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幼儿园教唱“伦敦大桥倒塌了” 网友晒雷人童谣--亲稳网络舆情监控室
2012-11-25

  南京妈妈网晒女儿唱的“奇怪”西方童谣,引来众网友争晒“雷人”童谣 扬子晚报记者走访发现,现在新童谣减少,书店卖得少,幼儿园也教得少 Nanjing mother and daughter sun sing"strange"Western nursery rhymes,Draw the net friend for sun"shocking"Nursery rhymes yangzi evening news reporter found that visit,Now new nursery rhymes to reduce,Bookstore sell less,Kindergarten also teaches less

  近日,一名南京妈妈在西祠发帖介绍,上幼儿园的女儿回来给她唱了一个很“奇怪”的歌。歌词就是不停地重复“伦敦大桥倒塌了”,“我当时就石化了,这什么歌啊”,这位妈妈还觉得可能是女儿听错了,打算哪天再问问老师。有网友称西方的很多童谣都有悲剧色彩、忧患意识。不过在中国,“一二三四五,上山打老虎”、“摇啊摇,摇到外婆桥”等温馨经典的童谣伴随了一代又一代人的成长。

recently,A mother in nanjing XiCi post is introduced,In kindergarten's daughter came back to she sang a very"strange"song.The lyrics is constantly repeat"London bridge collapsed","At the time I petrochemical,What's this song!",The mother still feel may be daughter to listen to the wrong,Going to which day to ask the teacher.Have net friend say western many nursery rhymes are tragic color/Suffering consciousness.But in China,"The 12345,Went up to the mountain to shoot tigers"/"Rock me,Wave to zhang"And warm classic nursery rhymes with the generation after generation growth.

  现在的孩子们都在学哪些童谣?真的像一些网友所说国内童谣又少又单一吗?扬子晚报记者近日调查了多家幼儿园以及大型图书店。

Now the children are learning what nursery rhymes?Really like some net friend said domestic nursery rhyme also small and single?Yangzi evening news reporter recently investigated several kindergarten, and large book shop.

  

女儿老唱“伦敦大桥倒塌了” Daughter sing old"London bridge collapsed"

  

妈妈发帖引来网友吐槽“雷人”童谣 Mother post draws users spit tank"shocking"Nursery rhymes

  11月16日,西祠上名为“会抽烟的小狗”的网友满含惊讶地发帖《女儿幼儿园刚教的新儿歌,雷死我了》。帖子中说,当天女儿睡觉前主动要唱一首幼儿园新教的歌,“伦敦大桥倒塌了,倒塌了,倒塌了。伦敦大桥倒塌了,倒塌了,倒塌了,亲爱的朋友”。这名网友毫不掩饰地说自己当时就石化了,“这什么歌啊?”但得到的答复是,老师就是这么教的。

November 16,XiCi called on"Can smoking puppy"The net friend opens surprised to post[Daughter kindergarten just teach new children's songs,Ray me to death].Posts said,The day before sleeping daughter initiative to sing a kindergarten protestant song,"London bridge collapsed,collapsed,collapsed.London bridge collapsed,collapsed,collapsed,My dear friends".A net friend openly said he was petrochemical,"What's this song!?"But get answer is,The teacher is so teaching.

  看到这个帖子,不少网友向楼主解释道,这是西方一首很著名的童谣,很多幼儿园都会教,但还是忍不住觉得好笑。帖子也引起网上爸爸妈妈们分享自家孩子学的童谣,其中不乏奇特作品。一个叫“老鼠瓜瓜”的网友称自己无法接受女儿唱的《青蛙找老婆》,“池塘边有只青蛙它在找老婆,它看见一只乌龟它就这么说:呱呱,呱呱,请你嫁给我!被拒绝后,青蛙又分别请小鸭和猫咪做老婆。”这位网友感慨,差点被其中的桥段震晕。网友“小草莓06”称自己儿子一大早唱的是“娘子,啊哈”。看到网友们的讨论,还有一位80后追忆起了自己小时候出口成章的那些童谣。

See this post,Not a few net friend to the building Lord explained,This is the west a very famous nursery rhymes,A lot of kindergarten will teach,But I still can't help but feel funny.Post also cause online parents share their children learn nursery rhymes,There is no lack of among them strange works.A call"Mice melon melon"The net friend said she could not accept daughter sing[The frog looking for a wife],"The pond side frog it looking for a wife,He saw a turtle it said so:tutter,tutter,Would you marry me!Was rejected after,The frog) and please the duckling and cats to be a wife."The net friend regrets,Almost is one of the bridge shock halo.Net friend"Small strawberry 06"Says his son sing is early in the morning"maiden,aha".See the discussion of net friends,And a 80 retrospection on the export of childhood from the nursery rhymes.

