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非沪籍女生约辩异地高考沦为骂战 无疾而终--亲民维稳网络舆情监测室
2012-12-19

  本报记者 韩玮 发自上海

Our reporter HanWei from Shanghai

  占海特自己的偶像,不是刘翔和姚明,而是昂山素季和马丁·路德金。

The sea of special their idols,not liu xiang and yao Ming,But aung SAN suu kyi and Martin Luther King jr.

 10月25日,当15岁的占海特与父亲出现在上海市大沽路100号时,被数十人挡住去路。他们戴着印有“No”字的黑色口罩和墨镜,摆出奥特曼消灭妖怪时的手势,并大声高呼,“保卫上海”。

On October 25,,When 15 years old, of the sea with his father appeared in Shanghai dagu road 100 number,Be dozens of people get into the way.They are wearing with"no"Word black masks and sunglasses,Set out autom destroy the devil of gestures,And shouted loudly,"Defend Shanghai".

非沪籍女生就异地高考约辩 The Shanghai nationality girls about different college entrance examination contend? ?? ?

  在他们眼中,占海特是“入侵的蝗虫”,因为这个女孩的户籍远在江西九江,尽管一家人来沪十年,但未取得沪籍,故而不应要求参加上海中考。

In their eyes,Of hyatt is"Invasion of locusts",Because the girl have the census register of jiangxi jiujiang,Although the family to Shanghai ten years,But has not obtained Shanghai nationality,So should not be required to take part in the Shanghai tests.

  “滚回江西去!”今年6月,占海特开通微博,公开争取随迁子女在学籍所在地的中高考权利后,这些刺目的字眼常常出现在评论里。10月25日,她邀请京沪籍人士参加公平教育机会的辩论,一群自认有话要说的“奥特曼”应约前往。

"Go back to jiangxi to!"In June this year,Of hyatt open micro bo,For SuiQian public school children in the ZhongGaoKao rights,The harsh words often appear in the comments.On October 25,,She invited the beijing-shanghai nationals to fair education opportunity to debate,A group of identity have words to say"autom"Should be to.

  然而,辩论根本无法进行,因为,双方水火不容。一位“奥特曼”、某央企的设计总监老崔事后告诉时代周报,当日,他们除了呼喊“上海不要外地蝗虫”,占海特的父亲也一度高呼“上海本地人滚出上海”。

however,The debate could not to,because,Both sides are water and fire.a"autom"/Some of the old cui renmin design director later told The Times weekly,the,They shouted in addition to"Shanghai don't field locusts",Of the sea's father was Shouting"Shanghai native roll out Shanghai".

  “上海丰富的教育资源是几代人勒紧裤腰带积累而得,我们认为,应先满足上海生源的需求,同时,也欢迎外地人,但设立适当的门槛并不过分。”老崔认为,占海特一家未能在上海落户,问题在于自身,而非户籍制度。

"Shanghai abundant education resources are a few generation and accumulation belt tightening,We think,Should be to meet the needs of students in Shanghai,At the same time,Also welcome foreigner,But set up appropriate threshold is not too much."Old cui think,Of the sea, a failed to settle in Shanghai,The problem is their own,Instead of the household registration system.

  而占海特认为,上海的教育资源过剩,那些沪籍人士宁愿把牛奶倒掉也不肯施舍给非沪籍人。

And that of hyatt,Shanghai's education resources surplus,The Shanghai nationals would rather put out the milk will not give to the Shanghai nationality people.

  这场对峙因为近日媒体的介入迅速引发广泛热议。公开资料显示,人口流动频繁的中国目前拥有留守儿童5800万、随迁子女2700万,他们中的不少人希望放开异地高考;而在北京、上海,又有一大群京沪籍人士旗帜鲜明地捍卫自己的利益,坚决反对。

The confrontation because recently media intervention of widespread quickly hot debate.Public data shows,Population flow frequent China currently has 58 million left-behind children/SuiQian 27 million children,Many people want to let go of them different college entrance examination;In Beijing/Shanghai,And have a large group of beijing-shanghai nationals stand up to defend their interests,Firmly opposed.

