晨报讯（首席记者 姜葳）在昨天的北京团讨论会场，十八大代表、首钢焊工刘宏说起自己因无学历报名焊工培训班被拒的经历，同是十八大代表的北大和清华两位书记当场表示将要研究继续教育和职业教育等问题，甚至“抢着”请刘宏到本校进修。

Morning news(Chief reporter ginger flourishing)In yesterday's BeiJingTuan discuss the meeting,Eighteen big represents/Shougang welding 19 Richard f about his because does not have the degree the welder training rejected experience,With is 18 representative's Peking University and tsinghua university two secretary said on the spot to research continue to education and vocational education problems,even"Rob to"Please 19 Richard f to our study.

　　昨天，十八大代表、首钢总公司技术研究院用户技术研究所焊工刘宏在北京团第三次全体会上发言结束时，十八大代表、代市长王安顺“点题”说，“刘宏，北大、清华的书记也在这儿，你把上次座谈会说的教育和实际工作脱节的事儿再讲讲。”

yesterday,Eighteen big represents/Shougang corp. Institute of technology users technical institute welding 19 Richard f in BeiJingTuan third plenary meeting at the end of the speech,Eighteen big represents/Acting mayor wang"Bring out the theme"said,"19 Richard f,north/Tsinghua's secretary also here,You put the last forum say education and actual working disjointed business more about."

　　被点将的刘宏有些意外。她回忆说，去年有个焊接工程师培训班，已是高级技师的她前去报名，但因不符合“全日制大本理科毕业生”的报名条件被拒。“我拿出全国劳模技术能手证书，人家说‘不好使’。我说我不要工程师证书，交费听课行吗？人家说‘那也不行’”。

At 19 Richard f is of some accident.She recalled,Last year a welding engineer training class,She is senior technician to sign up,But because they do not meet the"Full-time big this science graduates"Application condition was rejected."I take out the national labor model technology expert certificate,The somebody else say‘Not make’.I said I don't engineer certificate,Pay to attend a lecture ok?The somebody else say‘That is not’".

　　朱善璐代表笑着插嘴问：“不是北大、清华的培训班吧？”“希望北大、清华也能办！”刘宏说，自己的实操经验达到了一定程度，但专业理论知识还差一块，不利于创新能力的开发。“产、学、研不能分家。和我合作的不是清华大学博士就是海归，他们说理论说得头头是道，但应用到实际中不好使。”刘宏说起去年公司做“海工钢”试验时，曾连续8个板子都出现通体裂纹，她跟博士同事讨论焊枪预热的温度、母材与焊材是否匹配。“这些问题在理论书上提到过，但他们没见过”。

ZhuShanLu representative smile get a word in edgeways asked:"Peking University is not/Tsinghua university, the training course?""Hope that north/Tsinghua can also do!"19 Richard f said,Their own real operating experience to a certain extent,But professional theory knowledge also sent a piece,Go against the development of the innovation ability."production/learn/Research centre can't.And I cooperation is not dr tsinghua university is the returnees,They say theory pronouncing on,But the practical application of not make."19 Richard f about last year's company do"Marine steel"test,Once continuous eight boards all appear connect body to crack,Dr. She told colleagues torch preheating temperature/Mother material and welding material is matching."These problems in theory book mentioned,But they haven't seen".

　　几次没有抢上话头的朱善璐代表见缝插针地说，“你提的问题是教育的普遍问题。”刘宏代表继续以正在进行的职业技能大赛为例，共有204个工种、50万人参加，这些人的学历最好的是大专、次的是技校，他们的理论水平不提高，将来就是“纯干活”的，做不好创新，建议搭建继续教育的平台学习专业理论。

A few times did not steal the thread of conversation on the ZhuShanLu representative avail oneself of every opportunity to say,"The question that you propose education is the common problem."19 Richard f representatives continue to ongoing professional skills contest, for example,A total of 204 a type of work/500000 people attended,These people education is the best in college/Time is technical school,Their theoretical level don't improve,The future is"Pure work"of,Do bad innovation,Suggest structures to continue education platform learning professional theory.

　　“你这个问题涉及继续教育、职业教育，又涉及非职业继续教育和普通高等教育怎么打通的问题。”朱善璐代表接口说，这个问题在胡锦涛总书记的报告中也有所论及，他笑称技能动手方面拥有工科的清华比北大还要强，而北大想给道德模范、先进人物等办个班，可以搞继续教育、成人教育，还可以不要学历长知识。四周的掌声立刻响起来，刘宏代表连说：“对对对！”

"You this question involves to continue education/Vocational education,And involves amateurism education and continue to common higher education how to get through."ZhuShanLu representative interface said,The problem in the general secretary hu jintao's report will be deals with,He began to laugh says skills has engineering of tsinghua than north and strong,And north want to give moral models/Advanced characters do a class,Can make to continue education/Adult education,Can also don't degree long knowledge.All round of applause rang to immediately,On behalf of the 19 Richard f even said:"To to the rightness!"

　　清华大学书记胡和平代表也接过话表态说，刘代表的例子反映了理论和实践相结合的教育理念问题，技能人才继续教育问题则是机制体制问题。“你本人和团队的问题，我们清华大学可以来解决”。

Tsinghua university secretary hu peace representative also took the words said,Liu representative example reflects the combination of theory and practice of education idea problem,Skills talents to continue education problem is mechanism system."You I and team problem,We tsinghua university can to solve".

会后追访 After the meeting after visit

刘宏代表：期待学习班早日办起来 19 Richard f representative:Look forward to early to do up class

　　刘宏代表会后告诉记者，王安顺代市长的点题内容是她在今年8月参加一次座谈会时的发言，“当时王市长就点头称好，今天邀请我再讲一遍，说明对我意见的认可和重视”。

19 Richard f representative told reporters after the meeting,The acting mayor wang the theme content is she in August to participate in a symposium spoke,"At that time king mayor nodded say good,Today invited me to speak again,Explain to my opinion of accreditation and attention".

　　对于北大、清华两位书记的表态，刘宏代表表示非常期待，期待继续教育的学习班能早日办起来。

For the north/Tsinghua two secretary statement,19 Richard f representative said very much looking forward to,Look forward to continuing education classes will soon run up.