最新消息：贵州毕节官方称“被闷死”5少年系兄弟和堂兄弟 The latest news:Guizhou bijie officials say"suffocated"Five young system brothers and Cousins

　　《新闻1+1》2012年11月19日完成台本

[News 1 + 1]On November 19, 2012 complete playscript with stage directions

　　——五个孩子，在寒冷中死亡！

- five children,In the cold death!

　　（导视）

(Guide apparent)

　　解说：

interpretation:

　　贵州毕节五名儿童冬夜命丧垃圾箱。

Guizhou bijie five children winter night destroyed dustbin.

　　唐光星 毕节市委宣传部常务副部长：

TangGuangXing bijie municipal party committee propaganda department executive vice minister:

　　有的是八岁、九岁，也有十一二岁的，都在十岁左右。

Have a plenty of eight years old/Nine years old,Also have his preteens,In about ten years old.

　　解说：

interpretation:

　　6度的的低温，寒冷的冬夜，狭窄的垃圾箱，他们从哪儿来，家人在哪儿，为什么会在街头流浪？

6 degrees of the low temperature,Cold winter night,Narrow dustbin,They come from where,Family where,Why does the meeting in the street?

　　记者：

reporter:

　　就是这几个孩子什么时候躲进这个垃圾箱不太清楚。

Is this a few children when hide into the dustbin don't know.

　　唐光星：

TangGuangXing:

　　对，不太清楚。

to,Don't know.

　　解说：

interpretation:

　　五名男童为什么没有去救助站？工作组每天巡查，为什么没有及时发现？

Five boy why didn't go to rescue station?Working group search every day,Why not discover in time?

　　《新闻1+1》今日关注：让每一个流浪儿童回家。

[News 1 + 1]Attention today:Let every street children home.

　　白岩松 评论员：

BaiYanSong commentators:

　　您好观众朋友，欢迎收看正在直播的《新闻1+1》。

Hello audience friends,Welcome to are live[News 1 + 1].

　　今天凌晨有一位网友创作了一幅漫画，我们一起来看一下。这个漫画是"玩火机的小男孩"，其实一下子就让人想到那个童话，卖火柴的小女孩，不过这个漫画是根据一个真实的新闻来创作的，当然漫画是有些写意了，这只是一个孩子，其实在真实的新闻当中是五个孩子。在16日的时候，贵州毕节，一个捡垃圾的老人发现在一个垃圾箱里头有五个十岁左右的男孩全部死亡。我们来看一下这个垃圾箱，这个垃圾箱长1.5米，宽1.3米，就是这样的一个垃圾箱吞噬了五个孩子的生命。愤怒、伤感、难过、心疼、疑问诸种情绪在这两天的时候快速发酵，但是我想，评论的话可以留到明天再说，因为还是有太多的事实模糊不清。这五个孩子究竟是外地到这儿来流浪的儿童，还是当地的？离家出走还是在这里已经生活了好多天？那么到底是一种什么样的情况？来，让我们靠近事实。

This morning a netizen wrote a cartoon,Together we take a look at.This cartoon is"The little boy playing lighters",Actually suddenly let people think of the fairy tale,The little match girl,But this cartoon is based on a real news to creation,Of course the cartoon is some freehand brushwork in traditional Chinese painting,This is only a child,Actually in the real news is of five children.In the 16th,Guizhou bijie,A picking up litter man found in a garbage can is in five about ten years old boy all death.We take a look at the dustbin,The dustbin 1.5 meters long,1.3 meters wide,Is such a dustbin consumed five child's life.anger/sad/sad/Love dearly/Doubt the mood in the two days of the fast fermentation,But I want to,Review the words can say that until tomorrow,Because there are still too many facts blur.The five children from what is to come here wandering children,Or local?Away from home or have lived here for many days?So what is a kind of what kind of situation?to,Let us close to the fact.

　　解说：

interpretation:

　　今晚贵州毕节最低气温7摄氏度，对于这个地处中国西部的城市来说，冬天已经来临。今晚在五名男童去世的地方，垃圾筒已经被撤走，周围也被拉上了警戒线。谁也无法说清，四天前是怎样的寒冷，让五个孩子在那个雨夜决定躲进垃圾箱。

Tonight, guizhou bijie lowest temperature 7 degrees Celsius,Located in the west of China for the for the cities,Winter has come.In five boy died tonight place,The trash bin has been withdraw,All around was also drew the warning line.No one can tell,Four days ago is how cold,Let five children in that rainy night decided to hide into the dustbin.