  占海特管后者叫“光头党”—大城市中极端排外一族,而后者取“医闹”的谐音,形容占海特等人为异闹分子。“光头党”这个诋毁性称呼的背后是教育利益攸关方巨大的认知鸿沟,而这又该如何消除?

The latter is of hyatt tube"GuangTouDang"In big cities - extreme exclusive gens,While the latter take"Medical trouble"homophonic,Description of the sea card for different surface molecules."GuangTouDang"The blackening sex call is behind education of stakeholders huge cognitive gap,Which how to eliminate?

  

规则的破坏者 Destroyer of rules

  就和名字一样,占海特有些特别,有别于大多数同龄的上海本地孩子,因为她还有一个8岁的弟弟和2007年出生的妹妹。用“光头党”的话说,这个家庭严重超生。

And the same name,For some special hite,Different from most of their peers, Shanghai local children,Because she has an eight-year-old brother and sister was born in 2007.with"GuangTouDang"words,The family serious super living.

  也正因为超生,占全喜不可能获得上海户籍。按照现行规定,上海市要求对个人的学历、就职、个人所得税等7大类指标进行打分,分数达到一定水平者方可落户,而超生者几乎一票否决。

It is because of a super living,For all or not likely to Shanghai census register.According to the current regulation,Shanghai requirements for individual education/inauguration/Individual income tax for seven kinds of grade indexes,Points to a certain level in the can,And super living are almost one ticket veto.

  对此,“奥特曼”和占海特的意见分歧显而易见。前者认为,这是占家违反基本国策后应得的惩罚,而在深受父亲影响的占海特看来,没有沪籍就不能在上海参加中高考更是荒唐的。

this,"autom"And of hyatt differences of opinion is obvious.The former argues that,This is in violation of the basic state policy of family after comeuppance,And by the influence of the father of the sea, it seems,no Shanghai nationality is not in Shanghai for the ZhongGaoKao is absurd.

  据占全喜介绍,早在1994年,他便辞去了江西铁路系统的工作,南下珠海,倒腾了几年保险、股票,并经营一家杂货店。2002年银行提高利息后,保险业的营生比较艰难,他便开始关注上海浦东,并最终举家迁沪,做起了电信代理的生意。

According to account for all xi is introduced,As early as in 1994,Then he resigned from the jiangxi railway system,Zhuhai south,Pour a teng years insurance/stock,And runs a grocery store.2002 years after the bank to increase interest rates,The job is difficult,He began to pay attention to Shanghai pudong,And finally, Shanghai residents moved,With the telecommunications agency business.

  那一年,占海特不足5岁。因此,自她记事起,同学、老师、朋友、父母都住在上海,而江西老家只是一个逢年过节才回去的地方。“我是上海人!”接受采访时,占海特告诉时代周报。

That year,Accounts for less than 5 years, the sea.so,Since she can remember,students/The teacher/friends/All the parents live in Shanghai,And jiangxi home is just a holiday to go back to the place."I come from Shanghai!"interviews,Of hyatt tell times weekly.

  但在小学的最后一年,占海特还是发现,较好的公办中学都将与自己无缘,包括心仪已久的上海外国语大学附属浦东外国语分校,因为,从户籍上看,她是江西人。

But in the final year of primary school,Of hyatt or found,Good public high school will be out with oneself,Including the crush of affiliated to Shanghai international studies university, pudong, foreign languages,because,Look from the census register,She is JiangXiRen.

  此后,相当一段时间里,这个十岁出头的小孩非常困惑。她甚至给上述中学的捐资者李嘉诚写信,“为什么他们能接受‘非上海户口’的李爷爷的捐资,却拒绝我这个‘非上海户口’的学生的求学?”

Since then,Quite a period of time,The ten s child very confused.She even to the middle school write li ka shing faculty of donors,"Why they can accept‘not Shanghai registered permanent residence’Grandpa li beforehand,Refused to me this‘not Shanghai registered permanent residence’The students study?"

