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广州教育城建设引担忧 位置偏僻成学生就业阻碍--亲稳网络舆情监测室
2013-05-03

大学城为题材的楼盘楼价直追珠江新城。 Depicting the university city estate prices catching up the pearl river new town.

  规划中的广州教育建设总面积将达30平方公里,相当于整个越秀区的面积大小,约等于荔湾区面积的一半。昨日,这一消息引起了社会各界的广泛关注,教育城应充分吸收广州大学城规划建设中出现的种种不足成为了关注的焦点。专家建议,教育城不能好大喜功,分多期开发应根据实际情况安排好规模和建设周期。

规划中的广州教育城建设总面积将达30平方公里,Equivalent to the entire yuexiu area size,Is equal to about half of the liwan district area.yesterday,The news caused a widespread attention from all walks of life,City of education should be fully absorbed in the guangzhou university city planning and construction of a variety of shortage became the focus of attention.Experts suggest that,Education can't lie,Points multiphase development scale and construction period should be arranged according to the actual situation.

  在资金筹集方面,专家特别提醒,教育城千万要避免过度开发商业,卖了太多的地给开发商,从而影响今后的发展。专家还建议政府部门牵头探索体制改革,真正让教育城实现资源共享。

在fund-raising方面,Experts special remind,Education city, be sure to avoid excessive commercial development,Sell too much land to developers,从而影响今after的发展.Experts also advise government led by exploring system reform,Real education city realize resources sharing.

  

建设规模 Construction scale

  

建议:根据今后实际安排规模和周期 advice:根据今after实际安排规模和周期

  

问题:30平方公里规模是否过大? The problem:30 square kilometers scale is too large?

  对于即将开始建设的教育城,广州各大职业学校早已多次表示赞同。广州市高级技工学校、广州市公用事业高级技工学校、广州城市职业学院、广州电子信息学校、广州铁路职业学院、广州卫生学校等院校负责人均表示,大手笔建广州职业教育基地,是职业教育难得的发展机遇,期盼院校能早日进入广州职业教育基地。

对于即将开始建设的教育城,Guangzhou each big vocational school already for many times, agrees.The senior vocational school in guangzhou/The utility senior vocational school in guangzhou/Guangzhou city vocational college/广州electronic信息学校/Guangzhou railway vocational college/Guangzhou medical schools and other institutions responsible for per capita said,Big building vocational education base in guangzhou,Vocational education is rare development opportunity,Looking forward to colleges and universities will soon enter the vocational education base in guangzhou.

  根据最新公布的规划方案,广州教育城如果全部建成,堪称“巨无霸”工程:一二期总体规划范围总面积约为20平方公里,超过了广州大学城所在地小谷围18平方公里的面积。此外还将同步扩展研究教育城周边约10平方公里的2片发展延伸区,30平方公里相当于整个越秀区的面积大小,约等于荔湾区面积的一半。

根据最新公布的规划方案,If completed education in guangzhou city,Is the"A big MAC"engineering:The scope of phase ii planning a total area of about 20 square kilometers,Than the guangzhou university town is located dell area of 18 square kilometers.Education will also be synchronous extension study 2 slices about 10 square kilometers of surrounding the city development zone,The area size of 30 square kilometers, equivalent to the entire yuexiu district,Is equal to about half of the liwan district area.

  如此大规模的教育城,可以容纳多少学生呢?据记者了解,广州目前职业技术教育在校生大约30万人,按照此前的方案,教育城一期(至2015年)初步预算共容纳12.78万学生进驻,二期(至2020年),容纳学生共20.77万人。根据规划,教育城将还可预留安排省属驻穗高校。

如此大规模的教育城,How many students can hold?According to reporter understanding,Guangzhou vocational and technical education students about 300000 people at present,According to the previous scheme,Education city issue(To 2015)A preliminary budget to accommodate students in 12.78,Phase ii(To 2020),Accommodate students a total of 207700 people.According to the plan,Will arrange provincial can obligate education city in guangzhou university.

  记者了解到,教育城建成之后,一些需要搬入的职业技术学校可能需要盘活原有校区等多种途径,获得足够的建设资金,才能进驻其中。这也意味着新校区的生源将有很大一部分来自于原有学生的存量,而不是未来的增量。

The reporter understands,教育城建成之after,That need to be moved into the vocational school may need to revitalize the original campus, such as a variety of ways,Adequate construction funds,Can be in the.This also means students will have a big part of the new campus from the original stock of students,Rather than incremental in the future.

