经过近两年的筹备，由华东师范大学与美国纽约大学合作设立的上海纽约大学于10月15日正式成立。作为国家教育体制改革试点项目之一，上海纽约大学是国内第一所中美合作成立的国际化大学。据了解，学校初步计划于明年秋季招收第一届本科生300名，其中中国内地学生超过150名。这所大学的筹建过程经历了怎样的曲折？学校的教学和招生方式有何新颖之处？计划每年10万元的学费是否会让学生望而却步？近日，新京报记者对话了上海纽约大学校长俞立中。

After nearly two years of preparation,The east China normal university and the New York university cooperation in the establishment of the Shanghai university of New York on October 15, formally established.As a national education system reform one of pilot projects,Shanghai New York university is the first cooperation between China and the United States established international university.It is understood,School preliminary planning next autumn recruit the first 300 undergraduate students,Among them the Chinese mainland students more than 150.This university has experienced the preparation process and how?School teaching and recruit students means has HeXinYing place?Plan 100000 yuan a year tuition will let the student flinch?recently,The Beijing news reporter dialogue Shanghai New York university President YuLiZhong.

学校筹建 The school

“中国驻美大使发函牵线” "Chinese ambassador to the 3rd May pull wires"

学校的目标是要办一所世界级的研究型大学 The school's goal is to get a world-class research university

　　新京报：上海纽约大学是谁动议创办的？

The Beijing news:Shanghai New York university who is established by the motion?

　　俞立中：2006年1月纽约大学寻找合作伙伴，建纽约大学上海中心，最终他们选在华东师大。到2008年，纽约大学校长塞克斯通问能不能再向前走一步，在上海设立一个纽约大学分校。我们对他说，目前是不可能的。如果在中国办学，只能通过中外合办的方式实现。

YuLiZhong:In January 2006, New York university looking for partners,To build New York university Shanghai center,Finally they elected in east China normal university.By 2008,New York university President sykes flux q can take a step forward,In Shanghai set up a New York university campus.We said to him,At present is not possible.If running in China,Only through sino-foreign joint way realization.

　　新京报：你们之后做了哪些努力？

The Beijing news:You are doing after efforts?

　　俞立中：2009年塞克斯通给时任中国驻美大使周文重先生讲了自己的想法。周大使专门给教育部和华东师大发函说明纽约大学的意向。

YuLiZhong:2009 sykes pass to the Chinese ambassador to the us zhou wenzhong welcomed sir about your own ideas.Weeks ambassador just for the ministry of education and the east China normal university sent a letter that New York university intention.

　　新京报：塞克斯通说，“上海纽约大学建立的过程是漫长的，甚至伴随着痛苦。”你怎么理解这段话？

The Beijing news:Sykes pass said,"Shanghai New York university established process is long,Even with pain."How do you understand this sentence?

　　俞立中：相对于建一个海外学习中心，建一所大学要复杂得多。上海纽约大学的成立，从2008年开始讨论，2009年上海市政府介入，一直到2011年批准筹建，到今年正式成立，而且过程中还有相互不理解的问题。

YuLiZhong:Relative to build an overseas learning center,To build a university is much more complicated.The establishment of the Shanghai New York university,Begin from 2008 to discuss,In 2009, the Shanghai government intervention,Until 2011 the approval,To formally established this year,And process and do not understand each other's problems.

　　在纽约大学那边，除了校长的态度，还有美国高等教育评估和认证委员会的态度，校长也要面对校董事会的质疑、征询法律顾问的意见。

In New York university there,In addition to the headmaster's attitude,And American higher education evaluation and the authentication committee attitude,The headmaster will face the question school board/Consult the opinions of the legal adviser.

单位属性 Unit attribute

“所有老师没有事业编制” "All the teacher has no career preparation"

学校不是公立大学也不是私立大学 The school is not public university is not private university

　　新京报：上海纽约大学是不是所谓的事业单位？

The Beijing news:Shanghai New York university is so-called business unit?

　　俞立中：不是事业单位，也不是企业，我们现在注册的是民办非营利组织。实际上也不是完全的“民非”。学校应是一种新的体制，就是中外合办的大学。说是公立大学吧，不是；说是私立大学吧，也不是，因为我们的启动，包括将来的发展和运行，都得到了政府的支持。

YuLiZhong:Not institutions,Nor enterprise,We are now registered non-profit organization is run by the local people.In fact is not complete"People not".The school should be a kind of new system,Is Chinese and foreign joint university.It is public university,not;It is a private university,Is not,Because we start,Including the future development and operation,Got the support of the government.

　　新京报：学校领导体制跟内地公办大学有何不同？

The Beijing news:School leadership system with the mainland public university has any different?

　　俞立中：不一样。我们是理事会领导下的校长负责制。

YuLiZhong:different.We are the President responsibility system under the leadership of the board of directors.

