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导师鄙视制度,博士学位没了!--亲稳舆论引导监测室
2012-07-20
南开大学教授李卫东因反感论文与学位挂钩,压下学生论文不投稿,导致十几位博士生无法拿学位,引发网友微博热议。李卫东称制度本身需改变,但这种改变是否需要让学生付出如此之大的代价?又或者李卫东的做法,是壮士断腕的无奈之举?无论怎样说,对于“制度”来说,十几个学生的“牺牲”,或许可以仅仅看做孤例,但对这些学生而言,却是一次百分之百的打击。
Nankai university professor LiWeiDong by resenting papers and degree hooks,Press down on students contribute,Lead to more than ten doctoral can't take degree,Cause the micro bo hot debate。LiWeiDong says system itself, need to change,But this change whether to need to let students pay for such a large cost?Or LiWeiDong practice,Is the strong man DuanWan with trepidation?No matter how to say,for“system”for,Ten of several students“sacrifice”,Perhaps can just as isolated cases,But for these student,But a one hundred percent hit。
本版撰文:记者 卜松竹
Benban writing about:The reporter shochiku studio by
高校发表论文多应该被鄙视?
University published more than should be despised?
@pomgmol:对于这样的博士生导师,我是喜欢的,因为有自己的思想,也必将给其学生带来不一样的文化盛宴。倘若所找的公司仅仅是看文凭的话,对你、对老师都是一种侮辱。总之,中国就业体制很有问题。
@ pomgmol:For such a doctoral tutor,I am like,Because have their own thoughts,Will the students to bring cultural feast。If the companies are looking for is just see diploma words,For you、For teachers is an insult。In short,China's employment system is a problem。
@赳赳老秦:力挺李卫东!宁坐板凳十年冷,不写文章半句空。这才是做研究的人。“做学问的人就不能淡定一点吗?”这句话说到了点儿上!南开大学的化学可是国内一流啊,这样的学者留不住,恐怕是南开的损失。
@ JiuJiu old qin:Hard LiWeiDong!Better on the bench ten years cold,Do not write a word of empty。This is the people doing the research。“A scholar couldn't be calm about it?”The other words to some!Nankai university chemical but the domestic first-class ah,Such scholars do not leave,I'm afraid is the loss of the south。
@壶丹心:南开大学李卫东教授不是绑架学生,而是和不合理的教育现状开战。只是书呆子气太重,误伤了弟子。
@ pot of educational:Nankai university professor LiWeiDong not kidnap students,But and unreasonable education present situation of the war。Just nerd gas is too heavy,Winged disciple。
@哈哈商人:我觉得李卫东是真正的学者,追求论文发表的数量是高校沉沦的重要因素。我曾查阅论文作者找到某高校教师合作一个项目,见面谈话感觉这个人对这个题目竟然没有研究!
@ ha ha businessman:I think LiWeiDong is real scholars,The number of papers published pursuit is the important factors of self-destruction。I have access to authors find a university teachers' cooperation a project,Meet a feeling that the man talking to the subject didn't study!
@张翔-西安理工大学:在中国高校里,发表论文数高的人,其实应该被鄙视。
@ zhang xian-university of technology:In Chinese colleges and universities,Published several high,It should be despised。
@阳禾斗:强烈要求对学术界进行改革。
@ YangHe measures: call for stronger requirements for academia to reform。
@吴军:“宁坐板凳十年冷,不写文章半句空”,再看看现在什么人都发布文章,大家好好想想吧。
@ wu jun:“Better on the bench ten years cold,Do not write a word of empty”,Look at what all the people now released,You think about it。
@wanyan:这个该死的制度烦死个人……
@ wanyan: this damned system annoyed people……
@大鲜卑山人: 论文大跃进,学术大跃进。
@ big xianbei ShanRen: paper great leap forward,Academic great leap forward。
博士就是民工,包工头说不给就不给!
Migrant workers is dr.,Labour say not to give if they can!
