11日晚，袁厉害讲了一个多小时的话，姐姐递水给她，让她注意身体。小绺 摄 The eleventh night,Yuen badly about more than an hour words,Sister when nece ary to her,Let her pay attention to the body.XiaoLiu perturbation

　　人物印象

Character impression

　　1月11日，是兰考大火中失去性命的7名弃婴的“头七”。

On January 11,,The fire is LanKao lost soul and name of the abandoned baby"First seven".

　　收养他们的袁厉害在医院的病床上躺了6天了。11日晚，新京报记者以袁厉害侄女的身份进入她的病房。袁厉害穿着一件满是污渍的T恤，披一件破洞漏了棉花的棉袄，半躺床上。

Adopt them yuen badly in a hospital bed lying six days.The eleventh night,The Beijing news reporter to yuen badly niece identity into her room.Yuen badly in a is full of stains T-shirt,With a hole leakage the cotton quilted jacket,Half lying on the bed.

　　她讲起了前一天的梦境。她梦到孩子回家来看她，“他们坐在屋子不吭声，我怎么喊他们都不叫我妈妈”。随后的一个多小时里，袁厉害回忆了失火后的惨状，以及和孩子们生活的点滴。

She speaks up the dream of the day before.She dreamed of children to go home to see her,"They sat in the house don't utter a word,How do I shout they don't call my mother".Then a little more than a hour,Yuen bad memories after the fire of horror,And the children of the life intravenous drip.

　　她自称是个“直率”的人，情绪转变很快，时而捶胸顿足，时而爽朗大笑。

She said she was a"direct"people,Mood change soon,Sometimes beat his breast,Sometimes bright and clear laughter.

　　聊到最后，袁厉害说，一想起身边一个孩子也没有了，她说像“揪住心一样疼”。她捂着胸口倒在床上痛哭起来。“五孩、扎根，你们咋就走了？妈想见你们啊，豁妮、白妮、小十……”

Chat to the last,Yuen badly said,Think of side a child is not,She said like"Hold my heart ache".She wu wear the chest down on the bed into tears."Five children/roots,How you went away?Mom wants to see you ah,A variable/BaiNi/Ten little……"

　　

火灾现场 fire

　　“最后悔没扎到火里救他们” "The most regret not tie to fire delivered them"

　　新京报：火灾发生时，你在哪里？

The Beijing news:When a fire happens,Where are you?

　　袁厉害：那天早晨我在土地局办事，我闺女杜鹃打电话说，妈你快点回来吧，到小孩住那个地方。我当时就迷了，心里吓得“腾腾腾”赶紧下楼往家跑。

Yuen badly:The morning I was land office work,I call girl cuckoo said,Mom you quickly come back to me,The child live the place.I was lost,Heart scared"Steaming room"Hurriedly go downstairs to home run.

　　新京报：回到家看到火势怎样了？

The Beijing news:Back home to see how the fire?

　　袁厉害：我到家门口以后，看到厅里火很大。我开始反复地喊“五孩”“小十”。我赶紧往火里去捞，两个人拉住我不让我进。我现在最后悔就是当时没扎到火里去救他们。我心想着完了，完了，我的孩子啊。

Yuen badly:I went to home later,See the fire in the great.I began to repeatedly shout"Five children""Ten little".I quickly went to the fire to get,Two men took I don't let me in.Now I most regret is wasn't firm to fire to save them.My heart had thought,finished,My child!.

　　新京报：孩子们被抱出来时情况如何？

The Beijing news:The children were held out the situation?

　　袁厉害：最先救出来的是小十，还能动。等火小了，人家进去摸出来的是五孩（20岁）。他们不叫我看，哄我说有气，但我看着他一动不动，像是不行了。然后是扎根，小脸黑乎乎的，也不行了。然后是小雨。最后那四个小的，还没抱出来，我就想着都不中了。

Yuen badly:The first to save out of ten is small,Also move.Fire, such as small,The somebody else in touch out of five children(Twenty years of age).They do not let me see,Coax I said so,But I still looked at him,Like that won't be possible.Then is the root,Face dark,more.Then rain.Finally the four small,Haven't hold out,I just want to have failed.

