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女儿求学记:英美如何对待外来孩子入学--亲民维稳网络舆情监测室
2013-02-03

女儿求学记:英美如何对待外来孩子入学

  图片说明:一位从北京来英国访问的老师,为了女儿的学校,前后奔波了一个月,甚至当着工作人员的面哭了鼻子。

caption:A from Beijing to visit Britain's teacher,In order to her daughter's school,The before and after a month,Even in front of the worker cry nose.

女儿求学记:英美如何对待外来孩子入学

  图片说明:美国人的逻辑极其简单:只要孩子美国土地上生活,就有权利接受教育。任何学校和老师,甚至都不得问及孩子是合法还是非法入境。

caption:American logic is very simple:As long as the child is in the United States life on land,Will have the right to receive education.Any school and teachers,Not even asked if the child is legal or illegal immigration.

  

来源:瞭望东方周刊 source:Lookout Oriental weekly

  最近,在上海发生了外地孩子是否可以在上海高考的争议。外来孩子是否可以在父母工作地读书?会不会挤占当地教育资源?这个问题其实不止上海和中国有,全世界都有。

recently,In Shanghai foreign children happened in Shanghai college entrance examination whether can dispute.Whether foreign children in parents where reading?Will occupy the local education resources?This problem is more than Shanghai and China,The world has.

  我女儿在上海读了幼儿园之后,先后到了美国和英国读小学和初中,因此我们在这方面也有很多的感触和痛苦。

My daughter in Shanghai after reading the kindergarten,Went to the United States and Britain have read primary school and junior high school,So we in this respect also has a lot of feeling and pain.

  在英国,女儿上学真是一件折腾人的事。2011年3月31日,到达伦敦的第三天早上,我们就带着孩子找到附近的一所小学,询问孩子入学的相关事宜。学校的女士很热情,她告诉我们说,首先应该到当地镇上委员会去申请,再由镇上统一安排到他们学校来,这是一个规定程序,学校无权自行接收学生。

In Britain,Daughter to school is a flounder man.March 31, 2011,The third day morning arrived in London,We took the children find a nearby primary school,Ask the child admission related matters.School lady very enthusiastic,She told us,First of all should go to the local town committee to apply for,Again by the unified arrangement of the town to their school,This is a prescribed procedure,The school shall not be entitled to receive the students themselves.

  此外,她还告知,他们学校女儿这个年纪的班级已经满员,如果我们申请成功,还需要镇上的教育委员会重新协调其他学校。至于所需要的材料,她说,住址证明和孩子的出生证明就行了。

In addition,She also told,Their school daughter age class has full strength,If we apply for to succeed,Also need to the town's education committee to coordinate other schools.As for the materials needed,She said,Address proof and the child's birth certificate will do.

  听起来简单,但问题接着就来了。4月1日早上,我们到了镇委会。负责接待的女士请我们出示了住址证明和孩子的出生证明。但是,当她看到我们提供的住址租房合同时,说合同不行“你们这是私下签的合同。没有中介机构盖章的合同是不被接受的”。

Sounds simple,But the question then is coming.On April 1 in the morning,We came to ZhenWeiHui.Is responsible for the reception lady please show us the address proof and the child's birth certificate.but,When she saw we provide address rental contract,Said contract no"You this is private contract.No intermediary sealed contract is not acceptable".

  她随后给了我一张打印的纸条,上面写着:在大不列颠的英格兰和威尔士境内,作为住址证明的合同,必须是通过房屋中介代理而形成的,否则将不被接受。在不被接受的情况下,可以提供以下证明中的两个:驾照、选举证、孩子受益证明(类似在英国生了孩子享受政府补助的证明)、雇主证明、税单,或雇主信件、医疗卡、房产税单等。

She then gave me a print of the note,It says:In the British territory of England and wales,As a proof of address of the contract,Must be through the housing intermediary agent and formation,Otherwise, will not be accepted.In not acceptable situation,Can provide the following proof of the two:Driver's license/Election certificate/That child benefit(Similar in Britain gave birth to the child enjoy the government subsidies proof)/Employers that/bill,Or employer letter/declares/Housing bill, etc.

  因为我是到大学做访问,再加上刚刚来,任何证明都提供不了。同行从北京中国传媒大学来做访问的李老师,听说我的事情后告诉我,她在二月份来时,为了女儿的学校,前后奔波了一个月,甚至当着工作人员的面哭了鼻子。

Because I am a university to visit,Plus just,Any proof not provide.Peer communication university of China from Beijing to visit Mr Li,Hear my things to tell me,She come in February,In order to her daughter's school,The before and after a month,Even in front of the worker cry nose.

  她告诉我,去学校开个证明再赶快去办张银行卡是证明身份最快的办法,而其他的证明如医疗卡什么的最快也得半个月才能办好。

She told me,Go to the school open a proof to go to do a bank card is the quickest way to identification,While other proof such as what declares the fastest also get half a month to do good.

  于是我给学校的工作人员Alja写了封邮件,希望能与她约个时间(英国人做事都必须要预约)开证明。

So I give the school staff Alja wrote email,Hope to be able to set up a time with her(British people do need to make an appointment)Open proof.

  谁知一等又是两天。她后来回邮件说,大学的互联网出了问题,她不能上网。没办法,大约第三天的上午才收到她的邮件,中午立刻去开了证明。

But a minute is two days.She later reply mail said,University of Internet problems,She can't surf the Internet.Can't,About the third day morning received her email,Noon go to open the proof.