  按照占全喜的说法,他家的气氛非常民主,如果孩子对某一些事情有看法,他会鼓励其找到当事方发表意见。在如此的环境中,占海特很早便有了维权意识。而2012年6月,本应参加中考的她最终没有等来上海的政策变革。于是,她辍学了,成为全国争取异地高考权利的上访者中年纪最小的一位。

According to account for all like that,His family atmosphere very democratic,If a child to some things a view,He would encourage the parties find comment.In such environment,Of hyatt early had rights consciousness.But in June 2012,This should attend tests of she finally did not wait to Shanghai policy changes.so,She dropped out,Become a national college entrance examination for the rights of foreign capitals the youngest one.

  不过,占家的遭遇也饱受质疑,一位不久前通过人才引进渠道落户的沪籍人士告诉时代周报,占家认为,这些游戏规则通通不对,全都需要改革,这对于遵守规则者来说公平吗?

but,Home of the encounter also came under question,A not long ago through the talent introduction channel in the Shanghai nationals tell times weekly,Think of home,The rules of the game all wrong,All need to reform,This to follow the rules for the fair?

  

微博发问 Micro bo ask

  “我生于珠海……小学时自认珠海人,中学时才认同自己是上海人。现在有人告诉我,你不是上海人……必须回老家参加中考,留在上海只能读中职校。各位老师、叔叔阿姨,告诉我这是为什么?”今年6月8日,占海特发布第一条微博,配图上,她举着一张白纸,上书六个红字—还我中考权利。

"I was born in zhuhai……Elementary school identity zhuhai people,Don't agree with his high school is from Shanghai.now someone told me,Aren't you from Shanghai……Must die in tests,Stay in Shanghai only read in vocational school.Fellow teachers/Uncle aunt,Tell me is this why?"June 8,,Of hyatt issued the first micro bo,Distribution chart,She is holding a piece of white paper,Book six scarlet letter - also I tests rights.

  “微博是最后一根稻草。我别无他选。”占海特如此解释自己的行为。

"Micro bo is the last straw.I don't have to choose."Of hyatt so explain your behavior.

  实际上,在题为《教育公平我的梦想》的博客文章中,占海特坦言,“不是我不愿意去(江西),也不是我不敢去。老家没有一位同学,没关系,可以从零开始;老家的教材和考试科目(与上海)不同,没关系,可以慢慢赶上;老家没有可靠的监护人,没关系,这样反而更加自由;老家的老师要求更严,没关系,我不怕!”

In fact,In the topic[Education fair my dream]Blog article,Of hyatt said,"not I don't want to go to(jiangxi),Is not I can't go.Home without a classmate,it doesn't matter,Can start from scratch;Their hometown materials and exam course(And Shanghai)different,it doesn't matter,Can slowly to catch up with;Their hometown no reliable guardian,it doesn't matter,This is all the more freedom;Home of the teacher asked more strict,it doesn't matter,I am not afraid of!"

  “我之所以没有回去是因为不想妥协。”占海特说。

"I did not go back because don't want to compromise."Of sea, says.

  即便如此,选择还有很多,比如,假结婚。11月下旬,时代周报记者就联系到一位年轻女士,自称单身并拥有上海户口,愿意帮助记者解决浙江户籍的孩子在沪读书问题,但要收费3万。

Even so,There are a lot of choice,Such as,False marriage.Late november,Times weekly reporters were linked to a young lady,Claims to single and have Shanghai hukou,To help solve the registered permanent residence of zhejiang reporter children reading problems in Shanghai,But want to charge 30000.

  而占海特还曾从好友口中得知,一位与她处境类似的同学,其父母绞尽脑汁,最终通过各种方法成功移民非洲,此后,她便可凭借留学生的身份参加难度远低于普通高考的选拔考试,从而进入中国的大学。

And of hyatt had heard from friends,A similar situation with her classmates,His parents rack one's brains,Finally through the various methods successful immigrants Africa,Since then,She can with the identity of the students in the difficulty is far lower than common the university entrance exam selection test,To enter the Chinese university.

  “我自己的‘问题’我清楚—认死理、一根筋,那些事情我做不来。”最终,占全喜选择了“做得来”的上访,实际上,早在女儿觉察到户口问题之前,他就已开始找有关部门表达诉求。

"My own‘problems’I know - RenSiLi/One track-minded,Those things I can't do it."finally,Of all the happy choice"Do it"petitions,In fact,As early as in daughter aware of registered permanent residence questions,He has started to find the relevant departments their demands.

