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为评副高英语计算机十多年未过 作家:屡败屡战--亲稳网络舆情监控室
2013-03-15

近日,“山东作家铁流为评职称英语计算机,12年屡战屡败”成为网友热议的话题。 In recent days,"Shandong writers tielui for professional evaluation test English computer,12 years repeatedly battle defeat"Become the topic of netizens.

  铁流,出生于1967年,曾是海军北海舰队政治部创作室的专业作家。从上世纪80年代初起,就开始发表小说,迄今已经出版发表了几百万字的报告文学、小说和散文。近几年,铁流多次担任省级文学奖的评委。现在,他是山东省作家协会的签约作家,担任山东作家协会报告文学委员会副主任。 作家为评副高职称考12年英语计算机

tielui,Born in 1967,Was a navy north sea fleet of professional writers.Since the early 1980 s,Started to published a novel,Has so far published literature published millions of words/Novel and prose.In recent years,The judges of the tielui multiple times as the provincial prize for literature.now,He is in shandong province writers association of writers,As shandong province writers association, deputy director of the reportage. Writer for a review of the subtropical high titles test 12 years English computer? ?? ?

  就是这么一位同辈作家中的佼佼者,现在却仍在为评定副高级职称(二级作家)所需要通过的计算机考试而放下手里的创作工作,天天趴在电脑前练习各种模拟试题。“这次可能还是不行,因为我没把握。”面对记者的采访,铁流说得很无奈。

Is this a first among the peers,Now is still in for evaluation and deputy high titles(The secondary author)Required by the computer test and dropped his creative work,Simulated practice all kinds of questions on a computer every day."This may or not,Because I'm not sure."In the face of the reporter's interview,Tielui say very helpless.

  铁流是2000年在部队评上中级职称(三级作家)的。部队要求作家考英语、计算机,画家则考古汉语、计算机。因为没学过英语,每次考英语,他只能在选择题上碰运气。至于计算机,对他来说更是难上加难。10多年来,他总是心怀忐忑进考场,垂头丧气出考场。

Tielui is judge on intermediate title in the army in 2000(Level 3 writer)the.Writer take an examination of English force requirements/The computer,Archaeological Chinese painter/The computer.Because have not learned English,Every time take an examination of English,He can only luck on choice.As for the computer,More difficult for him.More than a decade,He was always uneasy into the examination room of heart,Depressed out of the examination room.

  由于职称上不去,铁流不得不于2011年转业到地方。在地方当专业作家,山东作家系列不用考英语,他终于松了半口气,可计算机还得继续考。2012年,铁流将近6个月什么都不干,只练习计算机考题,可他一年内4次报名参加全国专业技术人员计算机应用能力考试,还是没考过。

Because the title couldn't get on,Tielui had to be transferred to civilian work in 2011, to the place.As a professional writer in place,Shandong writers series need not take an examination of English,He finally loose tone,Can a computer still have to continue to test.In 2012,,Tielui nearly six months of doing nothing at all,Only practice the computer exam,But he signed up for the national professional and technical personnel for 4 times in a year computer application ability test,Still haven't got a.

  “我从1998年就开始用电脑写作,对电脑也非常熟练,写文章、编排,包括发电子邮件、上网浏览都没问题。我一分钟能打70多个字,对作家来说肯定够用了。”铁流说,为了应付这个考试,他不得不练习平时根本就用不上的模块。这些模块考完之后就忘记,再考的时候还得重新练,一次又一次,恶性循环。但计算机是评职称的一个门槛,计算机不过关根本没有参评资格。

"Since 1998, I started to write with a computer,For computer is also very skilled,Write an article/choreography,Including email/Surfing the Internet.I can type 70 words a minute,Sure will be enough for writers."Tielui said,In order to cope with the exam,He has to exercise at ordinary times did not on the module.These modules to forget after a test,You take the exam when, still have to practice again,Time and time again,A vicious cycle.But the computer is one of the professional evaluation threshold,Computer does not pass no prize.

  这样的事情不止发生在铁流一个人身上。几年前,某省作协副主席,从来没有学过英语,为了评职称,不得不参加职称外语考试。成天与方块文字打交道的作家,面对满纸的ABC,只好交白卷。最终,这位作家只在考卷上填写了姓名、考号,以示对考试的尊重。

Such a thing more than occurs in flowing molten iron.A few years ago,Province writers association, vice chairman,Never learned English,In order to review the title,Have to take the title foreign language test.All day dealing with square text writer,In the face of full paper ABC,So we have to draw.In the end,The writer only to fill out the name on the test/Candidate number,In order to show respect for the exam.

  很多网友替铁流们鸣不平,有的说,作家的主要工作就是写作,写出脍炙人口的文学作品才是硬道理。五年级就辍学的莫言,不懂英语,一样获得诺贝尔文学奖。高中毕业的陈忠实、小学学历的郑渊洁,如果让他们考英语、计算机来评职称,估计谁也评不上。

Many netizens for tielui are self-employed,Some said,The writer's main job is to write,Write a popular literature is the absolute principle.Drop out of fifth grade, mo yan,Don't understand English,As a Nobel Prize for literature.Chen zhongshi graduated from high school/Zheng yuanjie elementary school education,If they take an examination of English/Computer to professional evaluation,Estimates that no one review.