@3胖的鱼:李卫东火爆了,什么都8出来了!回头看看自己的老板,虽然水平一般,但是人品神马的没得说,感动得痛哭流涕。
@ 3 fat fish:LiWeiDong hot the,What all 8 to come out!Look at their boss,Although the general level,But the character of god horse had no said,Moved to cry bitterly。
@Counter-Strike-1:论文总是让人欢喜让人忧!追求科学完美,不能以牺牲别人的未来为代价!
@ Counter-Strike-1:Paper always let a person glad to sorrow!Pursue scientific perfect,Expense the cost of someone's future!
@应相业律师:1.李卫东自己以前是不敢反抗的。2.现在的博士学生们也是不想反抗的。3.李卫东个人行为给博士学生们造成了拿不到学位的不利后果。
@ should phase industry lawyers:1. LiWeiDong before self is not the resistance。2. Now the doctoral students also don't want to rebel。3. LiWeiDong individual behavior to the doctor students caused get degree adverse consequences。
@lxm_LUMO:博士生就是民工,自己定位不要搞错啊!包工头说不给就不给,那你也没办法的。
@ lxm_LUMO:Doctoral is migrant workers,Don't make a mistake! Positioning!Labour say not to give if they can,That you didn't also way。
@乃佳人:苦情主顾找个恶老板剥削容易么……
@ is with the wind:Find a customer complaint evil boss exploited easy……
@宁静致远:李教授说体制不对,其实是李教授压着不发论文。应该各打80大板,培养博士不发论文,奇了怪了,博士论文光有期刊发表论文说法也不对。
@ halcyon send far: professor li said system is wrong,In fact is professor li pressure not hair papers。Should the call 80 big board,Dr training does not send paper,Strange strange the,Ph.D. Thesis light has a journal published that wrong。
@一颗星:反感体制?之前就不应该招收博士生啊!且不论体制如何,他指导的学生也有拿学位的权利啊?耽误别人的时间和精力该如何是好?他应该用其他方式表达自己的观点。这样有些哗众取宠的嫌疑哦。
@ a star: off system?You should not recruit doctoral student before it!And no matter how the system,He directed his students also have the right to take degree?Delay the time of others and energy how to is good?He should use other ways to express his views。So some of the sensationalistic suspected oh。
@轮肥:希望你的抗争不要以牺牲别人前途为代价,那样对你的学生实在太残忍。
@ wheel fat:I hope you don't sacrifice other struggle in the future for the price,So to your students is so cruel。
@365微头条:中国目前的博士人数已经超越了美国跃居世界第一,但62年来没有获得过一项诺贝尔科学奖。近百年来英国仅一个剑桥大学的毕业生们,就获得了160多项诺贝尔科学奖;美国近50年来,总共获得了86项诺贝尔科学奖;博士人数多有什么用?哪怕13亿人都是博士,没有发明创造,这些博士也等于零。
@ 365 micro headlines:China's current number of dr has surpassed the us rose in the world,But 62 years has not won a Nobel science。Nearly years Britain only a Cambridge university graduates,Have more than 160 Nobel science;The United States almost 50 years,Won a total of 86 of the Nobel science;Number of dr. What's the use?Even if 1.3 billion people is a doctor,No invention,Dr. These are equal to zero。
@皮卡丘biubiu:我们这行,卖书卖字卖论文,用模型数据,献事实真理。从未干神马衣来伸手、饭来张口、朝三暮四、投机取巧之事。若显著,痛哭流涕谢上帝;若非也,辗转反侧难睡去。顶博士生浮虚名,挣补助费糊口钱。论文终成废纸,一元一斤。学术大腕期刊宠,不念辛劳人。看在曾为学术挑灯夜战,能否让哥发篇论文?
@ PiKaQiu biubiu:We do this,Sell books sell word to sell papers,Use data model,Offered the fact the truth。Never do god YiLaiShenShou horse、farther、Chop and change、Opportunistic。If significant,Cry bitterly thank god;Were it not for also,Tossing and turning to sleep。Top doctoral float hollow reputation,Earn money to subsidies。Essay into the waste paper,One yuan a kilo。Academic journal pet big shots,Don't read hard man。Look for the midnight oil in had academic,Could you let elder brother hair paper?