　　新京报：医院抢救的情况如何？

The Beijing news:Hospital situation how?

　　袁厉害：医生说五孩不中了，别人说他是在二楼熏死的，他走路走不好。我心里感觉就像有人掐着我的喉咙。被带到派出所后，我就眼一黑晕倒了。

Yuen badly:The doctor said five children failed,Others say he is on the second floor smoked die,He can't walk well.My heart felt like someone device with my throat.After was taken to a police station,I will eye a black faint.

　　新京报：失火时南院有大人没有？

The Beijing news:When the fire has no courtyard south of adults?

　　袁厉害：没有大人。失火的南院以前是孩子爸爸照顾，前几天他回老家了，我就叫拾荒老太太看着。那天老太太去医院上班了。我早晨8点跑去南院照顾了他们一下，就出门了。

Yuen badly:No adult.The burning south court before the child dad take care of,A few days ago he was back,I will call the old lady looked at glean and collect scraps.That old woman to the hospital to work.I 8 a.m. run south hospital to take care of them once,Go out with.

　　新京报：事故原因说是小孩玩火，平时孩子们玩火吗？

The Beijing news:The cause of the accident, children play with fire,Usually the children play with fire?

　　袁厉害：几个大一点的小孩都懂事，玩炮都是到外边玩，不在屋里放。不过失火前两天，屋里常停电，我买了2个打火机给五孩收着。但五孩手没劲，不会用打火机。

Yuen badly:Some older children are reasonable,Play gun are play outside,Put in the house.But two days before the fire,House often power,I bought two lighter to five children keep.But five children hand boring,Won't use lighter.

　　

二十多年前 Twenty years ago

　　为弃婴舍下满月的儿子 Under the full moon for abandoned baby son

　　新京报：你是什么时候开始收养孩子的？

The Beijing news:When did you begin to adopt children?

　　袁厉害：1986年，我的小儿子杜鸣42天的时候。那天，我看到一个小男孩装在盒子里被扔到医院急诊科厕所门口。我想着好赖也是一条命，就抱回家了，给他起名叫海洋。后来又拾了两个。

Yuen badly:In 1986,,My little son DuMing 42 days.That day,I saw a little boy packed in the box was thrown to the hospital emergency department at the door of the bathroom.I think HaoLai is also a life,Just hold home,And he called his name ocean.Then took two.

　　新京报：你自己有三个孩子，收养不耽误照顾他们吗？

The Beijing news:You have three children,Adopt don't delay to take care of them?

　　袁厉害：确实照顾不过来。我把刚满月的杜鸣送到他奶奶家。想着他奶奶招呼着，比跟着我弄六个强。

Yuen badly:Do take care of not to come over.I have just DuMing full moon to his grandma's.Thinking about his grandmother called the,Follow me with more than six strong.

　　新京报：孩子那么小舍得吗？

The Beijing news:Children so small be willing to part with or use?

　　袁厉害：咋能舍得？孩子才满月，我胀奶胀得不行，想着孩子要吃奶，夜里想得直哭。

Yuen badly:Zha can be willing to part with or use?A child is a full moon,I expansion milk bulging no,Thinking about children to eat milk,The night to be straight cry.

　　新京报：你有没有想过少捡几个？

The Beijing news:Have you ever wanted to pick up a few less?

　　袁厉害：咋不想呢，但后来身不由己了。都知道我是个好心人，都乱往我这里送，我怎么办？也说不收，可是人家说两句好话，我心就软了。

Yuen badly:Zha don't want to?,But then the involuntarily.All know that I am a man,All disorderly to me here to send,What shall I do?Also said don't accept,But the somebody else a good word,My heart is soft.

　　新京报：收养这么多孩子，日子不好过吧？

The Beijing news:Adopt so many children,Having a bad time,?

