张菲与孩子们的感情很深。羊城晚报记者 林桂炎 摄 Opens and the children's feelings deep.The yangcheng evening news reporter LinGuiYan perturbation 普宁“拾荒妈妈”张菲带着4个病孩在广州武警医院治病。 PuNing"Glean and collect scraps mother"Opens with four sick children in guangzhou armed police hospital cure.

　　张菲带4个病孩到广州看病，普宁民政局追到广州劝她把收养的12个孩子送福利院，张菲不愿意：“不能因为袁厉害出事就拿我开刀”

Opens the band four sick children to see a doctor to guangzhou,PuNing civil affairs bureau back to guangzhou advised her adopted 12 children send welfare homes,Opens the don't want to:"Cannot because yuen severe accident took my operation"

　　文/图 羊城晚报记者 吕楠芳 孙朝方

Wen/diagram the yangcheng evening news reporter LvNanFang DPRK sun

　　1月8日，普宁“拾荒妈妈”张菲带着4个1岁左右的婴儿再次来到广州武警医院。

On January 8,,PuNing"Glean and collect scraps mother"Opens with four 1 years old baby come to guangzhou again armed police hospital.

　　4个婴儿一男三女，一个患脑积水，一个患先天性心脏病，一个唇腭裂，一个腿疾。他们都是张菲去年收养的。武警医院答应帮他们募捐治疗。

4 a baby men and three women,A with hydrocephalus,With a congenital heart disease,A cleft lip and palate,A leg disease.They are all opens the adopted last year.Armed police hospital promised to help them to the treatment.

　　然而，张菲和孩子们到医院的第二天一早，病房里来了几个普宁民政局的领导。领导们想说服张菲把收养的孩子全部送到福利院。1月9日下午5时多，张菲见到记者时哭着说：“我的心从来没像现在这么乱，不能因为河南的袁厉害出事了就拿我开刀啊！”

however,Opens and children to the hospital the second day early in the morning,Ward to several PuNing civil affairs bureau leadership.Leaders want to persuade opens the adopted children all send to welfare homes.On January 9, more than 5 p.m,Opens the reporter saw when cried:"My heart never like now so disorderly,Cannot because henan yuen badly had an accident with my o operation!"

　　普宁民政局昨天给医院寄来两万元治疗费，并给张菲送来2000元慰问金。

PuNing civil affairs bureau yesterday to the hospital to send twenty thousand yuan treatment,And sent to opens the 2000 yuan consolation money.

　　

普宁民政局长连夜追到广州 PuNing civil affairs director overnight back to guangzhou

　　张菲从山东一路流浪到广东普宁已快25年，今年她不到60岁，但是看上去像80岁的老人。漫长的流浪拾荒路上她在垃圾堆、河边路旁先后把30多个弃婴捡回家，有的孩子已长大成人，有的被好心人领养，现在留在她身边的还有12个孩子。1月8日张菲第二次来广州，本是为4个病婴治病，但就是这趟出门，引起了当地政府的注意。普宁市民政局局长魏奕楼1月8日深夜亲自带着几名工作人员赶来广州劝说张菲。

Opens the way from shandong stray to LTD; guangdong puning is almost 25 years,Sixty years old this year, she can't,But looks like a 80 - year - old man.Long vagabond glean and collect scraps on the way she in landfill/The river has more than 30 by the abandoned baby home to pick up,Some children have grown up,Some are good intention to adopt,Now stay at her side and twelve children.January 8 opens the second to guangzhou,This is for four baby cure disease,But it's the journey,Cause the local government's attention.PuNingShi civil affairs bureau chief WeiYi floor 1 August night himself with a few employees to guangzhou persuade opens.

