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2013搜狐高考论坛:《招办主任指导志愿填报》--亲稳网络舆情监控室(5)
2013-05-17

搜狐教育主持人: Sohu education host:刚才提到地域因素的考虑,我们搜狐教育频道曾经推出一项大型就业地域调查,有十万网友参与投票,数据显示近三成学生选择了北上广地区就业,而沿海省会城市同样吸引了三成毕业生,经济水平、就业机会是毕业生选择城市的首要因素,各位老师认为会不会成为在志愿填报时择校的主要因素?择校时是不是需要把自己今后的就业目标考虑进去? Just mentioned geographical factors to consider,We sohu education channel has launched a large regional employment survey,There are hundreds of netizens to vote,Data showed that nearly thirty percent of students chose label-conscious region of employment,And in coastal city, the provincial capital, also attracted thirty percent of graduates,The economic level/Employment opportunities is the primary factor of graduates choose city,Teachers think that will become a major factor in college choice?School choice does need to take their future employment goal into consideration?

  

韩经【北京科技大学招生就业处处长】: Korea via[Beijing science and technology university admissions, division director]:考虑是对的,上学的目的是什么?是学习工作,这个考虑是对的。

Considered to be the,What is the purpose of the school?Work is to learn,This account is right.


  

丁珊【长安大学招生处处长】: Ding Shan[Commissioner of chang 'an university admissions]:实际就业跟你所在哪里读书这个关系不是特别大。以长安大学为例,每年的招生计划大概是六千。我们的就业情况根据连续三四年的情况来看,统计结果是长安大学的就业87%就业的地域集中在省会城市、计划单列城市和东南沿海地区。就业的层次主要以央企和国企为主,我们虽然在西部行政区域属于西部,但是绝大多数学生就业在这些地区,有时候确实在哪里读书在哪里就业不完全是一致的。考生在这个问题上要注意,如果把这个看的太重可能也是失去一些机会。在这些地域同层次的学校录取分数相对来说比西部的要高一些,竞争更加激烈。对于分数不是特别高的学生可以考虑一下欠发达地区,比如西安交大、兰州大学,它的层次也是非常高,但是确实因为地域问题使它比同级的学校录取分数线低不少。

Where with you is to read the actual employment relations is not particularly big.In chang 'an university, for example,Annual enrollment plan is around six thousand.Our employment according to the conditions of three or four years in a row,Statistical results is changan university employment 87% employment areas concentrated in the capital city/Plan single row southeast coastal areas and cities.The level of the employment are mainly composed of state-owned enterprises and state-owned enterprises,Although we in the western administrative area belongs to the west,But the vast majority of students employment in these areas,Sometimes really where reading where the employment is not entirely consistent.Candidates need to be careful on this issue,If put too much weight on the may also lose some opportunities.In these areas at the same level school score higher than in the west of the relatively few,More competitive.To score is not particularly high students can consider a still owing the developed regions,Such as xi 'an jiaotong university/Lanzhou university,It will be very high level as well,But indeed because regional problems make it much lower than the school admits fractional line at the same level.

  

史贞军【北京交通大学招生就业副处长】: Shi Zhenjun[, deputy director of Beijing jiaotong university recruitment of students employment]:刚才说经济发展机会肯定学生不管在选择学校和选择就业时都会考虑,即使长安大学也有一些学生更倾向于就业的时候往东部走,必然跟国家的经济发展结构调整有关系。选择学校区域的时候选择一些历史、文化、信息沟通渠道等等其它方面,确实要综合考虑。

Just said economic development opportunity certainly students no matter will consider when choosing schools and choose jobs,Even changan university, some students tend to be jobs walked to the east,Must be related to development of national economy structure adjustment.When selecting a school area select some history/culture/Information communication channels, and so on other aspects,Do comprehensive consideration.

