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人民日报:中国海监五职位“零合格”因门槛高--亲稳舆论引导监测室
2012-11-07
海监五职位“零合格”缘于门槛高 HaiJian five position"Zero qualified"Due to high threshold
稍低等级的9个船员职位有113人报考 Lower levels of nine crew position 113 people enter oneself for an examination
日本富士新闻网10月30日发表文章称,2013年中国公务员考试报名中,中国海监船员报名者为零,“大部分中国人都选择那些轻松而又挣钱的工作”,“围绕钓鱼岛问题,中国出现了大规模的反日游行,很多人都打着爱国主义的旗号,但是为什么中国海监船船员职位却这么没有人气?”报道引述富坂聪的分析说,像这种工作有危险性,在目前中国独生子女居多的现状下,很多家长有很大的抵触感。
Japan Fuji news network October 30, published the article says,In 2013, the Chinese civil service examination in the application,China HaiJian crew applicants is zero,"Most Chinese people are choose those easy and earn money work","Around the diaoyu island question,China has a large anti-japanese demonstrations,A lot of people are under the banner of patriotism,But why China HaiJian vessel crew position but not so popular?"Rich quoted sakaguchi chung analysis said,Like this kind of work can be dangerous,In China only child is in the majority of the situation,Many parents have a lot of conflict feeling.
事实是这样吗?人民日报“求证”栏目记者进行了采访了解。
The fact is that so?People's Daily"verification"Column reporter interviewed understand.
海监船员职位共14个,9个有报考合格人数,另5个无人合格 HaiJian crew position a total of 14,And a number of qualified to enter oneself for an examination,The other five no one qualified
据考试咨询人士吴文斌介绍,今年公务员考试中,共14个用人司局招录海监“执法船船员”职位,根据中公教育在10月24日18时的统计,5个职位无审核通过人数,而剩下的职位全部有考生报名,竞争最激烈的职位报名人数达41人,总报名人数达113个。
According to the test WuWenBin consultants is introduced,Civil service exam this year,A total of 14 employing department bureau people ZhaoLu HaiJian"Law enforcement vessel crew"position,According to the public education in on October 24, 18 of statistics,Five position without audit through the number,And the rest of the position all have the examinee registration,The most competitive position register a number of 41 people,Total enrollment is up to 113.
吴文斌说,从职位简介来看,这14个职位从事的是执法船三管轮或三副以上的工作,全部属于管理职位。5个无人报考职位分别为船长、大副、轮机长、大管轮等职位,算是整个组织中级别比较高的职位。
WuWenBin said,From the job description to see,The 14 position is engaged in law enforcement ship three engineer or third officer above,All belong to management positions.5 no one to enter oneself for an examination position for the captain respectively/Chief officer/Chief engineer/Second engineer position, etc,The organization is in high level position.
温州港引航中心主任张建军介绍,轮船的工作部门分为两大类:甲板部与轮机部。甲板部的领导职位从高到低依次为船长、大副、二副、三副;轮机部的领导职位依次为轮机长、大管轮、二管轮、三管轮。船长为船上最高领导职位。船舶分为甲类、乙类和丙类等,其中,甲类是最高级别。
Wenzhou port pilot, director of the center for ZhangJianJun is introduced,The ship's department is divided into two categories:Deck and engine.Deck leadership position from high to low in turn for the captain/Chief officer/Second mate/Third officer;Engine department leadership position in turn for chief engineer/Second engineer/Second engineer/Three engineer.The captain for the ship the tallest leadership position.Ship is divided into class a/Class b and class c, etc,the,A class is the highest level.
部分职位专业性较强,招录门槛较高,符合条件者可能超过报考年龄或已有较好岗位 Part of the professional strong position,ZhaoLu threshold higher,Qualified may be over to enter oneself for an examination age or for better jobs
专家表示,公务员招录过程中,出现一些职位冷热不均的情形,主要是由于招录职位要求的能力和素质等条件决定的。比如,岗位对专业技术能力要求高,招录的门槛相对较高,可能出现少有人问津甚至无人符合条件的情况。
Experts say,Civil servants ZhaoLu process,Some position in uneven and situation,Is mainly due to ZhaoLu position requires the ability and quality conditions of the decision.For example,Post to professional technical ability request high,The threshold of the ZhaoLu relatively high,Someone may appear less of the market and even unmanned meet the conditions of the situation.