　　据了解，目前孩子们的遗体被安放在毕节市殡仪馆。而在事发现场旁的围墙上，我们能清晰看到"流仓桥办事处"的字样。据媒体报道，事发现场距离流仓桥办事处不到百米。

It is understood,At present the children's body was buried in bijie city funeral home.And in the scene side of the fence,We can see clearly"Flow bin bridge office"".According to media reports,The scene distance flow bin bridge office less than meters.

　　今天，"五个孩子夜宿垃圾桶，生火取暖，一氧化碳中毒去世"的消息被媒体大量转载和关注。幼小的年龄，寒冷的雨夜，脏兮兮的垃圾箱，木炭生火取暖的痕迹，当这些零散信息拼合在一起，也拼出了人们的哀伤与追问。"身份不详的孩子，面容模糊的孩子，直到他们离开人世，人世却对他们的姓氏，以及从哪里来，要到哪里去，以及他们的身份，何以出现在垃圾箱内等信息茫然无知。无论如何，这是一种人世的失聪，以及一种社会的失灵。"这是今天一家媒体发表的评论。

today,"Five children night trash can,Lit the fire,Carbon monoxide poisoning death"News media is a large number of transfer and attention.Young age,Cold rainy night,Dirty trash bin,Charcoal fire heating traces,When these scattered information split together,Also spell out people's grief and cross-examine."Identity is unknown children,Face fuzzy children,Until they leave the world,But the world to their surname,And come from,Where do you go,And their identity,Why appeared in the garbage information such as ignorance at a loss.No matter how to,This is a kind of the deaf,And a social failure."This is a media comments today.

　　今天，距离悲剧已过去四天，作为本事件最基础，也最重要的信息，公众希望当地相关部门能进给予社会一个明确的调查结果。据新华社报道，有目击者称，这五名孩子事发前曾在垃圾箱旁的拆迁工地搭起塑料帐篷，在里面居住多日。若事实真是如此，那么是否有目击者想过，这些孩子为何不回家、不上学，又是否有人曾在事发前向警方、街道、民政等部门反映过孩子的情况，悲剧发生，疑问还有很多。

today,Distance tragedy has the past four days,As the most basic events,Also the most important information,The public wants to see the local related departments could enter into the society to give a clear results.According to xinhua news agency,Witnesses said,The five children before the incident was in the dustbin side of the site set up a plastic tents,In many days to live.If the fact is really such,So whether a thought,These children why don't you go home/Don't go to school,And if anyone was in the prior to the police/street/Civil affairs departments to reflect the situation of the child,tragedy,Doubt there are many.

　　白岩松：

BaiYanSong:

　　10岁左右的五个男孩，头一天温度是零上六度，等于说极低，在垃圾箱内死亡，而且是为了取暖点火，最后一氧化碳中毒，这是当地的市委宣传部的相关官员提供的事实。把这些关键词哪怕是两三个组合在一起，已经足够我们震惊了，但是当这些所有的关键词都组接在一起，变成这条新闻的时候，我们所有人的难过是再自然不过的。甚至在这种难过当中，都有一种自责，我们是不是也是失去了某种责任，看到他们的人当时为什么没有去帮助他们，而没有看到他们的人为什么没有去寻找他们等等。评论当然可以从现在开始，但是为什么我一开始的时候要说留到明天再说，太多的事实模糊不清。

10 years old to control the five boys,The first day the temperature is above freezing six degrees,As much as to say a very low,In the rubbish box at the death,And is for warm ignition,Finally carbon monoxide poisoning,This is the local municipal party committee propaganda department officials to provide fact.Put these keywords even two or three together,We have enough shocked,But when all of these key words are formed together,Become a news,All of our sad it's only natural.Even in this kind of sad,There is a kind of remorse,We are also lost some responsibility,See them when why didn't go to help them,Don't see their factitious what is done not have to look for them and so on.Review of course can start from now,But why I started to say again until tomorrow,The fact that too much blurred.

　　我们现在来看已知的一些事实，事发的地点是毕节七星关区流仓桥办事处环东路的一垃圾箱，这个区不是城区，是一个待开发、正在开发中的地区，将来可能会繁华，但是现在还不够繁华。事发的天气，在前一天最低气温是6度，而且夜里曾经下毛毛雨，可以想像非常冷，男孩的年龄有八九岁到十一二岁，然后平均大约十岁左右，可是这个现在都没有得到最后的证实。男孩的身份，我们记者去了解，三名兄弟家的五个孩子。死因，尸检的结果显示是一氧化碳中毒死亡，垃圾箱内有木炭生火取暖的痕迹，但是这一切还不能让我们对这一事实有一个清晰的判断。比如说是当地人吗？是临时跟家长闹别扭跑出来？另外他的家长在身边吗？在当地吗？还是只是留守儿童，从家里出来已经流浪了很久，还是出来才几个小时，临时跑出来，有大一点的孩子带头？

