多名大学校长都说，还贷“压力山大”，欠债主因的确是扩招华农6年来努力还了近12亿，还欠贷款5个亿，校长坦言：

Many university President said,Owing on the loan"Pressure shandong",Debt is indeed cause enrollment in 6 years China farming efforts are nearly 1.2 billion,Still owe loans 5,The headmaster said:

　　新快报记者陈红艳 陈杨 冯艳丹 牟晓翼 郑锐

New express reporter ChenGongYan ChenYang FengYanDan MouXiaoYi ZhengRui

　　昨日，“广东50所省属高校借贷近百亿”的消息一出街，就如重磅炸弹般引发关注，也引发高校校长的“共鸣”。新快报记者采访多名大学校长，他们都说还贷压力大。华南农业大学校长陈晓阳更是坦言：华农至今还欠债5个亿，若不上调学费，他无论如何都无法在自己三五年的任期内还清欠款！

yesterday,"Guangdong provincial universities that fifty lending nearly hundred million"News of a street,As the blockbuster, cause attention,Also cause the university President"resonance".New express reporters many university President,They all said owing on the loan pressure.South China agricultural university President ChenXiaoYang is said:China farming is still in debt 5,If you don't raise tuition,In any case he can in his 35 years of tenure pay back the money!

　　

华农 China farming

　　

最高时曾欠债16.8亿 The highest debt was 1.68 billion

　　华农校长陈晓阳坦言，华农还欠银行整整5个亿，而这个欠贷数字在2006年更达16.8个亿，6年多来华农已努力还款近12亿元。“6年能还这么多(钱)，是因为我们收回了几个亿的土地欠款，同时政府帮华农还了4个亿，其他部分则靠学费和住宿费贴补还款。”

China farming the principal ChenXiaoYang said,China farming still owe the bank $for five,And this owe credit digital in 2006 more 16.8,More than six years farmers in China have tried to reimbursement nearly 1.2 billion yuan."6 years can also so much(money),Because we take several hundred million land arrears,At the same time the government help China farming also 4,The other part by tuition and accommodation subsidize reimbursement."

　　“还款‘压力山大’，相当艰难。如果不上涨学费，我任期的三五年内，也就是我这一届领导班子，华农是绝对还不清5个亿的！”陈晓阳透露，目前省属院校生均拨款为7600元，加上每年的专项资金拨款，也没达到国家规定的生均拨款平均数1.2万元目标。他表示，要想还清贷款，生均拨款必须达到1.2万元，“我又不能乱收费，除了指望政府加大投入，我没别的办法！”

"reimbursement‘Pressure shandong’,Quite difficult.If you don't rise tuition,The term of office of the I 35 years,I was the leadership team,China farming is absolutely not clear 5!"ChenXiaoYang revealed,Provincial colleges and universities at present all funding for 7600 yuan,With the special fund every year,Also didn't meet the national requirements on them appropriation average $12000 goal.He said,If you want to pay off the loan,All funds must be reached 12000 yuan,"And I can't collect fees in disorder,In addition to expect the government increased the investment,I have no choice!"

　　陈晓阳还说，未进驻大学城的高校，比进驻了大学城的高校欠债更多，因为当年政府一次性帮大学城内高校的教学区部分贷款都清还了。而造成高校负债累累的核心原因，就是扩招，学生增加了，学校的座位、床位、实验室等必须跟着增加，“这就逼着高校去贷款”。

ChenXiaoYang also said,Not in the university city college,In the city than college debt more,Because the government one-time help university college of the school districts in the city part of the loan is the event.And cause the core reason for debt,Enrollment is,Students increased,School seat/beds/Laboratory and must follow increase,"It is forced to go to the loan".

　　

广工 Wide working

　　

目前还欠债近2亿元 There is nearly 200 million dollars in debt

　　广东工业大学校长陈新介绍，广工目前还欠债接近2亿元，基本都是大学城建设时期留下来的债务，这部分贷款此前主要用于大学城校区生活区的基础设施建设等。

Guangdong industry university President, Chen xin is introduced,Guangdong industry is still in debt to nearly $200 million,Basic is university city construction period to stay debt,This part of the loan after university campus living quarters is mainly used for infrastructure construction, etc.

