDe:

　　如果把他掌握的材料直接举报给中纪委，我想中纪委会有所反应的，至于是不是中纪委亲自来查，要看案件的具体情况，也可能中纪委交给下面的省一级、市一级，甚至有可能直接交给教育部的纪检组来调查，这个可能性都有，但是必须要提供真实的证据材料。否则的话，光是这么一说，不可能启动调查程序。

If his mastery of the material directly report to the commission for discipline inspection,I want to commission for discipline inspection will respond,As for whether the commission for discipline inspection to check in,To see the actual circumstances of the case,May commission for discipline inspection to the provincial level/City level,Even may directly to the ministry of education JiJianZu to investigate,The possibility has,But must provide the real evidence materials.otherwise,Light is so say,Could not start investigation procedure.

　　白岩松：

BaiYanSong:

　　非常感谢您接受我们的采访。

Thank you for accepting our interview.

　　洪道德：

HongDaoDe:

　　好，再见。

good,goodbye.

　　白岩松：

BaiYanSong:

　　在这里其实也非常希望能用法律的程序给大家最后一个交待，因为公众不会满足于仅仅在这里围观，还是希望得到真相，因为不光是对北大，对我们将来的大学教育，也通过一次又一次地寻找真相的过程当中，才能够建立真正的信心。

Here is also very hopes to use legal procedure for everyone to the last one is explained,Because the public not content just to here onlookers,Still hope to get the truth,Because not only is to Peking University,For our future university education,Also through again and again looking for the truth process,To set up a real confidence.

　　另外《中国青年报》的曹林也说，“不仅要就事论事地向邹恒甫开通热线，更应该建立一种受理举报的制度通道。大学要自主，教育要独立，首先要有能力自主地清理门户。”我非常同意。所以这件事最担心的就是不了了之，最期待的就是给公众一个期待的答案。

In addition[The China youth daily]CaoLin also said the,"Not only to case by case to ZouHengFu opened hotline,More should establish a accept the report system of the channel.University to independent,Education to be independent,First of all to have the ability to independently cleaning portal."I quite agree to.So it most worried about is nothing,The most expect is to give the public a look forward to answer.