  

觉得西方“忧患童谣”太沉重 Think western"Suffering nursery rhymes"Too heavy

  

家长更喜欢可爱、欢乐的童谣 Parents prefer lovely/Happy nursery rhymes

  记者联系上发帖人陈女士,她的女儿今年5岁上中班,有一天,很少汇报幼儿园学习情况的女儿睡前主动要给妈妈唱白天刚学的歌儿。但她先是问妈妈,伦敦有没有大桥,这让陈女士很纳闷,“她怎么想到这问题的,她怎么知道伦敦这个城市的?”女儿开唱后,她吓了一跳,“我还以为我听错了,但她老是唱‘伦敦大桥倒塌了’,听着就不太舒服”,觉得这样的童谣有点沉重。她以为是孩子唱错了,打算再跟老师确认一下,但老师肯定地回答,《伦敦桥》这首歌就是这样唱的。

The reporter contact post man ms. Chen,Her daughter 5 years old this year on middle shift,One day,Rarely report kindergarten study daughter bedtime active to give mom sang BaiTianGang learn songs.But first she asked her mother,London have bridge,This let ms. Chen wonder,"How she thought that the problem,She know how London this city?"Daughter after life,She was shocked at the,"I thought I heard wrong,But she's always sing‘London bridge collapsed’,Listen to just not feeling well",Think of this kind of nursery rhyme is a bit heavy.She thought it was a children to sing wrong,Going to confirm with the teacher,But the teacher must answer,[London bridge]This song is so sing.

  因为是几百年前流行的,与现在生活的各方面也不符,女儿唱这首童谣,也不理解,体会不到。相比较而言,陈女士觉得像《采苹果》这样的中国童谣更适合,一方面孩子熟悉,还能教他们生活中的一些行为。如果引进外国童谣的话,她也认为最好是可爱、欢乐、朗朗上口的那种。不过她也表示,因为《伦敦桥》非常著名,也有必要向孩子们介绍一些经典的西方童谣。

Because it is the popular hundreds of years ago,And now all aspects of life also discrepancy,Daughter sing nursery rhyme,Also don't understand,Experience not to.compared,Ms. Chen feel like[apples]This kind of Chinese nursery rhymes more suitable for,On the one hand the child familiar with,Can also teach them some behavior in life.If the introduction of foreign nursery rhyme word,She also believes the best is lovely/joy/Catchy that.But she also said,because[London bridge]Very famous,Also it is necessary to introduce to the children some classical western nursery rhymes.

  南京那些老童谣,你还记得吗?

Nanjing those old nursery rhymes,Do you still remember??

  城门城门鸡蛋糕,三个绿蛋糕,骑花马,带把刀,城门底下走一遭。

The gates gates chickens cake,Three green cake,Ride piebald,Band knife,Under gates go one was.

  城门城门鸡蛋糕,三十绿豆糕。骑马马,坐轿轿,走进城门砍一刀。

The gates gates chickens cake,Thirty green bean cake.Riding horse,In litters its,Cut a sword into the gate.

  城门城门几丈高?三十六丈高。骑白马,带把刀,走进城门滑一跤。

The gates gates several cubits high?Thirty six cubits high.Ride a white horse,Band knife,Into the gate and slip.

  城门城门几丈高?三十六丈高?骑花马,带把刀,走进城门跌一跤。问你吃桔子还是吃香蕉?

The gates gates several cubits high?Thirty six cubits high?Ride piebald,Band knife,Into the gate fell over.Ask you to eat an orange or to eat bananas?

  城门城门几丈高,三十六丈高。骑大马,带把刀,从你家门前抄一抄。问你吃桔子吃香焦!

The gates gates several cubits high,Thirty six cubits high.Ride Malaysia,Band knife,From your door copy a copy.Ask you to eat oranges in coke!

  月亮月亮妈妈,里面一个爸爸,爸爸出来买菜,遇到一个老太,老太出来洗脚,遇到一只喜鹊,喜鹊出来飞飞,遇到一只乌龟,乌龟出来爬爬,遇到一个娃娃,娃娃要吃油炒饭,看谁是个好娃娃。

The moon moon mother,Inside a dad,Dad come out to buy food,Meet a woman,Granny wash feet out,Meet a magpie,Magpie out fly,Met a turtle,The tortoise PaPa out,Meet a doll,Baby to eat oil Fried rice,See who's a good baby.

