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博士逃离科研教中学遭质疑 称没兴趣了厌恶科研--亲稳网络舆情监控室
2012-12-02


  新京报讯 “昨夜无眠,为了一个学生。”11月13日,中国科学院博士生导师程代展陷入困惑,他在清华的学生博士萧杨(化名)突然放弃留校继续做科研的机会,与北京一所重点中学签约做数学老师。程代展在博客上写下3000多字的长信,表达惋惜与困惑。

The Beijing news - "Sleepless last night,In order to a student."November 13,The Chinese academy of sciences doctoral tutor path generation exhibition in a quandary,He in tsinghua students XiaoYang Dr(alias)Suddenly give up at continue to do scientific research opportunities,And Beijing a key middle school signed a contract to do the math teacher.Path generation exhibition in the blog write more than 3000 words long letter,Express regret and confused.

  “大材小用”、“太过现实的社会环境让人才流失”……这封信引起网友热议。

"DaCaiXiaoYong"/"Too realistic social environment let the brain drain"……This letter cause net friend of hot debate.

  18日,萧杨在一个社交网站上贴出一封长信回复老师,“我已经厌恶科研了。”

18,XiaoYang in a social networking websites put out a long letter reply to the teacher,"I already hates the scientific research."

  导师 tutor

  他是我最有天赋的学生 He is my most talented students

  “他的选择让我很惊讶,我彻夜失眠也没想明白。他是我遇到过的最有天赋的学生。”昨日,程代展盯着办公桌上放着的他与萧杨合著的英文书籍,眉头紧皱。

"His choice let me surprised,I had insomnia also didn't want to know.He is I met the most talented students."yesterday,Path generation exhibition stared at on the desk he and XiaoYang coauthor of English books,frowned.

  程代展称,萧杨曾在系统控制领域的国际顶级专业期刊(IEEE TAC)上,以第一作者的身份发表数篇长论文。“中国系统控制领域的博导没有几人在这本期刊上发过文章。”

Path generation exhibition says,XiaoYang worked in system control areas of international top professional journal(IEEE TAC)on,As the first author, published several articles on the identity of the long paper."China in the field of system control heyong, few people in this journal articles before hair."

  “想当然地认为他会从事高端的科研”,程代展说,矛盾出现在半年前,萧杨突然告诉他,毕业后想去银行或者到中学当教师,并已经考过会计师。当时,程代展以为这只是“年轻人一时头脑发热。”

"Take it for granted that he will be engaged in high-end scientific research",Path generation exhibition said,Contradiction appear in six months ago,XiaoYang suddenly told him,After the graduation want to go to the bank or to high schools as a teacher,And had taken the exam accountant.At that time,Path generation exhibition thought this was"A young mind fever."

  但11月初,萧杨突然告知导师,他已经被北京某中学录用,即将签约。

But early November,XiaoYang suddenly told the teacher,He has been the Beijing some middle school employment,Signing imminent.

  网友 Net friend

  钱学森之问PK自由选择 The question of qian xuesen PK free choice

  “你这样做,中国,甚至世界可能会失去一个优秀的科学家。”那天晚上,程代展彻夜难眠,在博客上发表了一封公开信《今夜无眠》。

"You do this,China,Even the world may lose a good scientist."That night,Path generation exhibition trouble sleeping,In the blog published an open letter[Sleepless night].

  随后,这封信被科学网转载,激起网友热议。

then,The letter was scientific net reprint,Stir up net friend of hot debate.

  “为什么我们的学校总是培养不出杰出的科研人才?”钱学森之问再次成为关注的焦点。不过,也有一部分公众认为萧杨有自由选择的权利,“中学老师的贡献不比高校科研人员低。”

"Why our school always cultivate a outstanding research talents?"Qian xuesen's asked once again become the focus of attention.but,Also have part of the public think XiaoYang have the freedom to choose right,"High school teacher than the contribution of scientific research personnel low."

  学生 students

  唯一原因就是没兴趣 The only reason is not interested in it

  对于导师的不理解和网友的议论,日前,萧杨也在网上贴出长信,称“其实很简单,唯一的原因就是没兴趣了。没兴趣还算个比较中性的词的话,我其实可以说我已经厌恶科研了。”“做科研太累,当我决定退出科研的时候,心里是久违的无比的轻松。”

For teacher don't understand and net friend's discussion,a,On the Internet XiaoYang also posted long letter,says"Actually very simple,The only reason is not interested in it.No interest also calculate a neutral word words,Actually I can say I have hate the scientific research.""Research too tired,When I decided to quit the scientific research,The heart is a long-lost immensely relaxed."

