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为评副高英语计算机十多年未过 作家:屡败屡战--亲稳网络舆情监测室
2013-01-23

  近日,“山东作家铁流为评职称英语计算机,12年屡战屡败”成为网友热议的话题。 recently,"Shandong writer flowing molten iron for professional evaluation test English computer,12 years repeatedly fought and lost"Become a net friend of hot debate topic.

  铁流,出生于1967年,曾是海军北海舰队政治部创作室的专业作家。从上世纪80年代初起,就开始发表小说,迄今已经出版发表了几百万字的报告文学、小说和散文。近几年,铁流多次担任省级文学奖的评委。现在,他是山东省作家协会的签约作家,担任山东作家协会报告文学委员会副主任。 作家为评副高职称考12年英语计算机

Flowing molten iron,Was born in 1967,Was the north sea fleet political department of the brand professional writers.Beginning in the 1980 s,Began to publish the novel,Have been published so far published millions of words of reportage/Novels and essays.In recent years,Flowing molten iron as many times as the judges of the provincial prize for literature.now,He is the signing of shandong province writers association writer,As shandong writers association, deputy director of the committee report literature. Writer for evaluation of the subtropical high titles in English test and computer? ?? ?

  就是这么一位同辈作家中的佼佼者,现在却仍在为评定副高级职称(二级作家)所需要通过的计算机考试而放下手里的创作工作,天天趴在电脑前练习各种模拟试题。“这次可能还是不行,因为我没把握。”面对记者的采访,铁流说得很无奈。

Is such a peer leader of the writer,Now it is still in the evaluation for four titles(Secondary writer)Need through the computer test and put down his creative work,Every day on the computer simulation practice all kinds of questions."This may or not,Because I'm not sure."In the face of the reporter's interview,Flowing molten iron say very helpless.

  铁流是2000年在部队评上中级职称(三级作家)的。部队要求作家考英语、计算机,画家则考古汉语、计算机。因为没学过英语,每次考英语,他只能在选择题上碰运气。至于计算机,对他来说更是难上加难。10多年来,他总是心怀忐忑进考场,垂头丧气出考场。

Flowing molten iron is 2000 years in the army on intermediate title(Level 3 writer)of.Force requirements writer of the English exam/computer,The painter is Chinese archaeology/computer.Because have not learned English,Every time the English exam,He can only in the choice on a chance.As for the computer,For him is brutally hard.Ten years,He is always in heart into the examination room,Down in the dumps the examination.

  由于职称上不去,铁流不得不于2011年转业到地方。在地方当专业作家,山东作家系列不用考英语,他终于松了半口气,可计算机还得继续考。2012年,铁流将近6个月什么都不干,只练习计算机考题,可他一年内4次报名参加全国专业技术人员计算机应用能力考试,还是没考过。

Due to the title instead,Flowing molten iron had to in 2011 to be transferred to civilian work place.In place when professional writers,Shandong writer series need not take an examination of English,He finally loose half tone,But the computer still have to continue to test.In 2012,,Flowing molten iron nearly 6 months do nothing,Only practice computer examination questions,But his four times a year applied to take the national professional and technical personnel computer application ability test,Still didn't pass.

  “我从1998年就开始用电脑写作,对电脑也非常熟练,写文章、编排,包括发电子邮件、上网浏览都没问题。我一分钟能打70多个字,对作家来说肯定够用了。”铁流说,为了应付这个考试,他不得不练习平时根本就用不上的模块。这些模块考完之后就忘记,再考的时候还得重新练,一次又一次,恶性循环。但计算机是评职称的一个门槛,计算机不过关根本没有参评资格。

"I started to use a computer writing,On the computer is also very skilled,Writing articles/layout,Including email/Surfing the Internet is no problem.I'm a minute can play more than 70 words,The authors for sure will be enough."Flowing molten iron said,In order to cope with the test,He had to practice usually simply don't use module.These modules after test and forget,You take the exam time is still need to practice,Again and again,Vicious cycle.But the computer is professional evaluation of a threshold,The computer doesn't pass no eligible qualification.

  这样的事情不止发生在铁流一个人身上。几年前,某省作协副主席,从来没有学过英语,为了评职称,不得不参加职称外语考试。成天与方块文字打交道的作家,面对满纸的ABC,只好交白卷。最终,这位作家只在考卷上填写了姓名、考号,以示对考试的尊重。

Such a thing happened in more than one person, flowing molten iron.A few years ago,One province vice chairman,Never learned English,In order to professional evaluation,Have to attend the title language test.All day and square with words writer,In the face of the full paper the ABC,Scoreless had to.finally,The writer only fill in the name on the test/Test number,To show respect for the exam.

  很多网友替铁流们鸣不平,有的说,作家的主要工作就是写作,写出脍炙人口的文学作品才是硬道理。五年级就辍学的莫言,不懂英语,一样获得诺贝尔文学奖。高中毕业的陈忠实、小学学历的郑渊洁,如果让他们考英语、计算机来评职称,估计谁也评不上。

Many netizens have defended for flowing molten iron,Some said,Writer's main work is writing,Write win universal praise of literature is the hard truth.Mo yan had dropped out of grade five,Don't speak English,The same won the Nobel Prize for literature.The ChenZhongShi graduated from high school/ZhengYuanJie primary education,If let them the English exam/Computer to professional evaluation,Estimated who also don't evaluation.