  对于教育城建成之后,到底会有多少学生入住,在记者采访中,相关专家学者以及教育界人士均表示目前还不好估计。有专家担心,随着新生代人口的逐渐减少,如果教育城入住学生人数不足,可能会导致一定的浪费。“教育城分多期开发,除了资金等方面的压力外,为今后实际情况留有余地,进行合理修正可能也是一个重要因素。”专家分析。

对于教育城建成之after,How many students are there is checked in,In a press interview,Related experts and scholars and educators have said it is not good estimates.Some experts worry that,As the new generation of population gradually decreased,If the education city in the number of students,May lead to a waste."More than education city phase of development,In addition to capital pressure, etc,为今after实际情况留有余地,Reasonable modification may also be an important factor."Expert analysis.

  对此,广州社科院研究院彭澎建议,教育城要特别注意合理安排规模和建设周期。大学城由于投资贷款债务等原因,一些学校没有进驻,后来又在南面建设科技园区,拓展新的校区,形成为实际上的“大学城第二期”,现定名为“国际创新城”。从有关情况来看,广州教育城也有起步区、后续发展等考虑,这些都需要提前谋划好。

对此,Guangzhou academy of social sciences institute of Peng Peng Suggestions,Education city, it is important to pay special attention to the reasonable arrangement of the scale and the construction cycle.The university due to reasons such as investment loan debt,And some schools don't have to,after来又在南面建设科技园区,Develop a new campus,Form for actually"The second phase of the university city",Is entitled"International innovation city".From the relevant information,Have QiBuOu education in guangzhou city/after续发展等考虑,These all need to plan well in advance.

  

资金筹集 fund-raising

  

问题:建设资金从哪来? The problem:Construction funds come from?

  

建议:不能过度开发房地产 advice:Not excessive real estate development

  广州教育城规划总面积达30平方公里,所需要的建设资金必然十分庞大。根据此前的方案,广州教育城考虑从多渠道多形式筹措建设资金,如财政投入、公共配套设施社会化、原有校区盘活、教育城商业开发、学校自筹、社会捐赠、向上级申请、社会资金参与及BT、BOT等方式筹措资金。

广州教育城规划总面积达30平方公里,Needed for the construction of the capital is very large.According to previous plan,Considering education in guangzhou city from the multi-form raise construction funds through multiple channels,Such as financial investment/Socialization of public facilities/Revitalize the old campus/Education city commercial development/School self-raised/Social donation/Apply to the superior/Social capital to participate in and BT/BOT way to raise funds.

  对此,有网友担心,政府部门如果为了筹措建设资金,过度开发商业,卖了太多的地给开发商,可能会影响教育城今后的发展。“千万不能让教育城沦为一个地产项目。”一位网友评论说。

对此,Some netizens worry,If a government agency trying to raise construction funds,Excessive development business,Sell too much land to developers,可能会影响教育城今after的发展."Don't let the education city to become a real estate project."A netizen commented.

  网友的担心并非杞人忧天,尽管教育城项目目前仍在纸上,然而这一概念已被开发商作为“金字招牌”大肆宣传了,一些房产专家也开始鼓吹当地房地产的美好前景,而周边楼价也已蠢蠢欲动。

网友的担心并非杞人忧天,Although education city project is still on the paper,However, this concept has been as developers"signboard"The hype,Some real estate expert also began to preach the good prospects of local property,The surrounding property prices have also been stirring.

  对此,增城市民杨先生表示,广州教育城落户后,如果房价大幅攀升,原来住在附近的居民一般没有多少房产,其实并不能得到太多好处,他反而担心到时候生活成本会大幅上涨影响到自己的生活质量。“房价攀升最大的赢家只能是房地产开发商。” 杨先生担心,广州教育城会再次推高增城地价,掀起当地房地产开发热潮。

对此,Zengcheng citizens Mr Yang said,广州教育城落户after,If house prices rise sharply,Used to live in nearby residents generally don't have much property,Actually does not get much benefit,Instead, he worry in time cost of living will rise considerably affect their quality of life."House prices climbed the biggest winners are real estate developers." Mr Yang, worry,Education in guangzhou city will push Gao Zengcheng price again,The local real estate development boom.

  记者了解到,与广州教育城类似的大学城项目,此前也曾因房价过高而饱受质疑。早在2010年的省市两会上,广东不少高校教授多次炮轰大学城地王是借大学城环境搞房地产开发,向大学城高价房“宣战”。当时大学城房价最高涨至1.5万元/平方米。迎着教授的“炮火”,如今,大学城房价继续高涨,其房价一路飙升到现在的2万元/平方米以上,其中价格最高的甚至超过了3万元,价格直逼广州最核心的珠江新城等区域。

The reporter understands,Similar to education city in guangzhou university city project,Previously was in question because the prices was too high.As early as in 2010 provinces and cities two sessions,Guangdong many college professors repeatedly shelled university town land real estate development by college town environment,To the university town, and the price is room"A declaration of war".At that time, the university's housing prices soared to 15000 yuan/square meters.To meet the professor"fire",now,University city house prices to continue rising,Its housing prices soared to 20000 yuan/square meters,One of the highest prices even more than 30000 yuan,Price as the core area of the pearl river new town and so on in guangzhou.

