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《汇聚U8名校论高考》系列访谈——南开大学--亲稳舆论引导监测室(5)
2013-05-07

搜狐教育主持人: Sohu education host:近些年许多学生直接选择放弃高考去海外留学,国内高校面临着优秀学生资源分流情况,您怎样看待这样一个现象呢? In recent years, many students choose to give up the university entrance exam directly go to study abroad,Domestic colleges and universities faces the outstanding student resource distribution,How do you think of such a phenomenon?

  

邵庆辉【南开大学招生办公室主任】: Shao Qinghui[The admissions office at the university of nankai]:近几年我知道高中学生毕业直接出国的比例真的有所上升,这个我觉得一是跟国家生活水平有所提高,经济上允许了,而且确实国外一些教育资源比国内发达,把孩子送到国外去学习,我们是可以理解的。但是对于国内高校来说的话,我觉得我们也有自己很多优势学科,也不一定国外都比我们好,这个孩子有所选择。如果他选的那个东西确实在国外发展得比国内要好,可能真的要选择出国了。反过来说有一些专业是我们国家所擅长的,和比较有优势的。这些孩子不一定盲目的选择出国,这个不能一概而论。对于大学来说,我觉得作为南开大学来说,对我们冲击力并没有那么明显。因为你说这是高中阶段,其实大学阶段现在出国的也很多,我觉得中国现在国际化进程也越来越快了。包括社会对全球来说,对中国整个的评价,真的是变化非常大。中国的整个国际地位是越来越高。所以中国人要走出去,跟国际化接轨,我觉得这是一个大趋势。而且这些人不是出去了就不回来了,我知道很多人国外学成以后要回归祖国,要报效祖国的。这是很好的良性循环。

I know that in recent years, graduated from high school students go abroad directly the proportion of true rose,I think this one is with national living standards have improved,Allow the economy,And do some education resources abroad than at home,Send children to go abroad to study,We can understand it.But for domestic colleges and universities,I think we have our own advantages,Does not necessarily foreign are better than us,The children have a choice.If he choose that thing really development in foreign countries is better than domestic,May really want to choose to go abroad.On the other hand there are some major is do well in our country,And more advantages.These children do not blindly choose to go abroad,This cannot treat as the same.For the university,I think as of nankai university,The impact to us is not so obvious.Because you said this is a high school,Actually university stage to go abroad now is very much also,I think the internationalization of China's now also more and more fast.Including for global society,The assessment of the whole China,Really is very big change.In the whole China's international status is increasingly high.So the Chinese to go out,With international standards,I think this is a big trend.And these people not go out don't come back,I know many people abroad to return to the motherland in the future,To serve the motherland.This is a very good virtuous circle.

  

搜狐教育主持人: Sohu education host:前段时间因为卖猪肉而出名的北京大学陆步轩受母校邀请,为即将毕业的学生做了分享,也引起网上非常激烈的讨论,有人说名校毕业生不应该做这样的事情,您怎么看待这样的事情?

The Peking University where is famous for selling pork Liu Buxuan invited by the Alma mater,Done for graduating students to share,Also very heated discussion online,Some people say that universities graduates should not do such a thing,How do you see such a thing?

  

邵庆辉【南开大学招生办公室主任】: Shao Qinghui[The admissions office at the university of nankai]:我们南开大学培养毕业生要知中国,服务中国,简而言之,要做一个对社会有用的人。不管是读了清华也好,读了北大也要,都是好大学,在社会上承担一份责任,做一份工作都是要对社会有用的人。卖猪肉还是对社会有贡献的,不要传统的认为必须进一个最好的单位,坐办公室,或者一个舒适的环境,才认为这个孩子是有出息的,不是这样的。就业观念上来说,现在谈到就业,大家都一直很关注,应该这么看,从学生角度来说怎么看待这个就业。他觉得干了一份工作,他是以收入为标准,还是以我的兴趣为标准,还是以我对社会的贡献作为标准,总有一个选择点。这是从学生角度。

We know China nankai university to cultivate graduates,Service in China,In a nutshell,To be a useful person to society.Whether to read the tsinghua university,Also want to read the Peking University,Is a good university,Part of responsibility in society,Do a job are useful person to society.Sell pork or contribute to society,Don't traditional thinks that must go to one of the best units,office,Or a comfortable environment,Didn't think that is the promise of the child,Not like that.Terms of employment concept,Now when it comes to employment,Everyone has been very attention,Should see it that way,From the student perspective: what about this job.He found a job,His standard is based on income,Based on my interest,Or in my contribution to the society as standard,There is always an option.From the students point of view.