We now come to the known facts,The site is bijie seven cities flow bin bridge office ring road of a dustbin,This area is not city,Is a to be developed/Is the development of the area,The future may be busy,But now is not enough prosperous.The weather,The lowest temperature is 6 degrees,And the night was drizzling,Can imagine very cold,The boy's age to his preteens eight or nine years old,Then the average about ten years old,But this are now didn't get the last confirmed.The boy's identity,Our reporters to understand,Three brothers home five children.Cause of death,Autopsy results show that carbon monoxide poisoning is death,Dustbin has charcoal fire heating traces,But all this still can't let us to the fact has a clear judgment.For instance, the local people?Is temporary and parents ran out be difficult with sb?In addition to his parents in the side?In a local?Or just left-behind children,Came out from home has been homeless for a long time,Or out just a few hours,Temporary ran out,A great little children to take the lead?

　　另外有人说在附近的工地上看到过他们。我们来看一下照片，这就是有目击者说曾经看到有孩子住在这样的帐篷里，这就是那个羽毛球拍，我们看这是一个拆迁的工地，但是现在也未经得到证实，他们看到的确定就是这死亡的五个孩子吗？因此，疑问太多，今天下午的时候，去连线采访了毕节市委宣传部的副部长唐部长，听听他来给我们提供的最新的判断。

Someone else said in nearby the site to see them.We take a look at photos,This is the witness said once saw children live in such a tent,This is the badminton racket,We see this is a demolition of the site,But now also without confirmed,They see is the determination of the death of the five children?therefore,Undoubtedly many,This afternoon's time,To attachment interview bijie municipal party committee propaganda department deputy minister tang minister,Listen to him to give us the latest judgment.

　　记者：

reporter:

　　五个孩子身份现在已经确认了是吗？

Five children identity has now confirmed that is?

　　唐光星 毕节市委宣传部常务副部长：

TangGuangXing bijie municipal party committee propaganda department executive vice minister:

　　确认了。

confirmed.

　　记者：

reporter:

　　这五个孩子具体是什么样的情况？

The five children specific is what kind of situation?

　　唐光星：

TangGuangXing:

　　就是七星关的人。

Is seven off people.

　　记者：

reporter:

　　七星关本地的？

Seven shut the local?

　　唐光星：

TangGuangXing:

　　对，本地的。

to,local.

　　记者：

reporter:

　　他们的父母，还有五个孩子的家庭状况，现在已经了解到的是什么样的信息？

Their parents,There are five children family status,Now to know what kind of information?

　　唐光星：

TangGuangXing:

　　家庭状况，有的在外打工，有的离异的，正在联系亲属、家长来认定。

Family status,Some working outside,Some divorced,Are contacting relatives/To recognize the parents.

　　记者：

reporter:

　　他们的家长现在已经知道了吗？

Their parents now already know?

　　唐光星：

TangGuangXing:

　　现在正在联系。

Are now contact.

　　记者：

reporter:

　　三个兄弟的五个孩子，他们都是亲戚是吗？

Three brothers five children,They are all relatives is?

　　唐光星：

TangGuangXing:

　　应该是亲戚吧。三兄弟，这个兄弟按照一般情况下，有的是亲兄弟，不一定，有的是堂兄弟，不太说得清楚。

It should be relative.The three brothers,The brothers according to general cases,Have brothers,not,Cousins have a plenty of,Don't say clearly.

　　记者：

reporter:

　　这三个兄弟是在外地打工吗？还是也是在七星关区下面的各乡镇？

The three brothers are in the field work?Or is in seven cities the following the villages and towns?

　　唐光星：

TangGuangXing:

　　可能有的在外面打工，现在正在联系当中。

May be some in the outside part-time job,Is now in contact.

　　记者：

reporter:

　　这五个孩子现在能确认是不是流浪儿童？

The five children can now check if the street children?

　　唐光星：

TangGuangXing:

　　不能确认。

Cannot confirm.

　　记者：

reporter:

　　为什么不能确认？

Why can't confirm?

　　唐光星：

TangGuangXing:

　　因为最后不知道他们从家里面怎么出来的，要他们家里人把情况介绍完了以后才知道。这个问题，很多媒体打电话问，他们一开始定性就是流浪儿童。我专门问过民政局，什么叫流浪儿童，有一个说法的，所以我们没有得到最后的认定之前，不好说他们就是流浪儿童。

For in the end do not know them from home how inside out,To introduce the situation after the family didn't know.The problem,Make a phone call to ask a lot of media,They began to qualitative is street children.I specifically asked civil affairs bureau,What call street children,A statement,So we didn't get the last recognized before,Not say they are street children.