吴文斌说,船长、轮机长职位对专业技术能力要求严格,招录门槛相对较高:
WuWenBin said,The captain/Chief engineer position for the professional technical ability request strictly,ZhaoLu threshold is relative taller:
就专业而言,这些职位只招录两个专业轮机管理及船舶驾驶,专业性强,只有少部分考生能够达到专业要求;
Is professional in,These positions ZhaoLu only two professional turbine management and ship driving,Professional and strong,Only a few of the examinee to be able to achieve professional requirements;
就基层工作年限看,全部要求2年以上基层工作经验,这也将国考的大族群应届毕业生排除在外;
Just look at the grass-roots level fixed number of year,All the requirements above 2 years working experience at the grass-roots level,It will also take an examination of countries large ethnic graduates ruled out;
要求相应的岗位适任证书。这些职位全部要求持相应证书方可报考,而获得这些证书需要在相应工作岗位工作满一定年限才可参加考试,考试通过才能获得。无人报考的5个职位分别要求获得甲类船舶船长、轮机长、大副、大管轮等适任证书,从工作年限来看,能够获得甲类船舶(3000吨以上)的高级职位是比较难的,这也是无人报考的主要原因。
Request corresponding post certificate of competency.These positions for all the corresponding certificate can enter oneself for an examination,And get the certificate need in the corresponding work work over a certain fixed number of year to take an exam,Passing the examination to obtain.No one to enter oneself for an examination of the five position for class a ship captain respectively/Chief engineer/Chief officer/Second engineer certificate of competency, etc,From work to life,To obtain class a ship(More than 3000 tons)A senior position is difficult,This is also the main cause of no one to enter oneself for an examination.
专家认为,取得船长、轮机长等证书的人,很可能超过报考年龄或已有较好岗位。
Experts say,Get the captain/Chief engineer certificate of people,Probably more than enter oneself for an examination age or for better jobs.
张建军说,相关专业本科毕业就可以分别得到二副或二管轮的适任资格,但是有资格不等于取得适任证书。想取得证书,必须参加适任证书的考试,此类考试只有担任三副或三管轮满18个月才可以去考。而考试的难度也比较大,包括航海英语、船舶管理、船舶电气与自动化等都是考试内容。至于大副或大管轮适任证书,是必须取得二副或二管轮的适任证书之后才可以考取;船长或轮机长适任证书,则必须取得大副或大管轮适任证书才可以考取。
ZhangJianJun said,Relevant professional undergraduate course graduation respectively can get second mate or two tube rounds of eligibility qualification,But there are not equal to obtain the qualification certificate of competency.Want to get certificate,To attend certificate of competency examination,This kind of test only as a third officer or three tube wheel full 18 months to can go to take an examination of.And the test difficulty is big,Including maritime English/Ship management/Ship electrical and automation is exam content.As for the chief officer or second engineer certificate of competency,Is must obtain second mate or two tube rounds of certificate of competency before can pass an entrance examination;The captain or chief engineer certificate of competency,It must be made chief officer or second engineer certificate of competency can pass an entrance examination.
不少大学生对海监职位有兴趣,因不符合条件而无法报考 Many college students are interested in HaiJian position,Because they do not meet the conditions to enter oneself for an examination
因为报考执法船船员要符合特定专业并具有相关证书,一些原本有意报考的人最终放弃了。温州科技职业学院农业与生物技术系大三学生郑志恩接受记者采访时说,他之前报名2013年国家公务员考试,主要从学历要求、招考人数和个人兴趣等几个方面进行职位选择。他重点关注了海监执法船船员岗位,但遗憾的是,虽然大专学历允许报考,但都要求船舶类相关专业,而自己的专业是绿色食品生产与检测,并不符合条件。最终,郑志恩选报了新疆的地质监测职位。
Because enter oneself for an examination, law enforcement vessel crew members want to accord with certain professional and related certificate,Some had to enter oneself for an examination finally gave up.Wenzhou vocational college of science and technology of agriculture and biotechnology system junior student ZhengZhiEn told reporters,Before him the 2013 national civil service examination,Mainly from the degree required/Admit by examination number and personal interest and so on several aspects of position selection.His focus on the HaiJian law enforcement vessel crew station,But it is a pity that,Although college degree allowed to enter oneself for an examination,But all require the kind of relevant professional,And their professional is green food production and testing,Does not accord with a condition.finally,ZhengZhiEn choose called the xinjiang geological monitoring position.
