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中国政法大学教授何兵:我觉得没必要设虐童罪--亲民维稳网络舆情监测室
2012-11-21

EF ef T: 10px; border: #d4d4d4 1px solid;" class="abstract bgB clear STYLE1">    T: 10 px; Border: # d4d4d4 1 px solid;" Class ="Abstract bgB clear STYLE1">   编者按: Editor's note:两个小时,5次雷鸣般的掌声。因言辞犀利风趣而闻名法学界的中国政法大学教授、法学院副院长何兵11月17日做客岭南大讲堂·公众论坛。在谈及近期舆论热点“温岭虐童”案时,他认为“没必要设虐童罪,虐童罪跟伤害罪有什么区别?我觉得没有必要这样,伤害儿童加重处罚,这是量刑上的一个情节。没有必要再制定那么多罪了。”… Two hours,Five thunderous applause.Because words sharp wit and famous law professor of China university of politics and law/Vice President of the school of law HeBing on November 17, guest lingnan lecture hall · public BBS.Recent public opinion, in talking about hot spot"Possessing child abuse"Case when,He thinks"No need to set of child abuse sin,Child abuse sin and mayhem have what differentiation?I think there is no need to this,Damage children's severe penalty,This is sentencing on a plot.There is no need to reenact so much sin."...更多精彩>> More wonderful>> 中国政法大学教授何兵:我觉得没必要设虐童罪   11月17日上午,南都公众论坛嘉宾何兵在作题为《从三打两建看人民司法》的演讲。 实习生 熊俊敏 南都记者 冯宙锋 摄 On November 17, morning,SMW public BBS guests in HeBing entitled[From three dozen two built see people's judicial]speech. Interns XiongJunMin SMW reporter FengZhouFeng perturbation

  我倒觉得没必要设“虐童罪”,“虐童罪”跟伤害罪有什么区别?我觉得没有必要,伤害儿童加重处罚,没有必要再制定那么多罪了。

I think no need to set"Child abuse sin","Child abuse sin"What is the difference between with mayhem?I think there is no need,Damage children's severe penalty,There is no need to reenact so much sin.

  南都讯 两个小时,5次雷鸣般的掌声。因言辞犀利风趣而闻名法学界的中国政法大学教授、法学院副院长何兵11月17日做客岭南大讲堂·公众论坛。在座无虚席的学术报告厅里,何兵与近百名听众分享了他对中国司法过去及未来的看法。他认为“中国面临着社会风气和社会方式的根本改变”,“公正的审判绝不畏惧公众的舆论和评论”。

SMW - two hours,Five thunderous applause.Because words sharp wit and famous law professor of China university of politics and law/Vice President of the school of law HeBing on November 17, guest lingnan lecture hall · public BBS.In the full academic report hall,HeBing and nearly audience share him on China's judicial the past and the future view.He thinks"China is facing a social atmosphere and social way the fundamental change","Fair trial never fear of public opinion and comments".

  会后,这位活跃于微博,拥有30多万粉丝的博主接受南都专访时,还结合司法公开等话题,“客串”成了“时事评论员”,一一点评目前网上的热点案件。

After the meeting,The active in micro bo,Has more than 30 fans blogger accept SMW interview,With such issues as the publicity of the administration of justice,"Guest star"became"commentators",One comment on current online hot case.

  在谈及近期舆论热点“温岭虐童”案时,他认为“没必要设虐童罪,虐童罪跟伤害罪有什么区别?我觉得没有必要这样,伤害儿童加重处罚,这是量刑上的一个情节。没有必要再制定那么多罪了。”

Recent public opinion, in talking about hot spot"Possessing child abuse"Case when,He thinks"No need to set of child abuse sin,Child abuse sin and mayhem have what differentiation?I think there is no need to this,Damage children's severe penalty,This is sentencing on a plot.There is no need to reenact so much sin."

  整个演讲过程,何兵用几十张PPT演示文稿向听众们回顾了过去中国司法的发展历程,强调了保证司法独立和司法公正的重要性。“如果司法公正,人民能通过法院找到正义,社会就不会出现大问题。如果司法是不正义的,老百姓不能通过法院找到正义,就只有上访。所以,从战略上,只要我们建立了公正廉洁的法院,就可能实现社会的基本稳定,相反就会出现问题。”何兵认为,法院的建设也是保证司法公正的重要因素。

The whole speech process,HeBing with dozens of zhang PPT presentation files to the audience reviews the past Chinese judicial development course,Emphasis on the guarantee judicial independence and the importance of the judicial justice."If the judicial justice,People can find through the court of justice,Social there won't be a big problem.If justice is unjust,Common people can't find justice through the court,Only appeal.so,From the strategic point,As long as we established the impartial and honest court,Can realize the basic social stability,Instead there will be a problem."HeBing think,The court's construction is an important factor that the judicial justice.

  

谈“司法公开” Talk about"Judicial public"

  南都:你在这次讲座中,提到了许多关于司法公开方面的观点。近年来,广东省司法机关也在强调司法公开,比如法院和检察院开设微博,做庭审直播。你觉得司法机关在做司法公开化方面的工作,需要注意那些方面?