  由于房价过高,大学的老师们也买不起大学城的房子,大学城沦为投资客的天堂。不少老师抱怨,因为无法住在附近,晚上要在大学城举行学术活动十分不便,导致大学城学术活动和师生交流远低于正常水平。

由于房价过高,University teachers also can't afford to buy a town house,University to become a paradise for investors.Many teachers complain about,Because can't live near here,The evening want to academic activities held in the university is very inconvenience,Lead to the university academic activities, and communication between teachers and students is far lower than the normal level.

  对此,彭澎表示,大学城没有教师住宅不能说不是大学城的一大缺陷,一到晚上,学生就被教师“一走了之地抛弃”,学生难以在课外与教师交流。他建议,广州教育城一定要把教师住宅考虑进去,可采取安居房和商品房结合的模式,并以此吸引师资更加积极地参与职教。

对此,Peng Peng said,No teacher college town housing can't say that is not a big university town,At night,Students are teachers"A walk the land abandoned",Students are difficult to communicate with teachers out of class.He suggested that,Guangzhou city education must take teachers housing into consideration,Can be combined to reside a room and commodity house pattern,To attract the teachers more active participation in vocational education.

  广州市市长陈建华此前也对此作出了特别要求:广州教育城的建设要吸取广州大学城的建设经验和教训,在打造好教育教学环境的同时充分考虑师生的生活、商业、文化等服务配套设施的建设。

广州市市长陈建华此前也对此作出了特别要求:Education in guangzhou city for the construction of the guangzhou university city construction experience and the lesson,In creating good education teaching environment at the same time give full consideration to teachers' and students' life/business/Cultural services for the construction of supporting facilities.

  

资源共享 Resource sharing

  

建议:政府牵头探索体制改革 advice:The government led by exploring system reform

  

问题:资源共享如何实现? The problem:Resource sharing how to do?

  据广州教育部门相关人士介绍,广州市6所市属高等职业院校、16所市属职业学校和6所市属技工学校(技师学院)的办学校区都很分散,占地面积较小,生均占地面积都达不到国家标准,严重制约了学校的发展。建设教育城除了为各校提供更充足的校园面积外,资源共享、优势互补也是一大目的。

据广州教育部门相关人士介绍,Guangzhou 6 city vocational colleges/16 city vocational schools and 6 city vocational school(Technician institute)School campus is very fragmented,Covers an area of small,China covers an area of all reach the national standard,Seriously restrict the development of the school.Construction education city in addition to the schools provide a more adequate area outside the campus,Resource sharing/Complementary advantages is also a big goal.

  教育城资源共享,这一目的能否真正实现呢?记者了解到,多年之前,广州大学城建设之初也宣称要建设“没有围墙的大学”,当时的设想就是大学城图书通借、课程兼修、文体设置共用,然而,实际上这些设想目前远远未能实现。比如图书馆,大学城内现有10所高校都建有自己的图书馆,但各图书馆建设上单打独斗,使用上各自为政,优势互补不见踪影。

教育城Resource sharing,This purpose can achieve?The reporter understands,Many years before,At the beginning of the guangzhou university city construction also vowed to construction"University without walls",At the time of ideas is the university town library loan/Course and repair/Style Settings share,however,Actually these ideas are far failed to deliver.Such as the library,University city has 10 colleges and universities has its own library,But the fight alone on the library construction,Use in their separate institutions,Complementary advantages.

  广州大学建筑与城市规划学院副教授汤国华表示,因为各校领导不同,资源分配也不均衡,大学城高校之间确实很难做到资源共享。

广州大学建筑与城市规划学院副教授汤国华表示,Because the schools leadership is different,Resource allocation is unbalanced,There is no way to achieve resources sharing between university city college.

  对此,广州市交通运输职业学校校长刘建平认为,各校资源各校管理的模式是无法实现资源共享的。但可以考虑引入“第三方”,把共同资源如公共图书馆、公共体育馆、公共实训中心等委托第三方管理,这样才能为共享铺路。

对此,The transportation in guangzhou vocational school principals think sd,Schools, schools of management mode is unable to realize resources sharing.But you can consider introducing"The third party",The common resources such as public libraries/The public stadium/Public training center management entrusted a third party,So as to pave the way for sharing.

