[徐云知] [xu y. studies on know]

　　网友琴江对语有一个问题想问您，有人说教育重在“做”，有人说教育重在“研究”，对于教育的不同理解意味着最终教育行为的指向与教育目标的达成。您曾经是一线教师，当校长至少有十个年头，而且您执教也近30年。您从教师到校长这么多年在教育领域摸爬滚打，相信您一定有很多话要说，可否谈一谈您对教育的理解？

Net friend harp on language has a river question to ask you，Some say education focuses on“do”，Some say education focuses on“research”，Education for the different understanding means that eventually education behavior and education to target reaching。You used to be a teacher，When the principal at least ten years，And you coaching also nearly 30 years。You from teachers to the principal in the education field for so many years marketer，Believe that you must have a lot to talk about，Can you talk about your education to the understanding？

[朱建民]: [ZhuJianMin] :

　　因为我作为一个校长，也可以说作为办学者，我经常这样来问自己，我作为校长，我最想要什么。是不是说今年我们再多两个清华、北大的学生，是不是说我们今年的高考一本率再增长两个百分点，或者说我们今年的各种学科竞赛再多一块金牌。我想想，都不是。作为校长，我们教育的最高追求就是让每一个孩子都能够健康快乐的成长，我觉得这是我们教育的最高追求，也是教育的核心价值。所以，我觉得教育为谁培养人、培养什么人、怎样培养人，这是教育的核心价值，这也是我对教育的理解。

Because I as a principal，Also can say as the operators，I often ask myself to this，I, as the principal，I want most。This year we are more than two tsinghua、Peking University students，If the university entrance exam this year a rate of two percent growth again，Or we all kinds of course contests this year for one more gold MEDALS。I think，Are not。As the principal，Our education is the highest pursuit for every child can be healthy and happy growth，I think this is our highest pursue education，Education is the core value。so，I think education for who train a person、Training what person、How to cultivate people，This is the core value of education，This is also I to education of understanding。

[徐云知]: [xu y. studies on know] :

　　网友我对烟草很了解有这样一个问题，有人认为当下的教育是素质教育，有人认为当下的教育是应试教育；有人认为素质教育一遇到应试教育就必须让路，您怎么理解素质教育？而且您是怎么处理素质教育与应试教育的关系的？

Net friend of tobacco is know I have a problem，Some people think that the current education is the quality education，Some people think that the current education is exam-oriented education；Some people think that quality education should try education must meet a way，How do you understand quality education？And how did you handle quality education and should try education of the relationship？

[朱建民]: [ZhuJianMin] :

　　我觉得素质教育和应试教育并不是矛盾的，也不是对立的。在13亿人口的大国，目前，我们选拔人才还是通过中考、高考，所以，作为一个校长，你不重视应试、不重视质量，你这个学校就没有生源。所以，上海华东师范大学的陈玉昆教授说过一句话，说得很经典，他说假如一所学校没有中考好质量，估计这个学校立刻会死掉。但是你这个学校光有中考好质量，没有特色，早晚也会死掉，我觉得作为一个办学者，作为一个校长，不抓中高考质量，这个学校就无法生存，但是如果只抓中高考质量，没有特色，这个学校也没法发展。所以我认为，我们中学的教育不能总以高考为圆心再画圆，就是高考补考的老师不教，高考补考的学生不学，我觉得这个也是不对的。因此我们作为一个教育的定位，应该把它定位在，未来社会20年、30年之后，世界需要什么样的人，中国需要什么样的人，未来20年、30年，社会对人才的要求是什么，它应该具备什么样的素质和能力，我觉得这是我们教育今天要思考的，也就是要为20年之后、30年之后社会所需要的人具备什么样的素质，来培养这方面的素质和能力。

I think the quality education and exam-oriented education is not contradictory，Also is not contradictory。In the country with a population of 1.3 billion，At present，We choose talent or through the mid-term exam、The university entrance exam，so，As a principal，You do not take the exam、Don't pay attention to quality，You the school will not matriculate。so，The Shanghai east China normal university ChenYuKun professor said a word，Say very classic，He says if a school is not to test the good quality，Estimate the school will die at once。But you this school light have to test the good quality，No characteristics，Sooner or later, will die，I think as a the operators，As a principal，Don't catch a ZhongGaoKao quality，The school will not survive，But if just grab ZhongGaoKao quality，No characteristics，The school also can't development。So I think，We can't always by the middle school education college entrance examination to the right to draw circles，Is the university entrance exam of teachers don't teach make-up exam，The university entrance exam of make-up examination of the students don't learn，I think this is wrong。So we as a education positioning，Should put it in positioning，The future society 20 years、After 30 years，The world needs what kind of person，China needs to what kind of person，The next 20 years、30 years，Society for talents requirement is??????，It should have what kind of quality and ability，I think this is our education today to think about，Also is to provide 20 years later、After 30 years of social need people have what kind of quality，To develop this aspect of quality and ability。

[徐云知]: [xu y. studies on know] :

　　您把教育定位在您培养的学生既要适应社会经济发展的要求，同时还要适合国家人才培养的发展战略。是这样的吗？

You put the education orientation in your students not only to adapt to the requirements of the development of social economy，Also suitable for national talent cultivation development strategies。Is this?？

[朱建民]: [ZhuJianMin] :

　　对。我觉得这是素质教育所强调的。

to。I think this is the emphasis on quality education。

[徐云知]: [xu y. studies on know] :

　　素质教育和应试教育并不矛盾，实际上应试教育在一定程度上是对素质教育的一定的检测。而且这种检测可能有些地方并不像我们想象的那么完善，比如说关于一个人的品德，可能我们通过应试教育，它不一定能检测出来。作为应试教育和素质教育，应该是一体双面。是这样吗？

Quality education and exam-oriented education does not conflict，In fact exam-oriented education in a certain degree of quality education is the certain detection。And the test may be some place does not like our imagination of so perfect，For example about the moral character of a person，Maybe we should try education through，It can not detected。Exam-oriented education and quality education as，Should be a body double。Is that right？

[朱建民]: [ZhuJianMin] :

　　对。

to。