  “我肯定不是科研界需要的人才,对科研没有兴趣的人不可能做出真正有意义的成果,我希望自己是教育界需要的人才。”萧杨表示,对去中学当老师充满期待,他很喜欢教会别人知识的那种成就感。

"I'm sure not research world need a talent,In scientific research is not interested in people may not make really meaningful results,I hope I'm education needs talents."XiaoYang said,To go to school when the teacher full of expectation,He likes to teach others knowledge of that kind of a sense of accomplishment.

  对话 dialogue

  导师 tutor

  博士教中学是人才分配的失衡 Teaching high school is dr talent distribution imbalance

  国家的投入几乎白费 State investment almost in vain

  新京报:为什么极力反对萧杨放弃科研?

The Beijing news:Why fought against XiaoYang give up scientific research?

  程代展:他是我从事科研30多年来见过最有天赋的学生,是科研界很少见的好苗子。他在清华读了四年本科,数学功底打得很扎实,头脑很灵活,他善于发现问题的实质,并提出解决方案,和他讨论数学是一种享受。他也非常勤奋。已经有三所国外的大学邀请他去读博士后,他的科研前途很光明,就这么放弃了,太可惜了。

Path generation exhibition:He is my engaged in scientific research in more than 30 years have seen the most talented students,It is scientific research world rare good young plant.He read in tsinghua university for four years undergraduate course,Mathematical skills played very solid,Mind is very flexible,He is good at discovering that the essence of the problem,And put forward the solutions,And he discussed mathematics is one kind enjoys.He is also very hard.Has had three foreign university invited him to read the postdoctoral,His research future is very bright,So give up,What a pity!.

  新京报:你问过萧杨对自己研究的领域感兴趣吗?

The Beijing news:You asked XiaoYang on the research interest in the area?

  程代展:这点我需要反思,我从没有问过。我一直认为有兴趣才能做得好,能在国际顶级杂志上发表文章是一件很让人高兴的事情。我完全没想到他对自己的研究成果不感兴趣,没有体会到成就感。这点到现在仍使我困惑。

Path generation exhibition:This I need to reconsider,I never asked.I've always thought are interested in can do well,Can be in top international journal article is a very pleasant things.I don't think he is not interested in research,Not to experience a sense of accomplishment.This until now still made me confused.

  新京报:有人认为做中学老师的贡献并不比做科研的贡献低,你怎么看?

The Beijing news:Some people think that the contribution of middle school teachers do not compared to scientific research contribution low,What do you think of?

  程代展:我决不怀疑中学教师的重要性,我的数学兴趣也是被几位中学教师培养起来的。但是我坚持认为博士当中学教师是一种浪费,特别是像萧杨这样有天赋的理工科博士。他在博士阶段的积累几乎用不到中学教学中去,国家的投入、导师的心血、个人的努力,几乎白费。难道让他去和中学生讲微分流形、鞅不等式等知识?

Path generation exhibition:I have no doubt that the importance of middle school teachers,My interest in mathematics is also be several middle school teacher training up.But I insisted that doctor when high school teacher is a kind of waste,Especially like XiaoYang such talented Dr In science and engineering.In his doctor stage accumulation almost in less than middle school teaching,The investment of national/Teacher soul/Personal efforts,Almost in vain.Don't let him go to and middle school students speak differential manifold/Knowledge of martingale inequality?

  让博士们,特别是像萧杨这样优秀人才去教中学,是教育制度的失败,社会人才分配的失衡。

Let the doctors,Especially like XiaoYang such talents to teach high school,Education is the failure of the system,Social talent distribution imbalance.

  博士 doctor

  我只是被教育成听话的好孩子 I just be education into obedient boy

  前日,记者联系到尚在美国访问留学的萧杨,他表示,已将自己的全部观点写在信中。

The day before yesterday,Contact reporters to visit to the United States is XiaoYang study abroad,He said,Have their own views all written in the letter.

  新京报:老师对你的选择很失望,你怎么认为?

The Beijing news:The teacher to your choice is very disappointed,What do you think?