　　普宁市民政局认为张菲实在没有能力抚养这么多小孩，希望张菲把孩子们送去福利院。这次态度之坚决，让张菲觉得“心好乱”。为了做好张菲的思想工作，民政局也作出让步：可以安排张菲去福利院工作，和孩子们一起生活。但张菲希望和孩子们有个属于自己的家。

PuNingShi civil affairs bureau think opens the was not capable of raising so many children,Hope opens the send their children to welfare homes.The attitude of the resolute,Let opens the feel"Heart good disorderly".In order to do the ideological work opens,Civil affairs bureau also make concessions:Can arrange opens the welfare to work,And children live together.But opens the hope and the children have their own home.

　　

送孩子去福利院谈了好多年 Send their children to talk about the welfare homes for many years

　　为孩子的收养问题，民政部门与张菲已交涉多次。

For the child's adoption,Civil affairs department and opens the already negotiate many times.

　　2011年11月，张菲带着5个病孩第一次从普宁到广州武警医院接受治疗，经媒体报道后引起广泛关注。一个拾荒女，靠捡垃圾抚养十几个孤儿，好心人听说后纷纷捐款，省民政厅和普宁当地民政局也给予关注。

In November 2011,Opens with five sick children from the first time PuNing to guangzhou armed police hospital for treatment,After the media reports aroused widespread concern.A female glean and collect scraps,By picking up litter raising ten several orphans,After heard that man in donations,Provincial bureau of civil affairs and PuNing local civil affairs bureau also give attention.

　　然而，关于张菲式收养是否合理合法的争议也随之而来。省民政关负责人当时接受记者采访时表示，张菲对弃婴的抚养、监护并不等同于合法收养，为了孩子们有更好的治疗和生活条件，应由当地民政系统来承担孩子们的抚养和监护责任。

however,About opens type adopt whether reasonable legal dispute also followed.The provincial civil affairs shut when accepting a reporter to interview said,Opens the abandoned baby to support/Care is not the same as legal adoption,In order to the children have a better treatment and living conditions,Should the local civil administration system to take the children's care and guardianship liability.

　　时任普宁市民政局局长方剑也表态，希望张菲把孩子都送去福利院。一年多过去了，由于张菲的坚持，孩子们仍然留在张菲身边。

The PuNingShi civil affairs bureau chief FangJian also declare,Hope opens the children sent to welfare homes.More than one year have passed,Due to opens,The children are still stay in opens the side.

　　

张菲心痛：孩子怕是要送走 Opens the heartache:I'm afraid to send children go

　　1月9日，追踪张菲而来的民政局一行领导的表态让张菲感觉，孩子们这次真的要被带走了。

On January 9,,Opens the tracking of the civil affairs bureau a line of leadership still let opens the feeling,The children really want to be taken away.

　　“从来没有这么严重过，我怕我坚持都不行了，现在我的脑子很乱，不知道怎么办。”张菲告诉记者，民政局认为她一个人能力实在有限，怕带孩子过程中出什么事，希望她回普宁后配合民政部门，把孩子们都送去福利院。

"Never so severe,I'm afraid I insist all not a line,Now my brain is very chaotic,Don't know what to do."Opens told reporters,Civil affairs bureau think she a person ability is really limited,In the process of children afraid of what,Hope she back after PuNing with civil affairs departments,The children were sent to the welfare home.

　　张菲认为，如果没有一周前河南兰考那场火灾，没有袁厉害失去7个孩子的悲剧，领导的态度不会这么强硬。

That opens the,If there is no a week ago LanKao henan the fire,No yuen badly lost the tragedy of seven children,Leadership attitude won't be so tough.

　　“不能因为她(袁厉害)出了事就拿我开刀啊！谁养的孩子谁心疼，如果送走了我这么多年的心血都白费了！”张菲几近哽咽地对记者说，她自己有信心有能力把孩子抚养好、教育好。

"Can't because she(Yuen badly)An accident took my operation ah!Who have children who love dearly,If off me so many years of efforts were wasted!"Opens the nearly SOB to reporters,She oneself have the confidence to have the ability to bring up their children well/Education good.