　　袁厉害：难着哩，到了1990年后，就有二十多个孩子了。80年代做生意的人少，我摆个摊，钱好赚。到了1993年前后，赚不到钱，我啥活都干，每天我累得心脏扑通扑通跳，瞌睡的时候，我趴到医院急诊科的椅子上就睡着了。

Yuen badly:Difficult way,In the 1990 years later,There is more than twenty children.In the 80 s few business,I put a booth,Make good money.In the 1993 years before and after,Earn money,What do I live,Every day I was too tired to heart plop plop jump,Doze of,I lay prone to a hospital emergency department chair fell asleep.

　　住也没地方住，我在街边搭个棚子，孩子们睡一排，冬天我和孩子们冻得直打颤。实在没吃的了，只能管别人要一点吃的，先给孩子吃。

Live and no place to live,I am in the street to build a shed,The children sleep a row,Winter cold I and the children are chattering.There is no to eat,Can only teach others to something to eat,Give children eat.

　　新京报：日子这么苦，当时你有没有想过图个啥？

The Beijing news:Days so bitter,Did you ever think what a diagram?

　　袁厉害：图个啥？我也不知道图个啥。有人说孩子长大了报答我，那时那些小孩都一点点，啥也想不到，就想着能过下去就行。我是个苦命的人，这些苦受得了。

Yuen badly:Chart a what?I don't know what a diagram.Someone said that the child grew up thanked me,When the children are a little bit,What also not,Just want to go down.I am a GuMing people,These things stand.

　　我喜欢听苦戏，最喜欢听《赵氏孤儿》、《卖苗郎》，听听戏里面苦命人的故事，哭一哭，心里就好受点。

I like to listen to bitter play,The most like to listen to[Scott orphan]/[Sell MiaoLang],Listen to the story of the people of GuMing play inside,Cry for a cry,The heart will feel better point.

　　新京报：养大这些孩子很辛苦，有什么让你觉得快乐的地方？

The Beijing news:Raise the children very hard,What make you feel happy place?

　　袁厉害：孩子里有个小哑巴，你别看他不会说话，我用手拍一拍他或者一喂他奶吃，他就咧着嘴挤着牙“嘿嘿”笑。所有的孩子中我最喜欢圆圆，打小她就趴在我的肚子上睡。我出门了，她总是趴我脸上亲一口，把我心里甜的。

Yuen badly:The child has a little dumb,You don't see he can't talk,I pass my hands clap him or a feeding him milk to eat,He would grin push teeth"Hey hey"smile.All the children in my favorite menu,Playing at the small for her belly on my sleep.I go out,She always dropped a kiss on my face,Put my heart sweet.

　　新京报：在你心里，收养的孩子和自己的孩子有区别吗？

The Beijing news:In your heart,Adopted children and their children have distinction?

　　袁厉害：都一样。收养的孩子刚来的时候都还带着脐带，和自己生的有啥不一样？

Yuen badly:Are all the same.Adopted children just come still with umbilical cord,And his birth have what different?

　　

2008年前 2008 years ago

　　“福利院说，送来也得死” "Welfare home said,Sent also die"

　　新京报：最初捡到孩子，为啥不直接送到福利院去？

The Beijing news:First pick up the child,Why not directly to the welfare home to?

　　袁厉害：1993年，我才知道开封有福利院。我带了3个小孩过去，工作人员不收，我心想不能把孩子抱一百里路再抱回去啊。我把3个孩子往福利院门口一搁扭头就跑。那个男的在后边追着我骂，他说你倒是跑啊！我回头也骂他，说你倒是收啊！福利院就收了这3个。

Yuen badly:In 1993,,I just know kaifeng have welfare homes.I have three children in the past,Staff don't accept,I thought can't leave child one hundred miles to embrace to return ah.I have three children to the welfare of a shelf turned tail and ran.The man behind chasing I called,He said you is run ah!I'll also scold him,It is said that you accept ah!Took the welfare of the three.

　　新京报：后来就不再送了吗？

The Beijing news:Later will no longer send?