  萧杨:我深知程老师对我寄予厚望,我说出来他肯定非常失望的,我甚至一直在想就这样坚持搞科研搞下去,但真正到了该抉择的时候,我还是选择了自私地按自己的意愿。

XiaoYang:I know that process the teacher have high hopes for me,I said that he must be very disappointed,I even have been want like this research to get down,But the real to the choice of the time,I chose selfishly according to his own will.

  退出科研界是因为很累,也没觉得自己是很有能力的人。(此前一直坚持科研)不是程老师强迫的,只是因为我从小被教育成“听话的好孩子”,只要别人给了我任务并且应该是我做的任务,不管我喜不喜欢,都会尽力去完成,不只是科研问题,甚至是帮实验室干杂活,都是完成的既快又好。这样的结果就是导致了程老师以为我喜欢做科研。

Exit research boundary because very tired,Also didn't think he was a very able person.(Had been insist on scientific research)Not process the teacher forced,Just because I grew up be education into"Obedient boy",As long as the others gave me the task and should be I do task,No matter whether I like it or not,Will try our best to complete,Not only the research problem,Even help laboratory odd-job man,Are all completed is fast and good.The result is led to process the teacher thought I like to do scientific research.

  新京报:家人对你的选择是否支持?

The Beijing news:Family members to your choice of whether or not to support?

  萧杨:11月11日,我回姥姥家和家人开了个会。并不是他们劝我赶紧去挣钱,而是我想问问他们对我选择中学这样一个地位不高,挣钱也不多还挺累的职业有没有意见。最后大家一致认为,我真的厌恶科研的话,坚持干一辈子科研一定不会幸福的,而他们并不在意我的名利地位什么的,中学老师也挺好。

XiaoYang:November 11,,I back to grandma's house and family held a meeting.And they advised me not to go to earn money,But I want to ask them to I choose middle school such a position is not high,Money much still pretty tired career have opinions.Finally everyone agreed,I really dislike research words,Soldier a lifetime scientific research must not happy,And they don't care about my fame and wealth status of what,Middle school teachers also quite good.

  新京报:不少人认为博士去当中学教师屈才了?

The Beijing news:Many people think that doctor to when high school teacher's wasted in the?

  萧杨:我觉得我有足够能力应对中学数学的知识。这与我觉得我完全没能力做有价值的科研工作形成了鲜明的对比。我也很喜欢教会别人知识的那种成就感。我做过家教,我觉得当几个小时的家教比搞几个小时的科研舒服多了。

XiaoYang:I think I have enough ability to middle school mathematics knowledge.This and I think I completely didn't the ability to do valuable scientific research work to form bright contrast.I also like to teach others knowledge of that kind of a sense of accomplishment.I worked as a tutor,I think when several hours of family education than make a few hours of research much more comfortable.

  今年寒假我还帮一个微积分挂科的大一孩子补了两天课,当她告诉我她补考得了90多分的时候,那成就感啊,杠杠的。

This winter vacation I also helped a calculus is hanged division of freshman the child USES two zakat,When she told me that she got 90 points when the make-up exam,The sense of achievement!,The underlined.

  此外,做教师比较稳定,虽然收入不高。我也真的是没时间找其他工作,找工作的黄金时间因为我在美国访问留学错过了。

In addition,Do teachers more stable,Although income is not high.I really don't have time to find other work,Looking for a job golden time because I missed the visit to the United States to study abroad.

  声音 voice

  我不了解详情,不评论具体的人和事。 I don't know the details,Don't comment on concrete people and things.

  中国社会对智力的追求一直比较低,以前科研被认为是比较时髦的职业,大家认为科研能带来财富、地位、名誉,对科研很热衷,一旦他们发现实际情况并非如此,就纷纷离去。此外,中国社会还存在一种小富即安的可能性,缺少更高的追求。

Chinese society for intellectual pursuits have been relatively low,Before the scientific research is considered to be fashionable career,Everybody thinks that scientific research can bring wealth/status/reputation,For scientific research is very keen,Once they found the actual condition is not such,Go have.In addition,Chinese society there is a lesser possibility,The lack of higher pursuit.

  学生不想继续从事科研,那就让他走好了,真正喜欢科研的人会留下来做,没有什么好遗憾的。

Students don't want to continue to be engaged in scientific research,Let him go well,Really like scientific research will stay do,Nothing good regrets.