  一位教育专家则建议,政府除了基础设施投资之外,还应该发挥统筹协调作用,综合利用各校的优势资源。“例如这个学校和那个学校都有这个专业,政府就可以统筹建立一个实训基地供大家一起用,就不用每个学校投建一个实训基地了,这样钱就可以用到最需要的地方。”

一位教育专家则advice,The government in addition to investment in infrastructure,Should also play a role of overall coordination,The advantage of resource comprehensive utilization of the schools."Such as the school and the school has the specialty,The government can plan as a whole to set up a training base for everybody,You don't have to every school building a practice base,So money can use the most needed areas."

  彭澎也认为,虽说大学城有图书通借、课程兼修、文体设施共用等设想,但实际上仍受制于各校的行政鸿沟,这涉及到学校体制改革。希望广州教育城在把学校集中起来的同时,探索体制改革,实现资源共享。

彭澎也认为,Although the university town library loan/Course and repair/Style facilities sharing of ideas,But in fact is still subject to administrative gap of the schools,This is related to the reform of school system.Hope together at the same time in the school education in guangzhou city,Explore the reform,Realize the resources sharing.

  

职业实践 Professional practice

  

建议:建配套措施支持学生实践 advice:Build form a complete set of measures to support the students practice

  

问题:周边实践机会是否充足? The problem:The surrounding whether adequate practice opportunities?

  与大学城不同的是,教育城除了普通的课堂教学,还需要进行大量的职业实践教育,需要与产业紧密结合。增城相关负责人介绍,教育城所在的朱村街的东面是广州城市副中心的核心区,未来人口规模将达200万,挂绿湖将打造成具有特色的“杭州西湖”,规划区内将建设千亩花园、挂绿荔枝园和荔枝万博园。该负责人认为教育城并非教学孤岛,学生的实习、就业等机会也较多。

与大学城不同的是,In addition to the regular classroom teaching education town,Also need a large number of professional practice education,Need and industry together.The relevant person in charge of zengcheng is introduced,Education city zhu village street east at a vice center of guangzhou city core area,The future will have a population of 2 million,Will make distinctive green lake"Hangzhou west lake",Planning area will build one thousand mu of garden/Green garden and litchi lychee expo garden.The thought education, head of the city is not teaching island,The student's internship/More employment opportunity also.

  对此,一位教育专家认为,“教育城周边目前还比较偏僻,周边大型的产业园区并不多。而增城的主要有汽车、牛仔服装等产业,这样的产业链条显然还不能满足所有职业院校的需求,还需继续优化和完善。”

对此,An education experts believe,"Education is still relatively remote surrounding the city,Surrounding a large industrial park is not much.And zengcheng mainly has a car/Cowboy clothing and other industries,This industry chain obviously can't satisfy all the needs of the vocational colleges,Still need to continue to optimize and improve."

  据记者了解,因为职校教育无法完全满足企业需要人才等原因,目前企业对教育城的反映普遍比较冷淡。

According to reporter understanding,Because vocational schools education cannot satisfy the enterprise need talent, etc,Currently enterprises reflect the education city is cold.

  中山大学教授袁奇峰教授认为,除非政府推动,否则企业去贴近教育城的可能性很小,应该反过来,由学校去贴近企业。他以佛山为例解释,以往职校也在中心城区,但现在都贴近了开发区,学校靠近工业园区,实训基地与企业连在一起,佛山的职教大发展,与工业园区的发展相辅相成。“不过他同时认为,只要教育城选址在交通便利的区域, 即便距离实训基地稍远一点,也不会对学生造成太大影响。

中山大学教授袁奇峰教授认为,Unless the government push,The possibility that firms go close to the city of education is very small,Should, in turn,,By the school to close to the enterprise.He in foshan as an example to explain,In the past vocational schools in the city center,But are now close to the zone,The school near the industrial park,Together with the enterprise practice training bases,Foshan vocational education development,And industrial park development supplement each other."But he thinks at the same time,As long as the education city area located in the convenient transportation, Even if the distance is a little distance training base,Also won't cause too big effect on the students.

  广东一所职校负责人表示,职业教育和企业实践结合,光靠学校的努力并不够。“既然政府决定建立这样一个教育城,就应该在政策上有所倾斜,希望政府能够出台配套的措施,让企业更好地配合我们,接纳我们的学生前往实习,这样的收益才会是双向。”(记者 刘怀宇)

广东一所职校负责人表示,Vocational education and enterprise practice,Only depend on the efforts of the school is not enough."Since the government decided to build such an education,Should be in policy tilt,Want the government to come form a complete set of measures,Allows companies to better cooperate with us,To accept our students to practice,Such income is bidirectional."(The reporter LiuHuaiYu)


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