  

搜狐教育主持人: Sohu education host:前段时间北大的前校长许智宏批评大学排行榜误导学生,指出现在的排行榜追名利失道德,各位怎么看各类排行榜,或者学生如何合理运用大学排行榜?

Before paragraph time of Peking University xu zhihong criticism university rankings to mislead the students,Now list after fame and wealth lost moral are pointed out,How do you see all kinds of charts,How to reasonably use university rankings or student?

  

丁珊【长安大学招生处处长】: Ding Shan[Commissioner of chang 'an university admissions]:存在有它的合理性,我们社会还是需要有一个学校的排名,这是给社会公众和家长了解大学实力和特色的渠道,大学排行榜受到那么多的诟病,确实存在着很多的问题,比如评价指标量化的办学规模、经费用这些东西衡量一个大学的质量,这个还是欠妥,大学很多的质量教学质量、教育质量,很难用一个量化去衡量,还有大学之间的特色都不太一样,规模也不太一样,不一样的标准,又是合理。有些商业机构似乎有一些潜规则,使大学排行失去公信力,需要是需要,但是还是需要规范。

There is the rationality of it,We are still need to have a school social ranking,This is for the social public and parents know the strength and characteristic of university channels,University rankings by so much,There is a lot of problems,Such as evaluation index to quantify the scale of/Funds with the quality of these items for a university,This is not satisfactory,A lot of the quality of the teaching quality/Quality of education,It is difficult to use a quantitative measure,And college characteristics between different,Size is different, too,Not the same as standard,Is reasonable.Some businesses seem to have some unwritten rules,To make the university ranking lose credibility,Need is the need to,But still need to specification.

  

韩经【北京科技大学招生就业处处长】: Korea via[Beijing science and technology university admissions, division director]:过多关注大学排行不如关注专业排行,专业排行比较客观。

Too much focus on university ranking than focus on professional rankings,Professional ranking relatively objective.

  

史贞军【北京交通大学招生就业副处长】: Shi Zhenjun[, deputy director of Beijing jiaotong university recruitment of students employment]:确实有些家长愿意看,实际大家看的时候只把它作为几百个几十个参考中的一项,并不代表一个很大的比重,可以依据它参考,我们再去了解别的信息,然后再回过头来还想再看其它的,量上规模上的东西,在它那个指标上有的话,参考一下,还有其它方面,指标主要还是那几个。

Do some parents would like to see,Actual when you look at it as only one of hundreds of dozens of reference,Does not represent a large proportion,Will prepare according to it,Let us get to know other information again,And then come back to also want to see the other,Amount on the scale,So on that index,consult,There are other aspects,Mainly for the several.


  

赵京【计桥高考志愿研究院院长、志愿填报专家】: Zhao jing[The university entrance exam volunteer dean meter bridge/Volunteer experts is allowed]:各位老师都是对大学比较了解的,一个家长从来没怎么接触过大学不知道哪个大学更有名气,排行榜把这个事情说得更清楚一些,排行在一百名以前的是全国知名的,排行在四百名属于相对比前面的要差一些,这个会帮助家长快速知道一些大学。但是最后决策的时候,排行不能成为一个主要角色,前面筛选的时候可以比较快的先看一下这个学校大致的情况,最后决定学校的时候,不能说这个学校排名高我就去这个学校。应该看专业排名、国家重点实验室、独立研究室研究这些东西,觉得自己是否应该去这个学校。

Teachers are more understanding of university,A parent never don't know how to contact with university which university is more famous,List the things more clearly,Ranking is the nationally known before one hundred,Ranking of the four hundred belong to relatively less than before,This will help the parents to quickly know some universities.But the finally decision,Rankings can't become a major role,Filter in front of the time can be faster to take a look at this first school roughly,Finally decided to school,Can't say this ranked high school I went to this school.Should look professional rankings/State key laboratory/Independent laboratory study these things,Don't think whether he should go to the school.

