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关于李选进:一个外界疯狂传闻和本人沉默的异感--亲稳舆论引导监测室
2012-09-03
一位基金公司知情人士称,“李选进要离开是早有的事,但赵琳担任继承人,据说股东方都没有许可。” A fund company people familiar with the matter said,"LiXuanJin to leave early some things,But zhao Lin as a successor,It is said that shareholders are not license."
理财周报见习记者 李沪生/上海报道
Financial weekly trainee reporter LiHuSheng/Shanghai reported
“基金公司真的娱乐化了吗?一个严肃的资产管理机构应该干什么?”
"Fund company really more entertaining?A serious of asset management mechanism should do?"
一家基金公司负责投研的高管失望地表示,他甚至觉得“上海金融工委应该把上海基金公司的老总都拉到一个地方去闭关思过三天三夜”,他听到“各种乱七八糟的事情,我作为从业者都觉得斯文扫地。”
A fund company responsible for research for executives disappointedly said,He even think"Shanghai financial working committee should put Shanghai fund company bosses of pull to a place to closed GuanSi after three days and three nights",He heard"All kinds of mess of things,I as practitioners feel sven sweep the floor."
现在,是汇丰晋信,传闻是关于总经理李选进离职一事。
now,Is HSBC jin letter,It is about the general manager LiXuanJin about leaving.
种种迹象表明,此事件的重心极有可能并非传闻本身,而在于传闻的传播,背后折射的,是复杂的人事关系。
All the signs are that,The events of the center of gravity is likely not hearsay itself,But in the spread of rumors,Behind the refraction,Is a complex human relations.
正是这种感受,让上述高管深感不安。“能不能不要搞了?”
It is this feeling,Let the executives are deeply disturbed."Can not make the?"
尴尬消息 Embarrassing news
8月29日9点07分,名为@金融杂谈的一则微博引起业内的注意,文章来自好买论坛,称:“据内部消息,汇丰晋信总经理李选进将于近期离职,转战台湾,担任汇丰大中华区资管业务的Head,统领中国大陆和台湾。外方股东力推现任COO作为继任人。如此,基金行业有史以来最年轻的女性CEO将在汇丰晋信诞生。接替骨灰级基金男少帅的,将是一位骨灰级基金女少帅。”
On August 29, 9 7 points,Called @ financial tittle-tattle a micro bo cause the attention of the industry,This article from good buy BBS,says:"According to the internal news,HSBC jin letter general manager LiXuanJin will leave in the near future,From Taiwan,The greater China region as HSBC) pipe business Head,Over the mainland China and Taiwan.Foreign shareholders push current COO as successor.so,Fund industry the most young women CEO will be in HSBC jin letter was born.Replace ashes level fund male of the ominous,Will be a pretty hardcore fund female manager."
言之凿凿,溢于言表。此COO,即现任汇丰晋信首席运营官赵琳。
propos,shows.The COO,That is the current HSBC jin zhao Lin letter chief operating officer.
跟其他网络爆料不同,这条微博博主直接@了多名行业内人士和媒体人士,然而当理财周报记者几小时后点击原文地址时,则发现早已被删除。
With other network support different,This article micro bergkamp main direct @ the name the personage inside the industry and the media,However, when financial weekly reporter a few hours after click on the original address,We find that had to be deleted.
在得到消息后记者第一时间就拨通了李选进的电话,在嘟了四声之后,电话接通,声音略显低沉,“喂,你好,不好意思我正在开会,你方便的话发个短信给我。”随即电话被挂断。
In get news reporter the first time LiXuanJin dialed the telephone,After the four tones in du,call,Slightly low voice,"hello,hello,Sorry I was meeting,It's convenient for you send a message to me."Immediately call was hung up.
12点过后,汇丰晋信的相关负责人联系记者,称汇丰晋信公司上下并未得到任何消息,一切运作正常。
After 12 o 'clock,HSBC jin believed the relevant person in charge of contact press,HSBC said jin letter and did not get any news,All normal operation.
难道这条消息真的只是一个乌龙? Is this news really just a uron?
记者再次联系了李选进本人,从下午2点一直到6点过后,李选进的电话始终无人接听。其中方股东山西信托电话也一直处于无人接听状态。
The reporter contact again LiXuanJin I,From 2 PM until 6 o 'clock later,LiXuanJin telephone always no one answer.The Chinese shareholder shanxi trust telephone has been no one answer state.