　　新京报：那老师和行政人员都没有事业编制了？

The Beijing news:The teachers and administrative staff are not of the career?

　　俞立中：是的，这个大学不存在事业编制的问题。华东师大和纽约大学来的教师和管理人员关系还在原来的大学。上海纽约大学招聘的教授，来自世界各地，也没有编制这个概念。

YuLiZhong:yes,The university does not exist the problem of business establishment.East China normal university and New York university teachers and management personnel relationship was in the original university.Shanghai New York university professor of recruitment,From all over the world,No preparation this concept.

　　新京报：教职岗位不是事业编制，会不会影响招聘？

The Beijing news:Faculty post is not a cause establishment,Will not affect recruitment?

　　俞立中：不会的。学校实行年薪制，也会考虑医疗保险、退休养老金等福利待遇。

YuLiZhong:Won't.School carry out the annual salary system,Also considered medical insurance/Retirement pension benefits, etc.

　　新京报：校方领导有没有行政级别？

The Beijing news:The school leadership have administrative levels?

　　俞立中：聘用人员只有合同，校方领导也没有行政级别。

YuLiZhong:Hire personnel only contract,The school leadership also does not have administrative levels.

　　新京报：你的行政级别还是要保持的吧？

The Beijing news:Your administrative level or to keep it?

　　俞立中：从岗位上退下来了，还有什么级别？

YuLiZhong:From the post a has-been,What level?

师资教学 Teachers teaching

“教师标准高于纽约大学平均水平” "New York university teacher standard higher than average level"

纽约大学约200位教授愿来华授课，学生将每人配有一名导师 New York university about 200 professors may teaching in China,Each student will be equipped with a mentor

　　新京报：现在师资力量上到位的情况怎么样了？

The Beijing news:Now on the teachers in the situation?

　　俞立中：纽约大学有约200位教授已表达了想来上海纽约大学教学、科研的意向。上海纽约大学教授的招聘工作也在进行中。

YuLiZhong:About 200 New York university professor has expressed to Shanghai New York university teaching/Research intention.Shanghai, a professor at New York university recruitment is also in progress.

　　新京报：兼职教师多还是全职教师多？

The Beijing news:Part-time teachers more or more full-time teachers?

　　俞立中：上海纽约大学教师队伍有40%将直接来自美国纽约大学；40%是在全球招聘的一流教授，还有20%是来自华东师大或其他国内大学的兼职教师。

YuLiZhong:Shanghai New York university teachers have a 40% will directly from the American New York university;40% is in the global recruitment first-rate professors,And 20% are from east China normal university or other domestic university part-time teachers.

　　新京报：招聘的教师是什么样的标准？

The Beijing news:Recruitment of teachers is what kind of standard?

　　俞立中：纽约大学帮我们招聘教师，标准很明确，就是高于纽约大学的平均水平。

YuLiZhong:New York university to help us recruiting teachers,Standard is very clear,New York university is higher than the average level.

　　新京报：上海纽约大学在教学内容和办学模式上有哪些独特之处？

The Beijing news:Shanghai New York university in the teaching contents and mode of running are there any unique?

　　俞立中：上海纽约大学提供的不是一个单一的学习环境。学校本科教育采用通识教育模式，一、二年级的重点是通识教育核心课程，学生在三、四年级可选择文、理、工等不同专业。

YuLiZhong:Shanghai New York university provide is not a single learning environment.School undergraduate education using general education mode,a/Second grade is the focus of the general education core curriculum,Students in three/Four grade can choose text/reason/Work and so on the different professional.

　　在校师生比将控制在1:8，每个学生都会配有一名导师。学生在大学4年里，有最多三个学期可以选择在遍布世界各大都市的“纽约大学全球教育体系”的15个教学中心学习，包括纽约、阿布扎比等地的校区。

The school ShiShengBi will control in 1:8,Each student will be equipped with a mentor.Students in the university four years,Have up to three term can choose all over the world in the metropolis"New York university global education system"15 a teaching center of learning,Including New York/ABU dhabi, etc of the campus.

招生政策 Admissions policies

学生毕业颁发国内外两学位 Students graduate issued two degree at home and abroad

将综合中学成绩和综合表现以及个人素养等录取考生 The comprehensive school performance and comprehensive performance and personal quality of examinee admission

　　新京报：上海纽约大学对海外和对内地均有本科招生计划，两套招生方式有哪些不同？

The Beijing news:Shanghai New York university for overseas and inland are undergraduate enrollment plan,Two sets of recruit students what are the different ways?

　　俞立中：对海外学生和内地学生招生的方法不一样。内地学生必须要参加高考，海外学生则按纽约大学的录取程序和标准来招生。

YuLiZhong:For overseas students and mainland students enrollment method is not the same.Mainland students must attend the university entrance exam,Overseas students, according to New York university admission procedure and standard to recruit students.