  还有人说,体制内的作家,职称高一级,工资涨一块。如果职称不跟工资、住房、医疗保障等福利待遇直接挂钩,早就没人考了。

Others say,Writer within the system,Title high level,Wages rise a.If the title not with pay/housing/Health care and welfare directly,No one had an early.

  “职称考试本身是一种行政评价,是行政部门对人才管理或评价的关卡,这种关卡实际上并不合理。”著名教育学者、21世纪教育研究院副院长熊丙奇说,首先,我国的人事管理制度,还有单位的薪酬管理体系,都把工资、待遇、社会福利保障和职称挂钩。有些人虽然有不错的能力,但是如果没有通过职称考试,就无法获得相应的中、高级职称,就会直接影响聘任而失去相应的发展空间。

"Title itself is a kind of administrative evaluation test,Is the administrative department of personnel management or evaluation level,This level is not reasonable actually."Education is a famous scholar/The 21st century education research institute said xiong bingqi, deputy director of,First of all,The personnel management system of our country,And compensation management system,Are the wages/treatment/Social welfare safeguard and the title.Although some people have good ability,But if failed to pass the title examination,Can't get the corresponding/Senior title of professional,Will directly affect the development of employment without corresponding space.

  其次,职称考试与很多岗位的实际要求和人才的工作能力没有任何关系。比如,让作家或画家去参加英语、计算机考试,这就是非岗位要求。难道这个人通过了英语和计算机考试,他的水平就提高了吗?没有通过,他的水平就不行吗?所以,这是一种行政上不合理的要求,对个体的能力和素质的提高,以及对岗位适用力的提高没有什么价值。但是,如果不去考试就会影响到自身的竞争和发展,以及相应的待遇和福利保障。

The second,Title examination and the actual needs of many jobs and personnel's work ability has nothing to do.Such as the,To take part in English let writers or artists/Computer test,This is a post request.Is this person passed the tests of English and computer,His level is raised?Didn't pass,His level is not?so,This is a kind of administrative unreasonable demands,To improve the individual's ability and quality,As well as to the position of apply force increase without any value.but,If you don't go to will affect the competition and development of itself,And the corresponding treatment and welfare.

  其实,不只是作家、画家,在国内,很多行业评定职称都需要通过英语和计算机考试。

In fact,Is not just a writer/The painter,In the domestic,Many industry qualification title need to pass the English and computer test.

  “英语和计算机考试不能搞成‘一刀切’。假设一个人所从事的岗位需要英语,那么聘用他的单位自然会考虑他的英语能力,而且通过卷面考试和他本身的英语能力也是两码事。”熊丙奇说,他有一个朋友在国外留学,回国之后参加职称英语考试,居然没有通过,因为这位朋友不习惯这种考试模式,觉得自己英语很好,考试前没有准备,就出了问题。“单位要建立一个合理的人才聘用、培养、管理体系,而不是设置一道道的门槛。”当然,对于一些有特殊要求的行业,比如律师、教师、医生等,必须有从业资质的要求,国家应该设立相应的资质考试,而且这种资质考试也是社会化的考试。比如,由权威的社会中介机构组织考试,考试的权威性得到社会普遍认可。

"Can't get into English and computer test‘One size fits all’.Assuming that a person is engaged in the job need English,Then hire his unit will naturally consider his English ability,And pass the knowledge test and his own English ability is also different."Xiong bingqi said,He had a friend in abroad,After back home to attend the title English exam,Actually did not pass,Because my friend was not used to this kind of exam mode,Feel English is very good,Not ready to before the exam,Just out of the question."Units to establish a reasonable talent employment/To cultivate/Management system,Instead of setting the threshold."Of course,,For some of the industries with special requirements,Such as a lawyer/The teacher/The doctor, etc.,Must have a practitioner qualification requirements,Countries should set up corresponding qualification examination,And the qualification examination and socialization.Such as the,By the authority of the social intermediary organization test,Society generally recognised authority.

  熊丙奇认为,只有叫停或者取消职称考试,才能真正推进我国人才管理评价体制改革。

Xiong bingqi thinks,Only to stop or cancel the title examination,Can truly promote the reform of talent management evaluation system in our country.

  熊丙奇说,企事业单位,尤其是事业单位的职称评聘,应该从“职称”回归“职务”,不应该再存在评职称一说,更不能把职称与工资、福利等挂钩。比如对作家来说,机构聘任其担任某一职务,就享有某一职务的待遇,如果不再聘任,就不再拥有这一职务和相应的待遇,这才是对人才的科学管理和评价。对大学教授也应如此,大学聘任某人担任教授岗位,其就是教授,不再聘任,就不再是教授。当然,对应这种人才管理和评价体系,需要改变行政主导的管理方式,实行学术同行评价,另外,也必须改变薪酬和福利制度,并完善社会保障制度。

Xiong bingqi said,Enterprises and institutions,Especially the title appraisal institution,Should be from"The title"Return to the"position",There should no longer tenure,More can't take the job title and salary/Benefits such as hook.Such as for a writer,Agency appointment for a certain post,Enjoys the treatment of a certain position,If no longer employed,You no longer have the position and the corresponding treatment,This is the scientific management and evaluation of talent.The university professor,University appointed someone as a professor,The professor is,No longer employed,Is no longer a professor.Of course,,Corresponding to the talent management and evaluation system,Need to change the administrative leading management style,The academic peer evaluation,In addition,Also have to change the system of compensation and benefits,And perfect the social security system.


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