SMW:You in this lecture,Mentioned a lot about judicial public aspects.In recent years,Guangdong judicial organs are also emphasize the publicity of the administration of justice,For instance courts and procuratorates to open small bo,Do live trial.Do you think the judicial organ in judicial glasnost aspect work,Need to pay attention to those aspects?

  何兵:我觉得法院公开是司法公开的一小部分,和我所谈的司法公开是两码事,(比如)法院开微博选择一些案件来公开审理,关键是对老百姓比较关注的案件能否公开,媒体的报道是不是不受限制,这才是主要的。

HeBing:I think the court in public is a small part of the publicity of the administration of justice,And what I talk about judicial public are two different things,(For example)Court open micro bo choose some case to trial in public,The key is to common people of concern to the case can open,Media reports is not restricted,This is the major.

  南都:目前一些案件比如食品安全类案件,和一些涉及未成年人的刑事案件在网上都会引起关注。很多网友对判决结果表示不满意,觉得量刑过轻。你认为出现这样的情况是因为老百姓对法律认知感性化,还是目前相关法律法规有待完善?

SMW:At present some cases such as food safety cases,And some involved in criminal cases of minors online can cause attention.Many netizens to decision said not satisfied,Think sentencing underweight.Do you think that appear such circumstance because people of legal cognitive finally,Or current related laws and regulations need to be improved?

  何兵:比如说食品安全案件,我们确实判得比较轻,因为这个东西从危害性的角度来说,直接就是谋财害命,所以总的来说我觉得还是要把老百姓作为陪审员来陪审,政府就没有压力了。我相信大部分办案人员和老百姓的直觉还是比较正确的。

HeBing:For instance food safety case,We really found more light,Because the things out of the dangerous point of view,Direct is thuggery,So generally speaking I feel or the people as a juror to jury,The government is no pressure.I believe most investigators and common people's intuition or is correct.

  

谈“虐童”案件 Talk about"Child abuse"case

  南都:近期,“温岭虐童”案件在网上很热。虐童案中的女教师近日也被认定不构成犯罪后被释放。你对这个案件作何评价?

SMW:recent,"Possessing child abuse"The case on the Internet is very hot.Child abuse case of female teachers recently was also believed to be released after does not constitute a crime.For the case you how evaluation?

  何兵:不构成犯罪不代表不构成治安违法,要看具体的情节,实际上她(给当事儿童)的伤害是肯定构成的,所以故意伤害罪怎么不构成呢?我们以前说故意伤害,会强调肉体(伤害)的客观标准,比如肋骨断了三根属于重伤,肋骨断了一根属于轻伤,就没有考虑给人的精神损害,如果把精神损害算进去,那我觉得那确实也可以重新考虑是否构成犯罪了。

HeBing:Does not constitute a crime is not representative does not constitute a security illegal,To see the specific circumstances,In fact she(Parties to children)Damage is a must,So how does not constitute a deliberately harm?We used to say deliberately hurt,Will emphasize the flesh(damage)Objective standard,Such as frame broke three root belong to serious injury,Frame has broken a root belong to minor injuries,There is no consider giving people's spiritual damage,If the spirit damage are included,That I think it really can also to consider whether the constitutes a crime.

  南都:围绕这个事件,法学界发出了两种声音,有人认为要专门设立一个虐童罪,也有人认为如果行政机关惩处到位,不需要设置一个新罪名。你怎么看?

SMW:Around this event,Law issued two kind of voice,Some people think that to set up a child abuse sin,Also some people think that if any of the administrative organs in place,Do not need to set up a new charges.What do you think of?

  何兵:我倒觉得没必要设“虐童罪”,“虐童罪”跟伤害罪有什么区别?我觉得没有必要,伤害儿童加重处罚,伤害没有自卫能力的人加重处罚,这就可以了,这是量刑上的一个情节。没有必要再制定那么多罪了。打成年人几个耳光和打儿童几个耳光没有什么区别的,主要就是(儿童)没有自卫能力,加重处罚就完了。

HeBing:I think no need to set"Child abuse sin","Child abuse sin"What is the difference between with mayhem?I think there is no need,Damage children's severe penalty,Damage not self-defense ability severe penalty,This can be the,This is sentencing on a plot.There is no need to reenact so much sin.Play adults few a slap in the face and playing children a few a slap in the face no difference,Is mainly(children)No self-defense ability,Aggravated punishment is finished.

  

谈“国家赔偿” Talk about"State compensation"

  南都:媒体之前报道过“黄立怡获国家赔偿”的案件,引起网上热议。《法制日报》点出广东省在精神抚恤金方面做得很好,其他省市尽管把精神赔偿纳入国家赔偿几年,但在实践中还欠缺细则。你认为出现这一问题的原因是什么?

SMW:The media reported before"HuangLiYi won the state compensation"case,Causes of hot debate online.[Legal daily]Highlighted in the spirit of guangdong province in pension do very well,Other provinces and cities even though the spirit into the state compensation for a few years,But in practice are lacking rules.Do you think the problem of what be the reason?