　　袁厉害：有十几年我都没去送。一是人家不爱收；二是生活逐渐好了点；三是我也听说福利院待小孩不好。小十之前被他妈妈（养母）送到过开封福利院。有一次他妈妈去看他，发现他头磕破了也没人管。

Yuen badly:Have more than ten years I didn't go to send.One is the people do not love;The second is a better life;The third is I also heard that welfare homes for children is bad.Small before ten by his mother(Adoptive mother)A welfare to kaifeng.Once his mother went to see him,He scraped his head that no one tube.

　　2005年媒体一报道我的事，送来的孩子更多了。我养不住，开封本地的媒体带着我去送。开封市福利院照样不收。

2005 media report me,The children send more.I have not,Kaifeng local media with me to send.Kaifeng welfare home so don't accept.

　　新京报：开封市福利院为啥不收？

The Beijing news:Kaifeng welfare home why don't accept?

　　袁厉害：他们说福利院条件不好，你送来也得死。我想着那还不如自己养着。

Yuen badly:They say poor welfare homes,Send in your dies too.I think it would be better to raise yourself with.

　　新京报：看媒体报道，福利院主动找你要收养孩子啊？

The Beijing news:See media reports,Welfare homes actively looking for you want to adopt children ah?

　　袁厉害：那到了2008年了，我收养的孩子比开封福利院的还多。院长王永喜主动来到我家里要把孩子都接走。他还带我去福利院看了看。那之后我收到小孩就给他打电话，让他来拉。2008年送去有十来个。

Yuen badly:That in 2008 years,I adopt a child more than kaifeng welfare homes.Dean WangYongXi active came to my home to take the children walk by.He also took me to the welfare homes looked at.After that I received the child will give him a call,Let him to pull.In 2008 sent to have a dozen.

　　新京报：既然福利院条件不错，为何不把家里的孩子都送走？

The Beijing news:Since the welfare home good conditions,Why don't you take home the children are away?

　　袁厉害：我考虑过，我现在身体不管用了。他们跟着政府肯定比跟着我强，政府毕竟比我的力量大。2011年9月，他们过来，我让他们拉走5个小的。

Yuen badly:I considered,I'm in no matter used.They follow the government must be higher than follow me strong,After all, the government than my strength.In September 2011,They come,I let them draw away five small.

    但说真心话，我真不想让那些大点的孩子们走。每次福利院的人来光想拉走好一点的孩子，脑瘫和智障的都不愿意要。每次他们来的时候，我会把那些我喜欢的孩子们藏到亲戚家里。　　新京报：为什么这么做呢？

    But to tell you the truth,I really don't want to let the big point of the children away.Each welfare home to light want to draw away good little children,Cerebral palsy and mentally retarded of all don't want.Every time they come,I'll put those I like children hide to relatives.The Beijing news:Why do so?

    袁厉害：这些孩子从脐带没掉就跟着我。我喜欢这些孩子，我想跟他们在一起。我前几年送到福利院的孩子想见都见不到了，开封福利院的人总是不让进。

    Yuen badly:These children from umbilical cord didn't drop will follow me.I like the children,I want to with them.I am a few years ago to the welfare of children want to see all see it again,Kaifeng welfare homes are always don't let into.

  

    2012年   In 2012,

    打算建一个私人福利院     Plans to build a private welfare homes

    新京报：这么多年来你一共收养了多少孩子？

    The Beijing news:Over the years you have adopted many children?

    袁厉害：这20多年来，我收养的小孩一共有百十个，成活了五六十个，送给别人收养的有20个左右。

    Yuen badly:This for more than twenty years,I adopted children a total of 100 a,The WuLiuShiGe survival,For others to adopt there are twenty or so.

    新京报：你会把孩子送给什么样的家庭收养？

    The Beijing news:You will send their children to adopt what kind of family?

    袁厉害：我会考察一下收养人的家庭条件。家里条件好的，没有孩子的，我才送给他们收养。

    Yuen badly:I'll look in the family condition.The condition in the home is good,No child,I just gave them to adopt.

    新京报：没残疾的孩子比较容易被收养?

    The Beijing news:No disabled children are easy to be adopted?

