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学生看同学打架被罚2万 学校称知情不报该罚--亲稳网络舆情监测室
2012-12-23

  本报讯 别人找人打架,我只是因为在场看了会,学校就要我交2万元的保证金,并说这是最后通牒,如若再犯错,就直接走人,这学上得人憋屈的。”提起榆林市开发区华栋中学对自己的处理,17岁的高三学生刘强(化名)觉得非常沮丧。

Report from our correspondent others find someone to fight,I just because the watched,The school will I make 20000 yuan deposit,And said that this is the last time,If make mistakes again,Go straight,This study of the gadites humbled."Mention in yulin city, the development zone HuaDong middle school for their treatment,17 year old high school students daiju narita(alias)Feel very depressed.

  

学生:没参与打架,罚款有悖常理 students:Not to participate in the fight,Fine perverse

  刘强的母亲李女士12月15日告诉记者,11月24日下午放学后,刘强的同班同学赵明(化名)请了社会上的几个人去和高二的学生打架。这件事刘强都知情,并且打架时他也一直在场,只是没有动手。参与打架的学生都被学校开除,同时,学校在12月4日晚上向李女士下了最后通牒说:“刘强的行为影响极其恶劣,念其没有动手打人,校董事会决定让李女士给刘强交2万元保证金,如若刘强再犯错,学校就只有开除了,到时候刘强就拿钱走人。”

Daiju narita mother ms. Li December 15 told reporters,On November 24, in the afternoon after school,Daiju narita classmates et(alias)Please the social few people go to school and students to fight.It is daiju narita informed,And fight he also has been present,But no hands.Participate in fighting the students kicked out of school,At the same time,Schools in December 4, in the evening to ms. Li an ultimatum said:"Daiju narita behavior influence is very bad,Read the hit no hands,The school board decided to let ms. Li to daiju narita pay 20000 yuan deposit,If daiju narita to make mistakes,School is only fired,When the time comes daiju narita took money leave."

  李女士说,他家离学校比较远,娃平时就住在学校,只有周末回家住。11月24日,刘强和往常一样晚上8点多到家,并未看出有啥异常。“要是刘强的班主任不给我打电话,我到现在都不知道,到底发生了什么事。”李女士说。

Ms. Li said,His house is far away from school,Eva usually live in school,Only the weekend to go home to live.On November 24,,Daiju narita and usual night more than eight home,Did not see have what anomaly."If daiju narita head teacher don't give me a call,I don't know,What on earth happened."Ms. Li said.

  “我又没有参与打架,为啥要罚我呢。我不想上学了,我现在跳楼的心都有了。”前段时间刘强因为此事,闷闷不乐,情绪很不稳定。

"I was not involved in the fight,Why? I was punished.I don't want to go to school,I now to jump off a building of heart have."Because this paragraph of time daiju narita,blue,Mood is very unstable.

  

家长:孩子有错,但处罚实在太重 parents:The child is wrong,But the punishment was too heavy

  据了解,该学校学生犯错后,第一次是严重警告,第二次是罚款2000,并降为试读生。第三次若再犯就劝退。刘强之所以会被下最后通牒,是因为他在高二时,曾因为上课玩手机被严重警告过。今年9月中旬的一天中午,在学校食堂吃饭时,刘强又因让同学帮忙打饭和值班老师发生冲突,被学校罚款2000元,并降为试读生。

It is understood,The school students after making mistakes,The first is a serious warning,The second is a fine of 2000,And drop for probationer.If the third time again will QuanTui.Daiju narita is will be an ultimatum,Because he when at senior high school,Once because the class play mobile phone be seriously warned.In the middle of September day at noon,When having a meal in the school canteen,Daiju narita and because let schoolmates help dozen rice and teacher on duty conflict,The school is a fine of $2000,And drop for probationer.

  “这事对娃打击很大,上次罚了2000元,孩子一下子就倒退了十名。现在,只希望孩子能好好的,不要做出傻事,顺利参加完高考就好了。娃有不对的地方,但学校的处罚实在太重了,对于普通家庭来说,2万元并非小数目,要是一下子拿不出,那孩子该怎么办”?李女士称,他们已从亲戚家借钱凑够了一万已交给校方,剩下的一万通过与学校协商,等凑够之后再交。

"This a great shock to Eva,The last time a 2000 yuan,The child was back the ten.now,Only hope that children can better,Don't make foolish,Well it is good for the college entrance examination.Eva have a wrong place,But the school punishment is much too heavy,For the average families,20000 dollars is not a small number,If suddenly don't have,The child do"?Ms. Li said,They have to borrow money from relatives gather together enough ten thousand has been handed over to the school,The rest of the ten thousand through consultation with the school,Marta: and then pay.