　　

对话张菲：我有能力培养孩子 Dialog opens the:I have the ability to raise children

　　

记者： reporter:

　　普宁民政局之前跟你提过让孩子们去福利院的事吗？

PuNing civil affairs bureau before mentioned to you let the children go to welfare homes?

　　

张菲： Opens the:

　　以前也提，但感觉这次最严重，我一开始也不知道是什么原因。

Also mention before,But feel this is the most serious,I also don't know in the beginning what reason be.

　　

记者： reporter:

　　是怕你一个人带着孩子会出事吗？

Are you afraid of a person with a child will have an accident?

　　

张菲： Opens the:

　　他们是这样讲的。我收养孩子20多年了从来没遇过什么事，现在出了兰考袁厉害的事却来拿我开刀。

That's what they say.I adopted children more than twenty years have never met what matter,Now out of the LanKao yuen bad things are to take my operation.

　　

记者： reporter:

　　你为什么坚持不让孩子们去福利院？他们说可以让你一起搬过去。

Why do you insist on not to let the children go to welfare homes?They say can let you move in together.

　　

张菲： Opens the:

　　在他们手下我日子怎么过啊，我得看人脸色，我这一生都不愿看人脸色，不愿求人。我本来想有个地方给我和孩子们生活，但绝不是福利院。

In their hands the day I how,I have to look at,My whole life did not want to face,Don't want to ask for help.I wanted to have a place to give me and the children live,But it is not welfare homes.

　　

记者： reporter:

　　如果真像他们担心的，你和孩子遇到什么困难，你该怎么办？

If true as they worry about,You and the children meet what difficulty,What should you do?

　　

张菲： Opens the:

　　不会的！以前那么艰苦我都没怕过，把孩子们带大了就没有问题，我有能力培养他们。

Won't!So hard before I haven't afraid of,The children have no problem,I have the ability to cultivate them.

　　

对话民政局长：想说服她去福利院 Dialogue civil affairs director:Want to persuade her to go to welfare homes

　　

记者： reporter:

　　这次为何这么急着赶来广州？

The why so hurry to guangzhou?

　　

魏奕楼： WeiYi floor:

　　来广州找张菲主要是跟她商量两件事，一是看看4个在医院的病孩怎么治疗，跟医院商定治疗方案，二是说服她回去后把孩子们送去福利院。

Come to guangzhou find opens is mainly to discuss with her two things,One is to look at four of the sick children in the hospital how to treat,Agreed with the hospital treatment,The second is to persuade her to send their children to the welfare home.

　　

记者： reporter:

　　你们怕她带着孩子会出事吗？

You afraid she took the children will have an accident?

　　

魏奕楼： WeiYi floor:

　　一直以来我们都在跟张妈妈沟通，2011年之前一直沟通，2011年也请了省民政厅协调做她的工作。家里就她一个人，带着那么多小孩，意外的事会有很多。她这样收养，小孩的户口也成问题，教育等后续问题很多，总不能老是由民政局到处协调，如果去了福利院，至少能解决户口的问题，找学校也会一路开绿灯。

We've always been in communication with a mother,Until 2011, communication,2011 please also province bureau of civil affairs coordination to do her job.The home she a person,With so many children,Accident there will be many.The way she adopted,Child's registered permanent residence is also a problem,Education and the subsequent problems,Can't always by the civil affairs bureau and coordination,If you go to the orphanage,At least can solve the problem of registered permanent residence,Look for the school will give all the way.

　　

记者： reporter:

　　现在有没有一个比较好的解决方案？

Now have a better solution?

　　

魏奕楼： WeiYi floor:

　　我们普宁市政府8日晚连夜开了协调会，希望跟她沟通好，妥善处置这个事情。现在我们试着说服她先挪个窝，去福利院“试”住一段时间看看。

We PuNingShi government 8 late night opened the meeting,Hope to communicate with her good,Proper disposal this thing.Now we try to persuade her to move a nest,To welfare homes"try"For a period of time to see.