清华大学新闻与传播学院硕士生贾娜对记者说:“海监对我的很多同学来说是很有吸引力的,但真正报考的人确实会比较少,因为我们很难符合相关的要求,专业也不对口。对于我们来说,在适合自己的岗位上发挥作用,就是真正的爱国。”
Tsinghua university school of journalism and communication, JiaNa master told reporters:"To many of my classmates HaiJian it is very attractive,But the real enter oneself for an examination people do less,Because it is difficult for us to comply with the requirements,Major also wrong.For us,In a right position to play a role,Is true patriotic."
吴文斌认为,综合整体招录条件看,这5个职位无人报考的原因并非是日本媒体所称的“海监岗位太危险”,而更多是因为职位本身要求的条件比较严格而造成的。
WuWenBin think,Comprehensive whole ZhaoLu seeing condition,The five position no one to enter oneself for an examination reason is not as referred to in the Japanese media"HaiJian post was too dangerous",But more because position itself the required conditions is caused by the strict.
有专家建议,应加大公务员分类考试制度改革力度,对社会上紧缺同时机关也需要的一些专业人才,抓紧建立健全适合他们的招考办法,比如通过设置专门渠道,采取有限竞争,降低开考比例,或到这类人才聚集的行业和领域进行动员等多种方式予以解决,“如果确属工作需要,哪怕只有一个人报名也可以开考。”
Some experts suggest,Should strengthen civil servants classification examination system reform,For the society at the same time shortage of organs also need some professional talents,We want to establish a perfect fit their way to admit by examination,Such as established by the specialized channels,Take limited competition,Reduce KaiKao proportion,Or to this kind of talents gathered all industries and fields for mobilization and so on many kinds of ways to solve,"If it is DE facto work need,Even if only one application can also KaiKao."
(实习生苏艺参与采写)
(Interns in SuYi concludes)
相关阅读:"钓鱼岛前线东海公务员0报考"是个伪命题 readings:"Diaoyu islands front east China sea civil servants 0 to enter oneself for an examination"Is a false proposition
一、东海分局30个职位招考,最高竞争比例364:1 a/The east China sea branch 30 position admit by examination,The highest proportion of competition 364:1
2013年国考,国家海洋局东海分局共有30个职位招考,计划招录37人。截至2012年10月24日16:00,共有632人通过资格审查。其中中国海监东海维权执法支队是竞争最激烈职位,竞争比例达到364:1。因此,"钓鱼岛牵线东海公务员0报考"本身与事实不符,其背后想表达的意思及发此新闻的目的,只有当事人心里最清楚了。
In 2013 countries take an examination of,The east China sea state oceanic administration branch 30 position admit by examination,Plan ZhaoLu 37 people.By the end of 2012 October 24 16:00,A total of 632 people through the qualification examination.With China HaiJian east China sea rights protection law enforcement team is the most competitive position,The competition scale up to 364:1.therefore,"Diaoyu islands as the east China sea civil servants 0 to enter oneself for an examination"Itself with the facts,Behind the want to express meaning and send this news purpose,Only in the most clearly.
