2010年3月，任北京外国语大学校长；2011年11月，任中国人民大学校长。朱可然

In march of 2010,As Beijing foreign studies university President;In November 2011,As the China people's university President.Zhu can but

　　陈雨露：校庆应回归大学育人本职

Chen rain and dew:Decoration should return to their university education

　　中国人民大学提出“公益校庆”理念，校庆资金全部来自捐赠，不办庆典不是请不到领导找不到场地

People's university of China put forward"Public decoration"concept,Decoration funds from all donations,Do not run celebration is not please less than leadership can't find site

　　明日，中国人民大学将迎来75周年校庆日。今年校庆，中国人民大学却办得与以往不同：传统校庆的庆祝大会取消了，变成了公益校庆。

tomorrow,People's university of China will have 75 anniversary day.This year anniversary,People's university of China with different but do:Traditional anniversary celebration meeting was cancelled,Into a public decoration.

　　中国人民大学校长陈雨露说，这样一个理念的变化，是想让校庆充分体现学生和学术是大学的原点，育人是大学的本职，我们将要倡导推动实现一个回归大学本位的校庆。

China people's university President Chen said rain and dew,Such a concept changes,Want to make decoration fully embody students and academic is the origin of university,Education is the university's class,We will advocate push achieve a regression university standard of decoration.

关于“公益校庆” about"Public decoration"

　　公益育人培养学生爱人之心 Public education to cultivate students' the heart of love

　　新京报：办校庆对校长而言，应该很累吧？

The Beijing news:Do anniversary in to the principal,Should be very tired!?

　　陈雨露：这次校庆，作为校长来讲，实际上很大程度是得到了解放。

Chen rain and dew:This anniversary,As the principal terms,In fact largely got liberation.

　　新京报：为什么？

The Beijing news:why?

　　陈雨露：原来的校庆模式，校长需要去做原创，同时校长还要去做全校的动员，校长还要去邀请各路的贵宾，是非常累的。

Chen rain and dew:The original decoration pattern,The headmaster need to do original,At the same time the headmaster will to do the mobilization of the entire school,The headmaster will go to invite each guest,Is very tired.

　　这次校庆，因为创意来自于师生和校友，组织也是在校学生为主，同时邀请人回来也是由在校学生一对一邀请。校长核心的作用是做一个推手，我要做的就是，发现亮点，提升亮点，助推新的校庆模式在同学为主体中达到最佳的效果。

This anniversary,This is because creativity from the teachers and students and alumni,Organization is also in the school student is given priority to,At the same time, invite people back also by the students one-on-one invited.The principal core role is to do a hand slap,I want to do is,Found window,Ascension window,Boosting new decoration pattern in the students as the main body to achieve the best effect.

　　新京报：人大校庆亮点之一是“公益校庆”，如何确定这一理念？

The Beijing news:National People's Congress is one of window decoration"Public decoration",How to determine the idea?

　　陈雨露：公益校庆理念来自两个方面。一个是来自于对世界一流大学的理解，一个是来源于同学自己。

Chen rain and dew:Public decoration concept comes from two aspects.One is from the understanding of the world class universities,One is from the students themselves.

　　世界一流大学有一个共同的元素，就是在育人的过程中要公益育人，培养学生的公益心，实际上就是培养学生的爱人之心。“公益”理念也从同学身上受到很大启发。我们对独生子女这代人可能有一种过分的低估。我们都相信每一个年轻人心里都有善良的种子，而大学要做的，就是把这颗善良的种子上升到理性的层面，上升到精神价值的层面。

The world first-class university has a common element,In the process of education is to public education,Cultivate students' public heart,In fact is the cultivation of the students' the heart of love."public"From the concept of students body is much inspiration.Our one-child generation may have an excessive underestimate.We all believe that every young person in the mind all have good seed,And the university to do,Is this a good seed rise to the rational level,Rise to the level of the spiritual value.

　　新京报：学生做了哪些“公益”的事情让学校很受启发？

The Beijing news:The students are doing"public"Something to make school is very inspired by?

　　陈雨露：第一他们主动提出来，能不能通过义卖的形式，把关爱师生基金规模扩大，我们觉得这个主意很好，就上升到学校层面。现在基金规模由几十万扩大到近千万。

Chen rain and dew:First they offered,Can you through the form of charity,Take care for teachers and students to expand the size of the fund,We feel that's quite a good idea,Rise to the school level.Now the size of the fund from hundreds of thousands of expanded to nearly ten million.