  

记者走访 Reporters visited

  

幼儿园里童谣教得少,书店里纯正童谣也成稀缺 In the kindergarten rhyme teach less,The bookstore is pure nursery rhyme also becomes scarce

  李女士家女儿同样也上幼儿园中班,她说幼儿园教的儿歌倒是很多,女儿回家经常唱,但童谣就不怎么多了。“老师说一个学期也就教两首吧”。游府西街幼儿园的李园长也告诉记者,童谣只是作为孩子语言课的一部分,其他还有儿歌、故事、表演等不同的形式,“一年下来,儿歌也只教几首,童谣就更少了”。

Ms. Li's daughter also in kindergarten classes,She said the kindergarten teaching children's songs is a lot,Daughter home often sing,But nursery rhyme is not how much."The teacher said one semester also taught two first it".YouFuXiJie kindergarten LiYuan long also told reporters,Nursery rhyme just as part of your child's language class,Other children's songs and/The story/The performance and so on different forms,"A year off,Children's songs also taught only a few first,Rhyme is even less".

  随后记者走访了南京两家大型的图书店,在新华书店,在众多的诗词、故事、儿歌书当中,有一本大红色封面装帧的童谣书《最爱中华老童谣》,分为“游戏”“节日”“幽默”三篇,共44首,每首都配上传统插画。此外还有《摇啊摇,摇到外婆桥》、以及《中文童谣》,其中内容多有重合。另外还有一本50首的《英文童谣》。

Then the reporter interviewed nanjing two large book shop,The xinhua bookstore,In numerous poetry/The story/Nursery rhyme book of,Have a big red is designed to cover the nursery rhyme book[Love the old nursery rhymes],Divided into"The game""festival""humor"Three articles,44 first,Each capital with traditional illustration.In addition[Rock me,Wave to zhang]/and[Chinese nursery rhymes],The contents therein much coincidence.In addition to a 50 of the first[English nursery rhymes].

  在大众书局中,记者在儿童文学区,并没找到任何一本以“童谣”命名的书籍,幼儿读物区,只有《中文儿歌》和《英文儿歌》,其中包含一些童谣。工作人员潘小姐告诉记者,儿歌和故事书要比童谣的书多多了。

In public in the press,Reporter in the children's literature area,And didn't find any a to"Nursery rhymes"Naming books,Children reading area,only[Chinese children's songs]and[English children's songs],Contains some nursery rhymes.Staff miss told reporters,Children's songs and stories of books to rhyme book than a lot.

  

中西方童谣对比 Comparing Chinese and western nursery rhymes

  

西方童谣不乏灰色,但引进童谣多轻松富有童趣 There is no lack of grey western nursery rhymes,But how easy and interesting introduction of nursery rhymes

  在陈女士发帖后,就有网友很快跟帖解释,欧洲很多儿歌很黑暗甚至恐怖,并举例《鹅妈妈》童谣。网友“玻璃心”还详细地解释起《伦敦桥》的沉重背景,“一首充满悲剧色彩的民谣唱说着伦敦桥的沧桑历史,伦敦桥是泰晤士河上资格最老的桥,难逃苍老的命运,逐渐显露了颓败的迹象,便流传了这样一首充满悲剧色彩的民谣。”

In ms. Chen after Posting,Have net friend soon to explain the post,Europe a lot of nursery rhyme is very dark and even terrorist,And an example[Mother goose]Nursery rhymes.Net friend"Glass heart"The detailed explanation[London bridge]Heavy background,"A full of tragic color folk singing said London bridge of the vicissitudes of life history,London bridge is over the Thames river, the oldest bridge,Not escape the fate of the old,Gradually expose the signs of decay,He spread such a full of tragic color folk."

  记者联系到这位网友王老师,她是南京军区某幼儿园老师,从事幼儿语言研究与一线教育已经有20多年了。“我们耳熟能详的童谣,一般是美好的、温馨的、幽默的。但西方的很多童谣初听会觉得充满了暴力和诡异,其实仔细琢磨一下,会发现也不乏哲理和历史背景。”她再次提到了《鹅妈妈》童谣。记者发现几乎每一则都有“死亡、杀、血”等字样,王老师解释这个童谣的血腥、暴力和它们产生的时代背景有关。

Reporter connected to the net friend wang,She is a kindergarten teacher nanjing military region,Engaged in infant language research and a line education has more than 20 years."We of familiar nursery rhymes,The general is a good thing/warm/humor.But many of the western rhyme initial hearing feel full of violence and strange,Actually careful ponder,Will find that there are philosophy and history background."She again mentioned[Mother goose]Nursery rhymes.Reporter found that almost every one has"death/kill/blood"Such words,Teacher wang explain this nursery rhymes bloody/Violence and they produce relevant background.