    袁厉害：是啊，好一点的孩子谁都爱要。

    Yuen badly:yes,Better children who love to.

    新京报：网上也有人质疑你用小孩赚钱。

    The Beijing news:On the net also some question with your child to make money.

    袁厉害：我从来没卖过小孩。网上说啥的都有，还有人说我脏，说小孩"命若垃圾"。我儿子看见电脑上有报道，就念给我听。

    Yuen badly:I have never sold the child.What is the net,And others say I dirty,Said children"If life garbage".My son see computer reports,Just read it to me.

    新京报：你觉得孩子们真的"命若垃圾"吗？

    The Beijing news:Do you think children really"If life garbage"??

    袁厉害：他们的生活条件确实不好，也脏，但他们不是垃圾。我自己也脏，出事后政府给买了几件衣服，这是我这么多年来第一次穿新衣服。

    Yuen badly:Their living conditions really bad,Also dirty,But they are not junk.I myself also dirty,After the government to buy some clothes,This is my first time for so many years to wear new clothes.

    新京报：你现在收入来源是什么？

    The Beijing news:You are source of income is???????

    袁厉害：我开了个米线馆和一个副食商店。我帮人家做中间人挣钱，有2间铁皮房租了出去收点房租。加上每月将近2000块的低保。好心人再捐赠一些。

    Yuen badly:I opened a rice noodle house and a subsidiary food store.I do to help people to earn money broker,Have 2 sheet between the rent out the point the rent.With nearly 2000 pieces per month of residents.Good man please donate some.

    新京报：你收过民间最大的捐款是多少？

    The Beijing news:You received the folk's largest donation is much?

    袁厉害：去年3月，广州一个老板来家里看我，给我10万块钱。这是我收到的最多一个捐款。他让我给孩子们找一个好一点的地方给孩子们住。

    Yuen badly:Last march,Guangzhou a boss to home to see me,Give me 100000 dollars.This is the most I received a donation.He let me give the children find a better place to live for the children.

    新京报：你怎么用这笔钱？

    The Beijing news:How do you use the money?

    袁厉害：这笔钱我买什么都有记录。我买了一层自建房。房子刚盖成，还没装修，准备弄成一个私人孤儿院让孩子们住，没想到孩子们再也住不成了。我一直想开一个自己的福利院。

    Yuen badly:The money I buy what have record.I bought a layer from the house.The house is built just,Haven't decorate,Ready to get into a private orphanage let children live,Didn't think the children can not live.I always want to open a own welfare homes.

    新京报：你现在最大的忧虑是什么？

    The Beijing news:You are now the biggest worry is???????

    袁厉害：我怕见不到孩子。要是以后见不到孩子了，我死了也不甘。我也怕孩子们忘记我，我死不瞑目。

    Yuen badly:I'm afraid I can't see the child.If later see children,I'm dead also unwilling.I also fear that the children forget me,I turn over in one's grave.

  

    火灾前半月   Fire first half

    "烧死的两个孩子本来要送走"     "Burned the two children had to send away"

    新京报：你收养小孩期间，民政部门都给了你什么样的帮助？

    The Beijing news:Your adopted child period,Civil affairs departments give you what kind of help?

    袁厉害：政府前前后后一共给我的不到1万块钱。有时候他们也会给我送一些生活物品。这些东西有一半都是我带着孩子们到民政局要来的。低保从2006年的4个到现在的20个，一共取出来了6万多块钱。

    Yuen badly:The government gave me a total of up and down less than 10000 dollars.Sometimes they also send me some life items.These things half of them are I took the children to the civil affairs bureau to come.Residents from 2006 in four to the present twenty,To take out a total of more than 60000 dollars.

    新京报：民政局帮你联系过福利院吗？

    The Beijing news:Civil affairs bureau to help you contacted welfare homes?