　　“其实各家省属院校的财政压力都很大。幸好当年政府帮我们将大学城校区里教学区部分的贷款全部偿还了(指2007年政府一次性安排清偿经批准的贴息的高校教学设施及设备贷款149.2亿元)，各个学校只需负责各自大学城生活区的借贷还款，否则债务负担比现在更重。”陈新表示。

"In fact each provincial colleges and universities financial pressure are very big.Fortunately, the government will help us university campus school districts in the part of the loan paid back in full(In 2007 the government to pay a one-off arrangement approved discount of university teaching facilities and equipment a loan of 14.92 billion RMB),Schools need to responsible for their respective university city living quarters of the loan repayment,Otherwise the debt burden heavier than it is now.", Chen xin said.

　　他指出，现在高校的各项运营成本都在增加，作为学校，还贷主要依靠学费、住宿费，“对高校而言，若没有政府财政拨款的帮助，还贷真是举步维艰”。

He pointed out that,Now all the operation cost is increasing,As a school,Rely mainly on the loan tuition/accommodation,"The university is concerned,If there is no government financing to help,The loan is really struggling".

　　

广商 Wide business

　　

北区建设资金还在筹集 North construction funds still raise

　　本次民进广东省委提案中还指出，“广商由于办学经费来源渠道主要是财政拨款和学费，目前学院校本部北区建设只完成了一部分”。对此，广东商学院有关人士昨日回应称，广商校本部北区建设目前进展顺利，至今仍在施工中，目前已完工近半，且已开工项目的资金均已落实，未开工项目的资金也在筹集中。但该人士婉拒了新快报记者了解广商整体债务情况的请求。

The guangdong provincial party committee, China would also pointed out,"Wide business because the school funding sources mainly is financial appropriation and tuition,At present college school cadre north construction only partially completed".this,Guangdong college officials responded that yesterday,The wide business school north construction at present goes well,Still in construction,Has completed nearly half,And already project funds have been implement,Not project funds raised in the.But the people declined the new express reporter understanding wide business overall debt situation request.

　　

广医 GuangYi

　　

需分8年还清贷款13亿 Need points and eight years to pay off the mortgage 1.3 billion

　　不过，也有个别高校“无贷一身轻”，如市属高校广州大学就完全没有债务，该校校长庾建设笑言，“我们不欠银行一分钱”。

but,Also have individual university"Without credit, out of danger",Such as Beijing college of guangzhou university is no debt,The school's headmaster, meanwhile construction smiled and said,"We don't owe the bank a penny".

　　难道广州大学比其他高校都富裕？庾建设解释，并非如此，广州大学的钱也不够用。但是当年建设大学城校区时，广州大学用市区内黄金地段的4个老校区，跟政府进行置换(至今只保留了桂花岗1个老校区)，所以广州大学大学城校区建设的所有贷款，都由政府偿还了。“即便没债务，我们还是觉得钱不够花，也希望政府能增加拨款。”

Guangzhou university is better than other universities are rich?Meanwhile construction explain,Is not so,Guangzhou university money also not enough use.But the university campus construction when,Guangzhou university city gold section with within four old campus,With the government for replacement(So far only retains the sweet osmanthus duty one old campus),So the construction of guangzhou university city campus all loans,By the government paid."Even if no debt,We still think haven't enough money to spend,Also hope that the government can increase funding."

　　同为市属高校的广州医学院，就没广州大学这么轻松了。记者了解到，为了建设广医番禺新校区，2009年，广医向银行贷款13亿元，贷款利息由广州市政府负担。广医将分8年还清本金。

As Beijing college of guangzhou medical college,Guangzhou university is not so easy.The reporter understands,In order to build GuangYi panyu new campus,In 2009,,GuangYi to bank loans of 1.3 billion yuan,Loan interest by guangzhou municipal government burden.GuangYi will be divided into eight years to pay off the principal.