“不接电话那可能是故意的。”一名接近汇丰晋信的人士表示,“我跟业内的朋友交流下来觉得可能性比较大,应该是真的。”
"Don't answer the phone that may be intentional."A close to HSBC jin believed say,"I told the friend exchange down much more likely to feel,Should be really."
针对消息中继任者的问题,亦有人士透露,李选进本人很欣赏赵琳。但是在汇丰晋信内部,看法不一。既然该爆料称推荐赵琳的为外方股东,而李选进为外方股东代表,那么就存在两种可能:其一,汇丰方面推荐赵琳;其二,李选进本人推荐赵琳。
According to the news successor problem,Also have sources,I appreciate LiXuanJin zhao Lin.But in HSBC jin letter internal,Opinions differ.Since this a source says zhao Lin recommended for foreign shareholders,And LiXuanJin for foreign representatives of shareholders,Then there are two possible:one,HSBC aspects zhao Lin recommended;The second,I recommend LiXuanJin zhao Lin.
不过另一位基金公司知情人士称,“李选进要离开是早有的事,但赵琳担任继承人,据说股东方都没有许可。”
But another fund company people familiar with the matter said,"LiXuanJin to leave early some things,But zhao Lin as a successor,It is said that shareholders are not license."
某知情人士表示赵琳此次继任不太可能。“汇丰的传统是从自己系统里出人的,但这次肯定是全球招聘的,会招有外资行背景的人。”
Some people close to the situation said zhao Lin the succession is unlikely."HSBC's traditional from your system out of people,But this time must be global recruitment,Will move with the foreign line background."
记者询问多位业内人士,知情者鲜也。因此,不少受访者均猜测这个消息,很可能是汇丰晋信内部人士抖落出来。而根据记者了解到该公司的内部文化及关系,亦不排除此种可能。
Reporters asked about the more the personage inside course of study,Insider fresh also.therefore,Many respondents are guess the news,Probably HSBC jin letter insiders shake off out.According to the reporter understands the company's internal culture and relationship,Also don't eliminate this may.
截至发稿前,记者也未能拨通李选进的电话,而汇丰晋信方面则再次强调此消息或许是恶意传出。
At the time of former,Reporters also failed to LiXuanJin dialed the telephone,And HSBC jin letter has once again stressed this message may be malicious spread.
尴尬李选进:纷争地带难做事 Embarrassed LiXuanJin:Conflict zone difficult work
毫无疑问,李选进现在非常之尴尬,几乎令业内朋友为其唏嘘。
There is no doubt that,LiXuanJin now is very awkward,Almost make friends in the industry for its SOB.
资料显示,李选进曾在台湾怡富集团担任过要职,2003年9月加入汇丰投资香港公司,2005年进入汇丰晋信基金公司担任总经理。
Data shows,LiXuanJin worked in Taiwan yi rich group served as an important position,September 2003 to join HSBC Hong Kong investment company,2005 HSBC into jin letter fund company as a general manager.
2005年之后的事情,大家已然熟知。正所谓七年之痒,如今的李选进或许面临人生最重大的一个抉择。
2005 years later things,You already know.So-called seven year itch,Today's LiXuanJin may face life's most significant choice.
一般来说,基金公司总经理合同任期在3到5年,而2010年李选进刚结束了第一个5年的任期,在众多离职流言中选择了续签合同,今年应该是其第二个任期的第二年,于情于理都不应该存在合同到期的可能性。
Generally speaking,Fund company general manager the contract term in 3 to 5 years,And in 2010 LiXuanJin just over the first five years of term,In many exit rumors chose renewed his contract,This should be the second term of the second year,In unsupported by reason should not exist the possibility of contract expires.
至于李选进的去向是否像传闻中所说将转战台湾担任汇丰大中华区资管业务的主管,业内人士表示很有可能,资料显示,李选进先后在新加坡和台湾有过从业经验。或许正因为其偏向海外的投资风格在中国的市场下得不到施展拳脚,才造成了汇丰晋信如今规模和业绩一直停留在一个尴尬的境地。
As for LiXuanJin whether where as rumours in said would move Taiwan as HSBC greater China region endowment pipe business manager,The personage inside course of study expresses very likely,Data shows,LiXuanJin successively in Singapore and Taiwan have had experience.Perhaps because of the bias overseas investment style in the Chinese market is not cast into the next,That led to the HSBC jin believe now scale and performance has been to stay in an awkward situation.