    袁厉害：民政局没有人来跟我说送福利院的事。前几次都是我去送，或者是福利院的人来拉。2011年的时候，媒体报道说孩子生活差，很多人质疑，民政局的杨佩民局长联系了开封市福利院拉走了5个。

    Yuen badly:Civil affairs bureau no one came to me and said to the welfare home.A few times before I go to send,Or is making people to pull.In 2011,Media reports said the child life difference,A lot of people question,The civil affairs bureau YangPeiMin director contacted the kaifeng welfare home takes a bite out of five.

    出事后，他们托人找到我说，让我说他们多次劝我送孩子去福利院，我都没送。

    After the,They sent to find me,Let me say many times they made advised me to send their children to welfare homes,I didn't send.

    新京报：你觉得政府给帮助够不够？

    The Beijing news:Do you think the government to help enough?

    袁厉害：不够。我最大的难题就是孩子们的住房问题。我一直希望民政局为我建一个福利院，把孩子们都接过去。民政局的领导总是说"不可能"，"兰考县还没福利院呢，怎么可能给你盖一个。"

    Yuen badly:enough.My biggest problem is the children's housing problem.I have been hoping that civil affairs bureau for I built a welfare homes,The children took in the past.Civil affairs bureau leadership always said"Can't","LanKaoXian? Haven't welfare homes,How can give you cover one."

    新京报：政府什么时候开始说你是非法收养？

    The Beijing news:When will the government began to say you are illegal adoption?

    袁厉害：2006年，一个郑州来的"义工"看到孩子们在花园里很脏。就质疑我说我没有收养资格。之后民政局也来说过几次，说我收养不合法，他们光说，也没做过啥。

    Yuen badly:In 2006,,A zhengzhou come"volunteers"See the children in the garden is very dirty.Is question I said I didn't adopt qualification.After civil affairs bureau also speaking a few times,Said I adopt illegal,They said the light,Also didn't do what.

    新京报：定为非法收养后民政部门做过什么吗？

    The Beijing news:After the adoption as illegal civil affairs departments to do what?

    袁厉害：火灾前的半个月，城关镇镇长托人找到我，让把孩子都送到福利院。我也准备将6个小一点的孩子送到福利院，可是兰考民政局社救股股长冯杰说，要公安出警证明，太麻烦就没送成。这6个中有两个在大火中烧死了。

    Yuen badly:Fire before the half a month,Town mayor anyone find me,Let the children to the welfare home.I also ready to six small children to welfare homes,But LanKao civil affairs bureau club save shares FengJie section chief said,To the public security ChuJing proof,Too much trouble didn't send into.This 6 Chinese have two in the fire burnt.

    新京报：民政局曾说你是非法收养？

    The Beijing news:Civil affairs bureau said you are illegal adoptions?

    袁厉害：扔小孩的不犯法，政府的人不管不犯法，我拾了反倒犯法？我要不收养他们，饿死冻死了犯法不？

    Yuen badly:Throw the child not to break the law,The government of the people, no matter not to break the law,I took offense instead?I don't adopt them,The law does not starve to death freeze to death?

    新京报：在你看来，这么多年来政府为啥不主动救助这些孩子？

    The Beijing news:In your opinion,Over the years the government why do not take the initiative to help the children?

    袁厉害：可能是因为忙吧，领导们工作都忙。

    Yuen badly:May be because of busy,Leaders are busy work.

    新京报：有报道说，你可能要负刑事责任，要判刑？

    The Beijing news:There are reports that,You may want to bear criminal responsibility,Sentenced to?

    袁厉害：做事凭良心，判刑他就判，他判我就去，我养活这五六十个孩子，都叫我妈；邻居、网上都说我是好人；这么一辈子，就是马上死了，也值了。

    Yuen badly:Work in good conscience,Sentence he was sentenced to,I will go to his,I support this WuLiuShiGe children,Call my mom;neighbor/Online all say me is a good man;So a lifetime,Is dead immediately,Also value the.

  

    未来   The future

    "政府不管，我还会管"     "The government no matter,I'll pipe"

    新京报：你对孩子们最大期盼？

    The Beijing news:You look forward to the biggest to the children?