　　白岩松：

BaiYanSong:

　　什么是流浪儿童呢？我们来看看，流浪儿童指年龄在18岁以下，这五个孩子是符合的。脱离家庭或者离开监护人流落社会连续超过24个小时（这是一个关键时间点），失去基本生存保障而陷入困境的未成年人，最最不能确定的是不是连续超过24小时，因为现在不能判断，究竟之前的人看到的是不是他们，如果真的是这五个孩子，证明可能已经超过24消失了，但是现在不能够证明，他们是不是出来才几个小时，跟家里闹别扭等等，但是刚才这段采访，又给我们向前推进了一步，这五个孩子是三个兄弟家里的五个孩子，他们应该是亲属，而且有的是出外打工，然后有的是离异的家庭，他们属于某种留守儿童。另外，他们不是外地来到毕节的，是当地人，因为这个区域是城乡接合部，农村城市结合的地方，到底家庭状况是什么样，现在还没有一个更准确的消息。

What is the street children?Let's look at,Refers to the street children aged below 18,The five children is conformed with the.From family or leave guardian driftage social continuous more than 24 hours(This is a key point in time),Lose basic living security and troubled minors,Most not sure is continuous more than 24 hours,Because it can't judge,Actually before to see if they were,If really is this five children,That might have been more than 24 disappeared,But now can't prove,Whether they come out just a few hours,With home be difficult with sb, etc,But just this period of interview,And to give us a step forward,These five children are three brothers home five children,They should be relatives,And have a plenty of work out,Then have a plenty of divorced family,They belong to some kind of left-behind children.In addition,They are not foreign to the order,Is the local people,Because the area is urban and rural copula,Rural city combined with place,What family status is what kind of,There is no a more accurate news.

　　接下来继续向前深入，我们下午也联系了发帖子的当地市民。来，了解一下相关的情况。

The next to go ahead deeply,In the afternoon we have also contacted the post of the local citizens.to,Understand the relevant situation.

　　解说：

interpretation:

　　很多人在查询，11月15日，就是孩子们出事的当晚，毕节市的最低气温是多少，对于当地人来说，6摄氏度还没有到冬天里最寒冷的时候，但是寒冷却成为五个孩子意外死亡的直接诱引。今天，案发已经四天，除了一些媒体报道，我们在当地相关部门的官方网站找不到任何关于这起案件的相关信息及最新进展。而这起震惊全社会的事件之所以能被大家关注，最初还是由网友李先生，在11月16日晚上发布在网络论坛上的信息。

A lot of people in the query,November 15,,The children have an accident that night,Bijie city, how much is the lowest temperature,For the locals,Six degrees Celsius is not yet in winter when the cold,But cold became five children of accidental death in the uv directly.today,The four days already,In addition to some media reports,We in the local related department official website can't find anything about the case of relevant information and the latest progress.And shocked the whole social events can be attention,First or the net friend Mr. Li,On November 16th evening issued in the network of information on the BBS.

　　李先生 网上发帖者：

Mr. Li the bonusgiven is online:

　　因为我家离事发的地点不是太远，16日的当晚我就听路人在议论这个事情，然后晚上我就通过一些方式，证实这个事情以后，当时我想早一点把它发布出来，当晚我就在凯迪网上发出来了。

Because my home is not far from the site,16 that night I listen to passers-by in talking about this thing,And then in the evening I will through some ways,To confirm this things,At that time I want to earlier release it,That night I was sent to the Heidi online.

　　解说：

interpretation:

　　为了获取更多信息，李先生在第二天早晨赶往事发现场，并找到了第一个发现孩子们尸体的拾荒老人。

In order to obtain more information,Mr. Li in the next morning to the scene,And find the first found that children body glean and collect scraps old man.

　　李先生：

Mr. Li:

　　（老人）那天早晨去捡垃圾的时候，第一个垃圾箱、第二个垃圾箱都没事，到第三个的时候，他就发现里面睡了几个孩子。她就拿一个小锄头，她捡垃圾就用那个锄头去拨弄那些孩子，那些孩子不动了。然后其中有一个鼻子还在冒泡，而且里面有一个破旧的沙锅，可能是孩子用来烧火取暖的。

(The old man)The morning to pick up garbage time,The first dustbin/A second trash bin is all right,To the third time,He found it slept a few children.She took a small hoe,She is picking up litter with the hoe to finger the children,The children did not move.Then one of the nose is still in bubble,And there is a shabby terrine,Children may be used to fire heating.