  当天下午三点,再飞奔到苏格兰皇家银行,为自己办银行卡。

That afternoon,Then run to royal bank of Scotland,For running your own bank card.

  进了银行,见到一名女职员,问她可不可以开户。她看了看手表说,今天有事,你明天上午10点钟来。第二天上午11点,我们到了银行,她却责怪我们不守时。

Into the bank,See a female staff,Ask her can open an account.She looked at his watch and said,Today have,You tomorrow morning to ten o 'clock.The second day at 11 am,We came to the bank,She is blame us not to be punctual.

  这里有文化理解上的不同。我以为她所说的10点,意思是她第二天10点上班,之后到就行。但她说的其实是专门为我留的时间,西方办事一般是如此,但初到英国的我们并不知道。

Here are the different cultural understanding.I thought she said ten points,The second day mean she 10 point work,To go after.But she says it is specifically for I leave time,Western business is generally so,But first arrived in England we don't know.

  所幸她最终还是把事情办了。当天下午,我们带着学校证明和银行证明再次来到镇委会,但回复仍然是不行,他们坚持要文件上列出的、我暂时无法提供的材料。

Fortunately, she finally or make things done.In the afternoon,We took the school proof and bank proof to ZhenWeiHui again,But is still no reply,They insisted that the file list/I temporarily unable to provide material.

  一位中国来的老师给我们出了个主意,就是投诉,并给了我投诉部门和具体负责人的电话。我打电话过去,仍然无用。4月7日,这位老师陪我们再次来到镇委会。争论半天,结果是,材料可以收下,但并不能保证有效。

A Chinese teacher gave us an idea,Is complaints,And gave me the complaint department and the person in charge of the telephone.I make a phone call past,Still useless.April 7,,The teacher came to ZhenWeiHui with us again.Debate the along while,The result is,Material can take,But does not guarantee effective.

  我们只能离开,只能等待。我知道,孩子快速在英国入学已经不太可能。好在从4月9日到4月26日是英国的复活节,再加上王子大婚全国放假一周,即使女儿入了学,也要在家玩三个星期。

We can only leave,Can only wait for.I know,The child fast in Britain have entrance is unlikely.Fortunately from April 9 to April 26 is the Easter,Plus the prince married a week holiday,Even if the daughter in the study,Also want to play at home for three weeks.

  最后,我还是耐住性子把医疗卡等复杂的手续办完,才送女儿上了学。我内心的热切希望也慢慢冷却。英国人在这方面的古板,令我非常气愤。

finally,I still restrain declares the complex formalities does,Just send daughter is in the study.My heart is eager that also slowly cooling.British people in the square,Make me very angry.

  同样的事情,放在美国就简单很多。

The same thing,In the United States is simple a lot.

  当年我们到达美国后,到附近的学校申请,只需要提供住址证明、女儿的出生证明和防疫证明即可。住址证明极其简单,租房合同(包括私人之间的租房合同)、银行账单或写有你名字的打印信件都可以。换言之,只要能证明你的确是住在这个地方,你的孩子就有权利上学。

When we arrived at the United States,To the nearby school application,Only need to provide proof of address/Her daughter's birth certificate and epidemic prevention can be proved.Address proof is very simple,Rental contract(Including between private rental contract)/Bank bills or write have your name printed letters can be.In other words,Just to prove that you are indeed living in this place,Your child will have the right to go to school.

  学校收到材料后,安排一名中文翻译打电话告知我们,孩子的防疫证明里少了一针,到指定地方打完针后即可入学。

The school received materials,Arrange a Chinese translation call told us,The child's epidemic prevention in less that a needle,To the appointed place after needle can be after admission.

  整个过程,我们第一天申请、第二天打针,第三天就入学了。至于入学手续,学校会替你向当地教育委员会申请。美国人的逻辑极其简单:只要孩子在美国土地上生活,就有权利接受教育。任何学校和老师,甚至都不得问及孩子是合法还是非法入境。

The whole process,We apply for the first day/The next day an injection,The third day the entrance.As for the admission procedure,The school will for you to apply for the local education committee.American logic is very simple:As long as the child is in the United States life on land,Will have the right to receive education.Any school and teachers,Not even asked if the child is legal or illegal immigration.

  一件孩子入学的小事,能折射出英美两国的文化区别,美国人灵活务实,英国人死守陈规。也许,这也正是美国后来超过英国成为世界最强国的原因之一。

A small child admission,Can reflect the difference between American and British culture,Americans agile pragmatic,The British defend to the stereotypes.maybe,This is the United States soon overtook the UK as one of the reasons of the world's most power.

  2009年12月初我们从美国回到中国,联系女儿以前在上海读的小学,申请重回学校。而老师给出的建议是:要么先在家呆两个月,等明年春节后开学再来读,要么在家呆半年,然后从下一年新生入学后,重新再读一个三年级。刚从美国回来的我,听到这个反馈半天说不出话来。

In early December, 2009 from the United States come back to China,Contact before daughter went to elementary school in Shanghai,Application to return to school.And the teacher gives advice is:Or to stay at home for two months,And after the Spring Festival next year school to read again,Either at home for half a year,Then from the next year after admission,To read a grade three.I just came back from the states,Hear the feedback half a day could not say words.



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