依然是衬衫比别人至少多一个口袋，依然是赤脚穿着皮鞋，肩上斜挎一个棕绿色小书包，脸上不时泛起“招牌式”的微笑……93岁高龄的数学大师吴文俊还是那般让人感到亲切。

The shirt is still better than others at least one more bag，Is still barefoot wearing leather shoes，Shoulder oblique ku a palm green small bag，Face on from time to time“Signboard type”smile……93 - year - old mathematics master WuWenJun or to be let a person feel kind。

　　近年来深居简出的吴文俊，近日出现在天津大学应用数学中心成立仪式及名誉主任、主任授聘仪式暨天津大学与汉柏科技有限公司建立“应用数学联合实验室”的签约仪式上。颇费一番周折，记者采访到这位国家科技最高奖得主、当今数学界的泰斗。

In recent years the WuWenJun lives in seclusion，Recently appeared in tianjin university of applied mathematics and the honorary director of the establishment ceremony of center、Director ShouPin ceremony and tianjin university and HanBai technology co., LTD. Establish“Applied mathematics joint laboratory”Signing ceremony。A fee a setbacks，Reporters to the national science and technology the highest prize winner、Today's known as masters of。

　　在40多分钟的采访中，老先生腰板挺直，仅有两三次略微倚靠了一下沙发靠背。对于这位快乐的数学家来说，年龄似乎只不过是个数字。

In more than 40 minutes of interviews，The old man back straight，Only two or three times in the back of a chair slightly the sofa。For the happy for mathematicians，Age seems to is just a number。

应用数学：“应该大有可为” Applied mathematics：“Should have a brilliant future”

　　“我很赞同这种产学研结合的方式。企业进来，当然可以起很大的促进作用。许多发展离不开经济方面的力量。生产方面的需求，还是学术的最大动力。西方也是这样。”吴文俊说。

“I quite agree with this kind of university-industry cooperation way。Enterprise in，Of course can play a large role。Many development cannot leave the financial strength。Production needs，Or academic motivation。The west is also such。”WuWenJun said。

　　这次天津大学和汉柏科技签署的协议主要内容是，汉柏科技将每年为“应用数学联合实验室”提供不少于200万元、5年内不少于1000万元的研究经费，从双方现有先进成熟的技术中，探索符合双方发展方向的科研成果，通过成果的共享或转让，实现社会生产力的转化。

The tianjin university science and technology and HanBai agreement signed main content is，HanBai technology will for a year“Applied mathematics joint laboratory”Provide no less than 2 million yuan、Five years of not less than 10 million yuan of research funding，From the existing advanced mature technology，To explore the development of both sides to the direction of scientific research，Through the results of sharing or transfer，To realize the transformation of social productive forces。

　　吴文俊对刘徽应用数学中心寄予厚望。他认为“应该会对应用数学的发展起到很大促进作用，应该大有可为”。该中心由已故数学家陈省身倡导创办，得名于我国魏晋期间伟大数学家刘徽。提出这个命名的，正是陈省身的弟子吴文俊。

WuWenJun to LiuHui applied mathematics center have great expectations。He thinks“Should be to the development of applied mathematics has played a significant role in promoting，Should have a brilliant future”。The center by the late mathematician shiing-shen chern advocate founded，In our country during the jin gets its name from the great mathematicians LiuHui。Put forward the named，It is shiing-shen chern disciples WuWenJun。

数学教育：“应有助于解决实际问题” Mathematics education：“Should contribute to the solution of practical problems”

　　天津大学很多老师还记得刘徽应用数学中心刚成立时，吴文俊过来讲为什么以刘徽命名。他曾“公开悬赏”，谁要是发现在丝绸之路上，阿拉伯数学是中国传过去的证据，奖励50万元。这是11年前的事情。

Tianjin university many teachers still remember LiuHui applied mathematics center just founded，WuWenJun come speak why to LiuHui named。He had“Public offer a reward”，If anyone found on the silk road，The Arab mathematics is the China of the past evidence，Reward 500000 yuan。This is eleven years ago things。

　　吴文俊对我国古代数学投入了巨大精力，这或许源于他的理念：数学应该主要着眼于解决实际问题。而我国古代数学恰恰具有这一传统。

WuWenJun to our country ancient times mathematics into a great energy，Perhaps this from his idea：Mathematics should be the main focus on solving practical problems。And Chinese ancient mathematics just have this tradition。