  占全喜说,第一次和女儿提及“上访”时,他问她是否愿意就读书的问题找上海市领导谈谈,女儿表现得很高兴,于是,两人便同行了。而对于多次上访的结果,父女很失望,他们没有见到市领导,接待的同志只是希望他们尽快在进入中职校和回老家求学中作出选择。

Accounted for all xi said,And the first daughter mention"petitions"when,He asked if she would like to read the problem to find the leadership to talk about,Daughter played very happy,so,Two people then went together.For many times the result of appeal,Father was very disappointed,They don't see city leaders,The reception of comrade just want them as soon as possible in the vocational school and back in the school to make a choice.

  6月8日,距离上海市2012年中考只有一周,焦虑的占海特开通微博,并为自己标注了少年公民、因非沪籍失学等关键词。

June 8,Distance Shanghai 2012 tests only a week,The anxiety of hyatt open micro bo,And for themselves the mark young citizens/Because the Shanghai nationality to drop out of school and other key words.

  至今,这个实名账号已发布700余条微博,内容多与异地高考相关,而其中表现的遣词造句的能力以及对事物的洞见让不少人感慨“不简单”。比如,谈及故乡,微博上写道,南方是我的第一故乡,上海是第二故乡,江西是我的祖籍地和父母的故乡。非洲是全人类共同的故乡。

has,The real name account published article 700 micro bo,More content and other related to the college entrance examination,And the performance of the wording and phrasing ability as well as to the things let many people feeling insight"not simple".Such as,About home,Micro bo wrote in,The south is my first home,Shanghai is a second home,Jiangxi is my ancestral home and parents' home.Africa is the hometown of common humanity.

  占海特自称,这些文字并非父亲代笔,但他会帮助查询资料、数据;而某些问题,两人也会讨论。占全喜还称,自己已说不过长大的女儿,微博上的言论都是她自己的意思。

Of hyatt claims to,These words are not a ghost father,But he will help inquires the material/data;And some problems,Two people will also be discussed.Accounted for all xi also said,His daughter has been said but grew up,Micro blog comments are her own meaning.

  不过,老崔坚持认为,这些微博的口吻过于“成人化”,幕后或有操刀者,而且,不少观点太过激进,并不客观。而这也成为“光头党”持续质疑占海特的主要理由之一。

but,Old cui insists,The micro bo tone too"ChengRenHua",Behind the scenes or CaoDaoZhe,and,Many view too radical,Is not objective.And this has become"GuangTouDang"Continuous question of sea, one of the main reasons.

  “起初,我看到那些评论很气愤,但可能是抗挫折能力天生比较强,很快就无感觉了,我也不会拉黑他们。”占海特说。

"At first,I saw the review is very angry,But may be resistance to frustration ability nature is more strong,Soon no sense,I will not pull them black."Of sea, says.

  

未完成的约辩 Unfinished about debate

  尽管如此,上海人与外地人围绕教育权的指责仍在继续。10月22日,占海特更新微博,希望邀请京沪籍人士于3天后参加公平教育机会的辩论,目的是终止无休止的谩骂,让大家回归理性。

Even so,From Shanghai and provincial education around the accused continues.On October 22,,Of hyatt update micro bo,Hope to invite the beijing-shanghai nationals in 3 days after fair education opportunities to participate in the debate,Purpose is to terminate the endless abuse,Let you return to rational.

  然而,网传甚广的一则视频显示,当天,双方依然忙于呼喊口号,互相指责,一场约辩沦为骂战,无疾而终。

however,The widely and a video display,the,Both sides still busy shout slogans,Blamed each other,A debate about to scold war,Died of old age.

  其实,占海特的核心观点并不复杂。她在微博中写道,上海的高考人数连年坐滑梯,从2007年的10.5万跌至5.5万,跌幅近半;而中考人数从2002年的18.94万回落至8.37万,下降56%。

In fact,The core of the sea's view is not complicated.She wrote in micro bo,Shanghai college entrance examination in the number of sit slide,From 2007 in 105000 fell to 55000,Dropped by almost half;And the number of tests from 2002 in 189400 to 83700 down,Fell by 56%.