　　新京报：为什么招生要实行“一所学校，两种制度”？

The Beijing news:Why should execute recruitment of students"A school,Two kind of system"?

　　俞立中：上海纽约大学是一所中国注册的，中国法人的高校，国内招生的方案必须要得到教育部的同意，海外学生可以作为留学生。

YuLiZhong:Shanghai New York university is a Chinese registered,Chinese legal person of university,Domestic enrollment plan must be to get the consent of the ministry of education,Overseas students can be used as a foreign student.

　　新京报：内地学生是怎样的招生方式？

The Beijing news:Mainland students are how to admissions way?

　　俞立中：我们在招生的不同阶段，实行的是不同类型的自主招生模式，会综合三方面的情况确定录取哪些学生。一是学生必须参加高考，高考成绩肯定是考虑的一个方面，但不是简单地按照高考成绩的高低来选拔学生；二是中学学业成绩和综合表现，包括老师和校长的推荐；三是个人素养，学生的兴趣、追求、抱负以及各方面的素养和能力等。

YuLiZhong:We in the different stages of recruit students,Executes is different types of autonomous enrollment mode,Three aspects of the situation will be integrated to determine what students admitted.One is the students must attend the university entrance exam,The university entrance exam must be considered a aspects,But not simply according to the discretion of the university entrance exam to select students;The second is high school grades and integrated performance,Including the teachers and the headmaster's recommendation;Three is a person literacy,Students' interest/pursuit/Ambition and all aspects of literacy and ability, etc.

　　新京报：为什么还让学生参加高考？

The Beijing news:Why still let students to attend the university entrance exam?

　　俞立中：报考上海纽约大学的学生，也许同时选择了北大、清华等其他高校。上海纽约大学录取学生数量有限，但学生参加了高考，如果没有被上海纽约大学录取，仍可以被其他高校录取。

YuLiZhong:Enter oneself for an examination Shanghai New York university students,Maybe at the same time chose Peking University/Tsinghua university and other universities.Shanghai New York university students admission limited number,But students to attend the university entrance exam,If not be Shanghai New York university admission,Can still be other college admission.

　　另外，上海纽约大学学生完成学业后除了颁发纽约大学学位，也要发中国大学的学位和毕业证书。这就必须符合教育部和国务院学位委员会的规定。学生必须要参加高考才会有注册信息。

In addition,Shanghai New York university students after completing their studies in addition to issue New York university degree,Also want to send the Chinese university degree and diploma.It must accord with the ministry of education and the state council degree committee regulations.Students must attend the university entrance exam will have registration information.

　　新京报：既然对上海纽约大学的前景非常看好，但为什么只招300人？

The Beijing news:Since the prospect of New York university in Shanghai is very good,But why only recruit 300 people?

　　俞立中：规模小是为了保证学校集中精力和资源，实现中外合作办学的主要目标。我们是按标准做事，不是按数量做事。

YuLiZhong:Small scale is to ensure that the school concentrated energy and resources,To realize the major goal of chinese-foreign cooperation in running schools.We are doing things according to the standard,According to quantity is not work.

学费标准 Tuition standard

“内地生学费低因政府有投入” "The mainland government is born for tuition fees low input"

学校资金三个来源：社会募捐、学费和政府支持 The school funds from three sources:Social donation/Tuition fees and government support

　　新京报：上海纽约大学的资金来源都有哪些？

The Beijing news:Shanghai at New York university, what are the source of funds?

　　俞立中：在启动阶段，华东师范大学和纽约大学都没有资金直接投入，但投入了大量的人力资源和无形资源。上海纽约大学的资金有三个主要来源：社会募捐、学费和政府支持。

YuLiZhong:In the start stage,East China normal university and New York university are not money directly into,But put in a great deal of human resources and intangible resources.Shanghai New York university capital has three main source:Social donation/Tuition fees and government support.

　　学费不仅仅是本科生的学费，也包括高端培训的收入，将来还有研究生的学费。政府对这所学校的启动给予了很多支持，包括浦东新区政府。

Tuition fee is not only undergraduate tuition fees,Also includes high-end training income,The future and the graduate student's tuition.The government to the school start to give a lot of support,Including pudong new area government.

　　新京报：中国学生的学费达10万元左右，有没有注意到这是中国内地最高学费了？

The Beijing news:Chinese students tuition fees of 100000 yuan,Did you notice that this is the highest tuition fees for mainland China?