　　第二，学生自己的社团组织里也开展了很多公益性活动，比如他们参与造血干细胞的采集，现在已有几百名学生进入了中华骨髓库。

The second,Students of their own community organization also carried out a lot of public welfare activity,For example they participate in hematopoietic stem cell collection,Now it has hundreds of students into the CDMP data bank.

　　第三，在校庆中，学校鼓励和支持每位在校同学去做公益。响应的人也越来越多。凡是参与公益校庆系列活动的同学，我觉得“公益”的理念对他们的影响都是深入骨髓的。

The third,In the decoration of,The school shall encourage and support each other students to do public welfare.Response people also more and more.Those who participate in public welfare anniversary series activities of the students,I think"public"The idea to their influence is the depth of bone marrow.

　　新京报：大学在“公益”方面哪些还做得不够？

The Beijing news:University in"public"What aspects do enough?

　　陈雨露：第一，把学校的本职工作做好就是最大的公益。教授要像教授，学生要像学生，校长要像校长，都做自己应当做的事情。

Chen rain and dew:The first,The school's class work well is the biggest public welfare.Professor like the professor,The students like the students,The headmaster wanted to like the headmaster,Do we must do.

　　第二，在办教育过程中，老师和学生共同的任务是把学生从“小我”变成“大我”，这比传授知识的作用更大。要让我们培养出来的人都有脚踏实地为百姓服务的理念。

The second,In the run education process,The teacher and student common task was to students from"The ego"into"self",This is the role of knowledge more big.Let us cultivate out people have their feet on the ground for the people, the concept of service.

　　第三方面，从教育本身来讲，在办学过程中对“公益”还提得不够。“公益”是一面旗帜，要把公益的旗帜举得高高的。

The third aspect,Will tell from education itself,In the process of running"public"Also carry enough."public"Is a flag,The public welfare flag held high.

　　新京报：“公益校庆”活动之一是在京举行了“百场社区公益讲座”，参与的知名学者是怎么确定下来的？

The Beijing news:"Public decoration"Activities held in Beijing is one of the"The field community public lecture",Participation in the famous scholars is how to determine the down?

　　陈雨露：今年是校庆年，这种公益讲座更集中一些。

Chen rain and dew:This year's anniversary year,This kind of public lecture some more centralized.

　　这些活动实际上是我们应该做的，在过去的一段时间里做得不太好，现在要尽快把这个传统恢复了，谈不上什么创新。学者的确定既有自己报名的，也有校庆办公室学术组邀请的，二者都有。

These activities are actually what we should do,In the past period of time is not so good,Now as soon as possible to the traditional restored,Do not talk to go up what innovation.The determination of scholars both his registration,Also have an anniversary of the office of academic group invited,both.

关于“不办庆祝大会” about"Don't do to celebrate assembly"

　　不是请不到领导找不到场地 Please not less than leadership can't find site

　　新京报：有的学校校庆甚至到人民大会堂去开庆祝大会。

The Beijing news:Some schools decoration even to the great hall of the people to open celebrate assembly.

　　陈雨露：在过去相当长的一段时间里，为了让整个社会对教育有充分的关注和支持，包括物力和财力方面的支持，通过校庆让社会各界看到教育的重要性，利用校庆的机会让更多的领导能来到校园，希望能得到领导的支持。这种情况下，过去的校庆模式都是围绕庆典大会为核心的。

Chen rain and dew:In the last quite a long time,In order to make the whole society to education have sufficient attention and support,Including material and financial support,Through the anniversary let the social from all walks of life to see the importance of education,Use the anniversary opportunity for more leadership can come to campus,Hope to get the support of the leaders.This case,The past decoration pattern are all around the opening ceremony as the core.

　　现在要看到很多兄弟院校的校庆都在转型，我们坚信，大家再办校庆时都会与时俱进的。

Now to see a lot of colleges and universities of decoration are in transition,We firmly believe that,You will again do anniversary of keeping pace with The Times.

　　新京报：人民大学今年为什么不办庆典大会？

The Beijing news:People's university this year, why not do celebration meeting?

　　陈雨露：提出校庆的新理念，就是倡导尽快地回归大学本位，大学的原点是学生和学术，大学的本职是教书育人。

Chen rain and dew:Put forward the new concept of decoration,Advocate is as soon as possible return to university standard,Origin of university students and academic,University's class is impart knowledge and educate people.