　　解说：

interpretation:

　　当天李先生还询问了事发现场的环卫工人及周边商户、居民等十多位市民，通过他们反映，这五个孩子在这附近出现已经有一段时间了。

The day Mr. Li also asked the scene of the sanitation worker and the surrounding merchant/Residents, etc more than ten of citizens,Through the they reflect,The five children in this neighborhood there's been a long time.

　　李先生：

Mr. Li:

　　有人告诉我说，这几个孩子已经在垃圾箱侧面一个拆迁的工地上，已经是（出现）好几天了，他们在那里搭了窝棚，还在这里嬉闹，捡到一个皮球，就拿着那个破皮球在那里玩。还有就是距离出事地点两百米的毕节学院菜市场，孩子爱到那里去找东西吃。那里卖菜的人都看见过，有的说有个把星期了，有的说有十多天了，反正说法不一样。

Someone told me that,These a few child has in the dustbin side a of the site,is(appear)For several days,There they build the shack,Still here playfulness,Pick up a ball,He took that to break the ball in play there.There is a distance of two hundred meters to the accident spot beijie college markets,Children love to go there to find something to eat.There selling vegetables are seen,Some say there are a week,Some say there are more than ten days,It is not the same.

　　解说：

interpretation:

　　根据市民反映的情况，李先生于17日上午，以五流浪儿为避寒闷死垃圾箱为题，再次发布了一篇详细的帖子，而正是这篇帖子迅速引发了大家的关注。而截止到今天，我们浏览毕节市主要的两家媒体，毕节日报、乌蒙新报，并没有找到当地关于这起事件的相关报道。

According to the situation of citizens reflect,Mr. Li in the 17th morning,With five waif for hibernate smother dustbin issues,Once again issued a detailed posts,And it is this post caused the attention of more quickly.And by the end of today,We browse bijie city the main two media,Bijie daily/New GUI zhou plateau,Did not find the local about this incident reports related.

　　白岩松：

BaiYanSong:

　　其实毕节对于我来说并不陌生，对于很多观众来说可能也不算陌生，因为今年的"感动中国"有一位获奖者就是从毕节走出来的，他是一位从新疆出来的老哥，他在毕节卖羊肉串，用卖羊肉串挣下来的微薄的钱去资助很多贫困的孩子，所以他的行为感动了中国，因此毕节这个城市也跟这种感动紧密相连在一起。

In fact bijie for me is not new,For many audience may also not strange,For this year's"Moved China"A winners from bijie is out,He is a from xinjiang's out,He in bijie sell shish kebab,Use sell shish kebab earn down the little money to aid many poor children,So his behavior moved China,Therefore bijie the city is closely linked with the moved together.

　　几个月过后，当毕节再次出现在我面前的时候，却是一个难过的事情，而且不是感动，是震动。其实中国人常说一句话"温饱"，我们往往把重音放在了"饱"上，可能对于一个北方人来说，"温"可是在"饱"的前面。如果要是饿了，可能一天还扛得过去，如果要是冷了，而且真的很冷，这一天是很难扛过去的。也正是因为"温"在"饱"的前面，所以"温饱"加在一起是人的最低的生活保障，必须去保障它，但是这几个孩子恐怕就倒在了最低的保障都没有得到的"温"上。

After a few months,When bijie again when appeared in front of me,It is a sad thing,And it's not touched,Is vibration.In fact the Chinese people often say a word"Food and clothing",We often put stress on the"full"on,May for a northern people,"temperature"But in"full"In front of.If if hungry,May one day also take in the past,If cold,And really cold,This day is difficult to carry the past.Also because"temperature"in"full"In front of,so"Food and clothing"Together is the lowest life guarantee,Must go to safeguard it,But I'm afraid this a few children fall in the lowest security didn't get"temperature"on.

　　但是现在依然有很多困惑，刚才讲了，那位李先生说，旁边有很多人看到了窝棚等等，但是相信这几个孩子被当地的警方给拉走了之后，这些人应该没有见过这几个孩子的遗体的，到底是不是他们看到的孩子就是这几个孩子，我觉得谜团依然很大。来继续听听毕节市委宣传部的唐部长的相关采访。

But now there are still a lot of confusion,Just about the,The Mr. Li said,There is a lot of people see the shack, etc,But believe it a few children were local police to draw away after the,Such people should have not seen these a few children of the body,Whether or not they saw children is this a few children,I think the mystery is still great.To continue to listen to bijie municipal party committee propaganda department minister tang related interview.