  

搜狐教育主持人: Sohu education host:近日四川泸州医学院护理学院一名22岁大学生坠落身亡,是校区两千名学生当中唯一的男生,这也在校园中引发了不小的议论,高校性别比例失衡引发的问题越来越严重,我们几所学校的实际情况是怎么样的?

Recently sichuan luzhou medical college nursing a 22-year-old college student fall dead,Is the only boy campus among two thousand students,It also provoked considerable discussion on campus,University of gender imbalance problem is more and more serious,We have a few actual situation of the school is?

  

丁珊【长安大学招生处处长】: Ding Shan[Commissioner of chang 'an university admissions]:我们学校以工为主,理工结合,男生占的比例是非常大的。这跟我们的专业密切相关,有一些专业涉及到今后的职业确实对一个人的生理心理有一些特殊要求,有一些专业没有男生,比如道路桥梁水土专业建议女生慎报,全是男生。我们经管类的、人文类的、艺术类的还是女生比较多。从我们学校的情况来看,没有体现出性别的失调表现出来太多的问题,学校的专业班集体之间的联谊活动还是很多的。另外以男生为主的专业中女生是少数,女生都是宝贝,女生很幸福,被关心被照顾。在女生为主男生比较少的专业中男生也挺宝贝的,而且他们在这些专业中更能够激发担当的意识保护女生,我们学校没有太多这样的问题。刚才说的这个案例中我认为是他自己个体的问题,性格内向、不太善于交往、家庭有一些问题,我怀疑他是不是有抑郁症,有自己个人的心理问题而导致的。还有他的专业本身是行业以女性为主,是不是上了这个专业也有自卑的心理,都有可能。

Our school is given priority to with work,Institute of technology, combined with the,Accounted for the proportion of students is very large.This is closely related with our professional,There are some professional involved in the future career really to a person's physiological and psychological have some special requirements,There are some professional no boys,Such as road and bridge professional advice wisely girls to soil and water conservation,All the boys.We operate/The humanities classes/Or a girl is more of the arts.Judging from the situation of our school,Did not reflect the gender imbalance shown too many questions,School fellowship between the special course of collective activities or a lot.In addition to boys is specializing in girls is one of the few,Girls are all baby,The girl is very happy,Be care to be taken care of.Mainly in girls boys also pretty baby boys in less professional,And they stimulate more able to play in these professional consciousness to protect the girl,We don't have too many problems such as the school.Just said this case I think is his own individual question,introverted/Not too good at communication/There's something wrong with the family,I doubt if he has a depression,Have their own personal psychological problems.And his professional itself is trade is given priority to with women,Whether on this major also have psychological inferiority,Are likely to.

  

韩经【北京科技大学招生就业处处长】: Korea via[Beijing science and technology university admissions, division director]:我们基本男女比例3:1,还是以男生为主。

Our basic ratio 3:1,Is mostly about boys.

  

史贞军【北京交通大学招生就业副处长】: Shi Zhenjun[, deputy director of Beijing jiaotong university recruitment of students employment]:我们这几年男女生比例有一些变化,十几年前男生占70%甚至80%,12年入学第一次女生达到了41%,男生59%,这个可能和现在的高考题目偏重于基础相对适合女生有关系。实际学校的教学培养各个环节中没有感觉出大的明显的问题来,女生特别是工科专业的女生比较多。我们有土木类的专业,在高考录取的时候会去说但是没有明确写,我们在录取的时候除了调剂之外,学生报了这个专业还是尽量遵循学生的专业志愿,这部分学生的就业相对来讲肯定比男生的竞争力要稍微差一点,女生比例提高在这方面体现这个问题。

We have some changes in the proportion of boys to girls a few years,More than a decade ago boys accounted for 70% and 80%,12 years of school for the first time the girl reached 41%,59% of boys,This may and now the university entrance exam questions focus on foundation is relatively suitable for girls.Practical teaching each link of the school did not feel much obvious problems,Especially the engineering professional more than girls.We have a professional civil class,When the college entrance examination admission to say but there is no clear writing,We at the time of admission besides dispensing,Students to the professional or professional volunteer students as follow,This part of the students' employment relatively slightly almost certainly competitiveness than boys,Girl raise reflect this problem in this area.