  北京大学生命科学学院院长饶毅 Beijing university, dean of the college of life science RaoYi

  程代展是老一代的知识分子,他更重视为国家培养人才,强调贡献精神,萧杨是新一代青年人,更强调个人的价值和兴趣,这应该是时代的进步。每一个个体能够按照自己的意愿生活,而不是为了集体压抑自己的兴趣,每一个个体好了,社会才会更加和谐。而且萧杨表示对科研没有兴趣,程代展看到的是萧杨的天赋,但天赋不等同于兴趣,只有兴趣作为原始推动力才能在科研方面走得更远。北京大学生命科学学院教师郝雪梅

Path generation exhibition is the old intellectuals,He pay more attention to cultivating talents for the country,Emphasize contribution spirit,XiaoYang is a new generation of young people,More emphasis on individual value and interest,This should be the progress of The Times.Each individual can go according to oneself apiration life,Not for collective to suppress their interest,Each individual well,Society will be more harmonious.And XiaoYang expressed not interested in scientific research,Path generation exhibition see is XiaoYang talent,But the gift is not synonymous with interest,Only interest as the original driving force in scientific research can go further.Beijing university college of life science teachers HaoXueMei

  既然想的那么清楚,不是盲目的,那就只有尊重他的选择了。放弃科研也许跟老师的教育方式有问题,逼得太紧或者压力太大。学生去当中学老师,是想换个环境放松自己,也许有一天,他还会发觉学术界的好,回到学术界。

Now that want to so clear,Not blind,That is only respect his choice.Give up scientific research with the teacher's education may be a way to have a problem,Make it too tightly or pressure is too great.Students to when high school teacher,Is to change the environment to relax myself,Maybe one day,He will also find a good academic circles,Return to academic.

  北京理工大学文学院教授,著名教育和文化学者 杨东平 Beijing university of science and technology college of liberal arts professor,Famous education and culture YangDongPing scholars

  这位博士生如果去中学任教,也许他将来对社会的贡献要比发几篇SCI文章大得多得多!也许程老师的课题组损失了一个优秀的博士、一个未来优秀的研究员;但他将来也许会为国家培养出更多的优秀博士或研究员。网友 赵明

The doctoral student if go to middle school teaching,Maybe he will contribute to the society than send some article SCI articles much bigger!Maybe miss cheng group lost a good doctor/A good future researcher;But he may be in the future for the country cultivate more and more excellent doctor or researcher.Net friend et

  我们现在处在一个全球学术界大浮躁大跃进的年代,这种浮躁的背后,其实是科研人员待遇的普遍低下。待遇低了,那么人就只好玩各种短平快的招数来改善自己的生存状态,无论是离开学术界去银行,还是留在学术界发大量垃圾论文拿奖金,都是如此。科学网网友 王晓明

We are now in a global academia big fickleness great leap forward of the s,The blundering behind,It is scientific research personnel treatment generally low.Treatment low,So they had to play all kinds of short term rapid way to improve their survival condition,Whether to leave academia went to the bank,Still stay in academia hair a lot of waste paper and bonus,Are so.Science WangXiaoMing net friends

  本版采写/新京报记者 萧辉 石明磊

This collection &composition/Beijing news reporter XiaoHui ShiMingLei

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  >>困境:博士争做道班工 台青年学历愈高愈难就业 >>dilemma:According to dr DaoBanGong table youth the higher degree in the difficult employment

  这位年轻的博士因为学历高,就算他愿意,恐怕也很难在民营企业得到基层的工作。如果这是实情,那么年轻人在现今的台湾社会,反而学历愈高愈难找到工作。

The young doctor because of high degree,Even if he is willing to,I'm afraid very hard also in private enterprises get grass-roots work.If this is the truth,So young people in today's Taiwan society,Instead of the higher education be more difficult to find a job.

  >>兴趣:清华博士"不务正业"说相声 入行师父是磁带 >>interest:Dr. Tsinghua"Fiddle around"Said crosstalk into line the master is the magnetic tape

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Dr. Tsinghua has the attitude,But full-time speak of the crosstalk,Probably many people will think him"Fiddle around"/"Bad diploma".But for LiYin fly said,But he can crosstalk and Ph.D. And while the gu.

  >>声音:中科院院长:人才流失是发展中国家面临的共同问题 >>voice:The Chinese academy of sciences: talent loss is developing countries face a common problem



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