　　记者：

reporter:

　　这几个孩子在附近的拆迁工地的工棚里住了一段时间，这个信息确认了吗？

These a few children in the near the site of the barrack live in a period of time,This information confirmed?

　　唐光星：

TangGuangXing:

　　这个信息我不知道，这个我要问一下。

The information I don't know,This I will ask.

　　记者：

reporter:

　　这个是哪些部门在确认？

This is what branch in the confirmation?

　　唐光星：

TangGuangXing:

　　这个应该是由拆迁工地、城管在那个地方活动的那个区域范围确定。

This should be from the site/Urban management in the local activities of the regional scope.

　　记者：

reporter:

　　现在网上有一些评论，相关的政府部门、整个社会应该承担一些相应的责任，不知道您对这个您自己怎么看？

Now online have some comments,Relevant government departments/The whole society should take some corresponding responsibility,Do not know you to this your own opinion?

　　唐光星：

TangGuangXing:

　　事件的发生由于各种原因导致的，涉及到相关部门，在知情的情况下、了解情况的基础上，能够尽可能地按照有关的职能、职责该关心的关心。我想这个作为社会上民众对政府管理提出来这样的要求，我认为这也是说得过去，也是对的。

The occurrence of events due to various reasons,Involves to the relevant departments,In the knowledge of the situation/On the basis of know the situation,Can as far as possible, in accordance with the relevant functions/The duty of care care.I think this as a social the public judges the government's management carry out such requirements,I think this is also said to the past,Are right.
记者：

reporter:

　　现在成立一个调查组了吗？

Now to set up a panel?

　　唐光星：

TangGuangXing:

　　肯定的，一开始接到情况报告后，马上成立了工作组。有民政的，有城管的，有教育的，还要排查，还有公安的，慢慢了解。毕竟是五个生命，还有一些相关的部门。

sure,After a start getting report,Immediately established working group.Have the civil affairs,In terms of urban management has,Education is the,Also regularly,And the public security,Slowly understanding.After all is five life,And some related departments.

　　白岩松：

BaiYanSong:

　　感谢唐部长，几乎像扮演了新闻发言人一样，这两天全国很多的媒体在相关采访的时候只能找到他这儿，他也会有一些为难的地方，为什么要去感谢他呢？有的时候会形成一个对比，就在节目开始之前的时候，专门去查看了一下毕节的政府网站，还有毕节公安局的网站，结果在政府的网站上有贯彻会议精神、工作大会的动员、召开抗震救灾总结表彰，甚至是秋季动物集中免疫工作全面结束等等，可是没有这条信息。

Thanks to tang minister,Almost like played as the spokesman,This two days the national a lot of media in the related interview can only find him here,He also will have some difficult place,Why do you want to go to thank him?Sometimes will form a contrast,In the beginning of the programme of before,Specially to see once bijie government website,And bijie public security bureau website,Results in the government's web site have to carry out the conference spirit/The mobilization work/Earthquake relief for a summary,Even is the autumn animal concentrated immune of the overall work of the end and so on,But without this information.

　　再来看公安局的，以为公安局应该会有，结果是明年1月1日我省驾考的项目增加，小警务编制警民和谐网，然后社区群众的兄弟等等，也没有这一条。我相信这两天其实全国的媒体去查看毕节的政府网站和公安局的网站的人应该很多，他们都失望而回了。我不知道半个小时之后，或者这个节目播出一段时间之后，或者是一两个小时之后，毕节的政府网站和公安网站是不是能给大家提供更快捷、更真实的这种信息，因为现在每一个人都为这五个孩子感到心疼和难过，他们想了解更多的事实，希望这个页面尽早地更改。

Again to see the public security bureau,Think that the public security bureau should have,The result is January 1 next year our province coming exam project increase,Small police prepare police-community harmonious network,Then the community people's brother, etc,Also does not have this one.I believe that this two days actually the national media to check bijie government web sites and public security bureau website should be a lot of,They were disappointed and back.I don't know half an hour later,Or the program broadcast after a period of time,Or is a two hours later,Bijie government website and the public security website if I can give everybody to provide more quickly/The more true this information,Because now everyone for the five children feel love dearly and sad,They want to know more facts,Hope this page to change as soon as possible.

　　接下来，我们当然要关注的是我们整个社会为什么会让五个孩子离开了我们呢？哪些方面失职呢？我们要怎么去补这个网呢？

The next,Of course, we will focus on is our the whole society why will make five children left us?What respect? Dereliction of duty?How are we going to go to complement the net?

　　解说：

interpretation:

　　今天由毕节市相关部门成立的调查组，对于事件的调查还在进行当中。今天毕节民政局的相关工作人员也接受了我们的采访。

Today by the bijie city relevant departments to set up the investigation team,For investigation of the.Today bijie bureau of civil affairs related working personnel also accepted our interview.