二、5个0报考职位报考条件要求非常特殊 two/5 0 to enter oneself for an examination position to enter oneself for an examination conditions require very special
通过对上表中所列5个无人报考职位的条件分析,最低要求是甲类船舶大管轮证书,最高是甲类船舶船长适任证书。为了便于读者清楚大管轮、大副、船长的证书等级概念,笔者找到了《船舶专业技术资格证书与适任证书对应关系表》。
Through the listed in the above five no one to enter oneself for an examination the analysis of the condition of position,Minimum requirement is the class a ship first engineer certificate,The highest is class a ship captain certificate of competency.In order to facilitate the reader first engineer/Chief officer/The captain's certificate level concept,The author found[Ship specialized technical qualification certificate and certificate of competency corresponding relation table].
三、公务船(海监、渔政)等为执法船,而非作战军舰 three/Official ship(HaiJian/Fishery administration and)As law enforcement ship,And non combat ships
百度百科中关于海监船是这么解释的“海监主要职能是依照有关法律和规定,对国家管辖海域(包括海岸带)实施巡航监视,查处侵犯海洋权益、违法使用海域、损害海洋环境与资源、破坏海上设施、扰乱海上秩序等违法违规行为,并根据委托或授权进行其他海上执法工作。”阅后可知,其核心任务是执法,而非作战。
Baidu baike on HaiJian ship is so explain"The main function is to HaiJian in accordance with relevant laws and regulations,The sea areas under the jurisdiction of countries(Including coastal zone)Implementation cruising monitoring,Infringing maritime rights and interests/Illegal use of sea/Damage to the Marine environment and resources/Damage Marine facilities/Disturb the order of sea illegal activities such as,And according to entrust or authorized other Marine law enforcement work."After reading it,Its core mission is to law enforcement,And non combat.
根据国际海洋法公约,两国公务执法船在海上相遇,只能互相喊话警告对方。阻碍航行、水枪互射以及驱逐,甚至碰撞都是违反国际海洋法公约的行为。更不要说双方开枪造成人员伤亡,这样的行为等同于两国宣战。
According to the international convention on the law of the sea,The two countries the law enforcement official ship at sea meet,Only mutual propaganda warning each other.Hinder navigation/Nozzle mutual shot and expelled,Even collision is a clear violation of international law of the sea treaty behavior.Not to mention the fire caused the personnel casualty,Such behavior is equal to declare war between the two countries.所以害怕危险不敢报考此职位的说法也是不符合常识的推断。 So afraid of danger can't enter oneself for an examination the position that is not conform to the common sense of inference.
四、若与日船发生冲突,反而是捍卫祖国、建功立业之时机 four/If the first ship conflict,It is to defend the motherland/Building a solid career of the time
我们常说“形势大于人”,说的就是一个人的发展,机遇非常重要。历史上有太多满腹经纶才华横溢的人一生碌碌无为,究其原因无外乎“怀才不遇”——即没有机遇施展自己的才华。当年钓鱼岛形势紧张,日本想通过所谓“国有化”逐步将对我钓鱼岛的“实际占有”转变为“既成事实”。我国政府寸步不让,派出海监船赴钓鱼岛海域执法、宣誓主权,同时取证日本非法罪证。
We often say"Situation than people",That is a person's development,Opportunity is very important.History is too much wisdom in the talented person's life unaccomplished,Investigate its reason outside"talent"- that is, no opportunity display their talent.The diaoyu islands situation nervous,The Japanese think through the so-called"nationalization"Gradually I will the diaoyu islands"Actual possession"into"Fait accompli".Our government does not yield an inch,Send HaiJian ship to the diaoyu islands waters law enforcement/Swear sovereignty,At the same time obtain evidence Japanese illegal evidence of his guilt.
在此情形下,如果年轻人有机会奔赴钓鱼岛海域,捍卫我国领土主权的话,将是一生最为难得的直接为祖国效力的机遇,也将是一生最宝贵的经历和财富。且如果执政船之间发生不可避免的冲突,坚决捍卫祖国主权和领土完整的重任最初是落在海监船全体船员们,从这个角度去考虑,广大青年如果符合条件,反而更应该积极报考国家海洋局东海分局的执法岗位,而不是退缩在后,只心怀功名利禄。
In this case,If young people the chance to go to diaoyu islands waters,Defend our territory sovereignty words,Is life the most rare direct effect for our country the opportunity,Will also is the life is the most precious experience and wealth.And if the ruling ship happened between inevitable conflict,Resolutely defend the motherland's sovereignty and territorial integrity is the burden of the first fall in HaiJian ship all the crew,From this point of view to consider,The vast Numbers of young if accords with a condition,Instead more should be actively enter oneself for an examination of the east China sea state oceanic administration office of law enforcement position,Not in the back,Only have high official positions and riches.