  但是从社会角度,很多人关注评价这个孩子的时候,他也有很多点,比如社会地位,如果你是一名教师虽然挣得不多,可是大家认为教师是非常神圣的职业,好象跟他读的书还是能匹配的。反过来说刚才提到卖猪肉,可能认为接受这么一个高等教育,去卖猪肉好象大材小用,实际上不同的人卖猪肉,可能卖出不同风格,可能将来成为一个有名的企业也不是不可能,虽然都在干同一件事,但是多少年之后干出来的结果是不一样的。所以我并不认为那是一种大材小用的一件事。而且我觉得结合这个,还有一个经历在这儿跟大家分享一下,我曾经去英国学习过一段时间,当时在牛津大学门口去坐船,当时给我们划船的年轻小伙子,我们聊起来询问大学的情况,当时那个小伙子特别骄傲的说我就是牛津大学毕业的,当时所有的老师觉得不可思议。一个世界著名大学的学生在这儿划船作为他的职业,很多人不能理解,但是他认为我做这个工作过程当中,我有自己的收获我很热爱这一份工作,通过这份工作养活自己,而且给别人带来快乐。这可能跟整个国家的发展的阶段也有关系,已经不把上大学作为依靠我要找一份工作的门槛一样的。实际上是想通过读大学来提升自己的素质,我觉得咱们国家随着高等教育的发展,慢慢也会发展成这样。大家已经慢慢转变成不是一定要上大学,改变现在的这种命运,可能慢慢的就会当社会发展到一定程度的时候,上大学已经成为了我要通过接受高等教育来提升自己的素质,这个可能就没有大家想象关注的这个矛盾。但是这个时间可能还会有一段的,应该会比较漫长的。

但是从social角度,Many people focus on evaluation of the child,He also has a lot of points,Such as social status,If you are a teacher though earn much,But you think teacher is a very sacred profession,Like reading books still can match with him.On the other hand just mentioned to sell pork,May think to accept such a higher education,To sell pork seem overqualified,In fact different people sell pork,May sell different styles,May become a famous enterprise in the future is not impossible,While doing the same thing,But after how many years do come out result is not the same.So I don't think it is a kind of overqualified.And I think this,There is a experience to share with you here,I have been to study in the UK for a period of time,At the time go by boat at the gate of the Oxford University,Then give us the young man rowing,We talk about university,The young man was particularly proud of the said I was graduated from Oxford University,When all of the teachers felt incredible.A world famous university students rowing as his career here,Many people don't understand,But he think I do this work,I have my own harvest I very love this job,Through the job to feed themselves,And bring happiness to others.这可能跟整个国家的发展的阶段也有关Department of,Has not carried on university as depend on I want to find a job as the threshold.Is actually want to read university to improve their quality,I think our country with the development of higher education,So it will develop slowly.You have slowly transformed into is not a must to go to college,Change now that fate,May be slowly to a certain degree of social development,College has become a I want to by accepting higher education to improve their qualities,This may not be everybody think this contradiction.But that may be there will be a period of time,Should be relatively long.

  

搜狐教育主持人: Sohu education host:也就是说应该逐渐培养大学生正确的人才观念的培养。

That is to say, should gradually develop a correct concept of talents cultivation of college students.

  

邵庆辉【南开大学招生办公室主任】: Shao Qinghui[The admissions office at the university of nankai]:只要对社会有用的人,我们的培养都不是失败的。

As long as useful person to society,Our culture is not failure.

  

搜狐教育主持人: Sohu education host:这几天大学投毒案频繁见诸报端,无论是前段时间复旦大学发生的投毒案,还是19年前清华大学的朱令案件,心痛之余,您认为应该怎样培养大学生积极向上的心理健康观、人生观呢?

University poisoning case frequently these days,Whether it happened recently, fudan university, poisoning case,Tsinghua university zhu made case or 19 years ago,Heartache of,What do you think should be how to develop college students' positive psychological health perspectives/The outlook on life??

  

邵庆辉【南开大学招生办公室主任】: Shao Qinghui[The admissions office at the university of nankai]:一个人心理也好,什么也好,应该从他一出生开始,家庭、社会、学校等等,对他的心理健康成长都是有影响的。所以你要说这个事情大家可能是关注一是因为特殊的身份,因为感觉他们受了高等教育了。但是实际上我们国家没有任何一项升学的时候有过心理方面的措施吧,没有。所以这一块是空白,我们只是拿了学业,甚至其他方面的能力等等,这些方面在考核一个人,没有把心理提到必须要做的层面来。当然近几年有一些学校做自主招生选拔的时候好象也有加入一些,但是只是尝试性的。出现这个问题吧,有一定的偶然性,但是确实也挺可惜的,其实南开大学我觉得我们在心理咨询这一方面,学校挺重视的,我们有一个心理咨询的中心,学生可以通过网上,通过电话有一些心理不痛快的时候,或者感觉比较郁闷的时候,有一些东西需要跟别人排解的时候,可以通过电话,到我们中心来进行咨询。包括我们现在跟学生接触比较紧密的辅导员,南开大学辅导员很多经过相关的心理培训,都去获得一些心理咨询师的认证等等。希望在他们这个层面,学生跟学生接触最紧密层面的人,能够具备一些专业的心理咨询方面的技能。现在不能通过入口来卡学生能否进入这个大学了,一旦进了大学,可能学校正在积极的采取措施,尽量的减少大家觉得比较遗憾的事情的发生。所以说尽量平常跟大家接触过程中,如果发现有不好的苗头的时候,尽早的介入去干预他们,这是我们目前能做的。