　　陶进 毕节市民政局社会事务科负责人：

TaoJin bijie citizens political social affairs department person in charge:

　　市委成立了调查组，由区委区政府，还有事发地的政府部门组成了调查组，有民政、有公安，公安部门是主要的（负责部门）。

Municipal party committee established the investigation team,District by the district party committee,And in the local government department formed the investigation team,A civil/A public security,The public security department is the main(Responsible for the department).

　　解说：

interpretation:

　　陶进还向我们介绍，目前当地民政部门已经向警方提供了自2011年以来救助过的流浪儿童名单，5名男童是否在这个名单里还有待于警方通过指纹比对进一步核实。

TaoJin also introduced to us,At present the local civil affairs departments have provided to the police since 2011 salvage the street children list,5 whether boy in this list has yet to be further than the police through the fingerprint verification.

　　陶进：

TaoJin:

　　因为五个孩子身上没有身份证明，需要进一步慢慢核查，然后通报社区。

Because five children no proof of identity,Slowly need further verification,Then bulletin community.

　　解说：

interpretation:

　　然而发生在毕节的这场悲剧，很多媒体将其与流浪未成年人的现状联系在一起，并且表示事情的发生再次对流浪未成年人的救助保护敲响了警钟。去年8月，《国务院办公厅关于加强和改进流浪未成年人救助保护工作的意见》发布，表示要对流浪未成年人现象较重地区的相关负责人问责，并确保让每一个流浪孩子回家。这也成为民政部门、社会救助机构的行动目标。

However happened in bijie this tragedy,A lot of the media and the current situation of the homeless juveniles were associated with,And say things happened to stray again minors' rescue protection was a wake-up call.Last August,[The general office of the state council on strengthening and improving the minors stray salvage protection work opinion]release,Said to stray minors phenomenon heavier areas of the relevant person in charge of accountability,And to ensure that every one of his wandering children home.This has been the civil affairs department/Social relief agency action target.

　　陶进：

TaoJin:

　　这个工作从去年的二月份开始实施以来，我们通过这个专项行动救助了158名流浪未成年人。

This work from last year's February since implementation,We through this special action to rescue the 158 stray minors.

　　解说：

interpretation:

　　在毕节市的8个县区目前已经有6个社区设立了救助站。

In bijie city eight counties has six community set up a relief station.

　　陶进：

TaoJin:

　　每天早上八点半到晚上九点组成工作组和公安、城管我们组成工作组，在城区的主要街道，包括隧道、桥梁、寒洞、地下通道这些重要的地方，这些流浪人员容易聚集的地方实行巡逻，我们全部是发现一例救助一例。

Every morning at 8:30 to 9 o 'clock in the evening the composition and the public security/Urban management we make working group,The main street of the city,Including tunnel/bridge/Cold hole/Underground passage these important place,These stray personnel easy to gather place a patrol,We are all found a salvage case.

　　解说：

interpretation:

　　5名男童为什么没有去救助站，他们是流浪儿童还是没有监管人的留守儿童？每天巡查的工作组为什么没有及时发现他们？相关细节仍然需要进行详细的调查。

Five boy's why didn't go to rescue station,They are street children or no superintendent of left-behind children?Daily patrol team why not timely find them?Details still need to carry on the detailed investigation.

　　白岩松：

BaiYanSong:

　　首先难过，接下来有愤怒，有疑惑，有自责。为什么是这样的几个关键词呢？首先你可能会想到民政部门或者说当地的救助部门为什么没有找到这个孩子？说句良心话，再往深了去想，恐怕也很难，得有多少工作人员像撒网一样在城乡结合部得把孩子找到呢。但是说到这儿，并不是可以推卸责任，反过来要去想，为什么没有一个透明的这种渠道，假如说周围社会上的人，包括菜市场的人都说过见过他，旁边走过的人也见过他在帐篷里生活很多天，如果这些人有知道这样一个渠道，打起一个电话，打一个电话，能跟民政部门或者救助部门联络起来，那这个孩子不就得救了，不就拥有温暖呢。我们究竟是哪儿存在一些问题？

First of all sad,Then there is anger,Have doubts,Have self-abuse.Why is such a few words?First of all, you probably think of home affairs department or local rescue departments why not find this child?Speak conscience words,Go back to deep to think,I'm afraid is hard to,To how many people work like in casting of urban and rural children have to find it.But said here,And can not shirk responsibility,In turn to think,Why not a transparent this channel,If say the people in the society around,Including markets are said met him,Walk beside the person also seen him in tents life many days,If these people have know such a channel,Play up a telephone,Make a telephone call,To the civil affairs departments or salvage department contact up,That the child not saved,Don't have? Warm.Where are we really is there exist some problems?