最后要说明的是,且不论日本此时是否正在招聘海监船员,也不论日本海监招聘数据如何得来的,网传文章连中我国公务员报考数据尚且没弄清楚,即便日本公务员报考数据千真万确,又能说明什么结论呢?所以请广大网友擦亮眼睛,不要被谣言所惑,做好自己的本职工作。其实,每个人都做好自己应该的事,也是一种爱国。【更多】
The last is to explain,And no matter whether Japan now are looking for HaiJian crew,No matter how the data HaiJian Japan for them,The article and even in our country civil servants enter oneself for an examination data do not fully understood,Even if Japan civil servants enter oneself for an examination data as sure as fate,And what that conclusion?So please the net friend to polish eyes,Don't be confused by the rumor,Completes own labor of duty.In fact,Everyone should do his thing,Is also a kind of patriotic.[more]
与之相反,今年最热职位: Contrary to,This year is the hottest position:
竞争最激烈的公务员“国考”职位是国家统计局重庆调查总队合川调查队科员,计划招1人,有8709人报考,竞争比例为8709:1,该比例突破了历史纪录。“八千挑一”的职位还有国家统计局重庆调查总队南川调查队科员,计划招1人,8665人报考。【详细】
The most competitive of the civil servants"Countries take an examination of"Position is the national bureau of statistics NBS survey office in chongqing on clerk team,Plan recruit 1 person,There are 8709 people enter oneself for an examination,Competitive ratio for 8709:1,This proportion broke the record."Eight thousand one"The position of the national bureau of statistics and NBS survey office in chongqing the nanchuan clerk team,Plan recruit 1 person,8665 people enter oneself for an examination.[detailed]
2013年国考报名最热前十部门 In 2013 countries take an examination of the first 10 hottest department相关评论: Relevant comments:
国家公考海监队"零报考"无关"爱国"
National public examination HaiJian team"Zero enter oneself for an examination"Has nothing to do"patriotic"
那5个职位为何会"零报考"呢?首先,报名系统有审核流程,不通过资格审核的报名者,是无法被最终列为合格报考者的,该职位最终对外显示"0人报考",不代表真的就无人报名。其次,虽然同为"执法船船员",但这5个职位明显比其他同类职位的要求高出一截,比如要求报考者"持甲类船舶船长适任证书"或"持甲类船舶大副适任证书"等,这几乎是一般应届毕业生所无法具备的条件。此外,能够具备此资质者大多已经触及国考"35岁"上限,或者已经拥有了比较丰厚的薪酬,海监职位难以对其产生吸引力。
The five position why"Zero enter oneself for an examination"??First of all,Registration system has audit process,Don't passed the qualification examination of applicants,Cannot be finally listed the qualified applicants,This position finally foreign display"0 people enter oneself for an examination",Do not represent really will not sign up.secondly,Although as"Law enforcement vessel crew",But this five position obvious than other similar position higher than the requirements of a cut,For instance the requirement the candidate"The class a ship captain certificate of competency"or"The class a ship mate's certificate of competency", etc,It is almost generally fresh graduates is unable to have the condition.In addition,Can have the aptitude test had hit most countries"35 years old"cap,Or has a comparative generous salary,HaiJian position is difficult to produce the attraction.
总之,海监职位"零报考"根本无关爱国,只是双向选择机制下的一种正常现象。国考虽是独木桥,但年年都会有不少职位"零报考",没必要对此过度解读。
In a word,HaiJian position"Zero enter oneself for an examination"Don not patriotic,Just two-way choice mechanism of a normal phenomenon.Countries take an examination of is the wooden bridge,But every year there are many position"Zero enter oneself for an examination",There's no point in excessive reading. 【详细】 [detailed]
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