  还有人说,体制内的作家,职称高一级,工资涨一块。如果职称不跟工资、住房、医疗保障等福利待遇直接挂钩,早就没人考了。

And others say,In the system of the writer,Title high level,Wage rise a.If the title not with salary/housing/Health care benefits directly link,No one would have got.

  “职称考试本身是一种行政评价,是行政部门对人才管理或评价的关卡,这种关卡实际上并不合理。”著名教育学者、21世纪教育研究院副院长熊丙奇说,首先,我国的人事管理制度,还有单位的薪酬管理体系,都把工资、待遇、社会福利保障和职称挂钩。有些人虽然有不错的能力,但是如果没有通过职称考试,就无法获得相应的中、高级职称,就会直接影响聘任而失去相应的发展空间。

"The title test itself is a kind of administrative evaluation,Is the administrative departments for talent management or evaluation levels,This kind of level in fact is not reasonable."Famous education scholars/The 21st century education research institute, vice President of the XiongBingJi said,First of all,Our personnel management system,There are units of salary management system,Wages are/treatment/Social welfare safeguard and the title hook.Some people even though have good ability,But if there is no through the title test,Can't get the corresponding/Senior professional title,Will directly influence the employment and lose the corresponding development space.

  其次,职称考试与很多岗位的实际要求和人才的工作能力没有任何关系。比如,让作家或画家去参加英语、计算机考试,这就是非岗位要求。难道这个人通过了英语和计算机考试,他的水平就提高了吗?没有通过,他的水平就不行吗?所以,这是一种行政上不合理的要求,对个体的能力和素质的提高,以及对岗位适用力的提高没有什么价值。但是,如果不去考试就会影响到自身的竞争和发展,以及相应的待遇和福利保障。

secondly,The title test and a lot of post actual requirements and talented person's ability to work without any relationship.Such as,Let the writer or painter to English/Computer test,This is a requirement.Is the man through the English and computer test,His level improved?Not through the,His level is not?so,This is a kind of administrative unreasonable demands,For individual ability and quality improvement,As well as to the post for the improvement of force no value.but,If you don't go to a test will affect their own competition and development,And the corresponding treatment and welfare protection.

  其实,不只是作家、画家,在国内,很多行业评定职称都需要通过英语和计算机考试。

In fact,Not only the writer/painter,In China,Many industry evaluation title need through the English and computer test.

  “英语和计算机考试不能搞成‘一刀切’。假设一个人所从事的岗位需要英语,那么聘用他的单位自然会考虑他的英语能力,而且通过卷面考试和他本身的英语能力也是两码事。”熊丙奇说,他有一个朋友在国外留学,回国之后参加职称英语考试,居然没有通过,因为这位朋友不习惯这种考试模式,觉得自己英语很好,考试前没有准备,就出了问题。“单位要建立一个合理的人才聘用、培养、管理体系,而不是设置一道道的门槛。”当然,对于一些有特殊要求的行业,比如律师、教师、医生等,必须有从业资质的要求,国家应该设立相应的资质考试,而且这种资质考试也是社会化的考试。比如,由权威的社会中介机构组织考试,考试的权威性得到社会普遍认可。

"English and computer test can't get into‘One size fits all’.Assume that a person in the position of English is required,Then hire his unit will naturally consider his English ability,And through the noodles test and his own English ability is also two quite different things."XiongBingJi said,He had a friend studying in foreign countries,After I come back to China to participate in the title English test,Didn't through the,Because the friend not used to this kind of test model,Feel English is very good,Before the test without preparation,Is out of the question."Unit should establish a reasonable talent employment/training/Management system,Instead of setting a series of threshold."Of course,For some special requirements of the industry,Such as lawyers/The teacher/The doctor,Must have working qualification requirements,Countries should set corresponding qualification test,And the qualification test is socialization test.Such as,By the authority of the social intermediary organization test,The exam authority get social common recognition.

  熊丙奇认为,只有叫停或者取消职称考试,才能真正推进我国人才管理评价体制改革。

XiongBingJi think,Only to stop or cancel the title test,Can really promote China's talent management evaluation system reform.

  熊丙奇说,企事业单位,尤其是事业单位的职称评聘,应该从“职称”回归“职务”,不应该再存在评职称一说,更不能把职称与工资、福利等挂钩。比如对作家来说,机构聘任其担任某一职务,就享有某一职务的待遇,如果不再聘任,就不再拥有这一职务和相应的待遇,这才是对人才的科学管理和评价。对大学教授也应如此,大学聘任某人担任教授岗位,其就是教授,不再聘任,就不再是教授。当然,对应这种人才管理和评价体系,需要改变行政主导的管理方式,实行学术同行评价,另外,也必须改变薪酬和福利制度,并完善社会保障制度。

XiongBingJi said,Enterprises and institutions,Especially the institutions of the title assessment,Should from"title"regression"position",Should no longer exists professional evaluation said,More can't take the title and salary/Benefits linked to.Such as the writer speaking,The agency appointment as a duty,Will enjoy a post treatment,If no longer employed,Don't have a job and the corresponding treatment,This is to talented person's scientific management and evaluation.Professor of the university should also be so,University of someone as a professor position,The professor is,No longer employed,It is no longer is a professor.Of course,Corresponding to the talent management and evaluation system,Need to change the administrative leading management way,Carry out academic peer evaluation,In addition,Also must change the salary and welfare system,And perfect social security system.


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