  何兵:其实国家赔偿法已经开始精神赔偿了。我们要回归法院的本来面目,现在法院搞精神赔偿,那不是考虑法的问题,要考虑政府愿不愿意赔,政府是不是有抵触情绪。你把一个人关了十几年,不应该赔偿人家精神损失吗?这在法理上没有什么好多说的,就是说我们法官的独立性,他判的时候很少根据法理来弄。

HeBing:In fact the state compensation law has already started to compensate the spirit.We want to return to the court's true colors,Now the court is make mental compensation,That's not to consider the problem of method,Want to consider the government would like to compensate,The government is there outlaw motion.You put a person off more than ten years,Should not pay for their spiritual loss?What is there in the legal many say,That is we the judge's independence,He found little time according to legal to make.

  采写:南都记者任先博 实习生 王玥璐 周世玲

Collection &composition:SMW reporters as first bo interns WangYue ZhouShiLing ruby

  

相关评论: Relevant comments:

  

温岭虐童案尚有疑问需解释 Possessing child abuse case there is doubt to explain

  从高调刑事立案,到低调放人,温岭虐童案真可谓一波三折。其间到底发生了什么,公众至今仍坠云雾中。既然已经侦查终结,按理说,警方已将案件事实彻底查清,作为影响巨大的公共事件,应该向社会作一个完整的交待,但遗憾的是,温岭警方对于此案的信息公开,并不令人满意当初基于什么理由和证据抓人;继续侦查时到底发现了什么新的事实,遇到什么情况,从而促使看法改变整个办案过程,缺乏一个明晰的信息公开。[详细](新京报)

From high-profile criminal put on record,To low-key put people,Possessing child abuse case really is full of twists and turns.Meanwhile exactly what happened,The public is still falling in the clouds.Since you have conclusion of investigation,By rights,The police have the facts of the case will check up thoroughly,As a great influence public events,To the society should be a complete confessed,But it is a pity that,Possessing the police for the case of the information publicity,What was not satisfactory based on reason and evidence to catch a person;Continue to investigation the when found any new facts,Meet what circumstance,That prompted view change the handling process,The lack of a clear information openness.[detailed](The Beijing news)

事件回放: Event playback:

>>起因:浙江温岭虐童幼师系无证上岗 称因出于"好玩" >>cause:Zhejiang possessing child abuse fine system without card mount guard says because of"fun"

知情人士爆料称颜艳红从事教师职业系无证上岗,该情况被证实无误。

A source says people familiar with the YanYanGong engaged in teachers' professional system without card mount guard,The case was confirmed and correct.

>>拘留:温岭幼教虐待幼童被刑拘 拍照女教师被拘留7日 >>detention:Possessing preschool education abuse children were XingJu photos female teachers in custody 7

10月25日,颜某因涉嫌寻衅滋事犯罪,被警方刑事拘留,另一名参与拍照的女教师童某,因寻衅滋事被作出行政拘留7日的处罚。

On October 25,,Yan a suspicion of stir-up-trouble crime,Be the police criminal detention,Another name to participate in the pictures of the female teachers a child,Because stir-up-trouble been made to administrative detention 7 of punishment.

>>处理:浙江温岭幼师虐童续:事发幼儿园园长被免职 >>processing:Zhejiang possessing fine TongXu abuse:The kindergarten is dismissed calls

10月27日,虐童教师颜某所在幼儿园的蓝孔雀幼儿园园长已被免职。当地教育局从公办幼儿园抽调人手进驻该幼儿园管理。

On October 27,,Child abuse teacher yan in a kindergarten blue peacock kindergarten the principal has been removed.The local education bureau from public kindergarten transfer hands in the kindergarten management.

>>观点:上海律协研讨温岭虐童案 学者支持"暂不批捕" >>view:Shanghai LvXie discussion possessing child abuse case scholars support"Temporary not among"

大部分专家、学者对于检方的"暂不批捕决定"予以肯定,认为从罪刑法定的原则出发,肇事老师的行为入刑确实有些牵强。民主法治需要一切遵从法律,法无明文规定不为罪,这是应坚守的底线。

Most experts/Scholars of the prosecution"Temporary not among decision"Be sure,Think from the principle of a legally prescribed punishment for a start,Hit and the teacher's behavior into punishment does have some far-fetched.Democracy and the rule of law need all to comply with the law,Method the absence of express stipulation is not a crime,This is should stick to the bottom line.

>>观点:专家呼吁设"虐童罪"罪 盘点各国保护儿童法规 >>view:Experts called for a"Child abuse sin"Sin inventory countries protect children regulations

>>当事人:温岭虐童案幕后调查:颜艳红的生活碎片 >>The parties:Possessing the child abuse case investigation:YanYanGong life fragments

>>当事人:受虐儿童正在接受专家心理干预 >>The parties:Battered child is undergoing expert psychological intervention

>>独家策划:教师虐童堪称恐怖片,禽兽如何混进幼师队伍? >>Exclusive planning:The teacher is child abuse horror movie,How do animals in fine team?




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