“保教费相比征求意见标准的涨幅降了，政府会给幼儿园补贴多少？”“自愿申请退捐资助学费，幼儿园买账吗？面对优质学位一位难求，家长敢开这个口吗？”……昨日广州公办幼儿园收费新规出台，当中，调低保教费涨幅、赞助费通过申请可一次性退还等系列“大动作”再次引发舆论关注。

"Wang cost compared with the standard for advice or down,How much the government will give kindergarten subsidies?""Voluntarily apply for refund to donate for tuition fees,Kindergarten buy??Face a high degree,Parents dare to open the mouth?"……Yesterday guangzhou public kindergarten fees new rules,In the midst of the,By teaching fee increase/Sponsorship money through the applications can be one-time return series"The movement"Cause concern opinion again.

　　家长普遍表示，此番重调后的价格“较为合理”。但对于“捐资助学费可一次性全额退还”一举，市民在叫好的同时仍有不少疑虑。有业内人士指出，政府应替运作困难的公办园承担退费义务，并尽快出台一套行之有效的细化方案，监督协商处理的全过程。

Parents commonly said,This reset after the price"reasonable".But for"Donate for tuition fee can be refund at once"every,People gave at the same time there are still many doubts.The personage inside course of study points out,The government should take refund duty operation difficulties of public garden,And issued a set of effective refinement scheme as soon as possible,The whole process of supervision and consultation to deal with.

热议保教费 Establishment of hot debate"

　　家长：涨幅缩小，可以接受 parents:Or narrow,Can accept

　　得知孩子所在的省一级全日制幼儿园收费最终定位865元/月，而非之前征求意见的1050元/月，邝女士连称“比较合理”。“我觉得公办园是普惠性的，应该比民办园收费低一个等级，之前计划调到上千元一月太贵了，跟民办园几乎没有区别。”邝女士说。

That child's provincial full-time kindergarten fees 865 yuan/month end location,Rather than for advice before the 1050 yuan/month,Kuang lady even say"reasonable"."I think business is the pratt & Whitney,Should be a level lower than the private garden charge,Before planning to thousands of dollars in January is too expensive,With almost no difference between private garden."Kuang says ms.

　　此前曾有同城网站针对家长们对幼儿园收费的价格承受范围作了一项问卷调查。调查显示，在受访家长中，在不收取赞助费的情况下，对于日托幼儿园收费，有59%受访者可接受范围为500—1000元/月，24%希望在500元/月以下，仅有14%能接受1000—2000元/月。对全托而言，超过半数的家长能接受的保教费范围则在1000—2000元/月。

Previously have local web site for parents of kindergarten fees limits the price made a questionnaire survey.According to the survey,In parents surveyed,Under the condition of the sponsorship not collection,For day care kindergarten fees,59% of respondents acceptable limits for 500-1000 yuan/month,24% to below 500 yuan/month,Only 14% can accept 1000-2000 yuan/month.For sponsorship,Teaching fee in more than half of parents can accept range in 1000-2000 yuan/month.

校方：若无补助，难抵成本 The school:If there is no allowance,Hard is worth the cost

　　不过，幼儿园方面却有担忧的声音。一位集体办幼儿园园长诉苦，其幼儿园为自收自支类省一级全日制幼儿园，按照新标准，每生每月定价为995元/生·月，比早前征求意见所定的1050元/生·月降低了55元。

but,Kindergarten is a voice of concern."A collective do kindergarten director bitterness,The kindergarten for the raise of provincial full-time kindergarten,According to the new standard,Every monthly pricing, born to 995 yuan/month,Earlier than for advice of 1050 yuan/month, reduced the $55.

　　她算了一笔账：按照6个班180名幼儿来算，规范化配置需要配备36名教职工。按员工工资3000元/人算，加上500元/人的员工膳食费以及社保及公积金800元/人，幼儿园的员工支出154800元/月；加上场地租金和水电费约40000元，幼儿园每月的总成本在194800元左右。如今按照每月1050元/月的保教费来收取，180名学生每月收费总额189000元便是用以维持运作的所有收入。

She forget it a bill:According to six class 180 children to calculate,Standard configuration needs to be equipped with 36 faculty.According to the staff salary RMB 3000 / person,Plus RMB 500 / person of staff meals as well as social insurance and housing fund 800 yuan/person,The kindergarten staff spending 154800 yuan/month;With the rent and utilities about 40000 yuan,The total cost of the kindergarten every month in 194800 yuan.Now according to the monthly charge to 1050 yuan/month of teaching,180 students in total fee is 189000 yuan a month is all of the income to maintain operation.