　　作为人民大学来讲，我们还要办校庆，还比较看重校庆在转变理念方面的冲击力，通过校庆来让大家受到教育。

As for the people's university,We have to do decoration,Still think much of decoration in the transformation idea of impact,Through the decoration to let everybody by education.

　　新京报：不办校庆大会，是不是因为请不到领导，或者找不到场地？

The Beijing news:Do not run anniversary congress,Is it because please less than leadership,Or can't find site?

　　陈雨露：都不是。每个时代的国家领导人都非常关心和重视人民大学，都先后来到人民大学，所以不存在你所讲的这个问题。新世纪以来人大校园建设也有很大改善，更不存在找不到场地的问题。

Chen rain and dew:Are not.Every age's national leaders are very concern and pay attention to people's university,All has come to people's university,So nonexistent what you say this problem.Since the new century's campus construction also have very big improvement,More does not exist can't find the problem.

　　越是重要的大学越要发挥引领和示范的效应，我们努力去做这方面的工作。我希望我们自己从学校领导到教职员工能尽快地形成共识，去做好自己的本职工作。

The more important university should play the lead and demonstration effect,We work hard to do this work.I hope we yourself from the school leader to staff to the consensus as soon as possible,To make own labor of duty.

　　新京报：不办庆祝大会会减少一些花销吗？

The Beijing news:Don't do to celebrate congress will reduce some of the costs?

　　陈雨露：因为不再举行庆祝大会，所以费用就少了很多。

Chen rain and dew:Because no longer celebration meeting,So costs a lot less.

　　尽管如此，我们还是想完成一个全部由校友和社会捐赠经费的校庆。这仍然有很大的压力，目前完成70%左右，有30%左右，我们还是要努力。既然我们有承诺，我们就必须做到。

Even so,We still want to finish a all by alumni and social donation funds decoration.This still have a lot of pressure,The complete 70%,About 30%,We still have to try.Now that we have a commitment,We must do.

关于“培养人才” about"Training talents"

　　以“厚重”为灵魂培养杰出人才 to"massiness"For the soul to develop outstanding talents

　　新京报：有人主张校庆的一个重要意义在于对过去历史的反思。为什么人大校庆提出的是“引领明天的聚会”？

The Beijing news:It is asserted that decoration is an important significance lies in the past history of reflection.Why people's congress proposed anniversary is"Lead the party tomorrow"?

　　陈雨露：现在需要我们做的，就是大学怎么能够缔造出一大批具有全球竞争力的杰出人才，这是国家急需高等教育特别是重点大学要做的。

Chen rain and dew:Now we need to do,The university is how can create a large number of outstanding talents of global competitiveness,This is a country need higher education especially key university to do.

　　人民大学必须要尽快破这个题，找到路径来缔造这样一批具有全球竞争力的人文社会科学领域的杰出人才，这是一个巨大的命题，所以需要巨大的努力。

People's university must break this problem as soon as possible,Find the path to create such a batch of global competitiveness of the humanities and social science field of outstanding talents,This is a huge proposition,So I need a great deal of effort.

　　新京报：这个路线图如何描述？

The Beijing news:How to describe this map?

　　陈雨露：现在已经明确了这个路线图的灵魂厚重，这方面形成了高度的共识。找到这样一个关键词之后，接下来的路线图就有了灵魂。就不会走弯路，所设计的育人的各个环节都有逻辑。

Chen rain and dew:Now have already been clear about the roadmap soul massiness,This form a high degree of consensus.Find such a key words later,The rest of the map is the soul.Won't detours,The design of educating all links have logic.

　　新京报：如何理解“厚重”？

The Beijing news:How to understand"massiness"?

　　陈雨露：我们理解的“厚重”有四个方面的内涵：第一，要有深厚的人文底蕴，要有科学精神，要有跨文化的沟通能力。

Chen rain and dew:We understand"massiness"There are four aspects:The first,Deep humanistic background,Want to have scientific spirit,Want to have cross-cultural communication ability.

　　第二，要有哲学功力和建设性思维，大学教育不管是人文社会科学还是理工农医，哲学学好是成才的非常重要的基础，因为方法论很重要，哲学是科学的科学，同时不能只批判而没有建设性。

The second,Want to have philosophy capability and constructive thinking,University education whether humanities and social science or bedding medical workers and peasants,Philosophy well is a very important foundation,Because the methodology is very important,Philosophy is a science of science,At the same time can not only criticism without constructive.