　　接下来连线一下北京师范大学公益学院的院长、老民政王振耀。振耀，你好。

The attachment of the Beijing normal university public dean/Old civil shi.Vibration yao,hello.

　　王振耀 北京师范大学中国公益研究院院长：

Shi Beijing normal university Chinese public research institute President:

　　你好，岩松。

hello,YanSong.

　　白岩松：

BaiYanSong:

　　我相信这个事你看到了之后也是非常非常难过，你想到的肯定也是要去补这个网，该怎么去补？以你的经验。

I believe that this thing after you see is also very very sad,You think of are sure to fill the net,How to fill?With your experience.

　　王振耀：

shi:

　　我觉得我看了之后，首先我确实非常难过，这个消息。因为五个孩子这件事是一个非常大的事了，我们确实心里应该对这件事做出反思。但是呢，我觉得现在有一个问题需要尽快解决的，咱们的社会正像你说的，联络渠道不顺，很多标志不明，这样有设施，但是真正变成一套工作系统，还是有很大的提升空间。

I think I see the later,First of all, I was very sad indeed,The news.Five children because it is a very big things,We really should make the heart of this reflection.But it,I think now have a problem need to solve as soon as possible,Let's social like you said,Contact channels were,A lot of mark unknown,Such a facility,But the real into a working system,There are still a lot of will to rise.

　　白岩松：

BaiYanSong:

　　举例说，比如？

For example,For example?

　　王振耀：

shi:

　　比如说现在很多设施，大家都会说我们都建了，在路边上建了很多救助站，但是救助站的电话、很多标志性的指引就少一些，软件的缺失造成硬件用起来不太方便，所以这回有一些缺陷，就是对孩子们的一些缺陷。

For example, many facilities,Everyone will say that we are all built,On the side of the road built on a lot of rescue station,But rescue station telephone/A lot of the iconic guide is less,The lack of the hardware software by using up is not very convenient,So this time have some defects,Is the children's some defects.

　　第二，现在硬件缺失，从全世界来看，尊重儿童，或者说保障儿童的安全，全世界发达国家全部都建了有儿童的庇护所，包括我们的香港都建有这样的硬件设施，还有专业工作人员，有社工，他们专门来做儿童的工作。现在我们这儿在这方面还是一种空白。我们总是觉得只要有救助、有饭吃，这样就行了，实际上孩子们的这种安全是需要大量的专业社工，咱们现在缺社工、缺社区类的庇护所，然后缺这样的专业工作系统，现在孩子们出问题在我们国家其实存在着相当大的风险。

The second,Now lack of hardware,From around the world to see,Respect children,Or guarantee the safety of the children,The world developed countries all built a children's shelter,Including our Hong Kong are all built such hardware facilities,There are professional staff,A social worker,They are specifically designed to do the work of children.Now we here in this aspect is still a blank.We always think that as long as there is relief/eat,This will do for the,In fact the children's this kind of security is need a large number of professional social work,Let's now lack of social work/Lack of community type of shelter,Then the lack of such a professional work system,Now that the children are out of the question in our country in fact, there's a quite big risk.

　　白岩松：

BaiYanSong:

　　非常感谢王振耀给我们带来的解读，你说的非常对，既需要硬件方面的改善，更需要软件，靠人找孩子很难，需要通过制度和透明的这种渠道，比如说如果全国的每一个城市，当遇到这样的孩子的时候，任何一个市民都知道，哪怕只要拨110，立即能联网，给我联到救助的系统，这样就非常简洁和方便，这样孩子们的悲剧可能就不会发生了。其实今年《新闻1+1》曾经报到过，在江西有五个留守儿童，也是亲属，都在游泳的时候淹死了，这样的悲剧已经发生过，我们真的不希望这样的悲剧将来再看到了，但愿这是最后一次。

Thank you very much shi bring us reading,What you say is very to,Needs not only the improvement of the hardware,Need more software,People find it is difficult to rely on children,Need through the system and transparent this channel,For example if the national each city,When such a child,Any citizen all know,Even as long as dial 110,Immediate networking,Give me league to salvage system,This is very simple and convenient,So the children's tragedy may wouldn't have happened.But this year the[News 1 + 1]Once check in,In JiangXiYou five left-behind children,Is also relative,In swimming drowned,Tragedies like this has happened,We really don't want such a tragedy to see the future,I hope this is the last time.

　　孩子们，安息。

The children,rest.