　　“假如政府没有其他的财政补贴，幼儿园在园舍修葺、固定资产折旧以及其他教育成本未算的情况下已无法填补成本了。”该园长说。

"If the government there is no other financial subsidies,Kindergarten in the repair/Fixed assets depreciation, and other education cost under the condition of not calculate can not fill the cost.""The director said.

热议赞助费 Contribution of hot debate

　　家长：少有凭据，不敢申请 parents:There is little evidence,Can't apply for

　　对于捐资助学费的退费方式，教育部门负责人日前一再明确：2012年秋季入园幼儿园自愿缴纳的捐资助学费将按照“自愿申请，协商处理”以及“幼儿园举办单位负责”两原则执行。但对于“家长需自愿交书面申请和相关票据证明”的操作方式，市民却存在不少疑惑。

To donate for refund of tuition fees,Education department person in charge has clear again and again:The fall of 2012 in the park voluntary pay the surcharge will be funded by tuition fees according to the kindergarten"To apply for,Through consultation to deal with"As well as"The kindergarten held responsible unit"Two principles of implementation.But for"Parents must be willing to hand in a written application and related notes"The operation of the way,Citizen but there are some doubts.

　　“如果幼儿园就是‘耍赖’不退，家长又有什么办法呢？”陈女士记得，当年“自愿”交赞助费的时候，幼儿园并非让家长将钱存入教育部门指定的银行账号，也不支持刷卡付款，而是让家长带着现金报名。交完钱后，除了保教费收据外，其他费用的收据盖的是其它教育机构的章，而非该幼儿园的财务专用章。

"If the kindergarten‘Play to depend on’Don't back,Parents again have what way?"Ms. Chen remember,In those days"voluntary"Into the sponsor fee,Kindergarten is not let parents deposited the money in the bank account designated by the education department,Don't support credit card payment,But for the parents with a cash register.After pay the money,In addition to the teaching fee receipt,Other fees receipt cover other education institutions of the chapter,Rather than the special financial stamp of the kindergarten.

　　还有网友指出，问题的关键还不是“能不能协商”而是“敢不敢协商”。“好不容易抢到一个学位，谁敢开这个口申请退费？孩子不要待了？”

Have net friend pointed out that,The key to the problem is not"Can you negotiate"but"Dare to negotiate"."Very not easy to a degree,Who dare to open the mouth to apply for a refund?The children don't stay?"

校方：早已使用，“吐”不出来 The school:Has been used,"vomit"Not to come out

　　提到赞助费是否会退，几位公办园园长均闪烁其辞，只说会按要求办事。“赞助费早用在设备购置上了，幼儿园也没有多余的资金，怎么退回去？”

Mentioned sponsorship money will go back,Several public garden kindergarten are prevaricate,Only say will behave according to the requirement."The sponsorship money as early as in the equipment purchase,Kindergarten also have no spare money,How to go back?"

　　有业内人士指出，以往广州对于公办幼儿园的赞助费都采用收支两条线。每学期收到的赞助费，除不足半数返还幼儿园外，其余都要如数上缴上级主管部门。而被纳入公办园的集体、企业办幼儿园则是自收自支，赞助费无须进入财政专项账户。在流向各异的现实下，退费问题的复杂性确实不容小觑。

The personage inside course of study points out,Sponsorship of past guangzhou for public kindergarten USES income and expenses two line.Sponsorship of received per semester,In addition to the return less than half of the kindergarten,The rest are to receive as much to the competent department.And be incorporated into public garden of the collective/Enterprise to do the kindergarten is raise,Sponsor fee does not need to enter the special financial account.Under the flow of reality,Refund of the complexity of the problem really be reckoned.

　　鉴于此，日前发布的新政中提出，退费将按照“谁举办谁负责”的方式，进行多方协商退款，但具体的细则在制定中。“我觉得办园的主体是政府，政府是‘出资人’，因此公办园有退款困难，政府应该负责退还。”多年热心于学前教育发展的省政协委员吴坛伟认为。

In view of this,Released by the New Deal in,A refund will be in accordance with the"Who held responsible"The way,To negotiate all a refund,But in the formulation of specific rules."I think doing the is the main body of the government,The government is‘contributor’,So public garden have a refund,The government should be responsible for the return."For many years in preschool education development of the people's committee wu wei think it.

　　南方日报记者 毕嘉琪

Southern daily reporter BiJiaQi

　　实习生 许嘉萱

Interns XuJiaXuan