  

搜狐教育主持人: Sohu education host:前段时间因卖猪肉而出名的北京大学陆步轩受到北大邀请为即将毕业的学弟学妹做了工作的分享在网络引起非常大的讨论,有人觉得名校毕业生不应该做这样的工作,几位老师是怎样看待这个事情,应该培养大学生怎样的人才观念?

The Peking University where is famous for selling pork Liu Buxuan invited by Peking University for the lower classwoman drove to do the work of graduation to share caused very big discussion in network,Some people think school graduates should not do such work,Several teachers is how to think of this thing,What kind of talent concept should cultivate university students?

  

赵京【计桥高考志愿研究院院长、志愿填报专家】: Zhao jing[The university entrance exam volunteer dean meter bridge/Volunteer experts is allowed]:各个大学培养人才其实都是一致的,希望培养一个人的能力,解决问题发现问题的能力,培养一定的专业知识和其它的团队精神、处理事情等等这方面其实都是一样的。一个人大学毕业之后想做什么事情甚至不做事情,我们都不应该去干涉他,他家庭条件比较好不想做事情,我们没有必要非要你一定得去每天努力工作。一个人决定这个对他发展更有利,他愿意做这件事,他愿意卖猪肉应该是社会宽容的事情,既不应该鄙视也不应该俯视,上大学的目的搞清楚了,你要说上大学就是混一个文凭,那无所谓,现在很多家庭条件很不错并不需要学生工作,读好学校拿好文凭这个事情跟他说也没有用处。各大学鼓励学生认真学习给社会创造财富做对社会有用的人,具体到每个人他们具体干什么,社会不要去管他们,我们也不会因为这些原因去给学生做不同的设计,相信各大学鼓励学生为社会发展做出贡献。人生规划实际上是以这个人想努力为基础,如果这个人不想努力不想做事这个人生规划没有意义,愿意怎么着就怎么着。

Universities cultivate talents are consistent,Hope to train a person's ability,The ability to solve problems found problems,Cultivate a certain professional knowledge and team spirit/Deal with things, and so on this area actually is the same.A person after graduating from university want to do what thing does not even do things,We should not to interfere with him,His family condition is good don't want to do things,We don't need to have to you must go to work every day.A person decide the more beneficial to his development,He is willing to do it,He is willing to sell pork should be social tolerance,Neither should be despised and should not be overlook,The purpose of college figure it out,You want to say is to mix a college diploma,It doesn't matter,Many family condition good students do not need to work now,Read good schools take good diploma told him this matter also useless.Universities encourage students to learn to do for society to create wealth useful person to society,Specific to each of them specific to do,Don't go to pipe them in society,For these reasons we don't do different design to students,Believe that the university students are encouraged to contribute to social development.Life planning is based on the person trying to actually,If the person doesn't want to don't want to do things the hard life planning does not make sense,Willing to do it.

  

丁珊【长安大学招生处处长】: Ding Shan[Commissioner of chang 'an university admissions]:陆步轩卖猪肉这个事情没有什么可大惊小怪,一个人在世界上生存要解决两个问题,一个是生存一个是发展。首先要解决生存,当他的发展暂时受限制的时候,生存也是一个责任感的表现,他对自己负责对社会负责,首先解决生存。陆步轩他也是在无奈的情况下做了这样的选择,他做这样的选择没有在家里啃老,没有在家里等着社会救济,本身是社会责任感的一种表现一种体现。第二,学校培养的人才不一定都能够从事他所学的这个专业,从世界范围来看各个专业真正学这个专业的和从事这个专业的不是完全重合的。有这样一个统计,大致40%左右的人真正从事自己所学的专业,但是在大学接受教育本身还是非常重要的,大学教育的专业学习、大学的文化氛围给他提供的学养,他今后走向社会无论做什么都能体现出来,这跟教育带给他的优势比如说卖猪肉,北大出来的卖猪肉可能卖得更好,比如陆步轩和他的师弟陈生两个人合作,这种合作一定是在食品行业特别肉禽养殖加工行业一定是做得非常好的,做什么并不重要。一个人要有积极的生活态度,不怕困难,勇于克服困难,有这样积极的生活态度,在任何一个领域中有脚踏实地的精神,无论做什么都能做得很好,行行出状元。