　　“数学要有助于解决实际问题，这应该是主要目的之一，不是什么抽象理论。”吴文俊说，中国的数学是从实践经验中来，“国外欧几里德的数学理论，之乎者也”，在专业研究中，“我们不能跟着这个方向走”。

“Mathematics to contribute to the solution of practical problems，This should be one of the main purpose，What is not abstract theory。”WuWenJun said，China's mathematics from practical experience to，“Foreign Euclidean mathematical theory，Who are the”，In the professional study，“We can't follow the direction”。

　　但他并不反对在主要进行基础教育的中学阶段设置欧几里德几何课程。“通过直观，学习到解决问题的方法，这是很有价值的，”吴文俊说，自己也曾从中受益。

But he is not against in the main carries on the foundation education of middle school stage Settings Euclidean geometry course。“Through the visual，To learn the methods to solve the problems，It is of great value，”WuWenJun said，I have benefited from。

　　谈到课程设置，吴文俊显得很谨慎：“这个问题就复杂了。教育是非常重要的，搞得不适当是要闯大祸的，贻误子孙。需要经过充分讨论来解决，不能凭一个人的主观愿望来下结论。”

When it comes to the curriculum，WuWenJun appears very cautious：“This problem is complicated。Education is very important，Make not be is to cross the catastrophe，Bungle children。After a full discussion need to solve，Not by a person's subjective desire to jump to conclusions。”

　　但与之前的谨慎形成对比，当谈及目前中小学数学教育中的一个现象时，吴文俊的态度十分强硬：“奥数？这是害人的！对数学起不到好的作用，是害数学、害人的、要不得的。”他一边说，左手用力往前连连挥动，仿佛面前真有一个“奥数”实体存在，要把它用力推开。

But with caution before form contrast，When it comes to at present middle and primary school mathematics education in a phenomenon，WuWenJun attitude is very tough：“aoshu？This is the Greek！Not a good role of mathematics，Is against mathematical、Greek、reductive。”As he said，The left hand force on a swing，As if there is a before“aoshu”Physical presence，To put it thrust aside。

　　“奥数要不得。哪有数学的奥林匹克？没这事！”吴文俊用十分肯定的语气强调他的观点。

“Aoshu wrong。Which have maths Olympic？Didn't it！”WuWenJun in a very positive tone emphasizes his point of view。

数学研究：“不要总跟在别人后面跑” Mathematics research：“Don't always follow behind others run”

　　“60岁是最成熟的时候，应该越来越厉害，怎么能退出历史舞台呢？不应该这样子。60岁应该是工作开始的时候，经验比较丰富，学识比较丰富，应该是大有可为的时候。”吴文俊说。

“60 years old is the most mature time，Should be more and more severe，How can you quit the stage of history？Should not be like this。60 years old should be at the beginning of the work，More experience，Knowledge is rich，Should be run time。”WuWenJun said。

　　吴文俊少年成名，在留学期间就做出了世界级的学术成果。他的主要成就表现在拓扑学和数学机械化方面。而后者，是他57岁才开始涉足并最后开创了一个全新的研究领域。

WuWenJun young famous，During my study in made a world-class academic achievements。His main achievements performance in topology and mathematical mechanization aspects。While the latter，Is he 57 began to set foot and finally opened a new field of study。

　　在回答保持学术生命长青的秘诀时，吴文俊笑着说：“我也说不清是什么，自然而然过来了，并没有费劲。反正就是一点，不要跟在别人后面跑，应该有自己的创新。”

In answer to keep academic life indoors when the secret，WuWenJun said with a smile：“I don't know what is it，Naturally come over，And had no difficulty。It is a little，Don't run behind others，Should have their own innovation。”

　　他对我国年轻一代的数学家充满了信心：“我想不用我来说什么希望。他们会提出自己新的主张，来推动国家经济的发展。不用我担心，他们自然而然就会往这个方向走。”

He to our young generation of mathematicians full of confidence：“I can't think what hope with me。They will put forward his new claims，To promote the development of the national economy。I don't worry about，Naturally they would be sent to the direction。”

　　至于自己的学术研究，他说：“至少在三国的时候，我们国家就已经发生微分的运算了，这是很难想象的。我希望在有生之年，把这个问题弄清楚。”

As for their own academic research，He said：“At least in The Three Kingdoms，Our country had happened the differential operation，It is hard to imagine。I hope in life，This problem of getting clear。”