　　俞立中：每年10万的学费标准还有待物价局批准。实际上，这个标准和高水平大学的办学成本而言只是一小部分，而且就是学费中的不少部分也会通过奖学金形式支持学生。我们正在全球募集资金，希望能给更多优秀学生，特别是家庭贫困的优秀学生提供奖学金。

YuLiZhong:Every year 100000 tuition standard remains to be price bureau approval.In fact,This standard and high level of running the university in terms of cost is only a small part,And the tuition is a great number of part will also be used to support students scholarship forms.We are the global to raise funds,The hope can give more excellent students,Especially the family impoverished outstanding student offer scholarships.

　　新京报：与国际学生每年几十万相比，境内学生的学费标准还算是低的。为什么在学费问题上也是“两种制度”？

The Beijing news:And international students compared each year hundreds of thousands of,Domestic student's tuition standard is low.Why is the tuition"Two kind of system"?

　　俞立中：国际学生是按纽约大学的学费标准，内地学生理论上也是如此，并不存在两种收费标准。但因为上海纽约大学有政府的投入，差别的部分应视为是对内地学生的补贴。

YuLiZhong:International students are according to New York university tuition standard,Mainland students theory is also so,Does not exist two kinds of charging standard.But because Shanghai New York university has the government's input,Part of the difference should be regarded as a mainland students' subsidies.

　　新京报：学费标准的确定考虑了哪些因素？

The Beijing news:Tuition standard sure consider the factors?

　　俞立中：其实学费标准还包括学生到国外学习的成本，不会因为到纽约大学全球教育体系的其他校区或教学中心学习而另加学费。师资成本也会是预算中的主要部分。

YuLiZhong:In fact the tuition standard also includes the cost of students to study abroad,Not because to New York university global education system or other campus teaching center of learning and plus tuition.Teachers will also cost is the main part of the budget.

　　新京报：不担心学费太高，会影响生源来报考吗？

The Beijing news:Don't worry about the tuition is too high,Will affect students to enter oneself for an examination?

　　俞立中：这是不用担心的问题。没有一所大学应该成为所有学生都想追求的学校，再好的学校也只是对某些人群是合适的。学生要学会选择，根据自己的兴趣、特长、抱负，选择适合自己的教育模式。

YuLiZhong:This need not worry about the problem.Not a university should be all students want to the pursuit of the school,It is a good school is just some people is appropriate.Students will learn to choose,According to their interests/specialty/ambition,Choose the suitable education model.

　　新京报：有人说，这么高的学费，会使得一些家庭贫困的学生对这所学校望而却步。

The Beijing news:Some say,Such high tuition fees,Will make some of the families are poor students of the school flinch.

　　俞立中：如果学生确实很优秀，学校很想要他，当然要为他提供奖学金来留住他。

YuLiZhong:If students are really good,School is very want him,Of course to offer him a scholarship to keep him.

学校前景 School prospect

“退一步就和初衷不一样了” "Take a step back and original intention is not the same"

目标是最重要的，路径可以有不同选择 Target is the most important,Path can have different choices

　　新京报：你在成立仪式上说，“一切刚刚开始，我们还不敢说得太多”。

The Beijing news:You said in the establishment ceremony,"Everything has just started,We also dare not say too much".

　　俞立中：我觉得还是低调一点，更有利于学校的发展。

YuLiZhong:I think it's a little low,More conducive to the development of the school.

　　新京报：会不会跟南方科技大学校长在筹办过程中遇到很多困难的“前车之鉴”有关？

The Beijing news:Will follow the south university of science and technology in the process of the principal for meet many difficult"Lessons drawn from others' mistakes"relevant?

　　俞立中：不会的，这是与我们处事的态度和方法有关。我们觉得还是低调点好，把事情做好更重要。

YuLiZhong:Won't,It is with our attitudes and methods about things.We feel or low key point good,Do things more important.

　　新京报：南科大的艰辛之路给你本人有哪些启发？

The Beijing news:South university of hard road to you what I have inspired?

　　俞立中：其实，我了解的并不多。我们的体会是，要使理想变成现实，有许多实际问题一定需要加强沟通。不要因为在选择路径上太执着了，结果耽误了目标的实现。

YuLiZhong:In fact,I know not much.Our experience is,To make the ideal into reality,There are many practical problems must need strengthen communication.Not because the choice of path too persistent,Results the delay the realization of the goal.

　　新京报：如果将来遇到很大的阻力，会不会往后退？

The Beijing news:If the future in a great deal of resistance,Will not go back?

　　俞立中：我们没有退路的，要退就把办学目标降低了。上海纽约大学要保证有一流的师资队伍、一流的教育模式、一流的学生群体。这点是不能退的，如果要退的话，和我们的初衷就不一样了。（记者 郭少峰)

YuLiZhong:We don't have the retreat,Check the teaching goal is reduced.Shanghai New York university to ensure that have the first-class faculty/The first-class education mode/Top students group.This is not the back,If you want to a point,And our original intention is not the same.(Reporter GuoShaoFeng)