A personal psychology,What is better,Should begin from his birth,family/social/School, etc.,To his mental health growth is influential.So you want to say the things you could be a concern because of the special identity,Because feel they have received the higher education.But actually we don't have any a national entrance when a psychological measures,Don't have.So this is a piece of blank,We just took the school,Even other aspects ability and so on,These aspects in the assessment of a person,Didn't mention must do the psychological level.In recent years, of course, there are some schools to do the selection of the autonomous enrolment time seems to have add,But is only tentative.Appear this problem,Have some chance,But it also pretty great pity,Actually I think we are in the psychological consultation of nankai university this on one hand,The school attaches great importance to,We have a psychological counseling center,Students can through the Internet,By phone when there are some psychological is not good,Or feel more depressed,Have a few things to sort out with someone,You can through the phone,Come to our center.Including our students contact more closely the counselor now,Nankai university counselor many related psychological training,Have to get some psychological consultant certification and so on.Hope this level,Students contact with students in the fixed layer surface,To possess some professional counseling skills.Can't through the entrance card now students can enter the university,Once into the university,Possible schools are actively take measures,As far as possible reduce everyone feel regret what happened.So as usual with you contact process,If it is found that when there are bad signs,Early intervention to intervene in them,This is what we can do right now.

  

搜狐教育主持人: Sohu education host:随着新一届领导班子的上任,大家发现一个非常有趣的现象,这一届领导人都是文科生,从而开启了“文科治国”的时代,您认为这个对于大学生选专业上来说是否有影响?

As the new leadership took office,We found a very interesting phenomenon,This session of leaders are liberal arts majors,To open the"Rule of liberal arts"The era of,You think it is influential for college students to choose professional?

  

邵庆辉【南开大学招生办公室主任】: Shao Qinghui[The admissions office at the university of nankai]:我们国家领导人都是文科生,不能说他们是文科出身的人,同学们是不是一窝蜂学文科去了,也未必,其实孩子们学什么,尤其现在孩子都是独生子女,相对家庭条件比较好,绝大部分孩子选择自己将来从事什么行业,学文还是学理还是以自己兴趣为出发点。一个孩子理科根本学不了,不会因为怎么样,我就强迫自己学理科。同样一个理科非常好的学生,不会因为现在国家领导人很多都是文科生,所以改行不学理科,学文科,文科未必学得好。选择上来说不会有太大的影响,学生应该还是从自己所擅长的领域来出发,我是学文科,还是学理科。

Our leaders are liberal arts majors,Can't say they are liberal arts background,The students are rushing to learn arts,Also not necessarily,Actually the children learn,Especially now that children are only children,Relative family condition is good,The vast majority of children choose their own future engaged in what industry,Literature and theory and with their own interests as the starting point.One of the children don't learn the science,Not because of what,I will force myself to study science.As a science is very good student,Not because now the country's leaders a lot are liberal arts majors,So don't study science,To learn liberal arts,Arts may not learn well.It won't have too big effect choice,Students should or from your area,I am a liberal arts,Or to learn science.

  

搜狐教育主持人: Sohu education host:还有40多天就要到高考了的时候,高三学子进入最后冲刺阶段,最后请您送出对于今年高考学子的祝福。

There are more than 40 days when the university entrance exam,Senior three students in the final sprint phase,Finally please send wishes for this year the university entrance exam students.

  

邵庆辉【南开大学招生办公室主任】: Shao Qinghui[The admissions office at the university of nankai]:其实这一段时间大家到了最关键,最紧张的阶段了,我觉得同学们最好是一要保重身体,良好的身体才能保证我们后面大战告捷。第二个心态一定要平和,不要太紧张,把自己最好的状态发挥出来就可以了,把它当成平时测验。大家平时小测验,大测验考了不下百次,不要太紧张。第三个我觉得考完之后在报考志愿的时候,要多查看信息,不要偏听偏信,根据自己的兴趣和志愿选择自己喜欢的大学和专业,为自己将来的人生开始逐步去规划了。因为我们南开大学一直强调职业生涯规划,大家从现在开始应该有一个自己的人生规划了,最后还是祝大家在今年的高考当中能够取得理想的成绩,考入自己最心怡的大学,然后实现自己的人生梦想。

Actually this time everyone in the most critical,The most intense phase,I think the students are best to take good care of yourself,Good body can ensure war behind us.The second attitude must be peaceful,Don't be too nervous,Best play themselves out,Think of it as a normal test.You at ordinary times quiz,For more than one hundred times on the big test,Don't be too nervous.The third I think after when enter oneself for an examination to volunteer,To view more information,Don't listen to the opinions,Choose according to their interests and volunteer their favorite universities and professional,Beginning step by step to planning for their future life.Because we always emphasis on career planning of nankai university,Everyone from now on you should have a own life planning,Finally I wish you all in this year's college entrance examination can obtain ideal results,Was admitted to oneself's heart yi university,And then realize their dreams in life.

  

搜狐教育主持人: Sohu education host:好,谢谢邵老师的祝福,感谢您的做客,本期搜狐教育会客厅就到这里结束了,感谢大家的收看。

good,Thank you for the blessings of shao teacher,Thank you for your visit,The current sohu education saloon is here is over,Thank you for watching.



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