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浙大教授建议本科生不必写论文 称造假丢导师面子--亲稳舆论引导监测室
2012-07-20
教育部拟出新规:论文造假者,学位撤销且3年不能再申请 The ministry of education intends to new rules:Paper fraudsters,Degree and 3 years can't cancel application
浙大有教授建议:本科生不必写论文 Zhejiang university professor have Suggestions:Undergraduate students don't have to write a paper
“申请学士、硕士、博士学位,所提交的学位论文,如果出现购买、他人代写,或者抄袭、剽窃等作假情形的,取消其学位申请资格。已经获得学位的,依法撤销其学位。”
“Apply for a bachelor's、Master's、Doctor degree,The presentation of the thesis,If appear to buy、Others write,Or copying、Plagiarism, the circumstances of the false,Cancel the degree application qualification。Have a degree,Revoked its degree。”
本周,教育部公布《关于对学位论文作假行为的暂行处理办法》,7月16日至8月16日期间,面向社会公开征集意见。该《办法》规定,论文造假者,学位将取消,3年内不得再申请学位。
This week,The ministry of education announced《Degree thesis about fraud to the interim treatment measures》,July 16, to aug. 16 period,Facing the social public solicitation opinion。the《way》provisions,Paper fraudsters,Degree will cancel the,3 years shall not apply for degree。
《办法》同时对指导教师提出了要求:未尽到学术道德和学术规范教育、论文指导和审查把关等职责,将视情况获暂停招生、取消指导资格、处分直至解聘等处理。也就是说学生造假,还会“连坐”导师。
《way》At the same time for guiding teacher put forward the requirements:Did not fulfill the academic morality and education academic norms、Thesis guidance and review checks and so on duty,Will the situation was suspended recruit students、Cancel guidance qualifications、Sanctions until dismiss processing。That is the students forged,Will also“pants”mentor。
治理论文造假,要动真格了?大学教授们对此有什么态度?昨天记者就此专访了浙江大学两位教授。
Governance fake papers,Want to play hardball?University professors have a what attitude?Interview with reporters yesterday in zhejiang university professors。
质量不高,本科生论文堪忧 Quality is not high,Undergraduate thesis care
浙大中文系教授陈建新说,他也关注到了这个信息。他认为,申请学位是一件很严肃的事情,要获得学位证书,必须对某问题有专门研究,并提出自己的观点。
Chinese department of zhejiang university professor r a.acidification said,He also paid attention to this information。He thinks,Apply for degree is a very serious matter,To get a degree certificate,In a special problem must study,And put forward their views。
“只有变成自己的东西,获得的学位含金量才是高的。”他说。
“Only into your things,Get the degree of the gold content is high。”He said。
陈教授说,现在教育领域有教授提出,本科生可以不写论文,他也赞成这个观点。
Professor Chen said,Now education professor field,Undergraduate students can not write a paper,He also agree with this view。
陈教授认为,本科生写论文观点新颖的并不多见。“很多教授就要求他们,最起码要看过一些资料,文字起码要是自己的。”他说,这样的文章,其实已经跟一篇综述差不多,只要他们阅读量足够,知道这一研究领域的现状,前人已经研究到什么程度,了解这个研究发展方向,就不错了。
Professor Chen think,Undergraduate students write a paper views the novel does not see more。“Many professors were asked,At the very least to watch some of the material,Text at least if his own。”He said,This article,In fact has been talking to a review about the same,As long as they reading quantity enough,Know this research in the field of the status quo,Previous research has to what degree,Understand the research development direction,good。
“早该出这样的规定,社会对抄袭、造假行为,已经放纵太久。”陈教授说,有些人看别人在写论文时,抄袭、造假都没受到惩罚,就跟着做,刚开始一小部分人这样做,后来很多人跟着做了。
“As early as this such a regulation,Society to copy、frauds,Have indulgence too long。”Professor Chen said,Some people look at the others in writing paper,copying、Fraud is not punished,Follow to do,Just started to a small number of people to do so,Later, many people to follow suit。
陈教授从上世纪80年代就开始指导学生论文,“那时的论文都是学生自己原创的,而且都写得很认真,会切切实实地去研讨一个问题;但到了90年代,抄袭现象越来越严重,开始是本科生,后来是硕士生、博士生,因为监管不严,导致这种现象的蔓延。”
Professor Chen from the 1980 s began to guide students to paper,“At that time the papers are students own original creation,And are written very carefully,Will i. e. to discuss a question;But, in the 90 s,Plagiarism is more and more serious,Start is undergraduate,Then the master is、doctoral,Because the lax supervision,Lead to the spread of this phenomenon。”
教育部拿出这个《办法》,陈教授表示,执行是最重要的。
Out of the ministry of education《way》,Professor Chen said,Execution is the most important。
“如果只出一纸规定,却没有真正的执行和监督,我怕还无法解决问题。”
“If only a paper regulations,But no real implementation and supervision,I'm afraid I can't solve the problem。”