    袁厉害：孩子们都是在好心人的帮助下，才养大的。我希望他们能报效国家，多做好事。我也希望送到福利院的孩子们不要出来，长大了就在福利院工作，照顾小孩和老人。我还想让孩子们学个手艺能生存。

    Yuen badly:The children are in the help of man,Just raised.I hope they can render good service to his country,Do nice things.I also hope to the welfare of children don't come out,Grew up in the institution's,Taking care of the children and the elderly.I also want to let the children learn a trade can live.

    新京报：他们做错事了，你如何教育？

    The Beijing news:They do something wrong,How do you education?

    袁厉害：他们被别人歧视，和别人打架的时候，我就会说咱家穷，让他们不要和那些歧视他们的孩子一块玩。

    Yuen badly:They were discriminated against,When the fight with others,I would say I poor,Let them not and discriminates against their children a play.

    新京报：孩子们对你意味着什么？

    The Beijing news:The children mean to you?

    袁厉害：孩子们跟我亲生的一样。失火的时候，我就恨不得陪他们一块去死。

    Yuen badly:With my own children as.Fire when,I can't wait to accompany them to go to the dead.

    新京报：你是否考虑过少养几个孩子，提高他们的生活质量？

    The Beijing news:Have you ever considered less a few children,Improve the quality of their lives?

    袁厉害：捡到每一个孩子总是想着捡最后一个。别人跑那么远送来了，都知道我是个好心人。我心肠软，看见孩子就想要，我自己都没法控制。

    Yuen badly:Pick up to every child is always thinking of picking up the last one.Others go so far brought,All know that I am a man.My bowels are soft,See the child they want to,I can't control.

    新京报：以后再有人给你送孩子了怎么办？

    The Beijing news:Later someone give you send children how to do?

    袁厉害：我不会收了。我会打110或者送到民政局。

    Yuen badly:I won't take the.I'll call 110 or to civil affairs bureau.

    新京报：民政部门要是不管呢？

    The Beijing news:Departments of civil affairs? If no matter?

    袁厉害：政府不管那我还是像以前一样继续收养，我不能看着一个小生命死了。那我会让民政局和派出所给我办好收养手续。

    Yuen badly:The government no matter that I still like before continue to adopt,I can't look at a small life is dead.That I will make civil affairs bureau and the police station to do good to adopt procedures.

    新京报：再有人质疑你，会怎样为自己辩解？

    The Beijing news:Then some question you,How to defend himself?

    袁厉害：我不会说话。我欢迎那些举报我卖孩子的人，逮住我可以把我枪毙。那些质疑我骗低保的，我愿意把所有的低保都给他，再加上1000块钱，给他5个孩子让他去养养试试。

    Yuen badly:I can't talk.I welcome the report I sell the child,I can catch my shot.The question I cheat the subsidies,I would like to put all the residents to him,Plus $1000,Give him five children let him go to have a try.

    新京报：你恨那些质疑你的人吗？

    The Beijing news:You hate those who question your man?

    袁厉害：我不恨，我还感谢他们。他们能质疑我说明他们也关心孩子，想让孩子们过得更好一点。

    Yuen badly:I don't hate,I also thank them.They can challenge my shows that they also care for children,Want to let children live better.

    新京报：你做的事情绝大多数人做不到，你觉得自己是个高尚的人吗？

    The Beijing news:You do most people can't do,You feel like a noble person?

    袁厉害：我就是个好心人。

    Yuen badly:I am a man.

    新京报：病好了以后有什么打算？

    The Beijing news:After the disease have any plan?

    袁厉害：听朋友说兰考要开儿童福利院了，我想去做义工。只要让我看见我的孩子们，我不要工资。我还想去福利院看看孩子们，听说他们会把孩子送给外国人，我害怕见不到我的孩子们。

    Yuen badly:Listen to the friend say LanKao want to open the children's welfare home,I want to do a volunteer.Just let me see my children,I don't pay.I also want to go to see the children welfare home,Heard that they will send their children to foreigners,I am afraid of see my children.

    新京报记者

    The Beijing news reporter

    孔璞 河南开封报道

    KongPu Henan kaifeng reports