“其实李选进这两年都不太做事了,你看市场上也都听不到他什么声音了。”前述业内人士表示。
"In fact LiXuanJin this two years are not too things off,You see the market are also hear him what sound."The foregoing the personage inside course of study says.
李选进曾多次在公开场合表示:“我需要时间,基金公司需要时间长大,投资者也需要时间成熟。”然而7年过去了,不知道李选进本人还需要多少时间。
LiXuanJin has repeatedly said that in public:"I need time,Fund company need time to grow up,Investors also need time to mature."However the past seven years,Don't know LiXuanJin I need much time.
早在多年前,汇丰晋信内部就传出中外股东方不和,李选进难做事的消息,站在纷争中心地带的李选进如何去应对,这7年来一直没能得到答案。如今李选进终将卸下沉重的担子,到台湾的发展或许给了其更大的空间,他的风格也将更为适应。
As early as in years ago,HSBC jin letter internal spread the Chinese and foreign shareholders don't,The news of LiXuanJin difficult work,Standing in the disputes in the centre of LiXuanJin how to deal with,The 7 years haven't been able to get the answer.Now LiXuanJin will undo the heavy burden,To the development of Taiwan may give the more space,His style also will be more adapt to.
尴尬汇丰晋信: Embarrassed HSBC jin letter:
7年未突破百亿规模 Seven years did not break through yuan scale
“没有做出业绩这肯定是其离职的最大原因,从2005年到现在没有明显的业绩,同期成立的几家基金公司基本都比汇丰晋信好,董事会可能也就不满意了。”上述接近汇丰晋信人士表示。
"No make performance this must be the biggest reason the exit,From 2005 to now no obvious performance,Over the same period established several fund company basic than HSBC in good faith,The board of directors may also is not satisfied."The above close to HSBC jin letter say.
2012年年中排名显示,汇丰晋信以81.88亿元的规模排在行业第48位,同年成立的汇添富、工银瑞银、交银施罗德、建信、华商、信诚早已突破了100亿元的规模,仅有2005年年底成立的益民基金如今规模依旧在43.92亿元。
In the middle of 2012 rankings show,HSBC jin letter with 8.188 billion yuan scale row in the industry a 48,The same year established by the add rich/Work silver ubs/Pay silver schroeder/Built letter/Chinese/Citic prudential already broke through 10 billion yuan scale,Only at the end of 2005 established YiMin fund now scale still is in 4.392 billion yuan.
从业绩方面来看,汇丰晋信在今年一季度表现欠佳,三只基金浮亏较多,分别为汇丰晋信低碳先锋、汇丰晋信动态策略(540003,基金吧)和汇丰晋信科技先锋。二季度,这三只基金依旧未能脱去负收益的“帽子”,分别浮亏-1.98%、-3.93%和-2.68%。
From the performance perspective,HSBC jin letter in poor performance in the first quarter of this year,Three fund FuKui more,HSBC jin respectively letter low carbon pioneer/HSBC jin letter dynamic strategy(540003,Fund it)And HSBC in technological vanguard with the letter.The second quarter,The three fund still failed to remove negative income"hat",FuKui - 1.98% respectively/- 3.93% and - 2.68%.
“汇丰在全球的业务太庞大了,相较而言,这家基金公司业务太微不足道,而山西信托就不这么想。”业内人士分析。
"HSBC in global business are too big,compared,The fund company business is too small,And shanxi trust will not think so."Analysis of the personage inside course of.
股东方信息披露显示,汇丰晋信2011年为山西信托贡献利润1088.76万元,而今年年中统计发现,汇丰晋信旗下13只基金利润总额达到了1.08亿元,远超去年,山西信托对这样的成绩应该感到满意。
Shareholders information disclosure display,HSBC jin believe 2011 to shanxi trust contribution profit is 10.8876 million yuan,This year years statistical found,HSBC jin believe its 13 fund total profit achieved 108 million yuan,Far above last year,Shanxi trust to such achievement should feel satisfied.
然而与之相悖的是,李选进为什么要选择在公司逐渐处于上升期时离去?
However to it contrary is,LiXuanJin why to choose in the company is gradually taking off leaves?
“应该不是他个人的选择,是公司的安排,或者说是董事会的安排。”上述接近汇丰晋信人士表示。
"Should not his personal choice,Is the company's arrangement,, or the board of directors arrangement."The above close to HSBC jin letter say.
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