学生造假,丢的是导师面子 Students fraud,The teacher face is lost
《办法》对指导教师,也作出了规范要求:未尽到学术道德和学术规范教育、论文指导和审查把关等职责,将视情况获暂停招生、取消指导资格、处分直至解聘等处理。
《way》To guide teacher,Also make a standard requirement:Did not fulfill the academic morality and education academic norms、Thesis guidance and review checks and so on duty,Will the situation was suspended recruit students、Cancel guidance qualifications、Sanctions until dismiss processing。
浙江大学园艺系教授高中山,每年都要带硕士生、博士生,“我们这个专业,抄袭、造假不是很普遍,只是个例。个例的事,国外也有。”
Zhejiang university professor YuanYiXi GaoZhongShan,With the master every year、doctoral,“We this major,copying、Fraud is not very common,Just an。Examples of,Foreign also have。”
高教授说,他这个专业的博士生,论文要发表在国际刊物上,审查很严格,基本上都是自己的研究成果。“浙大教授,在这方面的警惕性很高的,学生造假,当导师的也会丢面子。”
Gao said,He the professional doctor,The paper published in the international journal,Review is very strict,Basically all are own research。“Zhejiang university professor,In this respect vigilance is very high,Students fraud,When the teacher will also lose face。”
高教授说,搞科研的论文一般不太能造假,如果导师跟学生经常交流、沟通,关注学生的科研进展,就不太可能出状况。
Gao said,Make scientific research paper generally can not false,If teachers communicate with the students often、communication,Paying attention to the students' scientific research progress,It is unlikely to out status。
“学生都有一个实验记录本,什么时候做了啥,有了什么结果,都要记录,这就是原始记录,以后报专利、写论文,都可以拿出来验证,所以不可能造假的。”
“Students have a lab notebook,When did what,What's the result,Will record,This is the original record,Later patent for、Write a paper,All can take a test and verify,So impossible false。”
高教授承认,也会有学生会伪造实验数据,如果导师跟学生接触不够紧密,就有可能发生这种状况,“有时候导师真是不知道,学生论文出问题,也不能全是导师的责任。所以啊,我们当导师的,得关注学生写论文的整个过程,把好关。”
Tall professor admit,There will also be students forged experimental data,If the tutor students close enough to touch,It is possible this situation,“Sometimes teachers really don't know,The student papers,Not all of the tutor is also responsibility。so,We when the teacher,To pay attention to the students to write a research paper of the entire process,The good close。”
对于教育部的这个《办法》,高教授认为,如果论文是伪造的、抄袭的,就很严重,撤销学位是有必要的。(记者 梁建伟)
The ministry of education for this《way》,Gao said,If the paper is false、plagiarism,It is very serious,Cancellation degree is necessary。(Reporter LiangJianWei)
扩展阅读: Extended reading:
教育部:学位论文作假3年内禁授学位
The ministry of education:Degree thesis degree awarding the false three years
聚焦最严论文造假惩罚制度:条款尚需实施细则
Focus on the most severe punishment fraudulent papers:The detailed rules for the implementation of the terms is required
相关评论: Relevant comments:
学位论文作假处理办法意见稿被指条款过于抽象
Degree thesis false way to handle the draft is too abstract to terms
打击论文造假别"大棒轻举"
Paper fraud don't blow"Stick make"
论文买卖,学术诚信之殇
Paper business,Wounds of academic integrity
专家观点: Experts point:
熊丙奇:本科生有必要写毕业论文吗?
XiongBingJi:Undergraduate graduation thesis is necessary to write?
对毕业论文的依赖,反映出我国大学平时课堂教学的严重乏力。要提高本科和研究生教育质量,必须从最基本的课程建设做起,这是比抓毕业设计(论文)环节更重要的事,尤其在学生的毕业论文出现大面积"代笔"、造假的情况下。
Of graduation thesis dependent,Reflect China university of the classroom teaching of serious weakness at ordinary times。To improve the undergraduate and graduate education quality,Must be from the most basic course construction is made,This is better than catch the graduation design(paper)Link to more important things,Especially in the student's dissertation a massive"who"、Fraud cases。
当然,提高大学的课堂教学质量,与取消对大学生的毕业论文要求一样,大学都面临没有自主权的问题——不能自主设置课程,教师没有充分的教育自主权。所以,当前我国大学教育的核心问题,是怎样落实和扩大学校的办学自主权,给学校充分的自主空间。没有这一条,大学的办学就将失去灵魂,教育质量问题就不可能得到解决。【详细】
Of course,Improve the college classroom teaching quality,And the cancellation of the college students' graduation thesis requirements,Universities all face the problem has no say-not independent set up the course,Teachers don't have adequate education autonomy。so,The current education to the core of university in China,How is carried out and expand the autonomy of the school,Give schools independent space。Not this one,University of running a soul will lose,Education quality problems will not be solved。【detailed】
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