　　

建议 Suggestions

　　

中山大学常务副校长许家瑞：中大每年获得的拨款发工资都不够 Sun yat-sen university XuGuRui executive vice President:Each year the university for funding pay enough

　　

高校欠债应厘清哪些由政府负担 The debt, we need to clarify what burden by the government

　　新快报讯昨日，省人大代表、中山大学常务副校长许家瑞接受新快报记者采访时表示，对于教育负债，政府应详细解剖，哪些该政府承担；与此同时，教育投入占比应立个规定，到底“够”还是“不够”，不能光凭双方说辞。

Dispatch of new wall bulletin yesterday,On behalf of the provincial/Sun yat-sen university executive vice President XuGuRui accept new express a reporter to interview said,For education liabilities,The government should be detailed anatomy,What the government is taking;meanwhile,Education investment should be made of more than a regulation,exactly"enough"or"enough",Can't light on both sides of cleopatra.

　　许家瑞认为，欠债的问题需两方面来看，一方面谁也不愿意欠债，但是这些年高等教育发展的速度很快，政府的投入，特别是硬件方面也没跟上。但里面是不是有个别学校没有把握好、自己去弄的，不清楚。他认为，首先要分析一下这些债务是怎么形成的，哪一些该由政府来负担。比如说大学城建设时就很清楚，当时是以政府主导。后来政府把教学区的贷款偿还了，生活区的贷款就由学校偿还。以此可见，各个学校形成贷款的情况不一样，所以第一要分析贷款是怎么形成的。有一部分是政府要学校贷款的，那这部分是不是应由政府来偿还。

XuGuRui think,The debt problems need two side,On the one hand who also don't want to owe,But over the years of higher education developing very fast,The government's investment,Especially hardware also didn't keep up with.But it is there individual schools did not hold good/Yourself to make,Don't know.He thinks,First to analyze the debt is how form,Which the burden by the government.Such as the construction of city is very clear,At that time is the government-leading.Then the government school districts in the loan repayment,The living quarters of the loan repayment by the school.To visible,Each schools form loans situation is different,So the first analysis of loan is how to form.Some is the government to school loans,It is part shall be repaid by the government.

　　“说实话，现在整个物价水平都在提高，人力成本也在提高，我们一年从政府拿到的拨款发工资都不太够，我们要收学费才行。”许家瑞表示，现在都是按生均拨款。有的省是1.2万元，广东才7000多元。“如果我们一个教师的工资是1万元/月，那一年就是12万元，需要十几二十个学生的拨款才够。但我们还有公共支出，例如水电费，一年就几千万。还有几千个退休教师，都要发工资。拨款肯定是不够的。”

"To tell you the truth,Now, the price level is on the rise,The human cost is high,We get a year from the government funds pay are not enough,We have to charge fees to just go."XuGuRui said,Now all is according to the funding them.Some provinces is 12000 yuan,Guangdong only 7000 multivariate."If we a teacher's salary is 10000 yuan/month,The year is 120000 yuan,Ten to twenty students' funding is enough.But we still have public spending,Such as water and electricity,A year millions.There are thousands of retired teachers,Will pay.Funds must be not enough."

　　

观点 view

　　

择校费根源并非欠债而是优质学位太少了 ZeJiaoFei root is not in debt but quality degree is too little

　　作为省人大代表，许家瑞今年有一个建议：更好地发展广东省的民办教育。因为在他看来，“择校费”的产生根源并不是学校欠债而来“卖学位”，而是优质学位资源太少。

As a provincial representative,XuGuRui this year have a suggestion:Better development of guangdong province private education.Because in his view,"ZeJiaoFei"The causes and not in school and to"Sell degree",But high quality degree resources too little.

　　“现在大家对择校生、借读都有看法，但实际上根本的问题在哪里？最根本的问题是广东省各层面的教育优质学位资源太少，不符合社会的需求。”许家瑞说，经济水平好了，老百姓都很注重孩子的教育，都希望上个好学校，这就像买房一样成为刚性需求。

"Now everybody to ZeJiaoSheng/Unwelcome have views,But the fact is that the fundamental problem in where?The most fundamental problem is the guangdong province level of education quality degree too few resources,Does not conform to the needs of society."XuGuRui said,The economic level,People are very pay attention to children's education,All hope in a good school,It is like to buy a house as rigid demand.