@老石说V:博士都卖论文了,你还在读书……
@ old stone said V:The paper, are sold,You are studying……
@熊猫andyonline:博士,谐音“不是”,意为“啥也不是”。
@ panda andyonline:dr,homophonic“not”,means“nothing”。
神仙打架,学生遭殃!
Fairy fight,Students suffer!
@foxmax:选导师不要看来头,首先看师兄师姐毕业去向,这是经验之谈。
@ foxmax:Choose teacher don't look head,First look at your fellow to graduation,This is experience。
@闲云野鹤shen:在现行的学术体制下,你个人可以保留观点,可以反对,但是不能压制学生在这个体制下的学习和毕业!
@ XianYunYeHe shen:In the current academic system,You can keep personal views,Can against,But can't suppress students in the system of learning and graduation!
@Melodie_im_Wald:神仙打架,学生遭殃。神仙李卫东利用手中权力暗中绑架欺骗学生来对抗他所不满的体制,这不是捍卫观念。想捍卫自己的观念,完全可以不招博士生。
@ Melodie_im_Wald:Fairy fight,Students suffer。The fairy LiWeiDong use hand power to fight against cheating student secretly kidnapped his dissatisfaction with the system,This is not to defend idea。Want to defend their ideas,Can recruit doctor。
@硕果-李:李卫东的解释只是“借口”。也许制度是有问题,但是他作为一个长江学者,可以表达意见的途径有很多,为什么要采取这样一种最消极的方式?
@ the fruits of lee:LiWeiDong explanation only“excuse”。Maybe system is a problem,But he as a Yangtze river scholars,Can express opinions way has a lot of,Why to want to take this one of the most negative way?
@南老:现在的砖家们做的事情已经远远脱离学术的范畴,不是一味地歌功颂德搏上位就是靠另类裸奔赚眼球出位,倒霉的都是那些垫脚石,这样的砖家可悲可鄙可恨。
@ south old:Now the brick experts do have far from academic categories,Not blindly cardiac superior which is on the alternative congratulatory streaking make eye piece,Luck is the a stepping stone,Such brick home sad hateful contemptible。
@卫大学问:要知道2002~2011年中国发的SCI有五分之一是来自化学,中国化学发文量世界第一,你带学生连一篇SCI都发不出去,你还控诉个毛啊!
@ defend university asked:To know China during 2002 ~ 2011 hair of SCI one 5 is from chemistry,China's chemical were identificated world first,You take students even a SCI all hair go out,You also accused a hair ah!
@连博qmjx:我其实没看明白到底哪里有问题,难道因为自己的不妥协就可以牺牲学生吗?老师你本人也同意他们拿博士学位的,看报道难道李老师意思是为了向制度示威故意拖着不发学生的文章?
@ even Po QMJX:I'm actually not understand exactly where there are problems,Is it because his uncompromising can sacrifice student?The teacher you have also agreed that they take the doctor's degree,See reports don't miss li to mean to deliberately dragged demonstration system does not send students article?
@取消王金虎: 制度若变了,你会变吗?
@ cancel WangJinHu: if the system changed,You will become a?
@野人罗:大家容易吗?好不容易搞个文凭还不给!纠结啊!
@ savage ROM:Is it easy for you to everyone?Very not easy to have a diploma is not to!Entanglements ah!
@阿希耶:那几个学生又不是天子,挟持了诸侯们也不能听他的啊!可惜了他们被牺牲了!
@ spell":That a few students and not. Right,Holding the governors also can't listen to him.!A pity they were killed!
@apostle_z:你反感体制,干吗不去跟学位委员会干架?跟学生较劲有用吗?
@ apostle_z:You off system,Why not go to with academic degrees committee were fighting?Fighting with students useful?
@鱼太冰箱:当下这个大建筑工地上,是个文凭很重要学术不是很重要的时代。
@ fish too refrigerator:Then the big at the construction site,Is a diploma is very important academic is not very important time。
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