  

校方:一切规章制度,只为了更好管理 school:All rules and regulations,Just for better management

  从家长提供的一份录音资料里,记者了解到,处理刘强时,该校的教导处主任蒋从祖曾表示:“在我们学校,严禁打架斗殴,尤其是请社会上的人参与,这性质就相当恶劣。像刘强对赵明打架这件事,从头到尾都知情的情况下,却不给学校汇报。虽说刘强没有义务这么做,但作为一个高三的学生,不分是非对错,只是觉得自己和赵明关系好,现在哥们义气就这么重,这对他将来的成长是很不利的。学校的一切规章制度只是为了更好地管理和教育他们。”

From parents provide a recording materials,The reporter understands,Processing LiuJiangShi,The school's teaching affair office director jiang from face has said:"In our school,It is strictly prohibited to fighting,Especially please social participation,This property is quite bad.Like daiju narita to fight it as illustrated,From the beginning to the end of the familiar with the situation,But don't give the school report.Although daiju narita under no obligation to do so,But as a high school student,Regardless of right and wrong and,Just feel good relationship and illustrated,Now the elder brothers personal loyalty so heavy,This to his future growth is very bad.All the rules and regulations of the school is in order to better management and education they."

  这个录音材料中,该校副校长苗海平则表示:家有家法,校有校规,对于刘强和赵明的处罚完全是按照学校的规定执行的,刘强明知赵明请了社会上的人要和高二的同学打架还跟着去,虽然他没有动手,但人多士气大,刘强就算站在那,也是给赵明在壮胆。作为高三的学生,自己应该也会考虑问题了,你完全可以随便编个理由,不要出现在现场,或者知道后及时给老师汇报。这个处罚结果是校董事会经过慎重考虑才做出的决定。

This recording materials,The school MiaoHaiPing vice President, said:By home,School has the school rules,For daiju narita and et punishment is completely in accordance with the provisions of the school,Daiju narita knowing et please the social people and senior high school classmate fight also follow to,Although he didn't begin,But many big morale,Daiju narita even stand in the,As illustrated in courage.As a high school student,You should also consider the problem,You can literally plait a reason,Don't appear in the field,Or know timely report to the teacher.The punishment is the school board after careful consideration to make decision.

  对于此事,记者于12月18日,电话采访了该校校长李锦成,他表示,对于学校收取保证金的事,实属是无奈之举,之前并没有此规定,但后来由于有不少学生打架之后又不给人家付医药费,并且还有请社会上的人员参与打架,还有带刀子的,实在是太危险了。学校收取保证金只是为了给学生们一个警示,如若他们不再犯错,毕业之后钱都会如数退还给他们。

For this,Reporter in st,Telephone interviews with the school's headmaster, LiJinCheng,He said,For schools to charge the deposit,It is with trepidation,The rules and not before,But then because there are a lot of students after the fight and don't give people pay the medical bills,And please social personnel in the fight,And with the knife,It's too dangerous.Schools to charge deposit just to give the students a warning,If they don't make mistakes,The money will be refunded after graduation to them.

  陕西富能律师事务所的律师常思琪表示,根据《教育法》相关规定,公民有受教育的权利和义务,学校应本着教育为主、惩罚为辅的原则,可对学生采取其他处分。作为学校,本身并没有权力对学生进行罚款或收取押金,因此,华栋中学对刘强的处罚是违法的,刘强及其家人可以向教育行政部门申诉。“另外,根据教育部有关规定,学校无权私自开除学生,必须经上级主管部门同意,而且还得经听证会通过,所以说,该学校对赵明及参与打架的其他学生,直接勒令开除的做法,首先在程序上是违法的。”

Shaanxi rich can law firm lawyers ChangSiQi said,According to the[education]Related regulations,Citizens have the rights and obligations by education,The school should be in line with the education is given priority to/An ounce of prevention is worth a punishment principle,Students can take other sanctions.As a school,Itself has no power to the student to carry on the fine or collection deposit,so,HuaDong middle school to daiju narita punishment is illegal,Daiju narita and family education administrative department to appeal."In addition,According to the relevant provisions of the ministry of education,The school has no right to privately dismissed students,Must be approved by the competent department agree,But also the hearing through the,so,The school of et and participate in fighting the other students,Direct suspended from the practice,The first procedure is illegal."



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