　　他介绍，本来公办教育，特别是义务教育阶段，国家的投入应以保公平为主。但现状是好学校基本上都是公立的，由省财政直接拨款。“这些学校本来就有很多投入，教学水平比较高，很多人想去，怎么办？”许家瑞说，如果社会有了很好的民办教育，市民就会选择，与其交那么多择校费上公办，不如就上好的民办学校。

He introduced,Was public education,Especially the compulsory education stage,Countries should be input to the fair is given priority to.But the present situation is good schools basically is public,By the provincial finance allocates funds directly."The school had a lot of investment,Teaching level is higher,A lot of people want to go to,do?"XuGuRui said,If society has a very good education run by the local people,People will choose,Better be alone than in so many ZeJiaoFei on as usual,As the good school of run by the local people.

　　

热议 Hot debate

　　

多名代表指盲目扩招导致大学生就业难 Many delegates refers to blind expansion lead to college students' employment difficult

　　

大学争着办赚钱的专业 高校办艺术系几近泛滥 University emulatively do make money professional institutes of art nearly flood

　　新快报讯 关于高校教育问题，昨日广州代表团多位代表认为，目前高校招生盲目扩大，与社会需求脱节。

Dispatch of new wall bulletin about the education problems,Yesterday more than guangzhou delegation on behalf of think,At present college recruit students expand blindly,And social demand disrupted.

　　社会一味要求培养高端人才，高校势必扩大招生。在全国人大代表李永忠看来，现在高校一味盲目扩招以文科为甚。因为文科生培养容易，有教师有教室就可以了，但是工科生成本高。盲目扩招直接导致了就业问题。他分析，现在很多大学生就业不了就分流，去部队当兵，去农村基层锻炼，“其实分流三年后还是不能就业。”

Social blindly requirements of high-end talent cultivation,College will be enlarged enrollment.The National People's Congress in li yongzhong looks,Now the only blind expansion in liberal arts why.Because the school of arts living culture easily,A teacher has classrooms is ok,But engineering raw high cost.Blind expansion led directly to the employment problem.He analysis,Now a lot of college students' employment did shunt,To the army,To rural grassroots exercise,"In fact shunt three years later still can't obtain employment."

　　省人大代表、广州市卫生局副局长唐小平对此也深有感触，认为医学院培养人才与卫生系统没结合起来，“医学院的学生毕业后不是卖药，就是搞别的。”

On behalf of the provincial/Guangzhou city health bureau deputy director TangXiaoPing are emotionally,Think medical college talents training and health system didn't combine,"Medical school graduates not to sell medicine,Is anything else."

　　有代表认为，高校办艺术系几近泛滥。省人大代表、广州雕塑院副院长陆增康表示，艺术系的招生也存在盲目性，“现在哪个学校没有办艺术系？”他说，包括华农等学校都办了艺术系，因为学费高。“什么专业赚钱，大学就办什么专业，不管毕业有无出路。”他强调，权力下放到每个大学，就失控了。

Delegates agreed that,Institutes of art nearly flood.On behalf of the provincial/Guangzhou sculpture, vice President of the court LiuZengKang said,The enrollment of art are also blindness,"Now which school did not do school of art?"He said,Including China farming and schools are done school of art,Because of the high tuition."What major to make money,University is a professional to do what,No matter whether graduation way out."He stressed that,Devolution of power to each university,Is out of control.

　　李永忠最后总结，高校招生需要规划。他建议，国家规划未来的20年以什么为主导，需要什么样的人才，然后由教育部下发工科类、文科类指标，各个大学来分指标。

Li yongzhong concludes,College recruit students to plan.He suggested that,The state planning future twenty years for what leading,Need what kind of talent,Issued by the ministry of education and engineering class/Arts indexes,Each university points index.