This thing has nothing to fuss Liu Buxuan sell pork,A person living in the world to solve two problems,One is the survival development.To solve the survival in the first place,When he was temporarily restricted the development of,Survival is also a sense of responsibility,He is responsible for the socially responsible to himself,First of all solve the survival.Liu Buxuan he did this is under the condition of the helpless choice,He made such a choice not chew old at home,No at home waiting for the social relief,Itself is a kind of reflect a kind of social responsibility.In the second,School to cultivate the talent is not necessarily to be able to engage in his knowledge of this major,From world each major really learn this professional and engaged in the professional is not entirely coincidence.There is a statistic,Roughly 40% of people truly engaged in their major,But accept the education at the university itself is very important,University education professional study/Knowledge of the culture atmosphere of university has offered him,Moves towards the society in the future no matter what can reflect,With the education gives him the advantage such as selling pork,Peking University sell pork may sell better,Such as teacher younger brother Chen Sheng Liu Buxuan and his two people cooperation,It must be in the food industry special meat and poultry farming and processing industry must be doing very good,It doesn't matter what to do.A person should have a positive attitude towards life,Does not fear the difficulty,Have the courage to overcome difficulties,Have such a positive attitude towards life,In any one area have a down-to-earth spirit,No matter what all can do very well,Line out of the top.

  另外,我们社会之所以对这样的事情提出非议和讨论,根本在于我们社会存在行业之间区域之间的差异,社会的保障、薪职等等不太平衡。如果我们的行业之间、地域之间的差异不是这么大,特别是有很好的社会保障,我真是觉得北大的学生出来卖猪肉没有什么大惊小怪的。在国外也是,一个名校出来的学生开出租汽车大家认为是很正常的事情。

In addition,Our society has put forward criticism and discussion in such things,Rooted in our society exists between regional differences between industries,Social security/Don't pay duty and so on balance.If our business between/Regional differences is not so big,Especially have a good social security,I just think of Peking University students come out sell pork no surprise.Also in foreign countries,A school of students open the taxi we think is very normal things.

  

赵京【计桥高考志愿研究院院长、志愿填报专家】: Zhao jing[The university entrance exam volunteer dean meter bridge/Volunteer experts is allowed]:我还有一个同学现在在养虾也是做养殖业,很正常。

Now I have a classmate in aquaculture shrimp is also do,It is normal.

  

韩经【北京科技大学招生就业处处长】: Korea via[Beijing science and technology university admissions, division director]:如果这个学校大量的人都在杀猪,那可能有问题,个案的事。

If the school a lot of people in to kill a pig,That may have a problem,Case of the matter.

 

 史贞军【北京交通大学招生就业副处长】: Shi Zhenjun[, deputy director of Beijing jiaotong university recruitment of students employment]:一个学校的毕业生到各个领域各个行业去实现自己的理想,也是这个学校培养的成功,只集中在一点像北大是综合性大学,更应该面向国家发展的各行各业需要的,现在食品安全危机问题这么严重,实际是大家不重视才出现这些问题,应该有更多更好更高尖的人才去做。目前,有些人意识上有问题感觉行业有高有低,实际行行出状元这个词历史上这么说,按理说现在也这么说。即使高考状元,他在高考这张试卷上是第一名,但并不一定在某个行业非要是第一名。

A school graduates to all areas of various industries to achieve their ideal,Is this school training success,Concentrated in only a little like Peking University is a comprehensive university,Should be geared to the needs of all walks of life in a country's development needs,Now the food safety crisis is so serious,Actually we pay less attention to these problems,There should be more higher sharp talent to do better.At present,Some people have a problem feel business consciousness have high low,Actual line out of the champions in the history of the word to say so,Arguably also say so now.Even the gaokao champions,He in the university entrance exam is the first name on this piece of paper,But does not necessarily must in an industry is the first name.