  “上海高中师资宁愿赋闲,也不向为城市繁荣付出辛勤劳动和汗水的新上海人的子女开放。”这是占海特得出的结论,并进而呼吁,希望就地中高考政策不要与父母的职业、收入、纳税、房产、社保等挂钩,否则,穷人的孩子永无出头之日。

"Shanghai high school teachers would rather sit,Also not to for urban prosperity pay hard work and sweat of the new Shanghai children open."This is the conclusion of hyatt,And then called for,Hope in situ ZhongGaoKao policy don't and parents' career/income/tax/property/Linked to social security,otherwise,The poor child no down.

  这番观点赢得掌声的同时,也招致不小的质疑。老崔就是占海特所谓的“光头党”之一,近日还发起了一个名为“守沪者联盟”的线下团体。

This view and win the applause at the same time,Also cause a lot of questions.Old cui is accounted for hite called"GuangTouDang"of,Recently has also launched a name"Keep the Shanghai alliance"Off-line group.

  他在接受时代周报采访时表示,“我们欢迎外地人,但上海有户籍门槛,而且通常来说,一个人只要遵纪守法、勤劳肯干,就一定会有所收获。而占全喜有超生及偷税漏税的行为,将他排除在沪籍之外并无不妥。”

He told times weekly interview said,"We welcome foreigners,But Shanghai is household threshold,And usually,A person as long as the law/Diligence is willing to do,Will be rewarded.And of all like a super living and tax evasion behavior,Keep him out of the Shanghai nationality besides there is nothing wrong."

  与此同时,老崔认为,上海的教育资源并非过剩,而是经过几代人的努力后,基础教育终于趋于正常,竞争压力不是太大,孩子有更多时间培养兴趣爱好。“若突然让内陆那些为改变命运而玩命读书的孩子与上海本地孩子一起参加应试竞争,那么我们的付出岂不是付诸东流了?”

meanwhile,Old cui think,Shanghai's education resources are not surplus,But with the efforts of several generations after,Basic education finally tend to be normal,The pressure of competition is not too big,Children have more time to develop interest."If suddenly let inland for those who change destiny and hard reading children and Shanghai local children join examination competition,So we pay not the count?"

  “如果现阶段彻底取消户籍,放开异地高考,那么,大量欠发达地区的人口会涌入相对发达的城市,这对于城市管理来说是极大的负担。全国只有一个上海,它需要包容的东西太多,所以目前,设立一定门槛是必要的,而那些跨不过槛、拿不到沪籍的人应当扪心自问,为何别人做得到?而若发现自己不适合上海,那么,请选择更适合的城市。”老崔说。

"If present completely cancel the census register,Let go of different college entrance examination,so,A large number of less developed areas of the population will into relatively developed city,The city management it is a great burden.The only a Shanghai,It needs to include too much,So now,It is necessary to set up a certain threshold,And those who cross but sill/Can't get Shanghai nationality should ask yourself,Why do people get?And if you find yourself is not suitable for Shanghai,so,Please choose a more suitable city."Old cui said.

  然而,这一番“适者生存,不适者淘汰”的论调,与占海特的主张,分属两个话语体系。他们无法理解对方。

however,This a"The survival of the fittest,Unfit person is out"argument,And of the sea's claims,Belong to two words system.They couldn't understand each other.

  老崔认为,大沽路的约辩只是开端,他们还会继续反对下去。占海特则乐观地认为,在所有支持者的推动之下,“光头党”将无地立足,改变很快就会到来。而她的父亲并不为女儿的辍学过多担心,他相信,女儿冰雪聪明,未来一定会读上好大学。

Old cui think,Dagu road debate about is only the beginning,They also will continue to oppose it.Of hyatt is optimistic that the,In all supporters under push,"GuangTouDang"Will no based on,Change will come soon.And her father is not for her daughter's school too much worry,He believes that,Daughter ice snow cleverness,The future will be read into a good college.



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