　　第三是要有政治上的追求和理想的坚持能力。

The third is to have a political pursuit and ideal adhere to the ability.

　　第四，要有体育精神，坚强的意志品质和团结合作的能力。

The fourth,To have the spirit of sports,Strong will quality and cooperation ability.

　　之所以能形成共识，是因为这符合人成才的规律，人有多么厚重就能走多么高多么远，也符合人民大学的校风和学风。

Can the consensus,Because it accords with the law of talents,How heavy people can walk how far how high,Also accord with people's university school spirit and style of study.

　关于“校友评选” about"Alumni selection"

　　部级校友主动不参加评选 Ministry alumni active not to participate in the selection

　　新京报：“令我自豪的人大校友”评选活动不把党政机关在职领导干部作为候选人。可一般人看来，党政机关的领导干部可是杰出校友的重要组成部分，为什么刻意不把他们列为候选人呢？

The Beijing news:"Make me proud people's congress alumni"The selection activities don't take party and government organs as a candidate in the leading cadre.But the average person looks,Party and government organs of the leading cadre is an important part of the outstanding alumni,Why deliberately do not treat them as a candidate?

　　陈雨露：实际上我们是应这些校友的要求而提出的。

Chen rain and dew:In fact we are should these alumni requirements and proposed.

　　人大这次校庆的很多校友，很多在党政机关工作的领导同志就主动提出，我们就不在这里头了。中国人民大学作为以人民冠名的大学，实际上校友要多反映在一线工作的同志，这也算是带个头儿吧。

National People's Congress the decoration of many alumni,A lot of work in party and government organs leading comrades is offered,We will not here head.Chinese people's university as a people's named university,In fact the alumni to much reflected in a line work comrades,This also is regarded as zone height it.

　　这些党政机关的校友也确实在各条战线上做出了重大贡献，这也算是他们的一种姿态，另外也代表着一种好的和新的理念，应当更多地反映在基层，在一线，在市场发展的前沿的校友们。

The party and government organs alumni do on various fronts have made great contributions,This also is regarded as one of their attitude,Also represents a kind of good and new ideas,Should be more reflected in the basic unit,In a line,In the forefront of the market development of alumni.

　　新京报：这些党政机关的领导干部主要是指部级以上的呢，还是司局级以上的呢？

The Beijing news:The party and government organs of the leading cadre is mainly refers to ministry above it,Or department bureau class above it?

　　陈雨露：主要是部级领导们。

Chen rain and dew:Mainly is the ministry leaders.

　　新京报：你现在是副部级高校里最年轻的校长，有什么样的心得体会可以分享？

The Beijing news:You are now deputy ministry class at colleges and universities in the most young President,What kind of experience can share?

　　陈雨露：我出生于1966年，我的属相是马，我经常说，担任人民大学这样一所神圣的名校校长是名副其实的“小马拉大车”。所以我非常感谢组织上对我的信任，感谢学校师生给我的支持和鼓励。

Chen rain and dew:I was born in 1966,My Chinese zodiac is horse,I often say,As people's university such a sacred school principal is worthy of the name"The little horse cart".So I thank you very much for organizational trust to me,Thank the school teachers and students give me support and encouragement.

　　1989年工作以来，我最大的体会就是，一个人一定要做自己热爱的事情，那就能够事半功倍。在这个过程中自己虽然辛苦，得到的其实更多。

1989 years since the job,My biggest experience is,A man must do what you love to do,It can be twice the result with half the effort.In this process himself, though hard work,Get more actually.

　　提出公益校庆的新理念，就是倡导尽快地回归大学本位，大学的原点是学生和学术，大学的本职是教书育人。

Put forward the new concept of public anniversary,Advocate is as soon as possible return to university standard,Origin of university students and academic,University's class is impart knowledge and educate people.

　　世界一流大学有一个共同的元素，就是在育人的过程中要公益育人，培养学生的公益心，实际上就是培养学生的爱人之心。

The world first-class university has a common element,In the process of education is to public education,Cultivate students' public heart,In fact is the cultivation of the students' the heart of love.

　　记者 郭少峰

Reporter GuoShaoFeng