  

搜狐教育主持人: Sohu education host:访谈最后请各位老师送出对今年高考学子的祝福。

Interview the last please the teacher send blessing to the students in the college entrance examination this year.

  

丁珊【长安大学招生处处长】: Ding Shan[Commissioner of chang 'an university admissions]:还有不到一个月的时间高考,这段时间再提高成绩不太可能,但是有一个好心态正常发挥就是成功。在这里祝愿各位考生有一个好心态,取得好成绩,如愿以偿梦想成真。

The university entrance exam in less than a month of time,This period of time to improve their performance is unlikely,But have a good mentality to normal play is successful.Here wish you all students have a good state of mind,Get good grades,Achieve your dream come true.

  

韩经【北京科技大学招生就业处处长】: Korea via[Beijing science and technology university admissions, division director]:高考是成功之路上的一条道而已,进入大学也可能是成功的一条道,但是现在的学生面临高考还是希望考生能够正常发挥自己的水平,走进理想的大学,欢迎考生选报北京科技大学,在九月份的开学迎新会上我欢迎大家。

The university entrance exam is just one way on the road to success,Entering university may also be a way of success,But now students are facing the university entrance exam or hope examinee can play its normal level,Into the ideal university,Welcome the students at Beijing university of science and technology,In September I welcome to welcome the beginning of the meeting.

  

史贞军【北京交通大学招生就业副处长】: Shi Zhenjun[, deputy director of Beijing jiaotong university recruitment of students employment]:同意几位对学生的寄语,从高考角度讲,更多的只是一个开始,前面的基础教育高考其实是开始迈向他自己更加独立更加个人的人生目标的起点。放松心态,考出好成绩或者考出自己满意的成绩就可以了,不一定非要好到多高,非要考到状元,通过填报志愿实现自己的目标,欢迎对交大感兴趣的学生填报交大。

Agreed to a few remarks on students,From the perspective of the college entrance examination,More is just a beginning,In front of the foundation education the university entrance exam is actually started towards his own more independent more personal goal in life.Calm down,Got the good grades or test yourself with satisfactory results,It doesn't have to be good to much high,Have to take an examination of to the top,By applying to achieve their goals,Welcome interested in jiaotong university students fill in jiaotong university.

  

赵京【计桥高考志愿研究院院长、志愿填报专家】: Zhao jing[The university entrance exam volunteer dean meter bridge/Volunteer experts is allowed]:我对高考成功的定义非常简单,学生进入自己所选择的学校和专业实际就是一个成功,现在离高考一个月的时间,学生学习是终身的事情,高中学习大学也要学习,高考不过是对于我们的检测。通过我们剩下一个月的努力进入适合我们的专业和我们选择的大学,你这一步努力就算达到成功,在大学中继续努力成为社会有用的人才,祝大家高考能够考得更好。

I am very simple definition of a successful college entrance examination,Students enter their choice of schools and professional practice was a success,From the university entrance exam one month now,Student learning is a lifelong thing,High school university, also want to learn,The university entrance exam is just for our testing.Through our efforts to rest a month into the suitable for our professional and we choose university,You this step even if hard to achieve success,Continue to work hard in the university become a socially useful talents,I wish you all the college entrance examination can test better.

  

搜狐教育主持人: Sohu education host:感谢四位老师的祝福,本期会客厅就到这里结束了,感谢大家的收看。

Thanks to the blessings of the four teachers,This lounge is here is over,Thank you for watching.



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