  记者在书店看到的为数不多的英文童谣除了收录《伦敦桥》,还有《两只老虎》、《小星星》等,但这些也都以轻松富有童趣为主。记者随后又在南京实验幼儿园马园长的协助下做了一项调查,对象为全园9个班级。每个班仍以中文童谣为主,引进的外国童谣,最多为4首,最少的为0首,有的上了3年的大班只教过1首。马园长也介绍,在选择时,还是以轻松、押韵、有童趣为主。王老师也认同此观点,“孩子是幼小的,需要保护的,不敢描述太多的阴暗面,怕吓着孩子。而西方社会则会大大方方地和孩子谈到出生、死亡。”

Reporters saw at the bookshop few English nursery rhymes besides included[London bridge],and[Two tigers]/[starlet], etc,But these also are easy and interesting is given priority to.Reporter then again in nanjing experimental kindergarten horse with the help of the principal made a survey,Object for the pathway in 9 class.Each class is still mainly in Chinese nursery rhymes,The introduction of foreign nursery rhymes,For a maximum of 4 first,Least 0 first,Some on the 3 years of executive only taught 1 first.Moreover the horse is also introduced,When the choice,Or in the relaxed/rhyme/Have tong qu is given priority to.Teacher wang also agree with this view,"The child was young,Need protection,Can't describe the dark side of too much,Afraid frighten children.And the western society will be big enough and children about birth/death."

  

资深幼儿语言老师 Senior infant language teacher

  

童谣断代可能和经济利益有关,新作难再口口相传成经典 Nursery rhymes cohort may and economic benefits related,New again hard mouth into a classic

  在采访中,家长以及一些老师并不太能分得清儿歌与童谣的区别。王老师解释,“童谣一般来说是民间流传的,年代久远,并且会有不同的版本,大多数找不到作者,以口头语和方言为主”;而儿歌属于文学作品,结构比较规范,大部分使用书面语言。王老师说,童谣在幼儿各科教育中都是不可缺少的好帮手,提高语言能力,帮助记忆,“如小班宝宝学习扣扣子:小老鼠,钻洞子,小朋友初学画人脸时,老师会边画边念:一口大锅,两个把子,锅里煮着水,三个饺子。童谣念完了,一个可爱的大头娃娃也画了出来”。

In the interview,Parents and some teachers do not too can tell the difference between children's songs and nursery rhymes.Teacher wang explain,"Rhyme: generally it is folk history,S long,And there will be different versions,Most can't find the author,Mainly to the colloquial English and dialect";And children's songs belongs to literature,Structure is more normative,Most of the use of written language.Teacher wang said,In the early childhood education under the rhyme is indispensable good helper,The improvement of language ability,Help memory,"Such as small class baby learning buttons:The little mouse,Drill named,At the beginning of the children to draw when face,The teacher will edge picture edge read:A cauldron,When two,Pot to boil water,Three dumplings.Nursery rhymes finish reading,A lovely big head doll also drew out".

  在对不同的幼儿园的采访中,老师都表示平时教学中使用到的童谣,多是之前流传很久的,或者从网上找到的。王老师也认可,新产生的童谣的确有所减少,“童谣的断代可能和经济利益有关”。很多幼儿教师也会自己创编,基本都是随机的,没有做过特别的记录,“一般是按原作结构仿编,比如《幸福的家》;有的加入自己的经验,继续编出下一小节内容,比如《春天的颜色》。”只是流传渠道不通畅,属于自生自灭的状态。传统比较经典的如“唐僧骑马咚那个咚,后面跟着个孙悟空”,“拉大锯扯大锯,姥姥家门前看大戏”,这些都是口口相传流传下来的,而不是现在的课堂、书本、影像等途径。 记者 陈婧 文/摄

In the different kindergarten interview,Teachers said in the teaching at ordinary times the use of the nursery rhymes,Before is a long history,Or find from the Internet.Teacher wang also recognized,From the new rhyme is reduced,"The nursery rhymes date may be relevant and economic benefits".Many preschool teachers will also creating,Basic are random,No special record,"According to the original structure is usually imitation of knitting,For example[A happy home];Some add their own experience,Continue to make up the next section content,For example[The colours of spring]."Just spread channel not unobstructed,Belong to the state of the course.Traditional more classic such as"Tang's monk ride dong the dong,Followed by a sun wukong","Widening saw pull big saw,Grandma's house door see spectacular",These are the mouth come down,Rather than the classroom now/books/Way such as image. Reporter ChenJing text/taken


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